If you love Bill Hicks as much as I do may I suggest the following comedians:

1. Bill Hicks
2. Andy Andrist
3. James Inman
4. Brett Erickson
5. David Cross

TheOtherOne79: If you love Bill Hicks as much as I do may I suggest the following comedians:

1. Bill Hicks
2. Andy Andrist
3. James Inman
4. Brett Erickson
5. David Cross

6. Doug Stanhope
7. Marc Maron

Bill Hicks is a comedy hero of mine.

I don't give a shiat if others don't find him funny, even if I can't really understand why not. It's their loss, just as it's my loss for not finding Adam Sandler funny.

John Cleese thinks he's a genius comedian, as other comedians do, and I agree.

Bill Hicks = legend.

Photometric: TheOtherOne79: If you love Bill Hicks as much as I do may I suggest the following comedians:

1. Bill Hicks
2. Andy Andrist
3. James Inman
4. Brett Erickson
5. David Cross

6. Doug Stanhope
7. Marc Maron

8. Ricky Gervais/Stephen Merchant/Karl Pilkington on the radio/podcasts

Photometric:
6. Doug Stanhope
7. Marc Maron

Actually I farked that up. Stanhope was supposed to be 1

Another old favorite popped into my head on the way to work, about Iraq Clusterfark I:

I had the unenviable position of being FOR the war, but AGAINST the troops...

GungFu: Photometric: TheOtherOne79: If you love Bill Hicks as much as I do may I suggest the following comedians:

1. Bill Hicks
2. Andy Andrist
3. James Inman
4. Brett Erickson
5. David Cross

6. Doug Stanhope
7. Marc Maron

8. Ricky Gervais/Stephen Merchant/Karl Pilkington on the radio/podcasts

9. Joe Rogan
10. Louis CK

RemyDuron: mfaby: Is his appeal that he's dead and therefore remembered as better than he actually was?

Bitter, angry and hatefilled is no way to go thru life, son.

Says who?

All those dudes are dead. They have gone thru life.

Jonathan Hohensee: How the hell am I a sheep?

Please see this post directly after my last: Cranial Joyride: Jonathan Hohensee: Bill Hicks plan for success;

1. Alienate audience members by calling them idiots for not following his pretentious, insane, and inconsistent philosophy.
2. Toil in obscurity
3. Assume that he is not successful because audience members are stupid idiots who don't follow his pretentious, insane and inconsistent philosophy.

(blah blah blah)

Bill Hick's plan for success:
1. Alienate the squares while emboldening the misanthropes.
2. Build cult following, then die suddenly (and painfully)
3. ???
4. Prophet

"Oh and if there are any Jonathan Hohensees in the audience tonight...kill yourselves. No. Seriously. Kill yourselves. Rid the world of your evil machinations."

Which joke was it, JH? Which joke or furious outburst was it that hit too close to home for you and hurt your widdle feelings or melted your tiny human mind?

I think he nailed it.

madmann: GungFu: Photometric: TheOtherOne79: If you love Bill Hicks as much as I do may I suggest the following comedians:

1. Bill Hicks
2. Andy Andrist
3. James Inman
4. Brett Erickson
5. David Cross

6. Doug Stanhope
7. Marc Maron

8. Ricky Gervais/Stephen Merchant/Karl Pilkington on the radio/podcasts

9. Joe Rogan
10. Louis CK

11. Jimmy Fallon

/am I doing it right?

I saw an old Jerry Seinfeld stand up comedy routine on Letterman on youtube the other month, and it was not funny. at all. it was from 1984 or 1985 or so.
i like "Seinfeld" but that was just...... ugh. Hell, even that 1997/98 comedy special he did wasn't that funny. Especially now. Now it's just lame.

