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(Cincinnati Enquirer)   Showing support for the police? That will be a $100 fine   (news.cincinnati.com) divider line 89
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2009-01-13 02:11:14 PM
FTA: Lockland's law, however, expressly forbids it: "No person who is not entitled to do so shall knowingly display on a motor vehicle the emblem of a law enforcement agency or an organization of law enforcement officers."

I really see no problem with this...

Though I do think the FOP stickers on the cars of the police officers and their families is kind of wrong. The only reason for it is to keep police officers from pulling over other police officers and it lets the cops get away with breaking the law when they are off duty.
 
2009-01-13 02:15:24 PM
Ryan2065: FTA: Lockland's law, however, expressly forbids it: "No person who is not entitled to do so shall knowingly display on a motor vehicle the emblem of a law enforcement agency or an organization of law enforcement officers."

I really see no problem with this...

Though I do think the FOP stickers on the cars of the police officers and their families is kind of wrong. The only reason for it is to keep police officers from pulling over other police officers and it lets the cops get away with breaking the law when they are off duty.


But considering everyone can get one, does it really even help? Anytime I see an FOP sticker, I assume its some idiot who thinks its a "don't pull me over" sign.
 
2009-01-13 02:17:48 PM
downstairs: But considering everyone can get one, does it really even help? Anytime I see an FOP sticker, I assume its some idiot who thinks its a "don't pull me over" sign.

In most areas the FOP stickers are illegal to have on your car if you or a member of your family is not a police officer. I know my Dad told me that was the case in Chicago. He was a member of the FOP only because they gave him the stickers and he loved the little yearly planner they had.
 
2009-01-13 02:29:48 PM
He said the Lockland officer, who was not named in the lawsuit, stopped Singh solely because of the sticker. He received no other citation.

The guy's name is "Jasbir Singh", so his real offense was DWB - "Driving While Brown".

3Horn
 
2009-01-13 02:56:35 PM
3horn: He said the Lockland officer, who was not named in the lawsuit, stopped Singh solely because of the sticker. He received no other citation.

The guy's name is "Jasbir Singh", so his real offense was DWB - "Driving While Brown".

3Horn


Lucky they didn't shoot him for that, seeing as it was Cincinnati.
 
2009-01-13 02:56:57 PM
Typically, you get a sticker if you donate money. I have one on my car, but it's from 2006, as I moved away from Memphis.

And no, it has never stopped me from getting pulled over.

Has gotten me a warning or two however.
 
2009-01-13 02:57:50 PM
Dude, take the hint. They don't want your support. It's a war out there.
 
2009-01-13 02:58:24 PM
Damn, the perfect racket; sell these stickers to suckas at $5 a pop, and then fine them $100 for putting them on their car.
 
2009-01-13 02:59:03 PM
hobnail: Lucky they didn't shoot him for that, seeing as it was Cincinnati.

Nah, I'm sure he's far too light-skinned for that.

Everyone knows cops are trained very intensively to only shoot at blacks.
 
2009-01-13 02:59:04 PM
FTFA: "Variations of that law are fairly common in the U.S., said Kathy Harrell, president of Cincinnati's Fraternal Order of Police. The purpose is to prevent people from impersonating law-enforcement officers anybody except police and local government officials from ignoring the speed limits."

Fixed.
 
2009-01-13 03:00:05 PM
CruJones: Typically, you get a sticker if you donate money.

I think in CT, if you donate enough, you get a little badge-like thing to stick on your car.

/iirc
 
2009-01-13 03:00:27 PM
1) Stupid law. Nobody is confusing a FOP sticker with large insignia proclaiming the vehicle to be a police cruiser.

2) The driver in question is likely pissed that the sticker turned out NOT to be a "get out of ticket free" sign.
 
2009-01-13 03:01:09 PM
and, maybe, to elicit some sympathy if they get pulled over for speeding


That's the reason people put such stickers on their cars.

Doesn't make it necessarily illegal but pandering it is.
 
2009-01-13 03:01:42 PM
Ryan2065: Though I do think the FOP stickers on the cars of the police officers and their families is kind of wrong. The only reason for it is to keep police officers from pulling over other police officers and it lets the cops get away with breaking the law when they are off duty.

