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2009-01-12 12:25:27 AM
I had a buddy in college who interned at a small local radio station on the late night Sunday shift and he was told he had to play "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" some insane number of times between Halloween and Christmas, something like 180 or so. He loathed that song with a passion so he decided to fulfill the letter if not the spirit of the law. He made a bumper telling the listeners why he was playing it over and over and then basically just ran it for his entire shift. When his shift was about to be done he literally smashed the record on the air and said that at least on his shift nobody would have to listen to that garbage. The station manager heard this on his way in and was less than amused until the phone calls poured in praising my buddy. He kept his internship and the ratings went up.
 
2009-01-12 01:38:16 AM
eddyatwork: he was told he had to play "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" some insane number of times between Halloween and Christmas

He should've just killed himself.

But I approve of how he handled it.
 
2009-01-12 01:58:34 AM
eddyatwork: smashed the record

Did this happen in the 70s?
 
jgi
2009-01-12 01:59:23 AM
Radio is dead. While NPR does still produce some quality programs, who the hell listens to much radio anymore?

I wish it was different but it's not. Radio is dead.
 
2009-01-12 02:02:12 AM
I hate Christmas music. When I was in college I waited tables at a BBQ place, so I had to hear country Christmas music for about a month.

They didn't want to give me time off to see my family for Christmas. I told them I was going whether that job would be there when I got back or not. (They told me on my first day getting that 1 weekend off would not be a problem)
 
2009-01-12 02:03:44 AM
jgi: Radio is dead. While NPR does still produce some quality programs, who the hell listens to much radio anymore?

I wish it was different but it's not. Radio is dead.


I spend most of my work days listening to radio, so it matters to me at least. NPR is on frequently, but so are a lot of rock stations. There's one in particular that plays a lot of older material (everything from Edison Lighthouse to The Doors) that slowly began airing Christmas carols in November and was playing nothing but by mid December. I want to ROCK, damn it, not pretend that I'm four.
 
2009-01-12 02:04:24 AM
Got lucky this year. Only had to listen to one of the *two* local 'all Christmas music all the time' stations for two days at work.

Last year they piped the stuff over the speaker system the entire month of December.

Was ready to punch Santa Claus by the time the first week of it was over.
 
2009-01-12 02:07:16 AM
All Christmas displays should be banned except between Thanksgiving
and January 6th.
 
2009-01-12 02:07:44 AM
ArcLight: ...Last year they piped the stuff over the speaker system the entire month of December...

Jesus. Were they trying to instigate a workplace shooting?
 
2009-01-12 02:13:12 AM
Does anybody really want to hear Band Aid..again?
 
jgi
2009-01-12 02:31:22 AM
WFern: I spend most of my work days listening to radio, so it matters to me at least.

Nobody at work owns an mp3 player? If you can work a soldering iron, you can turn a cheap boombox into an mp3 player.
 
2009-01-12 02:36:17 AM
What about grocery stores that sell egg nog before Halloween?

/Seen it with my own two eyes.
//I love Christmas and egg nog, but selling it before Halloween is just damn goofy, IMHO.
 
2009-01-12 02:36:57 AM
jgi: Nobody at work owns an mp3 player? If you can work a soldering iron, you can turn a cheap boombox into an mp3 player.

I should specify that I'm listening to it in a car. I'm a driver for a rental company and spend most of my time cruising.
 
2009-01-12 02:42:32 AM
jgi: WFern: I spend most of my work days listening to radio, so it matters to me at least.

Nobody at work owns an mp3 player? If you can work a soldering iron, you can turn a cheap boombox into an mp3 player.


Sometimes it's really just not worth it.

I got lucky, and my coworkers thanked me for it later, but the radio station I prefer at work (oldies rock stuff like the Beatles) didn't play a single Christmas song until after Thanksgiving, and even then only played maybe one every few hours.

Of course, the week before Christmas they actually played a lot, but I'll forgive any station playing Christmas music the week before Christmas. The day after Christmas they announced their final Christmas song, and played Trans Siberian Orchestra.

All in all, I like the station.

/that, and it's fun to watch older customers hum along to 'American Pie' while ordering
 
2009-01-12 02:45:29 AM
jgi: Radio is dead. While NPR does still produce some quality programs, who the hell listens to much radio anymore?

I wish it was different but it's not. Radio is dead.


I have a friend who is pretty much the sole employee of a rural small-town radio station. In isolated, rural communities radio's definitely not dead, and neither is the print media. A lot of these people don't have the internet and are never going to get it (at least not for a long time.) It's the only way they have of connecting to their community.
 
jgi
2009-01-12 02:51:21 AM
WFern: I should specify that I'm listening to it in a car. I'm a driver for a rental company and spend most of my time cruising.