Then I saw two Hicks routines. One on Letterman, from about 1989 or so, which was funny. And one from about 1990/1991, filmed in some comedy club, which was absolutely hilarious and spot on. some of it still was relevent even today.

germ78: malorkis: My first job in Chicago, at 19, was telemarketing for a small comedy club called the Funny Firm. This was maybe 1994, and well into the death throes of the comedy boom. Bill Hicks came and played a weekend, I went to two shows on consecutive nights. The first night he killed. He was a man possessed on fire. The second night something was off. He was tame, almost quiet. He had to stop a couple times toward the end of his act to catch his breath. And he bummed a cigarette from an audience member. It wasn't until months later when I heard he was dead that I realized the significance.

I still imagine all the things he could have said and done with a little more time.

Love and fear, people. It really is just that simple.


Oh, and anyone who isn't an utterly rabid Bill Hicks fan is some combination of shallow and stupid.

Good night, everybody!

It likely would have been late 1993. He died in February 1994, and had all but retired from touring by January of '94 to spend time with his family.


You're right. Now that I'm sober, I recall it was 1993. Also I was 20. May the internet gods have mercy on my hard drive.

In all seriousness, I find it gratifying that so many of us are excited about this.

Also, the thought of too-smart teens stumbling across Bill Hicks' bits on youtube or passing around CDs, pissing themselves laughing before they realize they just had their minds blown... Well, it warms my shriveled heart.

I thought Hicks and Letterman had a falling out after Dave bumbed Bill, because the routine he was going to do was deemed too vulgar for television.

GonzoNihilist: I thought Hicks and Letterman had a falling out after Dave bumbed Bill, because the routine he was going to do was deemed too vulgar for television.

Yea he has a bit about it. He does the act which I believe is the one about having no luck as a kid in school ("Hicks stabbed him" and pulling the chair out from under the kid). The censors said it was insensitive to handicapped people. Almost certain but I cant find the file for the life of me.

jrshull: Jonathan Hohensee: How the hell am I a sheep?

Please see this post directly after my last: Cranial Joyride: Jonathan Hohensee: Bill Hicks plan for success;

1. Alienate audience members by calling them idiots for not following his pretentious, insane, and inconsistent philosophy.
2. Toil in obscurity
3. Assume that he is not successful because audience members are stupid idiots who don't follow his pretentious, insane and inconsistent philosophy.

(blah blah blah)

Bill Hick's plan for success:
1. Alienate the squares while emboldening the misanthropes.
2. Build cult following, then die suddenly (and painfully)
3. ???
4. Prophet

"Oh and if there are any Jonathan Hohensees in the audience tonight...kill yourselves. No. Seriously. Kill yourselves. Rid the world of your evil machinations."

Which joke was it, JH? Which joke or furious outburst was it that hit too close to home for you and hurt your widdle feelings or melted your tiny human mind?

I think he nailed it.

So the ones who aren't sheep are the ones who treats stand up comedians like messianic figures and becomes rabid when people have the audacity to attack his ideas?

FeedTheCollapse: madmann: GungFu: Photometric: TheOtherOne79: If you love Bill Hicks as much as I do may I suggest the following comedians:

1. Bill Hicks
2. Andy Andrist
3. James Inman
4. Brett Erickson
5. David Cross

6. Doug Stanhope
7. Marc Maron

8. Ricky Gervais/Stephen Merchant/Karl Pilkington on the radio/podcasts

9. Joe Rogan
10. Louis CK

11. Jimmy Fallon

/am I doing it right?

You're doing it wrong!!

malorkis: Also, the thought of too-smart teens stumbling across Bill Hicks' bits on youtube or passing around CDs, pissing themselves laughing before they realize they just had their minds blown... Well, it warms my shriveled heart.

Don't worry, I've done my part to make sure that the younger generation knows about Bill Hicks.

/like the time I shaved "Bill Hicks" into my pubes and walked around the day care center naked.

Leno and Hicks were actually good friends. It's explained in a few of the books about him... I'd suggest "Love All The People". Possibly one of my favorite books of all time.

Jonathan Hohensee:

Suggesting that Jay Leno should kill himself just because he did commercials (again, God forbid!) or yelling truly perplexing things like "the economy is a MYTH!" is only funny in the fact that he seriously believes what he said. Same with that hippy new age "squeegeeing opening your third eye" business. Christ.

