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(AP)   Congress spent $10 million investigating each inch of Clinton's penis but only will spend $3 million investigating all of 9/11   ( divider line
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2003-01-23 12:16:20 AM  
Say what you want about Clinton being sleaze, but at least we ended up with a budget surplus under his administration, which Bush is now busy pissing away.

Want a massive tax cut? Ok, where's the massive spending cut?
2003-01-23 12:16:29 AM  
Dr.Fey Clinton was disbarred. This was an almost universal agreeement even with most Dems, except, of course, the Black Caucus and Babs.
2003-01-23 12:17:01 AM  

Why is consensual banging of an intern relevent to a sexual harrassment case?
2003-01-23 12:18:40 AM  
All I know is that if I worked my ass off to become President of the United States, and I make it, somebody needs to be sucking my dick, every day.
2003-01-23 12:19:49 AM  
1) Clinton had no idea that there would be a budget surplus. If he had any idea that this good fortune would come his way, he would have created a catchy slogan for his economic plan. Instead it hit him as a great surprise.
2) where's the massive spending cut. agreed!!!! we should have a massive spending cut. Liberals (and most conservatives) cringe.
2003-01-23 12:20:29 AM  
2003-01-23 12:20:51 AM  
Oh damn, how did I wind up in the Fark personals section?
2003-01-23 12:21:02 AM  
Nanookanano almost...but I don't want that person looking like Elvis Costello in the bad years.
2003-01-23 12:22:09 AM  
Bu11durm - I did not know that. Good.

Thray - If Bill Gates was sued by his secretary for sexual harassment, and he lied under oath about having an affair with his receptionist, everybody would want his head. It wasn't a side issue in the Paula Jones lawsuit, it was on point with what he was being accused.
2003-01-23 12:23:01 AM  
Come on, give a link to a credible source other than some guys rantings on

"In his final 18 months of military service in 1972 and 1973, Bush did not fly at all. And for much of that time, Bush was all but unaccounted for: For a full year, there is no record that he showed up for the periodic drills required of part-time guardsmen."
One-year gap in Bush's National Guard duty via the Boston Globe

"After a thorough search of military records, George W. Bush's presidential campaign has failed to find any documents proving he reported for duty during an eight- month stint in Alabama with the Texas Air National Guard."
Records of Bush's Ala. Military Duty Can't Be Found via the Washington Post

"Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period or report."
2003-01-23 12:23:16 AM  
Sweater Girl

I didn't say it was the same exact situation, but it can still come and bite us in the ass can it not? We are still keeping people who aren't terribly admirable in power, they can still do shiatty stuff to their own people and others from that position, and it's bringing a lot of the Arabic world's ire down upon on. Last I checked the #1 cause of Bin-Laden was getting us out of Saudi Arabia.
2003-01-23 12:23:17 AM  
The irony of the Clinton investigation is that every President, save two, got 'taken care of' by his aides.
The tragedy of that investigation is that Clinton lost all credence with me when he failed to refuse to answer the question, and take his contempt of court like a man.

The Virginia Military Acadamy handbook, under codes of conduct, states that a gentleman can never speak in a casual manner of a lady. The Pres is, you know, the Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces. He should have refused to answer, like a President, rather than try to weasel his way out, like the lawyer he is.
2003-01-23 12:23:27 AM  

well, one troll deserves another.
2003-01-23 12:26:09 AM  
Sorry.. Must of missed something in the last post. We need a preview button...

The Washinton Post Link.
2003-01-23 12:27:01 AM  
But I'll go one better.

Is there any real evidence that Saddam has EVER committed a hostile act towards the USA ? not threats, like a dozen other countries have given us, but an actual ACT ?

anything ? tell me again why this guy is that much of a problem ?
2003-01-23 12:27:43 AM  
Thray the question you ask is very relevant. However, the question that was asked of Clinton is also relevant. Does he have a sexual history with his subordinates? All he had to do here was answer "yes, it was consentu...concentu...concen....ok with her." (how the he11 doe you spell that?)
2003-01-23 12:27:57 AM  
Uh . . maybe three, including Bush Sr.
2003-01-23 12:28:48 AM  
I still don't know why there is a pervasive threadjack about Bush's military service, except for an inability to discuss the real issue and an attempted attack on an extraneous one, but...

