what about for motorboaterists? probably need a fair amount for that

And it's .04 for pilots. Different tasks require different levels of clarity.

That said, .1 is way to high to be driving a car, and .04 is too high to be flying a plane. Drink or operate motor vehicles. Pick one.

I'm confused.



How does hat choice affect your ability to drive?

You can't drown on asphalt.
Well, you could I suppose, but it's a hell of a lot more difficult.

and what tallguywithglasseson said.

This is good; every spring you need a boat to drive anywhere in Iowa anyway.

downstairs: Cubist Robot Party: That said, .1 is way to high to be driving a car

Well, the law is .08. And, no, if you're .08 you can operate a car just fine.

How high is too high to give your wife a rimjob?

downstairs: Cubist Robot Party: That said, .1 is way to high to be driving a car

Well, the law is .08. And, no, if you're .08 you can operate a car just fine.

At .08 I am barely intoxicated enough to drive.

Cubist Robot Party: That said, .1 is way to high to be driving a car,

Bullshiat. I've managed to get home well above that before.

seventypercent: tallguywithglasseson: God... dammit. How hard is this, to read things and understand them?

My granddaddy fought the Japs in WW2, so that practically makes me a veteran. The idea that I should have to actually read and understand things in this busy and modern age is hateful, and is a slap in the face to my service to our country.



Very nice!

Cubist Robot Party: downstairs: Cubist Robot Party: That said, .1 is way to high to be driving a car

Well, the law is .08. And, no, if you're .08 you can operate a car just fine.

How high is too high to give your wife a rimjob?

It depends on how well she wipes.

/Much like driving a car plastered depends on how well you can do it sober

tallguywithglasseson: Headline is flat wrong.Iowa's blood-alcohol limit for boat operators will probably be lowered this year from .10 to .08, key lawmakers said Tuesday.

If approved, the law for boaters would match the blood-alcohol limit for operating a motor vehicle.God... dammit. How hard is this, to read things and understand them?

You know, we've had just about enough of this "reading" crap of yours.

Lawmakers clearly need to INCREASE the legal limit for reading comprehension.

It's ridiculous that either are .08. They both should have stayed at .1. Fark you MADD!

/serious

PoopStain: Bullshiat. I've managed to get home well above that before.

I've gone through a full plate glass window head-first without a scratch before. Doesn't mean it's safe or that it's a good idea.

Cubist Robot Party: And it's .04 for pilots. Different tasks require different levels of clarity.

That said, .1 is way to high to be driving a car, and .04 is too high to be flying a plane. Drink or operate motor vehicles. Pick one.

The world's gone MADD

And 14 year olds can drive in Iowa.

The_Sponge: Boating without beer is lame.

Watching baseball sober is like fishing...sober.

Randvek: PoopStain: Bullshiat. I've managed to get home well above that before.

I've gone through a full plate glass window head-first without a scratch before. Doesn't mean it's safe or that it's a good idea.

The idea that one can still drive drunk is the worst argument I've ever heard. Although PoopStain is trolling I'll still bite.
Every year 40k+ die in car accidents for a variety of reasons. Even sober people under complete control of their vehicle die for various reasons.
Don't drink and drive, it's real easy. Either pick a sober driver, or spring for a cab with your friends. If you have money to buy drinks at the bar, you defininately have money to afford a cab ride home.

Cubist Robot Party: And it's .04 for pilots. Different tasks require different levels of clarity.

That said, .1 is way to high to be driving a car, and .04 is too high to be flying a plane. Drink or operate motor vehicles. Pick one.

Planes don't really have motors...they're more like turbines

I want to be able to test up to a BAC. Then I'd be certified on my license.

Endorsement: Certified DMV safe driver up to 0.17 BAC.

CBR ME ASAP: Cubist Robot Party: And it's .04 for pilots. Different tasks require different levels of clarity.

That said, .1 is way to high to be driving a car, and .04 is too high to be flying a plane. Drink or operate motor vehicles. Pick one.

Planes don't really have motors...they're more like turbines

Lots of small plans use internal combustion (as opposed to turbine) engines.

tweekster: And 14 year olds can drive in Iowa.

The_Sponge: Boating without beer is lame.

Watching baseball sober is like fishing...sober.

Not if the weather is nice!

AshHousewares18: Randvek: PoopStain: Bullshiat. I've managed to get home well above that before.

I've gone through a full plate glass window head-first without a scratch before. Doesn't mean it's safe or that it's a good idea.

The idea that one can still drive drunk is the worst argument I've ever heard. Although PoopStain is trolling I'll still bite.
Every year 40k+ die in car accidents for a variety of reasons. Even sober people under complete control of their vehicle die for various reasons.
Don't drink and drive, it's real easy. Either pick a sober driver, or spring for a cab with your friends. If you have money to buy drinks at the bar, you defininately have money to afford a cab ride home.

The argument isn't for drunk driving vs. anti-drunk driving. The argument is what constitutes drunk driving? I for one, have no problem operating a vehicle at .08. Now if you want to say "People have died when someone is driving at .08!" Feel free. But that argument can be applied to all driving.

