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2009-01-12 11:30:27 AM
reilmb: And what super power will W have as an ex-president?

Everything he touches will turn to shiat.
 
2009-01-12 11:32:14 AM
Phil Herup: He gets it for life, unless he turns it down.

All he has to do is get THAT drunk one night...
 
2009-01-12 11:33:56 AM
Phil Herup: bulldg4life: Any President elected after January 1st, 1997 and his or her spouse only receive federal protection for 10 years. It's a giant liberal conspiracy.


Hmmmm, the more you know.

I think all POTUSs should have lifetime SS protection, with all the shiat we waste $$$ on this should be OK. You make Dubya made a lot of enemies in this job.


Let's see, who do we have alive?

Bush The Elder
Bill Clinton
Jimmy Carter
Bush The Lesser

I'll be willing to bet you whatever you like at even money that the first three there go the rest of their lives without an assault/assassination attempt.

I won't bet on Shrub no matter what kind of odds you lay me.

It's NOT automatic with the job. Bush The Elder isn't loved by many "liberals"... but any you find who wish his death are also likely to wear tinfoil hats and think their cat ordered it.
 
2009-01-12 11:33:57 AM
dokool: I think it's beginning to sink in how exactly history will remember his presidency and he's not very happy about it.

Good. In a term where he allowed us to get attacked, started two wars that were waged half-assed, and watched our economy go tits-up, "Every day was a lot of fun" shows how much he was actually paying attention.
 
2009-01-12 11:50:47 AM
Yeah, Obama seems to have gotten caught up in the machine rather quickly. Pretty sad. We're already well on our way to being an authoritarian state, it will just take the right sort of charismatic Machiavellian douchebag to bring it all together and exercise the oppressive power structure that's already in place.

Note that I do not see Obama as this person, but the next election is in 4 years, lots of things can happen by then. All it's going to take is some farkwad like Blogojevich who will use anything at his disposal to stay in power. Imagine if Blogo had a paramilitary regiment at his command? Scary.

Those walls being built in the Mexican border? To be patrolled by storm troopers Blackwater paramilitary units? Yeah, they can just as easily be used to keep Americans in.
 
2009-01-12 11:52:20 AM
madmann: I'll be willing to bet you whatever you like at even money that the first three there go the rest of their lives without an assault/assassination attempt.

I won't bet on Shrub no matter what kind of odds you lay me.

It's NOT automatic with the job. Bush The Elder isn't loved by many "liberals"... but any you find who wish his death are also likely to wear tinfoil hats and think their cat ordered it.


"Liberals" don't want Bush the Lesser dead - they want him arrested. Cheney they want waterboarded.
 
2009-01-12 11:55:47 AM
I'm not a big fan of Mr. Bush, but I do think he believed he was always doing what was right.

That makes it much scarier in my opinion. He was "The Decider".

If he had different advisers, I wonder what the outcome would have been...
 
2009-01-12 12:00:33 PM
dokool: only 8 more days.

And then we can count down the 10 years till his Secret Service coverage stops and we can all line up for a cockpunch.


THIS
 
2009-01-12 12:02:10 PM
oldweevil: "Liberals" don't want Bush the Lesser dead - they want him arrested. Cheney they want waterboarded.

The way I see it, if we don't at least put these guys on trial in some fashion, we--the people, that is--are giving carte blanche to the next guy to abuse the office even further, should he or she be so inclined.

It started when Nixon was pardoned. That should've never happened. That man needed to serve time, an example should've been set.

Reagan et al also got off far too easily with Iran/Contra.

Bill Clinton with the perjury/impeachment thing. The man was impeached, and yet he was allowed to stay in office? Really?

Bush/Cheney have taken this precedent and used it to punch through the rule of law barrier many steps further, and they've also been allowed to get away with it.

What will the next guy accomplish?
 
2009-01-12 12:03:59 PM
meat0918: I'm not a big fan of Mr. Bush, but I do think he believed he was always doing what was right.

That makes it much scarier in my opinion. He was "The Decider".

If he had different advisers, I wonder what the outcome would have been...