"For a full year, there is no record that he showed up for the periodic drills required of part-time guardsmen."

Sure, and the reader should just assume that there is a record that shows that every other member did...

Don't buy that junk, Rockdrummer
2003-01-23 12:32:29 AM  

Let me clear up that once the question was asked, he should not have lied, but I don't think the question ever deserved to be asked in the first place, I think it was just dirty smear politics that had no place in a court room. Consensual affairs have nothing to do with sexual harrassment, this 'definition of character' shiat is legal fallicy. FYI I would not be after anyone's head if a case about sexual harrassment was brought against them and rumors or confirmation of a separate, consensual affair circulated. I'd think they were a jackass for having an affair, but unless you've got non-consensual it simply has no point being brought up in the court.
2003-01-23 12:32:45 AM  
how the he11 do I spell 'do', for that matter.
2003-01-23 12:32:46 AM  

that was hilarious - the Prez="getmydicksucked"
2003-01-23 12:33:19 AM  
2003-01-23 12:35:13 AM  
Nanookanano just made me think of WH Taft with his 'aides'. grrrr.
2003-01-23 12:36:10 AM  
Uh . . maybe three, including Bush Sr.

No.. Bush Sr. got some also. Just do a search on Jennifer Fitzgerald.
2003-01-23 12:37:27 AM  
2003-01-23 12:38:27 AM  
Yeah, even that huge tub of lard, Taft.
2003-01-23 12:38:29 AM  
I would be WH Harrison never got a hummer in office.
2003-01-23 12:39:10 AM  
The contempt Americans have for their recent leaders based purely on political lines is so completely rediculous when viewed from outside. Roughly half of the US consider Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter and John F. Kennedy to be the worst leaders in our nations history and the other half would rather pump gas themselves than have a gas station attendant who looked like GW Bush or Reagan do it for them.

I do realize there are a good many Americans who have woken up to the fact that party politics is a diversion, but they aren't the vocal ones, I'm afraid.
2003-01-23 12:39:29 AM  
Nanookanano you missed my point. it wasn't whether or not you were right; it was the mental image. uggghh.
2003-01-23 12:40:36 AM  

Taft, you old dog
2003-01-23 12:41:46 AM  
Come on, if you were a big tub of lard who never gets any and you became President, wtf would you do?
2003-01-23 12:41:50 AM  
This is the most powerful office in the world.
It is one of the most demanding and stressful positions possible.
This person has his finger on the button.

Shouldn't we provide the holder of the office the very best care.
Shouldn't we all stand behind the one the majority of us picked?
Shouldn't we turn a bit of a blind eye if he gets a little love-medicine to help him relax and think straight?

Sexually frustrated puritans give me a pain.
God invented sex. Get over it.
2003-01-23 12:41:59 AM  
Ahh Thray I hear ya. Sorry, misunderstood your post.

As for the Clinton thing, it was shameful and a huge waste of money. Big ol' witchhunt.
However, for the most powerful man in the world, he sure was stupid in regards to that situation.
Had he fessed up, it certainly would not have evolved into such a big issue. As a matter of fact, those who made it as big as they did would have been seen as petty and been shushed.
But noooooooooooooooooo
2003-01-23 12:43:19 AM  

Well, call me crazy, but when someone is on trial for rewarding or punishing a subordinate career-wise based upon the performance of sexual services, which is not legal, I think it's a fair question to ask if that person is having sexual relations with a subordinate.

Wasn't Monica offered some high-paying job by Clinton's friend at Revlon for which she was not qualified?