THIS. And if we're a nation of laws, and we have cops to enforce them, you should not be above them if you're charged with enforcing them. If anything, you should be held to a higher standard. That goes double-plus-good for politicians...

/speeds
//a lot
 
2009-01-13 03:01:46 PM
Ryan2065: FTA: Lockland's law, however, expressly forbids it: "No person who is not entitled to do so shall knowingly display on a motor vehicle the emblem of a law enforcement agency or an organization of law enforcement officers."

I really see no problem with this...

Though I do think the FOP stickers on the cars of the police officers and their families is kind of wrong. The only reason for it is to keep police officers from pulling over other police officers and it lets the cops get away with breaking the law when they are off duty.


Right. Which is why I'm all for everyone having them, or nobody. No special treatment for anyone. A buddy of mine had one of those when we were in high school, along with some kind of badge. It wasn't a police badge, but it was something he had because his dad was a volunteer or supporter or something along those lines. So, I'm in the front seat while my friend is driving, going 95 on the freeway, blowing by everybody. A cop pulls him over, and my friend hands him his license along with that badge thing. The cop said thanks, and to please drive more carefully, and sent us on our way. Farking lame.
 
2009-01-13 03:02:05 PM
downstairs: But considering everyone can get one, does it really even help? Anytime I see an FOP sticker, I assume its some idiot who thinks its a "don't pull me over" sign.

"Idiot"? Putting a simple sticker on your car which may very well get you out of a $100-300 ticket makes a person an "idiot"? Isn't that a little strong?

I have one on my car, and, while I can't be absolutely sure, it's highly likely that it saved me at least once or twice, based upon what transpired.
 
2009-01-13 03:02:47 PM
homepage.mac.com

My bumper sticker in support of law enforcement.
 
2009-01-13 03:03:24 PM
farkuufarkinfark: And if we're a nation of laws, and we have cops to enforce them, you should not be above them if you're charged with enforcing them. If anything, you should be held to a higher standard. That goes double-plus-good for politicians...

How is communism working out for you?

/ I keed
 
2009-01-13 03:03:39 PM
Its pretty funny that a police supporter gets railed by the police.
/ all police should be disbanded
// need more civil officers with no guns, or tasers
\\\maybe some pepperspray
 
2009-01-13 03:05:27 PM
If the driver was driving a Clown Vic at the time then his intent was pretty obvious.

But the local law is still in violation of the first Amendment. Or can any law be passed, even if it does go against the constitution?
 
2009-01-13 03:06:12 PM
plumbari: / all police should be disbanded
// need more civil officers with no guns, or tasers
\\\maybe some pepperspray


...with one alteration. Two nozzles. One points forward as a jet, the other backwards as a fine mist. Pepper spray somebody, and you pepper spray yourself too. Then, you can be damned sure the spray won't be used unless absolutely necessary.
 
2009-01-13 03:06:41 PM
Everyone in Georgia knows about the black bar blue bar black bar sticker that everone seems to have these days. I've been told that they let the cops know that you are armed, or it lets them know that you are family to policy, or something. My cop friend calls then the "instantly have a gun drawn on you" sticker. I don't have one.
 
2009-01-13 03:08:53 PM
Cops are the dumbest dicks in the workforce. They also wear uniforms at walmart.
 
2009-01-13 03:09:03 PM
It's called the 'Boot-Licker Law'. Police already get boot licking on a daily basis. Unsolicited, and you get a ticket, matching bracelets, or a tazerin.
 
2009-01-13 03:09:22 PM
plumbari: / all police should be disbanded
// need more civil officers with no guns, or tasers


Wow, you're an idiot.
 
2009-01-13 03:09:50 PM
RoxtarRyan: CruJones: Typically, you get a sticker if you donate money.

I think in CT, if you donate enough, you get a little badge-like thing to stick on your car.

/iirc


i remember something similar when i lived in KY. most folks had them jammed into their license plate frames to cover the expiration tags.

/farked up? definitely
//does it make me want one any less? fark no.
 