I don't believe for a moment he ever tried to do the right thing. I believe he was positioned for the presidency in order to allow Cheneyfark to move some chess pieces around in the name of profit. This whole presidency was about dollars -- not about us and certainly not about upholding the Constitution.

Fark him in the arse with a sewer pipe and good riddance to very, very, very bad rubbish.
 
2009-01-12 12:04:39 PM
meat0918: I'm not a big fan of Mr. Bush, but I do think he believed he was always doing what was right.

That makes it much scarier in my opinion. He was "The Decider".

If he had different advisers, I wonder what the outcome would have been...


I agree. He completely believes in his mind that everything he's done has been for the good of the country. He's convinced himself of that, and truly believes that history will exonerate him. Yeah, good luck there buddy.
 
2009-01-12 12:06:46 PM
make me some tea: Bill Clinton with the perjury/impeachment thing. The man was impeached, and yet he was allowed to stay in office? Really?

I'm not defending what Clinton did (even though I don't think he should have been impeached for it), but the GOP didn't have the votes to get him out of office, they knew it, and they dragged the nation through a dog and pony show anyway.
 
2009-01-12 12:07:19 PM
farm1.static.flickr.com
 
2009-01-12 12:10:41 PM
Darconix: bulldg4life: Fighting back against....what?

You libs have made a mockery of political debate over the past eight years. Everything Bush did was wrong. And now everything your Messiah Obama does is right. Bush should've fought back against you asshats from the word "go." But DeltaXi65 is right. It's way the hell too late for it to matter.


Phil Herup: Thanks Mr. Bush.

Sure you made a ton of mistakes, but I believe you had the country's best interest at all times. You had some very difficult decisions to make, but at least you had the balls to make them despite waning approval ratings. Which is more than I can say about your predecessor, who governed by opinion polls.

Enjoy retirement.


Bush worship: truly nothing like it.
 
2009-01-12 12:14:39 PM
oldweevil: make me some tea: Bill Clinton with the perjury/impeachment thing. The man was impeached, and yet he was allowed to stay in office? Really?

I'm not defending what Clinton did (even though I don't think he should have been impeached for it), but the GOP didn't have the votes to get him out of office, they knew it, and they dragged the nation through a dog and pony show anyway.


Clinton's crime was certainly child's play compared to Nixon/Reagan/Bush II's transgressions, but perjury is still a jailable offense, what's right is right. If you or I were convicted of it, we'd serve time. Why should the President be above the law? Is he some sort of special citizen?

So far every President who's been so inclined to bend or break the law has proven that he's untouchable since 1974. That's 34 years of precedent. You think Bush was bad, wait until the next guy pushes it a step or ten further.

This has to be stopped now, before we lose our country entirely. It's still salvageable, but if we do nothing and keep looking the other way, drugging ourselves with celebrity gossip and partisan bickery, very quickly we will find ourselves without recourse.

Germany was a functioning democracy in the 20s. A free society, just like we are still for now.
 
2009-01-12 12:17:36 PM
Nabb1: "Of counsel"? I was not aware Mr. Bush had a law degree.

He got a GED in law from Crawford Ranch University. It turned out those weren't vacations, but actually strangely scheduled semesters.
 
2009-01-12 12:17:56 PM
politicalgateway: we misunderestimated him

I'm pleased to say he managed to fall far short of even my lowest expectations.
 
2009-01-12 12:31:12 PM
make me some tea: perjury

You keep using that word...
www.io.com
The elements of perjury and subornation of perjury are (i) oath; (ii) intent; (iii) falsity; and (iv) materiality. To secure a conviction under [section] 1621, the government must prove that the defendant took an oath authorized by a law of the United States before a competent tribunal, officer, or person and, while under such oath, willfully and knowingly made a false statement as to material facts. (32) A conviction under [section] 1623 requires proof that the defendant, while under oath in a proceeding before or ancillary to a court or grand jury of the United States, knowingly made a false statement as to material facts or used any item she knew to contain a false material statement. (33)

Can you find out why he was impeached but not convicted?
 