That's different and makes sense. I personally would probably carry a few CDs with me, but you gotta do what you gotta do in those situations.

Tachikoma: Sometimes it's really just not worth it.

Effort is always worth it. I like making my life better, one small step at a time.

destitute college kid: A lot of these people don't have the internet and are never going to get it (at least not for a long time.) It's the only way they have of connecting to their community.

Makes sense. I guess I meant quality radio. If radio is your only way to connecting to other human beings in an incredibly isolated environment, quality is probably not your primary concern.
 
2009-01-12 02:52:27 AM
jgi: Makes sense. I guess I meant quality radio. If radio is your only way to connecting to other human beings in an incredibly isolated environment, quality is probably not your primary concern.

Unfortunately, you're right. Still, there's always NPR. Or at least hopefully, there will always be NPR...
 
2009-01-12 02:56:50 AM
Tachikoma: ...
/that, and it's fun to watch older customers hum along to 'American Pie' while ordering


Nothing against anyone who likes it, but I can't stand that song myself. Makes my blood boil and I'm not entirely sure why.

jgi: That's different and makes sense. I personally would probably carry a few CDs with me, but you gotta do what you gotta do in those situations.

Oh, I did carry CDs for quite a while, but the songs eventually got old. I've gotten to a point instead where I've preprogrammed most of the cars with five stations that I flip through as needed.
 
2009-01-12 03:08:03 AM
WFern: ArcLight: ...Last year they piped the stuff over the speaker system the entire month of December...

Jesus. Were they trying to instigate a workplace shooting?


Where I work, they started with the Christmas Carols on Nov. 1st...Yeah... Farking November farking 1st for farking fark's sake... And was still playing the shiat on January 1st.

/Farkers
 
2009-01-12 03:23:07 AM
jgi: Radio is dead.

Not at work. If a group can agree on a station the day goes a lot faster. Personally, I'd listen to NPR all day but someone else would insist on equal time for Limbaugh or worse(oh, yes there is) so oldies are just fine. Weather warnings and local news(bomb scare at your kid's school?) are good, too. Innocuous background noise that tells you a tornado is coming? What can replace that?
 
2009-01-12 03:23:54 AM
I work in Milwaukee radio so I'm getting a kick...
 
2009-01-12 06:42:41 AM
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: jgi: Radio is dead.

Not at work. If a group can agree on a station the day goes a lot faster. Personally, I'd listen to NPR all day but someone else would insist on equal time for Limbaugh or worse(oh, yes there is) so oldies are just fine. Weather warnings and local news(bomb scare at your kid's school?) are good, too. Innocuous background noise that tells you a tornado is coming? What can replace that?


Not living in an area where sudden tornadoes are a problem.
 
2009-01-12 07:17:05 AM
I work at a radio station and the easy listening station down the hall does that thing where they play Christmas music weeks earlier than they should. That first week that they start playing it, I make sure to pop my head into the studio and give a boisterous "MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!" to the miserable DJ on duty.

They love that.

Also, in reference to the Boobies, what radio station allows an intern to play any song? The radio stations I've worked at, the interns don't even enter the building outside of normal business hours and they certainly don't play anything on the air. They don't have air shifts.
 
2009-01-12 07:17:16 AM
What is this "radio" you speak of?
 
2009-01-12 07:52:59 AM
Now if someone would only do a study that shows that retail Christmas displays put up before November (I saw that this year) actually drive down sales. I'm sure they do, if only for me. When I see pumpkins cheek by jowl with tinsel and ornaments, I have a piquant flash of rage, not a Pavlovian spend-response.

/Shorts and swimsuits on display in March also create pre-emptive consumer apathy.
 
2009-01-12 08:32:43 AM
Shatnerfreude: Now if someone would only do a study that shows that retail Christmas displays put up before November (I saw that this year) actually drive down sales.

Wal*Mart had Christmas stuff out on August 15th last year.

Shorts and swimsuits on display in March also create pre-emptive consumer apathy.

Target already has swimsuits on sale.
 
2009-01-12 08:59:16 AM
The Christmas Tree shops in New England started their 2009 Christmas season on December 26th.

Beat that.
 
2009-01-12 09:01:28 AM
ElusiveWookiee:
Shorts and swimsuits on display in March also create pre-emptive consumer apathy.

Target already has swimsuits on sale.



QFT
I went to Target last week with my wife because she needed a new scarf. They took all them down and put up their swimsuits
Jan 6
In New Hampshire
 
2009-01-12 09:32:32 AM
::sigh:: As a radio person myself, I gotta stick up for us...

Yeah... Christmas music is all about pulling in ratings and money. But the article ONLY refers to Milwaukee, where it looks like it didn't work.