I can't help to hold feelings of resentment for anyone who walks around all day assuming that everyone around him is an idiot. It's just as a disgusting and self-centered character flaw as the ones he would rail against onstage.

I feel as strongly as Bill Hicks about doing commercials and seriously agree when he's saying that you "bring nothing good to this world, you are satan's little helper and rid yourself of your existence"

it might seem harsh and extreme, but I back this a %100. There is no redeeming value whatsoever in advertisement, its ugly, it smells bad and I totally agree with the sentiment that if you have anything to do with advertisement or marketing... Kill yourself

sorry, there no punchline.

Kill yourself

I didn't mean you specifically, in general

Perhaps the best thing to happen to Bill Hicks' "Intellectual Badass" image was that he died (relatively) young. If he were still alive, we'd all be in NFL threads biatching about him doing Ford F-150 commercials. He also would've starred in a sitcom that gets canceled after a season. And he most likely would have regular segments on Countdown With Keith Olbermann where he plays the left-wing equivalent of Dennis Miller.

God damn cancer. Taking a legitimately funny (and I mean that) individual so young, leaving us with obnoxious followers who thought he was the end all be all of progressive intellectual curiosity. You know, before he got a chance to escape obscurity and sell out to the man

The Great EZE: God damn cancer. Taking a legitimately funny (and I mean that) individual so young, leaving us with obnoxious followers who thought he was the end all be all of progressive intellectual curiosity. You know, before he got a chance to escape obscurity and sell out to the man

It's still okay to think he was a hilarious comedian who said some intersting/thought provoking things right?

The Great EZE: Perhaps the best thing to happen to Bill Hicks' "Intellectual Badass" image was that he died (relatively) young. If he were still alive, we'd all be in NFL threads biatching about him doing Ford F-150 commercials. He also would've starred in a sitcom that gets canceled after a season. And he most likely would have regular segments on Countdown With Keith Olbermann where he plays the left-wing equivalent of Dennis Miller.

God damn cancer. Taking a legitimately funny (and I mean that) individual so young, leaving us with obnoxious followers who thought he was the end all be all of progressive intellectual curiosity. You know, before he got a chance to escape obscurity and sell out to the man

There is truth in what you say. Sometimes we like to think that someone died too young, when in reality they died just in time. It enhances the legend as well. And I kinda hope that Bill Hicks was able to make the pilot for his "Lords of the Underworld" show he talked about.

/then again, maybe not

HappyHarryHardOn: There is no redeeming value whatsoever in advertisement, its ugly, it smells bad and I totally agree with the sentiment that if you have anything to do with advertisement or marketing... Kill yourself

Ever watched network broadcast TV? Take a wild farking guess how that's funded. Then kill yourself.

RemyDuron

Oh yeah. The thing is, there are funny ventriloquist comedians out there.

I liked Willie Tyler and Lester when they were on John Byners BIZZARE show in the 80's.

Guysmiley: HappyHarryHardOn: There is no redeeming value whatsoever in advertisement, its ugly, it smells bad and I totally agree with the sentiment that if you have anything to do with advertisement or marketing... Kill yourself

Ever watched network broadcast TV? Take a wild farking guess how that's funded. Then kill yourself.

Heck, Fark.com would be nothing without ads.
They are displeasurable and annoying but in the real world adults realize that they play an essential function.

/how exactly are businesses supposed to raise awareness of their products?

Guysmiley: HappyHarryHardOn: There is no redeeming value whatsoever in advertisement, its ugly, it smells bad and I totally agree with the sentiment that if you have anything to do with advertisement or marketing... Kill yourself

Ever watched network broadcast TV? Take a wild farking guess how that's funded. Then kill yourself.

the wonderful wold of Network broascast tv that pads tv shows between commercials? Wow, guess you got me in a box now

Gunny Highway: GonzoNihilist: I thought Hicks and Letterman had a falling out after Dave bumbed Bill, because the routine he was going to do was deemed too vulgar for television.

