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2009-01-12 11:01:24 AM
When I'm a homeowner, I want a landline and at least one corded phone, because in the event a hurricane knocks out power I want to rely upon something other than my battery for communication.
 
2009-01-12 11:03:04 AM
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2009-01-12 11:03:58 AM
UNC_Samurai: When I'm a homeowner, I want a landline and at least one corded phone, because in the event a hurricane knocks out power I want to rely upon something other than my battery for communication.

You have a car charger, right? Why not use that?
 
2009-01-12 11:20:13 AM
Last time I had a land line was about 10 years ago & it was only because I had dial-up internet at the time.
 
2009-01-12 11:36:20 AM
The Icelander: UNC_Samurai: When I'm a homeowner, I want a landline and at least one corded phone, because in the event a hurricane knocks out power I want to rely upon something other than my battery for communication.

You have a car charger, right? Why not use that?


Convenience, one would assume.

Seems like technology is loosing sight of why it exists.
 
2009-01-12 11:41:16 AM
No YOU'RE a Towel: Convenience, one would assume.

Seems like technology is loosing sight of why it exists.


Well, I think "convenience" goes out the window in a hurricane. Heck, they've even got solar powered cell phone chargers these days for around $100.
 
2009-01-12 11:48:20 AM
The Icelander: No YOU'RE a Towel: Convenience, one would assume.

Seems like technology is loosing sight of why it exists.

Well, I think "convenience" goes out the window in a hurricane. Heck, they've even got solar powered cell phone chargers these days for around $100.


Sure, but there are plenty of situations where I would not want to go out to the car to charge my phone. January, for instance.
 
2009-01-12 11:54:41 AM
No YOU'RE a Towel: Sure, but there are plenty of situations where I would not want to go out to the car to charge my phone. January, for instance.

1) Put on coat
2) Go out to car
3) Plug in phone
4) Go back inside
 
2009-01-12 12:18:32 PM
I like my landline. I give it to people whom I will want messages from but still maintain the option to call back at my convenience.

Certain kinds of people have a sense of entitlement when they have your cell phone number. They think, "Why isn't he answering his phone? He must be ignoring me." Then they go on to call every 10 minutes, or in the case of a woman every 2 minutes until your battery dies.

That's why my voice mail announcement says, "If you don't leave a message I'm probably not going to call you back."
 
2009-01-12 12:18:44 PM
We haven't had a landline for years. We even have a solar charger in case the power is out for a week and both of our cars are out of gas. But I think if the sun is blocked from a super volcano erruption we're screwed.
 
2009-01-12 12:19:36 PM
Oh. Take one of those r's out of eruption. kthnks.
 
2009-01-12 12:28:18 PM
Quick, get the scales and the duck.
 
2009-01-12 12:29:08 PM
UNC_Samurai: When I'm a homeowner, I want a landline and at least one corded phone, because in the event a hurricane knocks out power I want to rely upon something other than my battery for communication.

funny when my parents got hit by the hurricane their land line didn't work for two weeks, but their cell phone did.
 
2009-01-12 12:30:25 PM
abandone? is that like, when you've finished abandoning something?
 
2009-01-12 12:31:03 PM
UNC_Samurai: When I'm a homeowner, I want a landline and at least one corded phone, because in the event a hurricane knocks out power I want to rely upon something other than my battery for communication.

I'm pretty sure that if power is knocked out in your area, which I imagine would include your local cell tower, your cell phone won't work.
 
2009-01-12 12:31:15 PM
I haven't had a landline in years, but recently had one installed for my home based business. It was an 800 number with a local # connected. Literally 5 minutes after installing the unit, the Odessa Sherrifs Association called to ask for a donation. He even had my name correct.
 
2009-01-12 12:31:18 PM
Ric Romero picture in 3, 2, 1...
 
2009-01-12 12:31:20 PM
I only have a landline, I like being not able to be reached when I'm out.
 
2009-01-12 12:32:26 PM
I like my land line. I like not having a cell phone. If I'm out and about, I don't wanna talk to people.

/hates talking on the phone!
//why would I want to do it 24/7?
 
2009-01-12 12:32:41 PM
The Icelander: No YOU'RE a Towel: Sure, but there are plenty of situations where I would not want to go out to the car to charge my phone. January, for instance.