In my hometown of Philly... they had FIVE stations within listening distance doing the All-Christmas for a while. One was #1, one jumped MAJORLY in the ratings... the others were basically flat.

Ratings have shown that All-Christmas does work a lot. Unfortunately those who have to work for said stations want to shoot themselves in the head by Thanksgiving, but still!
 
2009-01-12 11:06:48 AM
...and they even have segregated christmas and chanukah channels.

Of course, I prefer the christmas song shows on Howard 100 and Howard 101. Between the Red Peters christmas show, and Tiny Tim's "Santa Clause Has Got The AIDS This Year", what more could one want from that damned holiday?
 
2009-01-12 11:28:57 AM
jason103: I work at a radio station and the easy listening station down the hall does that thing where they play Christmas music weeks earlier than they should. That first week that they start playing it, I make sure to pop my head into the studio and give a boisterous "MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!" to the miserable DJ on duty.

They love that.

Also, in reference to the Boobies, what radio station allows an intern to play any song? The radio stations I've worked at, the interns don't even enter the building outside of normal business hours and they certainly don't play anything on the air. They don't have air shifts.


His station apparently still uses records. I'm calling BS.
 
2009-01-12 12:00:08 PM
I've been going to therapy several times a week for the last 3 months after an elbow replacement. I went in the Monday after Thanksgiving and the satellite station pumped throughout the hospital was on Christmas music. And not happy Christmas music, but rather the old, depressing kind that sounded like a dirge. I'm positive that everyone who played on those songs in long since dead. I was sick of it after only a couple of hours and one of the therapists made an offhand comment that he may have to get creative in finding a way to get rid of it since there was no volume controls in the room. The next day I was there, the room was silent. He had shut the door on his lunch break, moved a tile in the drop ceiling, and wrapped the speaker in a couple of towels. He got a lot of compliments from the patients.
 
2009-01-12 12:19:28 PM
I hate, hate, HATE how we handle holidays in this society. Retailers bombard us with displays, music, and propaganda so early on that by the time the holiday actually arrives, we're sick to death of it. Their whoring of Christmas is part of the reason I don't feel anything resembling Christmas spirit when the holiday comes around anymore.

The day after Christmas, I went into a store and saw a display of Valentine's Day items. FRAKKING VALENTINE'S DAY! What's worse, a local drug store chain already has an aisle of EASTER candy and gift items. I know retailers have all sorts of excuses for why they do this, but it's all bullshiat. There is no logical reason for putting Easter items out on shelves any time before, at the earliest, the beginning of March. As for Valentine's Day, since it happens on the 14th of February, 30 days in advance should be plenty of time for the gifts and candy to go out on shelves and for people to buy them. If you can't get your shiat together for your sweetheart before that time, you've got problems.

Christmas music should not be heard until the beginning of December, but since the Christmas shopping season technically starts on Black Friday (the day after Thanksgiving), I can excuse those who start playing that kind of music then. But, playing Christmas music any time before Thanksgiving is absolutely ridiculous.

Lewis Black said it best: we don't really celebrate holidays anymore; we just like to tell people they're coming.
 
2009-01-12 12:27:30 PM
Yeah.

When these stations went to Christmas Music on Halloween (or the day after)I decided to avoid ALL radio C'mas music and did a pretty
good job of it, too.

Glad to see these bastards failed in the ratings.
 
2009-01-12 12:41:02 PM
Radio is dead. While NPR does still produce some quality programs, who the hell listens to much radio anymore?

I wish it was different but it's not. Radio is dead.


No it's not troll, radio is like everything else. It's a little
slow right now.

Did you know the #1 accessory that iPod owners want is a radio?
98% of Americans still hear the radio for atleast an hour a day.

XM/Sirius is struggling too finacially. I have it in one of my cars and they are almost as bad for repetition as terrestrial radio.

Bottom line is, if your done with radio, fine.We won't miss you. You're probably the type that would never fill out a diary anyway. But don't pull blanket statements outta your ass and expect everyone to follow along and agree.
 
2009-01-12 01:28:59 PM
Radio is dead. While NPR does still produce some quality programs, who the hell listens to much radio anymore?

I wish it was different but it's not. Radio is dead.

markiedog


No it's not troll, radio is like everything else. It's a little
slow right now.

Did you know the #1 accessory that iPod owners want is a radio?
98% of Americans still hear the radio for atleast an hour a day.

XM/Sirius is struggling too finacially. I have it in one of my cars and they are almost as bad for repetition as terrestrial radio.

Bottom line is, if your done with radio, fine.We won't miss you. You're probably the type that would never fill out a diary anyway. But don't pull blanket statements outta your ass and expect everyone to follow along and agree.


Other than the two BMW carjackers last week that showed up looking for drugs and hot women when the victim of their carjacking attempt texted them to show up looking for hot women and drugs, you are dumbest person I've seen on fark in months, possibly years.