Yea he has a bit about it. He does the act which I believe is the one about having no luck as a kid in school ("Hicks stabbed him" and pulling the chair out from under the kid). The censors said it was insensitive to handicapped people. Almost certain but I cant find the file for the life of me.

I thought the bit that got him yanked from Letterman was the one linking the face non-smokers make to the face that pro-life people make...and then Hicks going on to say that he gets that look a lot lately because he smokes while performing abortions.

/sorry I butchered the joke
//may not be the bit that was pulled from Letterman

Jonathan Hohensee: How the hell am I a sheep? Because I don't blindly follow the words of a popular stand up comedian? Would that make me the contrarian?

What makes you a sheep is hearing the words but not the message. He said that there were 50 channels of American Gladiators, what he didn't say was the point - where's the popular TV that teaches you anything? Where are the journalists who call politicians to account for their actions? Instead we have mindless entertainment and pseudo-news. It saddens me that the NZ Herald website has an entire section dedicated to Apple, like they're the only consumer electronics company out there - every single thing that happens in one single company is not news. Fortunately I don't get Fox News which has Bill O'Reiley spouting right-wing rectoric in his "no spin zone". Only middle to upper class white girls who go missing are reported on by the media. Need I go on?

Jonathan Hohensee: how exactly are businesses supposed to raise awareness of their products?

If you can stop singing along to George Michael on your iPod long enough to concentrate I'll explain this point too. It is one thing to raise awareness, it is another thing entirely to sell your product as part of a "lifestyle" which the likes of Apple do. Another major tool a marketer has is to show how "convenient" and "time-saving" something is. What is the one thing that all convenience products have? Disposable packaging, usually in 3 layers. What's one of the biggest bains of urban life? Waste. Coming back to Apple - do you really thing that the iPhone would have sold as well as it has without a ginormous campaign touting the so-called benefits of a device the likes of which has been around for about 5 years? Does anyone really "need" all those features? No, they don't, and the one feature of a cellphone that is the most critical, being able to make a call, the 2nd version of the device doesn't do well, if at all - where's that in the marketing material? Ah, that's right - nowhere, pushed out by a quote from Steve Jobs about how you have the opportunity to buy 3 devices in 1. Then there's planned obsolescence, another tool for parting fools from their cash - who do you think came up with that idea? Do you really car manufacturers would be able to survive if they only built cars that people wanted, ran forever & needed minimal survicing? Why do laptop manufacturers insist on using proprietry batteries that change every 2 years?

The biggest point/message that Bill Hicks had is that humanity can do much, much, much, much better than it is now. The sad part is that nowhere near enough people heard it and of those that did, people like you didn't get it. Being able to think critically about things is not being a bitter & twisted person. The greatest moments in history have been when people woke up and as a whole said "this is BULLSHIAT" and changed things for the better. The US Constitution and Declaration Of Independence mark one of those moments.

Arhu: Jonathan Hohensee: how exactly are businesses supposed to raise awareness of their products?

If you can stop singing along to George Michael on your iPod long enough to concentrate I'll explain this point too.

Your entire post was supercilious crap, but this is the line that made me say "Wow" and stop even trying to take you seriously.

It's nice to see that the "message" of Bill Hicks lives on with his followers. No, I'm not talking about whatever...arguments you were making. I'm talking about the message that all one has to do is assume ("assume" being the operative word) a position of smug superiority over those who dare lead a different lifestyle to be considered "genius," a "forward thinker." But you have it all figured out, don't you? If everybody would just live the way you do, listen to the music you listen to, and buy the products you buy, we'd all be so much better people. Well, I only get one go-round in this universe and I'm sure as shiat not gonna waste it being a miserable, cynical, ivory-tower tightass like you.

And did you really try to take a swipe at FOX news? The network that everybody left of Genghis Khan has been mocking for the better part of a decade? OOOOOOOOOOH, that's real edgy. You're way ahead of the curve on that one!

