Translation for North Dakota residents: Rabbit stew, deer meat, and canned veggies for a few weeks.

Phil Plait to pitch his book in 3...2...

is it wrong that I think this would be pretty entertaining?

amishkarl: is it wrong that I think this would be pretty entertaining?

I think the complete breakdown of society might be entertaining -- to a sociopath. Otherwise, it'd pretty much be constant suckage.

All the wired-electronics will be fine, and cars will also be fine. The wireless products will... mostly be fine. Commercial hardened satelites will mostly be fine. Mil Sats will definitely be fine.

//Technies with GPA's above 3.5 are good at running whiteboards

AR55: This will become the norm.

I came here to post that same damn image. Dammit.

"We are the monsters!"
"Have you been OUTSIDE?!"

RogermcAllen: If only Chicago what's his name was here, surely he could fix the internet.

No Zombies are safe from Chicago Ted.

ninjakirby: RogermcAllen: If only Chicago what's his name was here, surely he could fix the internet.

No Zombies are safe from Chicago Ted.

My favorite (and even on that same wall) is the "That's vampires moron!" exchange.

dreadprophet: My favorite (and even on that same wall) is the "That's vampires moron!" exchange.

While not writing on the saferoom walls, my favorite exchanges are

"I can't get over how fast they all are, it's not even fair, I'm callin' Zombie Bullshiat on that, you know haha, they're not allowed to be so fast!"

"You call this a Zombie Apocalypse? Don't hold a candle to the great Zombie attack of 57! Hah...nah, I'm just shiattin' ya."

And of course everything Francis says.

Looks like their suggestions match that of Congress' 2004 EMP vulnerability report. I'm working on hardening my workplace and home against both.

Link (pdf, new window)

pandabear: The thought of major cities without power for several weeks is very amusing.

Now where in hell did I put that bottle of Hoppe's No. 9 and the brush?

It wouldn't be amusing if you lived in said city. A cascade collapse of the national power grid and the major transformers damaged beyond repair is freaking scary as hell. city's depend on electricity to run their water systems so clean water will be the first to go, phones may come back after the solar storm but will go away within days without power.

Our transportation system runs on oil but the systems that distribute the oil through the pipelines run on electricity so oil will be hard to get anywhere and get harder the further north you get. And without easy access to oil, moving food or anything else gets very difficult.

Fema draws resources from unaffected areas of the country to aid people in devastated areas. but if the whole country is devastated Fema is useless.

If this happens on a nationwide scale you do NOT want to be in a major city. Water born disease will hit after a week. food shortages will cause hunger after 2 weeks, after a month people will flee the cities on foot (no gas to run cars) looking for food. most parts of this country cannot support their local populations without an efficient infrastructure.

Simple truth - take away electricity people will being to die.

Wait... We Farkers might go outside.. Well there would be a rise in suntan lotion. (if you can find a place to buy it)

i find it humorous that people think the 1859 event is about the largest event that could happen, or the notion that it always occurs infrequently.

i remember the scoffing farkers when i mentioned historical evidence of weapons and nails causing fires in ancient history, Entire army camps set ablaze...
That only the last, most foolish empire would choose metal to put into their foundations of clay.

a large neough CME could do wonders to all our reinforced concrete structures.

// there will be more historical info coming out about this..
I will be say'n
i told u so

Fano 2009-01-22 12:00:16 AM:

// FYI
If one reads of fiery events in very old literature with the understanding of CME in mind.. an interesting theory suggests itself,
such as that in 5000bc humans could look back a few thousand years and know that metal is unreliable and dangerous.[from their point of view]

The Sagas describe Grendle, who was a firey being/dragon who would come flying in the night and set on fire the 'Great House' where all the weapons were kept.
When The Hero waited to meet Grendle, described it as a plasma/fire being hovering amongst the weapons, burning up everything in its reach.

there are Biblical accounts of armies which were mysteriously set afire...the whole camp at once.. & many other 'Fire Events' mentioned in that book, the best ancient history book known to man.

if you were an ancient Viking & saw burning villages under it


what would you call it?

JSTACAT

Your posts intrigue me. Which person/books did you get this idea from? Do you have any suggestions about books on the topic or the phenomenon you describe?

I think I will just go camping...

AR55 2009-01-22 12:19:54 AM
JSTACAT

Your posts intrigue me. Which person/books did you get this idea from? Do you have any suggestions about books on the topic or the phenomenon you describe?"

// i am a fan of ancient histories and particularly the ancient myths & legends. Flying carpets? Yes, on waves of harmonised sound...
DARPA is already working on that, working models....

i was daydreaming one day about what the smallest cosmic cause of the cancelling of mankind's steel & concrete system could be, because God seems to use very small causes to do huge rearrangements.

