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(NYPost)   Passengers of U.S. Airways flight 1549 thrilled to be given free first class upgrades for a year. Just kidding, they're biatching their lungs out because they want free upgrades for life   (nypost.com) divider line 266
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2009-01-30 08:47:11 AM  
FTA: "You're going to crash me into the water, and you're going to tell me all I get is an upgrade?" asked Antonio Sales, 20, who was traveling with the University of South Carolina's track team. "That's more of an 'OK, you're not dead, I'll give you something to hold on to.' It's not enough at all."

Did this wankstain just say that being alive isn't enough? Wow.
 
2009-01-30 08:47:14 AM  
fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys
 
2009-01-30 08:47:22 AM  
labman: When you get in a car accident that is a random accident like a deer running out in front of you, do you expect the car manufacturer to provide you with a better car to drive for life?

THIS!
/I hit a goose once, smashed my windshield
//nobody gave me a car to drive for a year
 
2009-01-30 08:47:54 AM  
This isn't true for all passengers. I had a family member on that plane, and he isn't looking for a lottery win. Poor guy does has a lot of emotional scars right now and needs time to sort things out. We have an attourney in our family who is advising him right now, but suing UA hasn't come up. Right now he'd just like to be able to sleep through the night without the nightmares.
 
2009-01-30 08:48:41 AM  
"I can promise you one thing that will come out of this if compensation gets out of hand: Airlines will be forced to consider the costs of crashes where passengers survive. And trust me.. you don't want some dispassionate pencil pushing corporate geek taking a calculator to the value of your saved life vs the value of your taken life."

And do what? Tell the pilots it's now part of their job description to try to kill everyone on board during a bad landing?
 
2009-01-30 08:50:00 AM  
It saddens but doesn't surprise me that this story of overcoming great odds has quickly turned into a biatch-fest representing the worst of our self-entitlement attitudes. I sincerely hope someone slaps them back to reality and they appreciate the gift they have already been given.

/not likely
 
2009-01-30 08:50:49 AM  
The Crepes of Wrath: They should at least throw in a free ShamWow.

but they can't do that all day
 
2009-01-30 08:50:50 AM  
uptonogood: fark, i hate americans. the gimme nation. i hope we're in a recession for decades.

/leaving the country soon again
//fark you guys


don't let the door hit ya on the way out. i hear North Korea is nice this time of year.
 
2009-01-30 08:51:00 AM  
It's stories like this that restore my misfaith in humanity.
 
2009-01-30 08:51:25 AM  
Ohhh nooz the nightmares!!!!! Seriously??
 
2009-01-30 08:51:30 AM  
rhiannon: "I can promise you one thing that will come out of this if compensation gets out of hand: Airlines will be forced to consider the costs of crashes where passengers survive. And trust me.. you don't want some dispassionate pencil pushing corporate geek taking a calculator to the value of your saved life vs the value of your taken life."

And do what? Tell the pilots it's now part of their job description to try to kill everyone on board during a bad landing?


If you're the only survivor... You're automatically a hero!
 
2009-01-30 08:51:42 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: don't see anything wrong with negotiating.

Except what is the passengers negotiating position? That if they don't get what they want they will whine and biatch and be mocked mercilessly on the internet?
 
2009-01-30 08:51:51 AM  
They should all be given leave to join the mile-high club. 20 minutes of privacy at altitude to complete the achievement. They'll have to provide their own dance partners, of course.
 
2009-01-30 08:52:20 AM  
NYRBill: The Crepes of Wrath: They should at least throw in a free ShamWow.

but they can't do that all day


Why aren't they calling?
 
2009-01-30 08:52:25 AM  
If I was one of the passengers, I would I would owe USAIR the greatest gratitude for keeping me alive after birds downed the plane.
 
2009-01-30 08:52:45 AM  
SOLUTION:

Get the names and addresses of these complainers and add them to the watch list.

Problem solved.
 
2009-01-30 08:52:53 AM  
Umm...pretty sure having my life would be compensation enough...
 
2009-01-30 08:53:18 AM  
rhiannon: "I can promise you one thing that will come out of this if compensation gets out of hand: Airlines will be forced to consider the costs of crashes where passengers survive. And trust me.. you don't want some dispassionate pencil pushing corporate geek taking a calculator to the value of your saved life vs the value of your taken life."

And do what? Tell the pilots it's now part of their job description to try to kill everyone on board during a bad landing?


That's obviously where he was going with it. While a stretch, it isn't implausible. Take automakers, for instance. If they discover a defective part, the equation to determine whether or not to recall it is as follows:

A.) Likely # of injuries/deaths caused by faulty part x average size of settlement.
B.) Total cost of recall.

