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(BBC)   PC school bans red pens to make pupils feel better   ( divider line
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2003-01-23 02:38:14 PM  
fark no wonder kids are growing up half retarted, can't kid and generally little shiats!
Bring back the strap - that kept me in line in school
2003-01-23 02:49:21 PM  
I think FARK should use the same idea, and all the red articles in TotalFark should go through and the green ones not.

What, no voting?
2003-01-23 03:12:53 PM  
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Sorry, couldn't resist!

Hell, when I was a kid, the Brothers of St. Patrick would make us use our own blood to mark our work.
2003-01-23 03:40:33 PM  
Weaps wins. Contest is over.
2003-01-23 04:16:31 PM  
God forbid we actually show our children that there is something WRONG with being WRONG.
2003-01-23 04:18:06 PM  
"the red pen has negative connotations and can be seen as a negative approach to improving pupils' work."

So the green pen is saying it's good work? That makes sense, everything everybody does in life works out perfect! Just keep re-inforcing that. Use religious brainwashing techniques, they work great.
2003-01-23 04:44:00 PM  
I say we settle this one with a game of Dodge Ball. Oh wait...that's banned, too? Crap.

These kids are gonna be so soft when they grow up. Our world is going to hell when they grow up.

I can't wait until I have kids, and they watch football on the weekends with me..."Gee, dad. He shouldn't have knocked that guy down. That was mean. I wonder what school they went to."
2003-01-23 05:04:46 PM  
I cannot wait until I am an old man and don't have to worry about punk ass kids, because they are a bunch of pussies.

And great job weaps, but you also forgot that there is no punctuation at the end of his post.
2003-01-23 05:34:52 PM  
Maybe they are just still afraid of Communism?
2003-01-23 06:16:15 PM  
Next thing you know they'll be getting rid of grades because they upset the poor little darlings. Oh wait. Some places do that already, don't they? Christ on a pogo stick....
2003-01-23 06:22:46 PM  
Although I have to admit. As a teacher I use purple ink and avoid red because, well, purple is just cooler is all.

Actually certain times of the year, students get so stressed if they see a paper that looks like you butchered a small animal on it, it does more damage than any kind of good. I still write a lot and make really snide comments but its sounds so much better being written in purple they don't realize that i'm using phrases like "woefully inadequate"... otherwise they cry at me and stuff. Mostly I do it so I don't have to deal with them flaking out than for their comfort.

All I'm saying is that there is a reasoning behind it. Banning the pens and making it a rule is very stupid though.
2003-01-23 06:39:33 PM  
LadyLazaruss: The fundamentalist right may have you avoid using that purple pen because, you know, it's just a little...

...well, lets just say you can use it on the girls' papers but not the boys'.
2003-01-23 09:26:00 PM  
Next thing you know they'll be changing the height of swings

This asinine story reminds me of Bart playing musical chairs with more chairs than students, when put in the "leg-up" program

"Hooray, you're all winners"
2003-01-23 09:26:47 PM  
I'm not sure why, but I feel better knowing that the PC crowd is ruining another country as well.
2003-01-23 09:26:48 PM  
So now green is the colour of negativity? What's the difference? The mistakes are still going to be in a stand out colour!
2003-01-23 09:28:06 PM  
I envision a future of the world with no one in it.
2003-01-23 09:29:14 PM  
I think part of the reason people are so stupid today is that they were given grades they didnt deserve because it would hurt their feelings. At least thats how my elementary and middle school seemed to work. More weird PC stuff from Europe.
2003-01-23 09:30:10 PM  
just a step closer to "students can no longer do things wrong just not completely right in the teacher's opinion, which does not matter because you are special!"
2003-01-23 09:31:14 PM  

everyone pull out a circle of paper, and we'll see if we can finish our work on the letter "A" this week.

Bart: Let me get this straight; we're behind the rest of our class, so we're going to catch up to them by going slower?? Cuckoo!

*Cuckoo cuookooo cookoo Cucooo

that episode is classic.
2003-01-23 09:31:32 PM  

Coddle them now so they fail to empower themselves so they can be really f*cking miserable the rest of their wretched f*cking lives.

God damn it, I'm pissed!
2003-01-23 09:31:46 PM  
I can't blame a woman named 'Penny Penn-Howard'. With a name like that, you'd be off your rocker too.
2003-01-23 09:32:55 PM  
True story:
When I was working on my undergrad degree in Electrical Engineering (mid 80s), I had a professor who graded exclusively in green ink. He explained to us that another professor, who was big into the psychology of learning, had told him that red ink carried a negative connotation for the recipient, and that was why he graded in ink.

The prof that told him that always graded in red.
2003-01-23 09:33:05 PM  
This is almost as bad as that new math shiat they put out some years ago. You never got the question wrong as long as you tried your best and followed "the work flow."

It didn't matter whether or not the answer was correct.... And so we continue with the wussification of the civilised world.
2003-01-23 09:33:43 PM  
- reminds me of that Simpson's episode where Bart and his new class are playing musical chairs with the extra chair..
2003-01-23 09:34:02 PM  
i have no idea why....but this only reminds me of Jim Carrey in Liar Liar trying to tell himself that the color of the pen is NOT blue....
2003-01-23 09:34:29 PM  
Lehrer had a song about "New Math."
2003-01-23 09:35:05 PM  
just another pathetic excuse for big brother to get involved in every aspect of our lives. next theyll be telling us that brown turds are banned because tehy upset the creative efficiency of the toilet. nuff said
2003-01-23 09:35:23 PM  
When I was a teacher, I used red only because I heard that red was the new black, but now that green is the new red, I'm glad I don't teach anymore because I don't get fashion too good.
2003-01-23 09:35:53 PM  
lets make fark PC ... yea , then dorks can come out and play too !!

