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2009-01-28 03:21:23 PM
atlas spanked: Besides, most ground venison lovers add beef suet into their 'lean' meat anyway.

Suet is a terrible thing to add to venison. The people I know who add in fat use bacon. Otherwise, the meat won't stay together well in a patty.
I usually make a pound or two of ground venison with bacon, but leave it out of the rest.
 
2009-01-28 03:32:05 PM
Grass Hopper: All that says is that "we evolved" to be meat eaters by eating meat. Presumably if we hadn't, we would have "evolved" the other way.

And we may expend less energy digesting. I'm pretty sure you expend more energy hunting down an animal than a banana.


We evolved to be omnivores because early humans needed a lot of calories to run their ever-larger brains.
You may expend more energy hunting down a mammoth than a banana, but the reward is many times larger in terms of calories. A mammoth could feed a village for a month. A banana could feed the guy who helped herd it into a canyon and drop a big rock on its head long enough to do so.
Meat was probably a feast or famine deal to early humans. Either they were able to procure it, or they had to go out and gather a lot of nuts, berries, and fruit. Keep in mind that a lot of the fruits and vegetables we know and love weren't around until they were cultivated over thousands of generations into their current forms. Potatoes are a great example.
 
2009-01-28 03:43:10 PM
El Dudereno: Grass Hopper: All that says is that "we evolved" to be meat eaters by eating meat. Presumably if we hadn't, we would have "evolved" the other way.

And we may expend less energy digesting. I'm pretty sure you expend more energy hunting down an animal than a banana.

We evolved to be omnivores because early humans needed a lot of calories to run their ever-larger brains.
You may expend more energy hunting down a mammoth than a banana, but the reward is many times larger in terms of calories. A mammoth could feed a village for a month. A banana could feed the guy who helped herd it into a canyon and drop a big rock on its head long enough to do so.
Meat was probably a feast or famine deal to early humans. Either they were able to procure it, or they had to go out and gather a lot of nuts, berries, and fruit. Keep in mind that a lot of the fruits and vegetables we know and love weren't around until they were cultivated over thousands of generations into their current forms. Potatoes are a great example.


I could argue this back and forth all day, but it's a little pointless. If I even accepted your position that meat eating was necessary for evolution (I don't), that does not explain why it's necessary now.

Someone pointed out that chimps (who we are genetically similiar to) occasionally eat other chimps. Does that make cannibalism allright?

Whatever we are evolved to do - we have evolved. If you choose to eat meat or not (I am not advocating vegetarianism for everyone) - take responsibility for your choices. Don't blame your ancestors.
 
2009-01-28 03:45:09 PM
What_do_you_want_now: Marla Singer's Laundry: I'll say it. I love steak, whether it comes from Flossie or from your trousers.

I'll out-f*** any Mary Moon hairy-pitted sag-titted bride of the forest ANY. DAY. OF. THE. YEAR!!!!

This is Marla talkin'

That sound you hear is the hearts of millions fluttering after reading that post.

/wedding ring, save me...


THIS!!!!!!

/Dayumm, girl - you make an old man's heart go pitty-pat!
 
2009-01-28 03:48:50 PM
Sticky Hands: Depends on the culture, the colder cultures (Inuit, Mongolian) would consider our diets low in meat. However, an air conditioned office probably doesn't create the same nutritional demands as the tundra or the steppe.

The inuit diet is hardly high in protein though. It's almost entirely fat. I don't know much about the mongolian, but yes, of course there are going to be exceptions. My point is that throughout human history, our meat intake was probably generally lower than it is now.
 
2009-01-28 04:01:23 PM
desidog:
There is a happy medium. Very few people can make a 500yd shot...go try it.

Been there, done that.

/USMC
 
2009-01-28 04:28:03 PM
Cyborg77: Bloodninja: Wanna cyber?
MommyMelissa: Sure, you into vegetables?
Bloodninja: What like gardening an shiat?
MommyMelissa: Yeah, something like that.
Bloodninja: Nuthin turns me on more, check this out
Bloodninja: You bend over to harvest your radishes.
(pause)
MommyMelissa: is that it?
Bloodninja: You water your tomato patch.
Bloodninja: Are you ready for my fresh produce?
MommyMelissa: I was thinking of like, sexual acts INVOLVING vegetables... Can you make it a little more sexy for me?
(pause)
Bloodninja: I touch you on your lettuce, you massage my spinach... Sexily.
Bloodninja: I ride your buttocks, like they were amber waves of grains.
MommyMelissa: Grain doesn't really turn me on... I was thinking more along the lines of carrots and zucchinis.
Bloodninja: my zucchinis carresses your carrots.
Bloodninja: Damn baby your right, this shiat is HOT.
MommyMelissa: ...
Bloodninja: My turnips listen for the soft cry of your love. My insides turn to celery as I unleash my warm and sticky cauliflower of love.
MommyMelissa: What the fark is this madlibs? I'm outta here.
Bloodninja: Yah, well I already unleashed my cauliflower, all over your olives, and up in your eyes. Now you can't see. *****.
MommyMelissa: whatever.


ah man. I haven't read that shiat in a while. nice post.
 