Investigating a crime is not "smear tactics." He did commit a crime, perjury, and deserved the impeachment. (I'm not saying he deserved to lose the presidency for this, but did deserve the impeachment.) The fact that he dragged it out for so long and for so much money makes him an asshat in my book.
2003-01-23 12:44:13 AM  
SpaceCoyote very good point. there was an article the other day (that I tried to post but got rejected) that pointed out many of the things that republicans would support if it hadn't been Clinton and things that dems would support if it hadn't been Bush. (one line from the author, an avowed liberal, "if Hillary was Prez, we'd all be supporting the attack of Iraq").
I'll try to find a link but it's late and I'm
2003-01-23 12:45:07 AM  
Sweater Girl

Yeah he was damn immature about it when he was called on it, and we all paid for that because he was our President. Certainly stupid, but I think the larger issue is #2 almost all these men have affairs :P but #1 the dirty politics is way out of hand. Both ways.
2003-01-23 12:47:51 AM  

Yeah, that is very true. Unfortunately, both political parties spend more energy trying to thwart the other's progress than to accomplish general good in this country.
2003-01-23 12:48:19 AM  
Nanookanano The problem i have is that the standard is not defined. The President is supposed to be commander-in-chief of the military. What Clinton did would have been a court-martialable offense for anyone in the military---except him!! I would like that inconsistency cleared up. I don't particularly care which way just make it consistent.
2003-01-23 12:53:00 AM  
Thray when did I miss out on the "all men have affairs" memo.
2003-01-23 12:53:43 AM  
Thray oops. i see the "almost". but still, why wasn't I told.
2003-01-23 12:54:04 AM  
What Clinton did would have been a court-martialable offense for anyone in the military---except him!!

What about Dubya's year AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard during a time of war?
2003-01-23 12:54:11 AM  
"Nobody wants to get on Trent Lott."
-- Chris Rock
2003-01-23 12:54:18 AM  
His perjury would be a court martial offence.
That is why he should have refused to respond.
"That is a private matter between me, my wife and my Pastor." would have satisfied me.
2003-01-23 12:55:51 AM  

You should be president.
2003-01-23 12:56:01 AM  
"First, Bush's longtime companion and powerful staff member, Jennifer Fitzgerald, had to be removed from the White House and Bush's sexual indiscretions had to be covered up, if he ever hoped to be President."

He was banging: [image from too old to be available]

Bush #1 gettin' some!! (nsfw-barely)
2003-01-23 12:56:28 AM  
Something I'd like explained by the 9/11 commission:

How Mohammed Atta's passport could have been found and identified as belonging to one of the hijackers within hours, but the sender of anthrax-laden letters and the person(s) who put down a shiatload of bets that United Airlines and American Airlines stock would fall remain unknown. You figure that second, at least, would have a fairly easy paper-trail to follow.
2003-01-23 12:56:40 AM  
PlatinumDragon geez, please look at at least a couple post before you proclaim your ignorance.
2003-01-23 12:56:46 AM  
As a citizen of NYC, I am pissed off and offended by how dubya has handled 9/11. The taliban are making a comeback in Afghanistan, the area has not been stabilized, and instead our leader picks on a different bully rather than do the hard work of helping a third world country get democracy and running water (not that the international community has done much either).

and for someone who had no problem avoiding his military duty, he seems awful eager to send you and yours just to avenge his daddy.

and how about getting new york the rest of the farking aid you promised us, you bastard, instead od pissing on the memory of 3000 people by throwing $3 million in the wind?

what are you afraid of bushie? that a 9/11 probe would turn up all the oil/blood money that you, cheney and your daddy have pumped into the middle east?

(ok, i'm done, grrrrr.)
2003-01-23 12:57:10 AM  
Any bets on how long until someone posts the "presidential IQ's" table as if it were a fact?
2003-01-23 12:57:47 AM  
Oh, and Monica is a fairly attractive woman.
And, she attended the President because she was attracted to a man of power and personality. She did what she did because she wanted to.
Notice that the woman who convinced her to cry "sexual harassment" truely has a face that can spook horses.
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