You would have to be a huge moron to crash a boat, drunk or sober. There is usually so much room to manuever, I think you would have to TRY to hit something.

the_chief: I want to be able to test up to a BAC. Then I'd be certified on my license.

Endorsement: Certified DMV safe driver up to 0.17 BAC.

This. It would also help eliminate the morans who are dangerous at 0.0.

Well I use Mac/Linux...: You would have to be a huge moron to crash a boat, drunk or sober. There is usually so much room to manuever, I think you would have to TRY to hit something.



Disagrees

How much of an impact will this law even have?



Seriously.

And if you want to talk about statisticians giving evidence that .08 is too drunk, also, feel free if it helps you sleep at night. But these are probably the same statisticians that tell people that 5 drinks or more in a sitting is binge drinking because drinking has always been taboo (prohibition anyone?).

Having grown up in Iowa, I can say that most Hawkeye Staters should be chained up in the yard 24/7, regardless of intoxication level.

But boating while blind drunk is an American tradition, damnit! Here in Utah we celebrate it by driving speedboats full bore into Lake Powell's slickrock cliffs.

Hell, what are people supposed to do on spring break, July 4th, Pioneer Day? Besides, Youtube needs the content.

maqtastic: The argument isn't for drunk driving vs. anti-drunk driving. The argument is what constitutes drunk driving? I for one, have no problem operating a vehicle at .08. Now if you want to say "People have died when someone is driving at .08!" Feel free. But that argument can be applied to all driving.

This is the worst part of DUI. People are impaired by alcohol differently. Some couldn't drive at 0.05 and some would be fine at 0.1. A blanket law based a number doesn't really quantify impalement sucks.

/Yes, had a family member killed by a DUI
//Driver was 0.25, 6th DUI, a lower limit wouldn't have changed anything

maqtastic: And if you want to talk about statisticians giving evidence that .08 is too drunk, also, feel free if it helps you sleep at night. But these are probably the same statisticians that tell people that 5 drinks or more in a sitting is binge drinking because drinking has always been taboo (prohibition anyone?).

Hell my drug and alcohol counselor exgf said 10 drinks a week was considered an issue. Let's see, 1 drink a day after work or with dinner and a couple on saturday night. That certainly is signs of a problem.

CBR ME ASAP: Cubist Robot Party: And it's .04 for pilots. Different tasks require different levels of clarity.

That said, .1 is way to high to be driving a car, and .04 is too high to be flying a plane. Drink or operate motor vehicles. Pick one.

Planes don't really have motors...they're more like turbines

Small planes have piston engines.
/Pilot

Well I use Mac/Linux...: You would have to be a huge moron to crash a boat, drunk or sober. There is usually so much room to manuever, I think you would have to TRY to hit something.

Seems like a lot of huge morons forget that boats have no brakes.

I can't understand why you don't need a license to operate a boat on inland waterways. You need one for a car or for a motorcycle or truck. A boat is not all that much different.

/proud owner of a 19' Four Winns 190 Horizon

antelope: the_chief: I want to be able to test up to a BAC. Then I'd be certified on my license.

Endorsement: Certified DMV safe driver up to 0.17 BAC.

This. It would also help eliminate the morans who are dangerous at 0.0.


Sounds like a good idea, but the administrative overhead would be costly and I don't feel it is worth it.

Speaking as a fellow Iowan, the law for motorists is 0.08, and the law for boaters is 0.1 at the moment. Subby needs to learn to read.

/Iowa.
//Seriously.

Wow, writing a headline like that and then having it go to the main page must be pretty embarrasing. Adult illiteracy makes me sad. Did we figure out who subby is yet?

Cubist Robot Party: How high is too high to give your wife a rimjob?

My wife would probably enjoy that, just don't let me catch you (or you'll meet my buddy from Springfield)...

mandrsn1: This is the worst part of DUI. People are impaired by alcohol differently. Some couldn't drive at 0.05 and some would be fine at 0.1. A blanket law based a number doesn't really quantify impalement sucks.

Some people can drive safely at 90 MPH. Some chicks are mature enough to give consent before the age of consent in their state. Blanket laws are part of everyday life. It is most efficient to have a clear line that everyone follows. Sure it would be wonderful if everyone was given a set of rules tailored specifically to them but you are not a unique snowflake. The laws are designed to apply to "most people". If you are exceptional and better than "most people" suck it up and deal with it.

tweekster: maqtastic: And if you want to talk about statisticians giving evidence that .08 is too drunk, also, feel free if it helps you sleep at night. But these are probably the same statisticians that tell people that 5 drinks or more in a sitting is binge drinking because drinking has always been taboo (prohibition anyone?).

Hell my drug and alcohol counselor exgf said 10 drinks a week was considered an issue. Let's see, 1 drink a day after work or with dinner and a couple on saturday night. That certainly is signs of a problem.

for women, it's technically an issue (and because governmeny scientists say they have smaller brains, like a squirrel). ADA and other organizations say 2 standard drinks/day men (14/week) and 1 standard drink/day (7/week) for women is drinking in moderation; above that is "hazardous" or somesuch term.

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