2009-01-13 03:10:40 PM
gweilo8888: plumbari: / all police should be disbanded
// need more civil officers with no guns, or tasers
\\\maybe some pepperspray

...with one alteration. Two nozzles. One points forward as a jet, the other backwards as a fine mist. Pepper spray somebody, and you pepper spray yourself too. Then, you can be damned sure the spray won't be used unless absolutely necessary.


and a video camera on there lapels they can't access
 
2009-01-13 03:11:45 PM
Bob Ondeeznuts: plumbari: / all police should be disbanded
// need more civil officers with no guns, or tasers

Wow, you're an idiot.


no I really just hate the police my dad is one and so is my brother both farking nuts, especially my brother I advise you to never get pulled over in CO. It might be one of them
 
2009-01-13 03:12:53 PM
The police union is fairly useless anyway. I never joined it with my time in. I mean, what's the unions main... No, wait, I mean SOLE weapon to negotiate with? Strikes. Striking is about the only way to make people you work for understand how serious you are.

Police, firefighters, and EMT's can't strike. Not allowed, for obvious public safety reasons. Look how pathetic the teachers unions have become in Michigan since they lost their right to strike. They're pay has almost halved.

The FOP's only real point is to supply legal help and support where needed. The department supplies lawyers for defense against lawsuits against the public, and most lawyers would jump at an opportunity to sue the police department for wrongful discharge if it was warranted. So yeah... Kinda useless for anything but a clubhouse and a couple fancy dinners a year.

I can find my own excuses to get drunk, thank you.
 
2009-01-13 03:13:25 PM
I remeber back in the 1970s Johnson Smith catalogue they had the most ridiculous bumperstickers: P.I.G., with a pic of a cartoon pig wearing a police uniform stating Pride Integrity and Guts.
 
2009-01-13 03:13:36 PM
plumbari: no I really just hate the police my dad is one and so is my brother both farking nuts, especially my brother I advise you to never get pulled over in CO. It might be one of them

Wow, you really are an idiot.
 
2009-01-13 03:16:18 PM
Everyone has failed to make an effective yet restrained police force, but all I need is an internet connection and a dash of hubris to set things right.
 
2009-01-13 03:16:43 PM
img.villagephotos.com

/Wanted for questioning.
 
2009-01-13 03:16:54 PM
It's like a slave with a "I lubz massa" sticker.

They'll fondle your daughter and shoot the family dog on the side of the highway, and if you DARE get uppity, you'll take a bullet to the chest.

We're a joke to them, and it's just double LOL time if they see your sticker.
 
2009-01-13 03:17:19 PM
I used to work for the FOP. In Florida, they give stickers to the people who donate to the fundraisers. There was a sticker with "member" on it and one without. There was also one that had a gold star instead of a blue one. I couldn't tell you what the significance was, but I had one of them myself.

/Didn't make a damn bit of difference when I was pulled over.
//Lead foot, ball-bearing ankle.
 
2009-01-13 03:17:26 PM
FTFA:
Singh said his sticker...does not claim he is a member of the union.

Cops are douchebags.
I've got a buddy who sells the black license plates with the blue stripe. Soon we'll all have one and the cops douchebags won't know one from the other.
 
2009-01-13 03:20:38 PM
kumanoki: Everyone in Georgia knows about the black bar blue bar black bar sticker that everone seems to have these days. I've been told that they let the cops know that you are armed, or it lets them know that you are family to policy, or something. My cop friend calls then the "instantly have a gun drawn on you" sticker. I don't have one.

funny, my dad told me it was the insignia for one of the Army divisions stationed at Fort Benning. could be he's wrong, but given that he was shipped through there on his way to the first Gulf War, and that my uncle was in Georgia law enforcement for a little over a decade(went from Columbus PD to GBI to, of all things, a baptist minister) and would probably have given him one of the things if what you're saying's true, i'm not betting on it.

now, seeing as you're dealing with either local Infantry, Ranger, or Airborne boys or their families/friends driving these cars, i would not in any way discount the possibility that that sticker's a strong indication of an armed driver. however, i've never heard anything to indicate it involves the police in any way.
 
2009-01-13 03:21:38 PM
This guy most likely got the ticket on the part of I-75 that runs through Lockland. The kicker is this: he lives in West Chester which is a different city (township) in a different county as Lockland - therefore his car would not be registered within the jurisdiction of this law.