1) Put on coat
2) Go out to car
3) Plug in phone
4) Go back inside


5) Forget phone is in plugged in car.
6) Parent suddenly have heart attack.
7) Put on coat.
8) Go out to car.
9) Put key in ignition.
10) Car does not start.
11) Parent dies.

And all because you went out in a hurricane in January to charge your frickin' phone.
 
2009-01-12 12:33:05 PM
This is how it went down Link (new window)
 
2009-01-12 12:33:13 PM
jaylectricity: I like my landline. I give it to people whom I will want messages from but still maintain the option to call back at my convenience.

Certain kinds of people have a sense of entitlement when they have your cell phone number. They think, "Why isn't he answering his phone? He must be ignoring me." Then they go on to call every 10 minutes, or in the case of a woman every 2 minutes until your battery dies.

That's why my voice mail announcement says, "If you don't leave a message I'm probably not going to call you back."


You sound like a really cool guy. Also, when you take your "females calling you every 2 minutes" problem in the context of your love for adolescent looking girls that is reflected in your profile, maybe it begins to make a little more sense
 
2009-01-12 12:33:47 PM
What is the final cost of having a landline after fees, taxes etc?

I could never see spending more than $1 a month for a landline, it just doesn't have any purpose for me anymore.
 
2009-01-12 12:33:57 PM
And if the kids run into trouble on the way home, they can call for help -- something Raaen says they couldn't with landline only service.

That's because before cel phones, they took days to recoil that 87 mile telephone cord.
 
2009-01-12 12:34:57 PM
actually cell phones held up pretty good during the florida hurricanes.

not so the land lines.
 
2009-01-12 12:35:41 PM
UNC_Samurai: When I'm a homeowner, I want a landline and at least one corded phone, because in the event a hurricane knocks out power I want to rely upon something other than my battery for communication.

You do realize that the landlines are strung on the same poles as the power lines right? So when the powerline gets blown down, so does the phone line.

A much better bet is to get one of these. I live up in Michigan and in a typical winter we'll lose power at least twice, normally for a couple days, due to ice storms or snow storms taking down lines. That bad boy keeps the fridge working, the microwave, etc. If you're worried about power outages due to line failure, that is the way to go.

Also when the lines go down around here my cellphone still works. The cell towers typically have backup generators in them and they're one of the first things the power company gets working again. I've never lost celluar signal. Verizon has shut down their wireless and stuff to reduce power requirements for the cell tower when it was running generator only, never turned off the voice network on me.
 
2009-01-12 12:35:42 PM
They actually have reliable service in Sioux Falls.

Out in the boonies west river, not so much.

/still using telegraph in Harding County
 
2009-01-12 12:35:48 PM
I love these threads. It's always the same people preaching about how they got rid of their landline 20 years ago and how it has changed their lives entirely. They can now fly and have babies which can crush cans with a single clenching of the fist.
 
vid
2009-01-12 12:37:02 PM
From the article:

"According to a report by the National Center For Health Statistics, one in every six Americans no longer has a landline phone and relies exclusively on a cell phone."

They just mention the one family in particular to kick the article off by putting a human face on the trend, something news stories do all the time with this sort of thing.
 
2009-01-12 12:37:31 PM
tothekor: The Icelander: No YOU'RE a Towel: Sure, but there are plenty of situations where I would not want to go out to the car to charge my phone. January, for instance.

1) Put on coat
2) Go out to car
3) Plug in phone
4) Go back inside

5) Forget phone is in plugged in car.
6) Parent suddenly have heart attack.
7) Put on coat.
8) Go out to car.
9) Put key in ignition.
10) Car does not start.
11) Parent dies.

And all because you went out in a hurricane in January to charge your frickin' phone.


yeah, gotta watch out for those January hurricanes.
 
2009-01-12 12:37:31 PM
oldass31
UNC_Samurai: When I'm a homeowner, I want a landline and at least one corded phone, because in the event a hurricane knocks out power I want to rely upon something other than my battery for communication.

I'm pretty sure that if power is knocked out in your area, which I imagine would include your local cell tower, your cell phone won't work.

Its called back up generators, which they usually have to have so Emergency services can have functions Cells. And with respect to landlines, I will admit they are nice during Hurricanes, but I like to think of them as vacations, since they drive out all the tourist.

/Have lived in wilmington, nc for whole life, till college.
//That means many, many hurricanes.
 