/i'm a dork
2003-01-23 09:36:14 PM  
Wait a second, so you're saying that if I write "You are a retarded little shiat that cannot grasp the English language to save your arse" in GREEN ink instead of RED, that makes the words less critical or harsh? Riiiiight.
2003-01-23 09:36:44 PM  
Weaps - haha! good stuff.
2003-01-23 09:38:36 PM  
Poor kids, they should all get A+++++'s. That way nobody gets their feelings hurt.
2003-01-23 09:38:39 PM  
I would like to say that, as a 17 year old... THIS IS BULL shiat!, and is further proof that a majority of PC needs to die a horrible, horribe death...
2003-01-23 09:38:57 PM  
Four well-dressed men sitting together at a vacation resort. "Farewell to Thee" being played in the background on Hawaiian guitar.

Michael Palin: Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable.

Graham Chapman: Nothing like a good glass of Chateau de Chassilier wine, ay Gessiah?

Terry Gilliam: You're right there Obediah.

Eric Idle: Who'd a thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?

MP: Aye. In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.

GC: A cup ' COLD tea.

EI: Without milk or sugar.

TG: OR tea!

MP: In a filthy, cracked cup.

EI: We never used to have a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.

GC: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.

TG: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.

MP: Aye. BECAUSE we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

EI: 'E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.

GC: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!

TG: You were lucky to have a ROOM! *We* used to have to live in a corridor!

MP: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor! Woulda' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.

EI: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered by a piece of tarpaulin, but it was a house to US.

GC: We were evicted from *our* hole in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake!

TG: You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.

MP: Cardboard box?

TG: Aye.

MP: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!

GC: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!

TG: Well we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.

EI: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."

MP: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.

ALL: Nope, nope..
2003-01-23 09:39:31 PM  
If you don't hurt their damn feelings, then how the hell are they gonna learn!

Oh, and Weaps, you da man!
2003-01-23 09:39:51 PM  

Soon it won't be called a mistake. You see, mistake has a negative connotation to it. Isn't getting a wrong answer supposed to carry a negative connotation?
2003-01-23 09:40:01 PM  
The little bastards have to learn that if you don't put good and constant effort into your own life, the universe and everybody in it will take a collective crap on you.
2003-01-23 09:42:17 PM  
You'd think they'd given up red ink in English classes long ago, judging by the grammar and spelling seen on the 'Net.
2003-01-23 09:43:53 PM  
You know those oversized, permanant, red markers? I had a teacher in High School who kept one just for papers with spiral-bound frizzies on the left edge. You got the big, red "X" and your paper handed right back to you. That's a lesson you won't forget. And, he was a good teacher.
2003-01-23 09:44:55 PM  
My stepfather is a college history professor. His red pen purchases alone probably keep the Bic company afloat.
2003-01-23 09:45:28 PM  
Even if you get a 99 with a red pen, it's still an A+. A 61 with a blue pen is still a D-.

/all deep and shiat
2003-01-23 09:47:57 PM  
everyone knows how to use a cell phone with 1789 different functions, 35 games and 900,000 ring tones tho
2003-01-23 09:49:24 PM  
Only thing stupid about this is that people actually care.

And what happens to kids that are colour blind? Don't they have a hard time disinguishing green from other colours?
2003-01-23 09:51:48 PM  
Wow there have been plenty of articles on fark lately about how kids today are turning into total wussies!

First, there were parents fighting about parking spaces in the pickup lane at their brat's school because thier kids can't take the bus. Second, the latest trend of using those rolling bags that you pull in school. Bags that if I used would cause me to get a major a** whoopin!

Now they have decided to ban red ink for grading because they are afraid of hurting the kids feelings!

I am really afraid for the future. Kids today are going to grow up complete whimps, with no negogiating skills who feel that arguing and throwing temper tantrums will be the best way to solve thier probelms when things don't go thier way. Kids will be completely fat and lazy because walking or carrying objects have never been required for them. And finally kids who cannot take constructive criticism because thier teachers were banned from showing them thier mistakes, and letting them learn from them.

If they think that banning red ink is going to hurt the feelings of the kids, it will be only a matter of time before green will be banned as well.

2003-01-23 09:52:19 PM  
a 99 is an A and a 61 is an F around here Millay

apparently you went to a PC hippy school where they infalted the grades
2003-01-23 09:54:46 PM  
Why don't teachers just start writing "doubleplusgood" on all of the papers.....
Kat [TotalFark]
2003-01-23 09:58:15 PM  
This is ridiculous.

Then again, I have noticed my math teacher grades my tests MUCH easier than the other kids, I always tell him that he missed wrong answers, and he just says "Oh my mistake, oh well." Then again, he tends to favor girls, and if you're attractive you can get away with murder in his class.

Rock on with my bad self.
2003-01-23 09:58:47 PM  
I remember back in the day we didn't tolerate wussiness. We used to lock kids in the lockers, hit them with rulers AND wrote in red.

And look how great we are today.
2003-01-23 09:59:47 PM  

It depends on what the green is being compared to. I'm blue-green colorblind, but I can tell red from green easily, which is great at Christmas and in traffic.
2003-01-23 10:00:22 PM  
we had a similar PC environment in elementary school... they did away with the A,B,C,D,F grades and replaced them with O,G,S,U... (Outstanding, Good, Satisfactory, Unsatisfactory). it made for some pretty stupid report cards.
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