98% of Americans listen to the radio at least an hour a day? Radio listenership has NEVER been that high... EVER. There's far more than 2% of Americans who don't even come into contact with a radio on any given day, let alone listen to an hour of it.

Like newspaper, terrestrial radio is a dying medium. And not just because of XM/Sirius, but because people would rather listen to iPods (and other mp3 players), cell phones that are mp3 players, CD players in cars, and people talking on their cell phones and not listening to the radio when driving, and at home it's streaming music via any one of dozens of internet sources. Every radio group is cutting jobs to maintain profitability these days. Most are resorting to voice tracking to avoid paying a full time DJ. Advertising is drying up because internet and TV are much more cost effective.

This #1 iPod accessory you speak of is NOT a radio, it's an FM modulator so they can play their iPod OVER THEIR RADIO, dipshiat.

I won't argue too hard about Sirius/XM because they have shortened their play lists since Sirius took over... but as they lose subscribers, they will eventually fire the former CBS radio execs who are currently in charge that think shortened playlists annoying DJs are why people get Sirius... as we all know, it's the opposite.

Finally, filling out a diary? Ummm, not many people do. Arbitron gets a couple of diaries back for each book and then invents the radio ratings. That's why portable people meters won't fly... when it shows radio audiences being even more microscopic than they appear with the current diary format, no radio station will subscribe to the data. Besides, with audiences so small, you think it's wise to tell ANYONE to stop listening to your product?
 
2009-01-12 04:28:03 PM
markiedog: 98% of Americans still hear the radio for atleast an hour a day.

I listen to NPR/PRI all day at my desk. I still think of it as 'radio' even if I'm downloading a stream, because it's the exact same content being broadcast on the air.
 
2009-01-12 08:08:51 PM
Correction

You're right, it is impossible for 98% of people to listen. What
I should have said was, 98% of people with car radios listen for
almost an hour a day.

I wasn't talking about having a radio on an iPod (farkface)I said that was the #1 thing they wanted!

Where the hell are people going to get new music? MTV? The internet? Dream on.

The People Meter will work alot better than having some mom
fill out 5 diaries for her whole family. It will register what
they hear. It will be better.

Why radio is alive? Because it's the only format that can reach
thousands of people in an instant, live. You can buy an ad in the moring and have it on by the afternoon. TV can't do that. News-
papers sure as hell can't.

Why do you hate radio and want it to die?
 
2009-01-13 02:01:44 AM
I wish radio stations would wait a bit before going into 24/7 Christmas mode. But the timing doesn't bother me as much as the limited playlists. There's a lot of great holiday music out there and there's no reason why I should have to hear "Last Christmas" four times an hour or "Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time" at all.
 
2009-01-13 02:25:20 PM
The Why Not Guy: I wish radio stations would wait a bit before going into 24/7 Christmas mode. But the timing doesn't bother me as much as the limited playlists. There's a lot of great holiday music out there and there's no reason why I should have to hear "Last Christmas" four times an hour or "Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time" at all.

I have to agree. There aresome great holiday songs, in all sorts of genres, that never get any air time. I've been picking up one or two comps a year, just to have something different to play during tree trimming / Xmas dinner.
I tend to like the Swing era stuff and the recent Hard Rock/Metal forays.
Overall though, I wish stations would wait until Black Friday to start their Xmas bombardments.
 
2009-01-13 07:34:07 PM
AgtSmithReloaded: I hate, hate, HATE how we handle holidays in this society. Retailers bombard us with displays, music, and propaganda so early on that by the time the holiday actually arrives, we're sick to death of it. Their whoring of Christmas is part of the reason I don't feel anything resembling Christmas spirit when the holiday comes around anymore.

The day after Christmas, I went into a store and saw a display of Valentine's Day items. FRAKKING VALENTINE'S DAY! What's worse, a local drug store chain already has an aisle of EASTER candy and gift items. I know retailers have all sorts of excuses for why they do this, but it's all bullshiat. There is no logical reason for putting Easter items out on shelves any time before, at the earliest, the beginning of March. As for Valentine's Day, since it happens on the 14th of February, 30 days in advance should be plenty of time for the gifts and candy to go out on shelves and for people to buy them. If you can't get your shiat together for your sweetheart before that time, you've got problems.

Christmas music should not be heard until the beginning of December, but since the Christmas shopping season technically starts on Black Friday (the day after Thanksgiving), I can excuse those who start playing that kind of music then. But, playing Christmas music any time before Thanksgiving is absolutely ridiculous.

Lewis Black said it best: we don't really celebrate holidays anymore; we just like to tell people they're coming.


I saw Cadbury Eggs on December 27. I did a double take...then bought a dozen.
 
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