2009-01-12 12:37:39 PM
It's a lot easier to lose a cell phone or have it stolen than it is a land line.
 
2009-01-12 12:38:15 PM
I ditched my landline and cell phones years ago - got a pair of flags, learned semaphore and never looked back. Don't need a solar charger OR power lines - if a hurricane hits, you'd better believe my flapping arms will still work while you try and find a good cell signal that will never come!
 
2009-01-12 12:40:54 PM
It seems some are missing the point on land lines in hurricane prone areas. It doesn't matter if your cell phone is charged if the towers have no power.

Most of the area south and east of Houston was out of power in Ike for weeks. Many of the generators that the cell phone companies had to keep their towers operating flooded out in the storm surge, so the cell phone system went down over the entire area. Those that had generators mounted high enough ran out of fuel in less than 36 hours.

It was over a month before cell phones were useable again in many areas. There are still some areas with no cell phone coverage.

Meanwhile, the old fashioned land line phone system which was built robustly worked without interruption in most of the area. Yes, there are a few gaps in the land line phone coverage area where the system was destroyed, but the cell phone coverage is only now (4 months after Hurricane Ike) approaching the coverage that the land line system had in service throughout the storm.
 
2009-01-12 12:41:06 PM
One is that landlines are the most reliable connection to 911 service, and make it easier for emergency crews to locate people.


Last I checked you don't have to pay for service in order to call 911. Just leave a phone connected to the phone jack just in case.

Then again they can always check the phone's GPS to see where you are, if your phone is able to get a lock on the satellites.
 
2009-01-12 12:41:53 PM
Watch for my report on these new fangled mobile phones next week on KABC 7 Los Angeles.
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2009-01-12 12:41:59 PM
No YOU'RE a Towel: Sure, but there are plenty of situations where I would not want to go out to the car to charge my phone. January, for instance.

You would only use the car charger when your power was out.

However, when the power is out the cell stations run on generators (there's one near my house, I can hear the generate start up when our power flickers). Once the generator runs out of gas, you're off line. It happened in Seattle during the week long windstorm power outage a few years ago.
 
2009-01-12 12:42:02 PM
New Moon Rabbit: I like my land line. I like not having a cell phone. If I'm out and about, I don't wanna talk to people.

/hates talking on the phone!
//why would I want to do it 24/7?


I know. Every time my cell phone rings I have to answer it or people will die.
 
db2
2009-01-12 12:42:33 PM
Raaen disconnected her landline service a year and a half ago, as a result she saves about $240 dollars a year.

Really? She saves 240 dollars dollars?
 
2009-01-12 12:43:03 PM
ha-ha-guy: UNC_Samurai: When I'm a homeowner, I want a landline and at least one corded phone, because in the event a hurricane knocks out power I want to rely upon something other than my battery for communication.

You do realize that the landlines are strung on the same poles as the power lines right? So when the powerline gets blown down, so does the phone line.

A much better bet is to get one of these. I live up in Michigan and in a typical winter we'll lose power at least twice, normally for a couple days, due to ice storms or snow storms taking down lines. That bad boy keeps the fridge working, the microwave, etc. If you're worried about power outages due to line failure, that is the way to go.

Also when the lines go down around here my cellphone still works. The cell towers typically have backup generators in them and they're one of the first things the power company gets working again. I've never lost celluar signal. Verizon has shut down their wireless and stuff to reduce power requirements for the cell tower when it was running generator only, never turned off the voice network on me.


Huh. They must have put those generators in after the infamous North Eastern blackout. I remember laughing at the news report showing frustrated New Yorkers desperately trying to call their loved ones during the multiple state-wide blackout.

/Not that I find that kind of thing funny...
 
2009-01-12 12:43:57 PM
tothekor: The Icelander: No YOU'RE a Towel: Sure, but there are plenty of situations where I would not want to go out to the car to charge my phone. January, for instance.

1) Put on coat
2) Go out to car
3) Plug in phone
4) Go back inside

5) Forget phone is in plugged in car.
6) Parent suddenly have heart attack.
7) Put on coat.
8) Go out to car.
9) Put key in ignition.
10) Car does not start.
11) Parent dies.

And all because you went out in a hurricane in January to charge your frickin' phone.


You also have to consider the "alien attack in June" scenario.
 