If A > B, recall the part. If B > A, let it go.
 
2009-01-30 08:53:19 AM  
Aidan:
If you're the only survivor... You're automatically a hero!


Typically it makes you the automatic crazy killer I believe.
 
2009-01-30 08:53:43 AM  
NYRBill: but they can't do that all day

I LolWowed.
 
2009-01-30 08:54:12 AM  
gtraz: HotWingConspiracy: don't see anything wrong with negotiating.

Except what is the passengers negotiating position? That if they don't get what they want they will whine and biatch and be mocked mercilessly on the internet?


They could call any lawyer in the phone book at random and have the airline tied up in court for a loooong time.
 
2009-01-30 08:54:53 AM  
It is surprising to me that EVERY SINGLE PASSENGER is complaining about the exact same thing.
 
2009-01-30 08:55:52 AM  
Flying generally sucks period. For a lot of reasons. For the same reason you hate the dentist, he hates you back, so customer service sucks. I'd hate to work...well, anywhere in the airline industry. As for the $5k, very nice gesture, but I've flown with more cash in my briefcase than that...sure I could make a claim for the rest, but how could I prove it? It's cash. The upgrade seems a little silly as well. I say let the lawyers duke it out.

/slashy for no reason
 
2009-01-30 08:56:32 AM  
Sniper 1: We have an attourney in our family who is advising him right now, but suing UA hasn't come up.

wow, that's a good lawyer to advise against suing United, since they had nothing to do with it ;-)
 
2009-01-30 08:56:34 AM  
not2bright: They already got a lifetime upgrade from "Dead".
 
2009-01-30 08:57:04 AM  
Once again, people get shafted for doing the right thing. I would agree with the passengers IF this was some sort of safety issue that the airline just failed to enforce. But since the preliminary indications are that a double bird strike occurred, that's like trying to predict when lightning will strike you twice (well, that's probably rarer, who knows). So they should be happy to get the $5000 for lost/delayed luggage AND the free upgrades for a year.
 
2009-01-30 08:57:46 AM  
Guess next time the pilot should just parachute out of the plan and let every one die. Seems to be the lesson these scum bags want to teach the airline.

Seriously these people are a bunch of bastards.
 
2009-01-30 08:58:02 AM  
z_gringo: I think US Airways was just trying to get some free good publicity with this. It probably would have been better for them to do nothing instead of this upgrade for a year thing.

I dunno, based upon their gesture and the asshat passengers responses, I find myself wanting to book some US Airways flights.
 
2009-01-30 08:58:07 AM  
Maybe they should've slammed their faces into the back of the seat in front of them during the landing, that way they could sue for $1,000,000,000 due to the mental anguish of having a busted nose. You snooze you lose.
 
2009-01-30 08:58:21 AM  
If anything, Capt. Sully should get the pick of the hot chicks on that flight and get blowjobs for life.
 
2009-01-30 08:58:24 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: They could call any lawyer in the phone book at random and have the airline tied up in court for a loooong time.

Really? I'm no lawyer but I would think that any case against the airline would be thrown out by the judge in pretty short order.
 
2009-01-30 08:59:20 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: They could call any lawyer in the phone book at random and have the airline tied up in court for a loooong time.

How so?
 
2009-01-30 08:59:36 AM  
nopokerface: How about 5 free upgrades? Not everybody flies often. Plus, didn't they already get fat checks?

Is that like a baggage check? This TSA stuff is getting out of hand!
 
2009-01-30 09:00:22 AM  
Sniper 1: This isn't true for all passengers. I had a family member on that plane, and he isn't looking for a lottery win. Poor guy does has a lot of emotional scars right now and needs time to sort things out. We have an attourney in our family who is advising him right now, but suing UA hasn't come up. Right now he'd just like to be able to sleep through the night without the nightmares.


2/10

WEAK!
 
2009-01-30 09:00:37 AM  
I bet that the pilot of this plane reads about all of these ungrateful asshats complaining, he thinks "Maybe I should have just crashed it into the landfill and let thier asses die."
 
2009-01-30 09:00:41 AM  
I think both arguments have some form of merit.

On one hand, the airline really DOESN'T have to do anything. Like someone pointed out, these people survived a fatal but RANDOM accident because of an excellent pilot. The airline doesn't really "owe" them anything - if they had been to blame in some way, that's one thing. But it's a flock of geese, fer crissake.

On the other hand, as a gesture this can ring hollow with some passengers. Many are right - they probably won't be flying much in the next year. It's a gesture that they will not be taking advantage of, so it's essentially useless. It's kind of like telling a vegetarian that they get free Big Macs for a year.