2009-01-12 12:41:04 PM
Sandelaphon: Can you find out why he was impeached but not convicted?

Because Congress let him off the hook. It was entirely political, not judicial.
 
2009-01-12 12:49:51 PM
What's the current over / under on how many days after the inaguratin that Shrubby gets sent to the Hague to stand trial for war crimes?

I'm guessing 14, since that's how long it will take the Repubs in DC to realize how crappy it is to try to operate in the Democratic-controlled Congress that Shrubby pretty much setup for them.
 
2009-01-12 12:52:38 PM
Diogenes: I don't entirely disagree with that statement. I just think when something of this magnitude occurs, the Fed has a role. And it was pretty clear for a few days in advance that this was going to be an event of considerable magnitude.

Yeah...and then, Monday night after the storm, everyone thought NO had been spared. It wasn't until the next day that the real problems started developing.

Disaster authorities suggest you have 72-96 hours of supplies for a reason. There's a very real chance the government won't get there for a couple of days. Add to that the total destruction of infrastructure including bridges and roads, and animals shooting at helicopters trying to bring supplies, and you've got a major issue.

/Still thinks Bush should have sent the military - Posse Comitatus be damned.
 
2009-01-12 12:54:43 PM
oldweasel: What's the current over / under on how many days after the inaguratin that Shrubby gets sent to the Hague to stand trial for war crimes?

I'm guessing 14, since that's how long it will take the Repubs in DC to realize how crappy it is to try to operate in the Democratic-controlled Congress that Shrubby pretty much setup for them.


I will take your bet. Please forward cash, check, money order or credit cards to Scerpes. W will not face war crimes trials in your lifetime.
 
2009-01-12 12:57:50 PM
www.theboxset.com

finally!
 
2009-01-12 12:59:55 PM
Diogenes: GaryPDX: The first mistake is actually believing the Fed can protect you or take care of you. As long as you keep that notion, you will always be disappointed.

I don't entirely disagree with that statement. I just think when something of this magnitude occurs, the Fed has a role. And it was pretty clear for a few days in advance that this was going to be an event of considerable magnitude.


Those idiots had a role of protecting themselves and leaving before disaster struck. It isn't like Katrina was unexpected.
 
2009-01-12 01:04:56 PM
Nemo's Brother: Diogenes: GaryPDX: The first mistake is actually believing the Fed can protect you or take care of you. As long as you keep that notion, you will always be disappointed.

I don't entirely disagree with that statement. I just think when something of this magnitude occurs, the Fed has a role. And it was pretty clear for a few days in advance that this was going to be an event of considerable magnitude.

Those idiots had a role of protecting themselves and leaving before disaster struck. It isn't like Katrina was unexpected.


New Orleans is an incredibly poor city. Most of the people left behind had no way out, or any money to take with them. You can argue about which level of government to most hold responsible (there is certainly plenty to go around) but the old "self-responsibility" blame game doesn't really work here.
 
2009-01-12 01:06:18 PM
TFA: it has been nearly six months since his last full press conference which took place on July 15, 2008

Major election. Major economic collapse. The start of a new war in Gaza. Russia turning off the natural gas for a lot of Europe. Canada's constitutional crisis. I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. And the President can't be bothered to have a press conference for any of it. *slow clap* Great leadership. Well done. Crimeny.
 
2009-01-12 01:19:00 PM
Nemo's Brother: Diogenes: GaryPDX: The first mistake is actually believing the Fed can protect you or take care of you. As long as you keep that notion, you will always be disappointed.

I don't entirely disagree with that statement. I just think when something of this magnitude occurs, the Fed has a role. And it was pretty clear for a few days in advance that this was going to be an event of considerable magnitude.

Those idiots had a role of protecting themselves and leaving before disaster struck. It isn't like Katrina was unexpected.


This is not an either-or situation. Residents should have been better prepared. Local and federal authorities should have had a better disaster plan. Plenty of fail to around.
 
2009-01-12 01:20:10 PM
So....no more speeches with the word 'freedom' said 85 billion times?