But the most ridiculous thing is that all of the progressive, intellectual material you and Hicks prattle on about is out there. It's easily available for people to consume. And guess what: they consume it. They think critically and they better themselves every day. So people also indulge in some American Gladiators and George Michael. That doesn't make them stupid sheep, that makes them individuals with broad and varied interest, individuals with the type of depth that you and your ilk are too shallow to notice. But you go ahead and just assume that we're all too dumb to "get it". I'm sure that'll give your fellow sheep hearty guffaws at the expense of humanity. You guys need it much more than we do.

The Great EZE just made it to my favorites list for being able to say everything I wanted to say about Bill Hicks but could just barely articulate.

Arhu: What makes you a sheep is hearing the words but not the message. He said that there were 50 channels of American Gladiators, what he didn't say was the point - where's the popular TV that teaches you anything? Where are the journalists who call politicians to account for their actions? Instead we have mindless entertainment and pseudo-news. It saddens me that the NZ Herald website has an entire section dedicated to Apple, like they're the only consumer electronics company out there - every single thing that happens in one single company is not news. Fortunately I don't get Fox News which has Bill O'Reiley spouting right-wing rectoric in his "no spin zone". Only middle to upper class white girls who go missing are reported on by the media. Need I go on?

I love asking this question because I have yet to get a straight answer; what is it about "idiot" entertainment that apparently renders me incapable to follow "real" news? Isn't it possible that the two sides are not in competition with each other, but can be consumed at equal amounts, or even concurrently?

As a bonus question, American Gladiators, when it was on the air, was watched by over 12 million viewers. Wouldn't it be fair to say that among those thousands of people, at least a few of them where great artists, public intellectuals, along with a large assortment of people who make the world a better place? I mean, Bill Hicks himself admitted to watching Cops, playing "stupid" video games, and watching clam lickers porn.

Jonathan Hohensee: The Great EZE just made it to my favorites list for being able to say everything I wanted to say about Bill Hicks but could just barely articulate.

Take note, Hicks Sheep. This is how you become one of The Smart People. No conspiracy theories required.

And to those who doubt Bill's status as a prophet, he wanted to make "Let's Hunt and Kill Billy Ray Cyrus" way back in the early 90s. Had we been wise enough to do so, we wouldn't have Miley Cyrus right now.

This is something Leno would never do.

Jonathan Hohensee: The Great EZE just made it to my favorites list for being able to say everything I wanted to say about Bill Hicks but could just barely articulate.

Arhu: What makes you a sheep is hearing the words but not the message. He said that there were 50 channels of American Gladiators, what he didn't say was the point - where's the popular TV that teaches you anything? Where are the journalists who call politicians to account for their actions? Instead we have mindless entertainment and pseudo-news. It saddens me that the NZ Herald website has an entire section dedicated to Apple, like they're the only consumer electronics company out there - every single thing that happens in one single company is not news. Fortunately I don't get Fox News which has Bill O'Reiley spouting right-wing rectoric in his "no spin zone". Only middle to upper class white girls who go missing are reported on by the media. Need I go on?

I love asking this question because I have yet to get a straight answer; what is it about "idiot" entertainment that apparently renders me incapable to follow "real" news? Isn't it possible that the two sides are not in competition with each other, but can be consumed at equal amounts, or even concurrently?

As a bonus question, American Gladiators, when it was on the air, was watched by over 12 million viewers. Wouldn't it be fair to say that among those thousands of people, at least a few of them where great artists, public intellectuals, along with a large assortment of people who make the world a better place? I mean, Bill Hicks himself admitted to watching Cops, playing "stupid" video games, and watching clam lickers porn.


I recommend Seinfeld's humour. Hes got TONS of "ever been on an airplane" type of material and its going to be a lot less upsetting for you

The Great EZE: Take note, Hicks Sheep. This is how you become one of The Smart People. No conspiracy theories required.

Right on dude; anyone who has different likes than you is a sheep.

HappyHarryHardOn: Jonathan Hohensee: The Great EZE just made it to my favorites list for being able to say everything I wanted to say about Bill Hicks but could just barely articulate.