I figured a huge NEMP from the sun for about 3 days would do it, keys right into the 3 days of pitch darkness around doomsday mentioned in a very old book...a sunspot that covers the entire disc of the sun...for 3 days.. even the mountains would be penetrated.

small causes... like a subtle change in the quantum physics of water molecular arrangement.. created [made possible] Rainbows
Also increased earth's gravity, shrunk it, wrinkled it, caused ice caps ...
after the 'big flood' where 1/2 the waters came up from the core of the earth.
If you read the details of the flood very carefully, a number of strange scientifically advanced, interesting things are described.


any old history info, old books.. legends
get to it before they finish burning the books
tv, internet, conveinience, shallow vocab...
hell, the books practically burn themselves

JSTACAT: AR55 2009-01-22 12:19:54 AM
JSTACAT

Your posts intrigue me. Which person/books did you get this idea from? Do you have any suggestions about books on the topic or the phenomenon you describe?"

// i am a fan of ancient histories and particularly the ancient myths & legends. Flying carpets? Yes, on waves of harmonised sound...
DARPA is already working on that, working models....

i was daydreaming one day about what the smallest cosmic cause of the cancelling of mankind's steel & concrete system could be, because God seems to use very small causes to do huge rearrangements.

I figured a huge NEMP from the sun for about 3 days would do it, keys right into the 3 days of pitch darkness around doomsday mentioned in a very old book...a sunspot that covers the entire disc of the sun...for 3 days.. even the mountains would be penetrated.

small causes... like a subtle change in the quantum physics of water molecular arrangement.. created [made possible] Rainbows
Also increased earth's gravity, shrunk it, wrinkled it, caused ice caps ...
after the 'big flood' where 1/2 the waters came up from the core of the earth.
If you read the details of the flood very carefully, a number of strange scientifically advanced, interesting things are described.


Wow that's a whole lot of crazy right there...

superchump [TotalFark] 2009-01-22 01:07:09 AM
Wow that's a whole lot of crazy right there...""


aandd,
typically thats why old books arn't read, and get burned...

Can someone explain to me what happens during the period of time when our magnetosphere switches poles?

Do we all get cooked by the solar wind while it switches?

JSTACAT: AR55 2009-01-22 12:19:54 AM
JSTACAT

Your posts intrigue me. Which person/books did you get this idea from? Do you have any suggestions about books on the topic or the phenomenon you describe?"

// i am a fan of ancient histories and particularly the ancient myths & legends. Flying carpets? Yes, on waves of harmonised sound...
DARPA is already working on that, working models....

i was daydreaming one day about what the smallest cosmic cause of the cancelling of mankind's steel & concrete system could be, because God seems to use very small causes to do huge rearrangements.

I figured a huge NEMP from the sun for about 3 days would do it, keys right into the 3 days of pitch darkness around doomsday mentioned in a very old book...a sunspot that covers the entire disc of the sun...for 3 days.. even the mountains would be penetrated.

small causes... like a subtle change in the quantum physics of water molecular arrangement.. created [made possible] Rainbows
Also increased earth's gravity, shrunk it, wrinkled it, caused ice caps ...
after the 'big flood' where 1/2 the waters came up from the core of the earth.
If you read the details of the flood very carefully, a number of strange scientifically advanced, interesting things are described.


any old history info, old books.. legends
get to it before they finish burning the books
tv, internet, conveinience, shallow vocab...
hell, the books practically burn themselves

It's late, so I'll give you the short version:

REALITY DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.

/Slightly more elaborate version: Fluctuating magnetic fields large enough to ignite swords would also incinerate humans.
//Put down the crack pipe.

Phil Moskowitz: Can someone explain to me what happens during the period of time when our magnetosphere switches poles?

Do we all get cooked by the solar wind while it switches?

No because the atmosphere is still there...it's not like it goes away...

Phil Moskowitz: Can someone explain to me what happens during the period of time when our magnetosphere switches poles?

Do we all get cooked by the solar wind while it switches?

No. We might get more cancer and the aurora borealis should be pretty kickass. The last reversal predates humans, so there's no eyewitness record, but there's no correlation between extinctions and geomagnetic reversals in the fossil record.

superchump: Phil Moskowitz: Can someone explain to me what happens during the period of time when our magnetosphere switches poles?

Do we all get cooked by the solar wind while it switches?

No because the atmosphere is still there...it's not like it goes away...

So the atmosphere just absorbs high energy charged particles?

Phil Moskowitz 2009-01-22 01:12:15 AM
Can someone explain to me what happens during the period of time when our magnetosphere switches poles?

Do we all get cooked by the solar wind while it switches?"

// it is said to be physically catastrophic, and there are many previous instances.
science is just getting started on earth's radiation history, but ancient people inferred a lot about it they had personal knowledge.
If a person knew nothing about our daily modern life, how long would it take to figure out precisely the word 'car' just by reading random literature? there is a lot to the word 'car'

i really want to know if earths gravity was once 2/3 of what it is now, since most of the life forms are a lot smaller now and can not jump very far, get back probs, arthritis, saggn & baggn. almost like all the animals weren't designed for this much gravity.


iCurious...