Someone else hit it on the head - make this "gesture" for a set number of flights, rather than a set amount of time. 5 flights - or 10 flights - without a time limit, or at least a much longer time limit. You use up your free upgrades in 6 months, then TS. Don't complain that someone has some left over 5 years from now.

Sadly, most people won't be pleased with the fact that they're simply alive. If they weren't already conditioned by society to say "gimme gimme gimme", they've had people around them TELLING them to say it. Especially all the storefront lawyers sniffing around them for a quick payday.
 
2009-01-30 09:00:42 AM  
gtraz: HotWingConspiracy: They could call any lawyer in the phone book at random and have the airline tied up in court for a loooong time.

Really? I'm no lawyer but I would think that any case against the airline would be thrown out by the judge in pretty short order.


Eh. I have no such faith in the courts.
 
2009-01-30 09:03:05 AM  
Another thing, isn't it the AIRPORT's responsibility to keep birds away? I'm not sure if this happened at much altitude, but just sayin'.
 
2009-01-30 09:03:32 AM  
tampaflacouple: I bet that the pilot of this plane reads about all of these ungrateful asshats complaining, he thinks "Maybe I should have just crashed it into the landfill and let thier asses die."

Problem: Cockpit hits the ground first.
Solution: Parachute
 
2009-01-30 09:04:40 AM  
joethorne.: How exactly was this crash the fault of US Airways? Are they supposed to be able to control geese?

You got 5 grand, future expense claims, and some good faith flights. Americans might be the only people in existence who feel they're owed something from an unavoidable accent.


THIS! My father was in a plane crash when he was in the military. Does he expect the Air Force to provide him with free transportation for the rest of his life? NO! Thank your lucky stars, count your blessings and STFU!
 
2009-01-30 09:04:52 AM  
I flew to Chicago and back on Southwest last weekend. The flight home was about a third full and arrived 20 minutes early. That was enough for me.

/Oh, and I didn't die.
//Fricken' cold in Chicago last weekend, though
 
2009-01-30 09:05:20 AM  
You guys are slamming 150 people over the comments from about four. Not everyone on that plane feels the same way.
 
2009-01-30 09:05:48 AM  
Two questions:

How many of "they" (biatching passengers) are there out of the total?

When you're dealing with over 100 people rich enough to fly, what are the odds that at least a few of them are total douchebags?

This is not news. It's not a sign that America overall is now a cesspool filled with entitled yuppie trash. Go back 10, 100 or 1000 years and any random sample of 100+ people in any part of the world will have a few greedy idiots who will milk any situation for all it's worth.
 
2009-01-30 09:05:53 AM  
i plan to fly once, maybe twice in the next year.

if i were given free trips first class, that number goes up to more than five times. I'll fly everywhere.

If it is just free upgrades to first class after i have to buy a coach ticket, eh, maybe i will fly three times in the next year. it is basically $50 per flight, on 6 flights, so compensation of $300 or so.

But, since i would have flown less without the offer and some of those free first class seats i got would not have been sold anyways, the cost to the airline is essentially zero.
 
2009-01-30 09:06:01 AM  
Classic New York Post hyperbole. They quote exactly 2 of the 150 passenger, so 2 becomes "Some", "Some" becomes "Passengers of 1549" which to the average readers "All".

Two biatchy passengers among 150. They don't represent the group.
They aren't "The 1549 passengers". They are "Two whiners who happened to be on flight 1549", but then the headline wouldn't be nearly as interesting, right?
 
2009-01-30 09:06:05 AM  
Wait until they find out they ALL have to go back to the Island.
 
2009-01-30 09:06:57 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: gtraz: HotWingConspiracy: They could call any lawyer in the phone book at random and have the airline tied up in court for a loooong time.

Really? I'm no lawyer but I would think that any case against the airline would be thrown out by the judge in pretty short order.

Eh. I have no such faith in the courts.


Normally I'd agree since people are pretty good at finding things to sue over but it seems that the airline did as much as possible given the circumstances. No injuries and the reason it happened in the first place is really more an airport problem than an airline problem.
 
2009-01-30 09:07:14 AM  
If US Airways hadn't already sent out checks and refunds I'd feel completely different about this. They are doing everything in their power to make things right. Though it wouldn't hurt if they wouldn't charge these people for drinks.
 
2009-01-30 09:07:16 AM  
their prize was that they lived. screw them. everyone wants a friggin hand out.
 
2009-01-30 09:07:47 AM  
Iwouldhitit: labman: When you get in a car accident that is a random accident like a deer running out in front of you, do you expect the car manufacturer to provide you with a better car to drive for life?

Yes! And I expect deers to give me free venison for life.

/Gimme


It's there for the taking.
 
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