Well, there goes that drinking game.
 
2009-01-12 01:23:39 PM
Darconix: You libs have made a mockery of political debate over the past eight years. Everything Bush did was wrong. And now everything your Messiah Obama does is right. Bush should've fought back against you asshats from the word "go." But DeltaXi65 is right. It's way the hell too late for it to matter.

Blah blah blah...do yourself (and the rest of us) a favor and just post your buzzwords from now on. Here's an example:

Libs....Messiah...Obamabots

/Your shtick...it's showing
 
2009-01-12 01:31:46 PM
quizzical: TFA: it has been nearly six months since his last full press conference which took place on July 15, 2008

Major election. Major economic collapse. The start of a new war in Gaza. Russia turning off the natural gas for a lot of Europe. Canada's constitutional crisis. I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. And the President can't be bothered to have a press conference for any of it. *slow clap* Great leadership. Well done. Crimeny.


ATFY: It's been nearly two weeks since a torrent of over a billion gallons of coal ash sludge spilled out of an impoundment pond near a massive coal plant in Harriman, TN. Jan 2009. ...preliminary results of independent water testing showed dangerously high levels of toxic heavy metals at three locations near the environmental disaster, which spans over 300 acres of land and water at the confluence of the Emory and Clinch Rivers in eastern Tennessee.


George Bush doesn't give a flying fark about anyone unless their Rich.
 
2009-01-12 01:32:14 PM
NOOOOOOOOO!!!

Chevron is Condi's territory. she even had an oil tanker named after her called The Condoleeza Rice. did i spell that right? doenst' matter, you get the picture. the name was taken off the tanker when Shrub tapped her for Secretary of State.
 
2009-01-12 02:42:13 PM
Phil Herup: bulldg4life: Any President elected after January 1st, 1997 and his or her spouse only receive federal protection for 10 years. It's a giant liberal conspiracy.


Hmmmm, the more you know.

I think all POTUSs should have lifetime SS protection, with all the shiat we waste $$$ on this should be OK. You make a lot of enemies in this job.


I think Bush Jr. can depend on a lifetime of Blackwater protection what with all those no-bid government contracts he sent their way.
 
2009-01-12 02:54:26 PM
Scerpes: animals shooting at helicopters trying to bring supplies

Lie more.

The fact is, that if Harry Connick Jr could get there, FEMA could get there. Occam's razor, dude: if the simplest explanation is that the ineptitude of an unqualified Bush appointee seems to have caused the delays, then that's probably what happened.

If that had been the terror attack that the Bush admin was supposedly so well-prepared for, would federal response have arrived any sooner? Would we still be blaming the victims for not getting out in time?

The handling of Katrina will be a black mark on this country's record for 100 years. Just one of many put there by the Bush admin.
 
2009-01-12 03:14:20 PM
That anyone, I mean anyone, would stand up and defend this leader at this point is both sad and laughable.
 
2009-01-12 03:15:57 PM
Dear Mr. Bush,

JUST farkING LEAVE!!

Signed,

Everybody Except The Rural Retards.
 
2009-01-12 03:44:23 PM
WhoGAS: dokool: only 8 more days.

And then we can count down the 10 years till his Secret Service coverage stops and we can all line up for a cockpunch.

Nah. He's going to be in Texas. There're a few million people willing to act as his SS there. You'll be lucky to get into the neighborhood.



All the hillbillies in texas wont be able to save him whenl the government freezes his assets, cuffs him, and has him do the perp walk wearing an orange jumpsuit into the hague to stand trial for his war crimes.
 
2009-01-12 03:48:29 PM
make me some tea
"Bill Clinton with the perjury/impeachment thing. The man was impeached, and yet he was allowed to stay in office? Really?"

You sir, fail at constitutional law.

For make up homework, you must write an essay on the difference between "Charged" and "Convicted" and a second on the difference between "Impeached" and "Removed."
 
2009-01-12 04:34:09 PM
mr_bunny: That anyone, I mean anyone, would stand up and defend this leader at this point is both sad and laughable.