2009-01-12 12:45:17 PM
db2: Raaen disconnected her landline service a year and a half ago, as a result she saves about $240 dollars a year.

Really? She saves 240 dollars dollars?


By the time you are done with fees, taxes, long distance provider they just love to tell you they require and the actual cost of the line.

I figure all that has to add up to about 15-20 bucks a month
 
2009-01-12 12:46:07 PM
oldass31: tothekor: The Icelander: No YOU'RE a Towel: Sure, but there are plenty of situations where I would not want to go out to the car to charge my phone. January, for instance.

1) Put on coat
2) Go out to car
3) Plug in phone
4) Go back inside

5) Forget phone is in plugged in car.
6) Parent suddenly have heart attack.
7) Put on coat.
8) Go out to car.
9) Put key in ignition.
10) Car does not start.
11) Parent dies.

And all because you went out in a hurricane in January to charge your frickin' phone.

yeah, gotta watch out for those January hurricanes.


Especially when your parents live 2000 miles away. That's a long haul when your parent has a heart attack. Best make sure you keep that car ready to go.
 
2009-01-12 12:46:52 PM
You people who don't like to be contacted when you're out, and want to be able to return calls on your own time... you know, you CAN turn your cell phone off. And you don't pay extra for caller ID, which makes it easier to screen calls. I keep my phone on silent most of the time, unless I'm waiting for a call.

Only down side... people are confused about my area code. Got my phone in Detroit, refused to change my number when I moved. "Where's 248??"

Screw em. It's a new age.
 
2009-01-12 12:47:35 PM
UNC_Samurai: When I'm a homeowner, I want a landline and at least one corded phone, because in the event a hurricane knocks out power I want to rely upon something other than my battery for communication.

when the ice storms hit Oklahoma last December, most places didnt have land lines working for weeks (a month or more I heard in some places), not too hard to plug your phone in to charge in your car, work, starbucks, etc (saw a lot of people charling laptops at public places that week)

/havent had a landline in over 6 years
 
2009-01-12 12:47:36 PM
Is it worth paying $240 a year to have a land line that you only use a half dozen times a year?
 
2009-01-12 12:49:38 PM
willsomebody:
Its called back up generators, which they usually have to have so Emergency services can have functions Cells. And with respect to landlines, I will admit they are nice during Hurricanes, but I like to think of them as vacations, since they drive out all the tourist.


Again, I believe these backup generators for cell towers to be a fairly new thing. There have been plenty of cases, big and small, where a power outage has crippled and disabled cell networks. If there is any policy stating that they have to have a generator, it was probably written due to the North Eastern blackout debacle.
 
2009-01-12 12:51:05 PM
oldass31: ha-ha-guy: UNC_Samurai: When I'm a homeowner, I want a landline and at least one corded phone, because in the event a hurricane knocks out power I want to rely upon something other than my battery for communication.

You do realize that the landlines are strung on the same poles as the power lines right? So when the powerline gets blown down, so does the phone line.

A much better bet is to get one of these. I live up in Michigan and in a typical winter we'll lose power at least twice, normally for a couple days, due to ice storms or snow storms taking down lines. That bad boy keeps the fridge working, the microwave, etc. If you're worried about power outages due to line failure, that is the way to go.

Also when the lines go down around here my cellphone still works. The cell towers typically have backup generators in them and they're one of the first things the power company gets working again. I've never lost celluar signal. Verizon has shut down their wireless and stuff to reduce power requirements for the cell tower when it was running generator only, never turned off the voice network on me.

Huh. They must have put those generators in after the infamous North Eastern blackout. I remember laughing at the news report showing frustrated New Yorkers desperately trying to call their loved ones during the multiple state-wide blackout.

/Not that I find that kind of thing funny...


I'd imagine if the entire grid goes down you're farked. The generators in data centers, etc can only keep the network up for so long. If all the power company has to do is replace a couple of lines they might be able to last that long, but when they need to redo the entire grid everything is done. Also IRC in mass emergencies the cell grid is often set to allow only emergency services to use it, with all bandwidth dedicated to their needs and the civillians get told to go fark themselves.
 
2009-01-12 12:51:07 PM
Came for South Park reference to future people coming here to take our jobs; left disappointed.
 
2009-01-12 12:55:24 PM
Yea, hurricanes are notorious for taking out power lines but leaving all the phone lines intact.

Its science.
 
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