Professor Science 2009-01-22 01:18:15 AM

Not Hot

JSTACAT:
// it is said to be physically catastrophic, and there are many previous instances.

Said by whom? On the scale of the magnetosphere, it'd screw around with things a lot. On the scale of the little bags of water scurrying around the surface, it can't do a damn thing but increase the background radiation a bit by letting more cosmic rays reach the atmosphere.

science is just getting started on earth's radiation history,

No. Science has a pretty good idea about how physics works, and when combined with the shiatloads of physical evidence we have that puts some pretty severe constraints on the sort of things that could have happened.

but ancient people inferred a lot about it they had personal knowledge.

Not about geomagnetic reversal. The last ancestor you had who witnessed that was a Homo erectus.

If a person knew nothing about our daily modern life, how long would it take to figure out precisely the word 'car' just by reading random literature? there is a lot to the word 'car'

i really want to know if earths gravity was once 2/3 of what it is now, since most of the life forms are a lot smaller now and can not jump very far, get back probs, arthritis, saggn & baggn. almost like all the animals weren't designed for this much gravity.

We humans are the only ones that get those problems, and that's because we can now survive a hell of a lot longer than we used to. When you only last 20 or 30 years before getting eaten by a tiger, it doesn't matter if you'll get arthritis in your 60s.

/Seriously, put down whatever it is you're smoking. You've had enough.

JSTACAT: Phil Moskowitz 2009-01-22 01:12:15 AM
Can someone explain to me what happens during the period of time when our magnetosphere switches poles?

Do we all get cooked by the solar wind while it switches?"

// it is said to be physically catastrophic, and there are many previous instances.
science is just getting started on earth's radiation history, but ancient people inferred a lot about it they had personal knowledge.
If a person knew nothing about our daily modern life, how long would it take to figure out precisely the word 'car' just by reading random literature? there is a lot to the word 'car'

i really want to know if earths gravity was once 2/3 of what it is now, since most of the life forms are a lot smaller now and can not jump very far, get back probs, arthritis, saggn & baggn. almost like all the animals weren't designed for this much gravity.


iCurious...

Animals were larger because there was more oxygen in the atmosphere to sustain the growth. We know this because of dissolved gases in rock and soil core samples.

Professor Science 2009-01-22 01:43:58 AM
JSTACAT:
// it is said to be physically catastrophic, and there are many previous instances.

Said by whom? On the scale of the magnetosphere, it'd screw around with things a lot. On the scale of the little bags of water scurrying around the surface, it can't do a damn thing but increase the background radiation a bit by letting more cosmic rays reach the atmosphere."

// Velikovski & other para scientific 'dreamers'.... they're not crazy, just curious, and not afraid to speculate.

30 yrs ago, the science books said the grand canyon took millions of years to form....uh, well how about a few months...caused by a big flood.
as far as weather problems loss of mag field caused, it needs further investigation.

science requires curiosity

amishkarl: is it wrong that I think this would be pretty entertaining?

I hope not cause I wanna see it.

TheOmni [TotalFark] 2009-01-22 02:39:57 AM

they dont like wires in their houses.

I bet people would lose it.

Lose it. It means, "go crazy." Nuts. Bonzo. No longer in control of one's faculties. Three fries short of a Happy Meal!



And there would possibly be golfing over several billion mile courses.

/I knew that image would come in handy one day.

JSTACAT: TheOmni [TotalFark] 2009-01-22 02:39:57 AM

they dont like wires in their houses.

But they sure do love to use tons and tons of metal ducting and nails in their house. Their religion prevents them from using mechanical and electrical modernizations....but they're not cave men by any means. Trust me I grow up around them. As long as they don't own it they'll use a phone all day or drive a tractor all day.

I'm not sure were you're going with all this CME and giant flood bullshiat but it's getting downright stupid. Speculate all you want but just don't pretend it's science unless you can back up your speculation without mentioning book burnings every 30 seconds.

"The strongest geomagnetic storm on record is the Carrington Event of August-September 1859, named after British astronomer Richard Carrington who witnessed the instigating solar flare with his unaided eye"

They always warned us not to do this. But they never mentioned that it could cause the downfall of technological civilization. Wow.

superchump: Wow that's a whole lot of crazy right there...

After reading that, Art Bell set fire to his trailer and ran away screaming into the High Desert.

Ob xkcd

JSTACAT: superchump [TotalFark] 2009-01-22 01:07:09 AM
Wow that's a whole lot of crazy right there...""


aandd,
typically thats why old books arn't read, and get burned...

Get back on your meds, please. You're nuts, and your posts are unreadable gibberish. You and the timecube guy should get together and write a book.