That you tink that way is immature and overdone. I don't think anyone is defending him, I don't think he is asking for your approval.
 
2009-01-12 04:41:03 PM
Phil Herup: mr_bunny: That anyone, I mean anyone, would stand up and defend this leader at this point is both sad and laughable.


That you tink that way is immature and overdone. I don't think anyone is defending him, I don't think he is asking for your approval.


I don't tink that way at all.

For you to tink that I would tink that makes me tink that you don't tink your thoughts all the way through, I tink.

What do you tink of that?
 
2009-01-12 04:49:26 PM
Phil Herup: mr_bunny: That anyone, I mean anyone, would stand up and defend this leader at this point is both sad and laughable.


That you tink that way is immature and overdone. I don't think anyone is defending him, I don't think he is asking for your approval.


As a a further point, not that it matters since what I say will get me thrown into a secret prison, I tink he should care about approval.

It isn't his job so much, as our job that we gave to him to do our bidding.

Did he do your bidding?

Well, did he? Is what happened under his watch what you want from the leader of the United States of America?
 
2009-01-12 05:01:59 PM
mr_bunny: Words fail me.

funny, bush has the same problem.
 
2009-01-12 05:09:15 PM
feel free to let the door hit you on the way out, arshole frother mucker

When it finally hits me that I do not have to see his smug, clueless smirk anymore it is very possible that I will weep tears of joy.

I really really really dislike this man. Really
 
2009-01-12 05:21:26 PM
images.cafepress.com
 
2009-01-12 05:21:50 PM
Didn't watch the presser. Anyone notice if he was drunk &/or hungover?


/bets on hungover, with a mimosa for breakfast.
//hair of the dog.
 
2009-01-12 06:44:46 PM
I've got two thoughts about this as I picked up my jaw off the floor:

1) He was really hungover/not high/using that part of his brain that everyone else in America has been using for the last 5 years... I was shocked and in awe

2) He has been finally replaced by aliens

Either way, this was the first time in over 7 years that I actually saw George Bush doing something presidential by admitting he has made countless countless mistakes - for almost an hour when I listened and looked at him that I actually did not have see an image of him in prison or dead.

Wow.

Unbelievable.
 
2009-01-12 07:44:45 PM
globalwarmingpraiser: I hope that we find out that Pres. Bush did a much better job than it appeared. I doubt it will happen but I do hope so.


I also Hope Pres. Obama does an amazing job. These things are not opposites.


images.blahpers.com
 
2009-01-12 07:55:12 PM
I watched it and was also amazed to see him admit to mistakes, though he didn't admit to the biggest whopper, which was lying to go into Iraq in the first place. Plus he was still in deep denial about how negatively the world now looks at America as a result of his administration.

History will NOT be kind to him. He was just as bad if not worse than Warren G. Harding, and Harding didn't get forgiven by history (though Reagan sure did...I still can't believe people weren't more outraged over his bullshiat presidency. The one thing Bush kept stressing that worried me greatly was that the US will be attacked again, and then we should watch how the president reacts to criticism that he should have done more before the attack. Makes me wonder if he's been ignoring a few things the past few months just to tip the odds that an attack happens early under Obama's watch, just to even the playing field a bit.

I wonder if Jon Stewart will run a compilation video clip tonight of Bush saying "I wish him the best." He must have said it about seventy times and I seriously doubt he actually means it. I think he believes (and hopes) that if Obama fails as well, he (Bush) will be exonerated by default.
 
2009-01-12 08:18:57 PM
 
2009-01-12 09:37:14 PM
"every day was a lot of fun"

... especially the day that Al Queda gave me the excuse to invade Iraq.
 
2009-01-12 09:59:03 PM
GaryPDX:

The first mistake is actually believing the Fed can protect you or take care of you. As long as you keep that notion, you will always be disappointed.



So, how do you feel about reducing the military to 1/5th of its current size, and prohibiting it from operating further than 200 miles from US soil without express written weekly permission from Congress?

You know... since the Federal government can't protect us, we sure seem to be wasting quite a bit of money on planes, tanks, and guns for protectin'.
 
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