Arhu: What makes you a sheep is hearing the words but not the message. He said that there were 50 channels of American Gladiators, what he didn't say was the point - where's the popular TV that teaches you anything? Where are the journalists who call politicians to account for their actions? Instead we have mindless entertainment and pseudo-news. It saddens me that the NZ Herald website has an entire section dedicated to Apple, like they're the only consumer electronics company out there - every single thing that happens in one single company is not news. Fortunately I don't get Fox News which has Bill O'Reiley spouting right-wing rectoric in his "no spin zone". Only middle to upper class white girls who go missing are reported on by the media. Need I go on?

I love asking this question because I have yet to get a straight answer; what is it about "idiot" entertainment that apparently renders me incapable to follow "real" news? Isn't it possible that the two sides are not in competition with each other, but can be consumed at equal amounts, or even concurrently?

As a bonus question, American Gladiators, when it was on the air, was watched by over 12 million viewers. Wouldn't it be fair to say that among those thousands of people, at least a few of them where great artists, public intellectuals, along with a large assortment of people who make the world a better place? I mean, Bill Hicks himself admitted to watching Cops, playing "stupid" video games, and watching clam lickers porn.


I recommend Seinfeld's humour. Hes got TONS of "ever been on an airplane" type of material and its going to be a lot less upsetting for you

This is that smug "we disagree, therefore you are an idiot" logic that I have been complaining about all thread.

Do you have anything of substance to attack about my arguments with, or are you just going to keep calling me and idiot over and over until you suffocate on your own pretension?

I mean, you completely missed my point; that is it possible to enjoy BOTH Seinfeld and edgy, dark, "deep" material too. Watching things you arbitrarily deem as "worthless" is not indicative of a lack of intelligence (or inferiority), at all. Again, Bill Hicks himself played Sonic the Hedgehog and watched Cops. What a sheep that guy was.

Jonathan Hohensee: HappyHarryHardOn: Jonathan Hohensee: The Great EZE just made it to my favorites list for being able to say everything I wanted to say about Bill Hicks but could just barely articulate.

Arhu: What makes you a sheep is hearing the words but not the message. He said that there were 50 channels of American Gladiators, what he didn't say was the point - where's the popular TV that teaches you anything? Where are the journalists who call politicians to account for their actions? Instead we have mindless entertainment and pseudo-news. It saddens me that the NZ Herald website has an entire section dedicated to Apple, like they're the only consumer electronics company out there - every single thing that happens in one single company is not news. Fortunately I don't get Fox News which has Bill O'Reiley spouting right-wing rectoric in his "no spin zone". Only middle to upper class white girls who go missing are reported on by the media. Need I go on?

I love asking this question because I have yet to get a straight answer; what is it about "idiot" entertainment that apparently renders me incapable to follow "real" news? Isn't it possible that the two sides are not in competition with each other, but can be consumed at equal amounts, or even concurrently?

As a bonus question, American Gladiators, when it was on the air, was watched by over 12 million viewers. Wouldn't it be fair to say that among those thousands of people, at least a few of them where great artists, public intellectuals, along with a large assortment of people who make the world a better place? I mean, Bill Hicks himself admitted to watching Cops, playing "stupid" video games, and watching clam lickers porn.


I recommend Seinfeld's humour. Hes got TONS of "ever been on an airplane" type of material and its going to be a lot less upsetting for you

This is that smug "we disagree, therefore you are an idiot" logic that I have been complaining about all thread.

Do you have anything of substance to attack about my arguments with, or are you just going to keep calling me and idiot over and over until you suffocate on your own pretension?

I mean, you completely missed my point; that is it possible to enjoy BOTH Seinfeld and edgy, dark, "deep" material too. Watching things you arbitrarily deem as "worthless" is not indicative of a lack of intelligence (or inferiority), at all. Again, Bill Hicks himself played Sonic the Hedgehog and watched Cops. What a sheep that guy was.


Enjoy your "50 channels of American Gladiators" and good luck to you

Oh, I get it, you are a troll.
I never catch them.

So people also indulge in some American Gladiators and George Michael. That doesn't make them stupid sheep, that makes them individuals with broad and varied interests

Sorry, but since when does American Gladiators and George Michael = 'Broad and Varied Interests'?