This would be the same as getting a ticket for not having a front license plate when driving through a "front license plate required" state even though your car is registered in a state that doesn't require it.
 
2009-01-13 03:22:00 PM
Worked as a telemarketer for the FOP in high school. Everyone who donated got one of those stickers - which would only confuse an inbred, retarded illiterate into thinking they were a cop.

If you have hatred of telemarketers, I understand - write down exactly what you want to say, fold it up neatly, and stick it up your ass.
 
2009-01-13 03:22:06 PM
HotWingConspiracy: It's like a slave with a "I lubz massa" sticker.

They'll fondle your daughter and shoot the family dog on the side of the highway, and if you DARE get uppity, you'll take a bullet to the chest.

We're a joke to them, and it's just double LOL time if they see your sticker.


img.photobucket.com

The Gap Troll sees what you did there...
 
2009-01-13 03:22:07 PM
A typical "end of the month, short on quota" ticket. They made license plate frames and trailer hitch balls that stick up in front of the rear license plate illegal in Texas. You'll only get ticketed when it's late in the month and the officer is behind on his quota. I'm sure other cities and states have these types of laws.
 
2009-01-13 03:22:25 PM
Is this the daily police bashing thread?
 
2009-01-13 03:23:09 PM
downstairs: Ryan2065: FTA: Lockland's law, however, expressly forbids it: "No person who is not entitled to do so shall knowingly display on a motor vehicle the emblem of a law enforcement agency or an organization of law enforcement officers."

I really see no problem with this...

Though I do think the FOP stickers on the cars of the police officers and their families is kind of wrong. The only reason for it is to keep police officers from pulling over other police officers and it lets the cops get away with breaking the law when they are off duty.

But considering everyone can get one, does it really even help? Anytime I see an FOP sticker, I assume its some idiot who thinks its a "don't pull me over" sign.


I live in Philly, and we had a span of a couple of months where several police officers were murdered. As a show of support numerous people placed signs in their car that said, "I proudly support the Philadelphia Police". I had one in my car, got pulled over and just got a warning. Not sure if that helped, but that wasn't the reason I had one in my car...don't be so skeptical, man
 
2009-01-13 03:23:32 PM
gweilo8888: plumbari: / all police should be disbanded
// need more civil officers with no guns, or tasers
\\\maybe some pepperspray

...with one alteration. Two nozzles. One points forward as a jet, the other backwards as a fine mist. Pepper spray somebody, and you pepper spray yourself too. Then, you can be damned sure the spray won't be used unless absolutely necessary.


That is a terrible idea.
 
2009-01-13 03:23:45 PM
Hm, while it may not be true, the article contains the claim that Singh was pulled over because of the sticker. I don't see how the officer could possibly have any probable cause here, esp if he didn't cover his ass and Singh wasn't cited for any other violations.

This law seems really messed up. I can understand the prohibition against displaying law enforcement agency emblems without cause (though I would limit such emblems to on duty actions mostly in any case), but organizations those officers can to join for shiats and giggles? No thanks.
 
2009-01-13 03:23:55 PM
Pair-o-Dice: Cops are douchebags.
I've got a buddy who sells the black license plates with the blue stripe. Soon we'll all have one and the cops douchebags won't know one from the other.


You may want to inform him that if he gets caught, it's a felony. Falsifying license plates isn't exactly something light.
 
2009-01-13 03:24:02 PM
Suing for the right to kiss ass?
 
2009-01-13 03:24:06 PM
CruJones: Typically, you get a sticker if you donate money. I have one on my car, but it's from 2006, as I moved away from Memphis.

And no, it has never stopped me from getting pulled over.


How would you know, exactly?
 
2009-01-13 03:24:36 PM
This is why I have local fire station stickers on my vehicles. It is not illegal and typically police don't fark with firemen. I got pulled over for speeding by an officer that was an ex-fireman. He asked me if I was a fireman. I said I wasn't but that I donated to the fallen firemen fund and that they gave me a sticker. It got me out of a $150 ticket.
 
2009-01-13 03:25:57 PM
Well then...fark tha police!
 
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