2009-01-28 05:00:36 PM
Who wants some of that nasty hot-tub vegetable soup, now with extra ass?
 
2009-01-28 05:14:59 PM
how many animals could have been saved with the money they spent on an advert they knew would be rejected? why is PETA so damn stupid?
 
2009-01-28 05:15:16 PM
I would just like to point out, in the most constructive and helpful way possible, that Hitler was a vegetarian.
 
2009-01-28 08:12:53 PM
People still read Huffington Post?
 
2009-01-28 09:06:48 PM
I love people who have had so much for so long without actually being forced to work for anything.
They begin to search for a cause because they've never had to suffer for anything.

SO entertaining to hear their passionate pleas for you to follow their way.
They know better than you, they ARE better than you.

Vanity is my favorite sin
 
2009-01-28 09:22:05 PM
I'm just going to place this here...

www.howtokillpeople.com
 
2009-01-28 10:38:15 PM
Arman N. Havana: I would just like to point out, in the most constructive and helpful way possible, that Hitler was a vegetarian.

Hirohito ate meat... your point?

Charles Manson played guitar, that doesn't make everyone who plays guitar a serial killer.
 
2009-01-28 11:29:40 PM
myfootyrthroat: Hirohito ate meat... your point?

My point is that you can't have a real discussion of PETA and vegetarianism without addressing the fact that Hitler was a vegetarian. It would be like discussing Austria without talking about kangaroos.
 
2009-01-29 01:07:33 AM
Carrot Juice Is Murder Link (new window)
 
2009-01-29 01:17:48 AM
I'm all for eating vegetables... I really like them and probably wouldn't even miss having meat products in my diet if I did a little planning beforehand.

I want to propose a little scenario;

I live in southern Illinois. The ground is currently covered in about 6" of snow. I'm hungry and cold. Presuming that I'm a feral man and don't have a freezer or pantry to supply me, I have to brave the elements in order to get my next meal. I have the choice to either rut around in the snow hoping to find the rare leaf that I'm actually capable of digesting to eat the rabbits and squirrels that are running around.... I think that everyone can guess what I'd try to do.

Saying that humans are meant to be herbivores is just like saying that humans should all live in the Amazon rainforest where we can be comfortable being naked all year and have a steady supply of food all of the time. It may work for a few people out there but simply wouldn't be feasible for a large population.

In order for a human to survive in this climate it requires a civilization that can provide warmth, clothing and food.... part of which happens to come from animals.

/just try making winter clothes from grass at home.
//I may not eat much meat and respect the vegan lifestyle but I'm convinced that we are omnivores.
 
2009-01-29 10:11:27 AM
ddelorm: * Meat-eaters: have claws
Herbivores: no claws
Humans: no claws


We have fingernails, which are essentially flat claws. Large herbivores tend to have hooves (split or not) but small herbivores, such as mice, rabbits etc, do in fact have proper claws.


ddelorm: * Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongue
Herbivores: perspire through skin pores
Humans: perspire through skin pores


Skin pores are more a function of body hair than diet. I'm actually at a loss to think of any animal other than primates which really sweat as a primary means of temperature control.


ddelorm: * Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding
Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding


(Normal) Humans have 8 incisor and 4 canine teeth, which are pretty sharp. Humans also have molars for grinding, which is why we are usually classified as omnivores.


ddelorm: * Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly
Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.
Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.


Not sure what kind of freak show this guy was running, but the human small intestine is only about 20 feet long, which (if the average person is about 5 feet high) is only 4 times their height, not 10-12.


ddelorm: * Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat
Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater
Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater


I have not found any reliable source of information (read: non-vegetarian advocate sites that didn't echo all of these other points almost verbatim) that actually backs this up. Human gastric acid has a pH of 1 to 2. Some sites claim that a carnivore's stomach acid is "less than 1" but unless they're secreting something other than hydrochloric acid (hint: they're not) this is actually impossible.


ddelorm: * Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.
Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits
Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits

* Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains



Not sure what to make of this claim. Salivary glands serve basically two purposes: moisturizing/lubricating foods, and enzyme action to aid digestion. I will admit that amylase and ptyalin, enzymes that converts starches into simpler sugars, is not present in carnivore saliva... but it's not present in some herbivore saliva either, such as cows.

On the other hand, many "hard-core" herbivores have multiple stomachs and will regurgitate their food to chew it again. Humans don't.

So based on this, I will submit that "A.D. Andrews" needs to learn him some basic biology and ditch the new-age health crap. People have the required biology to consume and digest meat.
=Smidge=
 
2009-01-29 10:33:04 AM
The Icelander: Alonjar: /Raise your hand if you have ever had your opinion changed by a peta commercial. Yeah, thats what I thought.

If a couple of those hotties in their ads came over to my house dressed in a trenchcoat and a smile and spent the night, I'd go vegan vag-itarian.

\For a week


FTFY
 
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