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2009-01-09 01:24:15 AM
And most likely he will still piss and moan to his appellate attorney.
 
2009-01-09 01:25:05 AM
Franklin, who was allowed to remain free after he was convicted of possession with intent to deliver a controlled substance,

James Carroll Franklin, a 47-year-old air conditioning technician from Azle, apparently panicked after hearing prosecutors in the Decatur courtroom Wednesday urge jurors to sentence him to life in prison


This goddamn war on drugs business is getting out of control. Life in prison for a first time conviction of man who wasn't even committing a violent act when he was arrested with the drugs? Unless he had a semi full of crack cocaine packed on top of 13 year old kidnapped Thai sex workers I don't see how that's justified.

Cops: Fark you for using the drug industry to justify your mostly worthless existences. Legislators: Fark you for creating these laws to begin with. Supreme Fark Court: A great big FARK YOU for allowing these shennanigans to go on (no knock warrants? Really?)

We need to un-create this tolerance of oppression under the guise of law and order that has been growing for the past 30 years.
 
2009-01-09 01:25:35 AM
he knows something we dont.
 
2009-01-09 01:26:06 AM
What PoopStain said.
 
2009-01-09 01:28:43 AM
"I fouled up, didn't I?"


Uhh yeah, sure, that's what he said.
Fouled.
 
2009-01-09 01:29:32 AM
all because he fled before hearing the verdict and was captured after a high-speech chase through three counties.

I just don't know what to say. Proof reader wanted, or maybe someone can thing of an illustration.
 
2009-01-09 01:30:48 AM
I don't understand Subby's "wait, what?" comment: The guy ran, he got time added to his sentence, what's puzzling about that?
 
2009-01-09 01:31:10 AM
Also, what PoopStain said.

I wrote a book about it.
For chrissakes.

Private Prisons = Need For Evil

Make Drugs Illegal = Instant Evil!
 
2009-01-09 01:31:26 AM
PoopStain: Franklin, who was allowed to remain free after he was convicted of possession with intent to deliver a controlled substance,

James Carroll Franklin, a 47-year-old air conditioning technician from Azle, apparently panicked after hearing prosecutors in the Decatur courtroom Wednesday urge jurors to sentence him to life in prison

This goddamn war on drugs business is getting out of control. Life in prison for a first time conviction of man who wasn't even committing a violent act when he was arrested with the drugs? Unless he had a semi full of crack cocaine packed on top of 13 year old kidnapped Thai sex workers I don't see how that's justified.

Cops: Fark you for using the drug industry to justify your mostly worthless existences. Legislators: Fark you for creating these laws to begin with. Supreme Fark Court: A great big FARK YOU for allowing these shennanigans to go on (no knock warrants? Really?)

We need to un-create this tolerance of oppression under the guise of law and order that has been growing for the past 30 years.


This with a double-measure of fark the Police.

/Soooooooweeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
2009-01-09 01:32:06 AM
wildcardjack: all because he fled before hearing the verdict and was captured after a high-speech chase through three counties.

I just don't know what to say. Proof reader wanted, or maybe someone can thing of an illustration.


teehee
 
2009-01-09 01:33:30 AM
His prosecutors should be sentenced to life in prison. I'm not joking.
 
2009-01-09 01:34:24 AM
PoopStain: This goddamn war on drugs business is getting out of control.

Perhaps, but this isn't a great example. The *prosecutors* "urged" the jury to give the life sentence, but they didn't. They gave him a 6 year sentence which basically turned into probation. Prosecutors calling for a harsh sentence probably isn't out of the ordinary. =)
 
2009-01-09 01:35:44 AM
I can't even watch COPS anymore. All it is, is drug arrests.
 
2009-01-09 01:35:58 AM
bbickel: I don't understand Subby's "wait, what?" comment: The guy ran, he got time added to his sentence, what's puzzling about that?

RTFA, genius.
 
2009-01-09 01:37:37 AM
MetalSlime: Perhaps, but this isn't a great example. The *prosecutors* "urged" the jury to give the life sentence, but they didn't.

That a life sentence was even something on the table is indicative of something that is grossly, severely wrong.

mrEdude: I wrote a book about it.

Share with the class, or you won't make any money.
 
2009-01-09 01:39:23 AM
I'll pee on you.
 
2009-01-09 01:41:12 AM
PoopStain: That a life sentence was even something on the table is indicative of something that is grossly, severely wrong.

Welcome to the world of prosecutors. It's their job to get the longest/most punishing sentence for the accused, whether they be innocent or not.
 
2009-01-09 01:42:17 AM
all because he fled before hearing the verdict and was captured after a high-speech chase through three counties.

www.resolveproductions.com

Wanted for questioning
 
2009-01-09 01:45:33 AM
We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off
 
2009-01-09 01:45:50 AM
Dear Caspar,

Don't drop the soap.

Love,
Balthasar and Melchior
 
2009-01-09 01:51:45 AM
Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off


We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.
 
2009-01-09 01:56:04 AM
dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.


We need to all just quietly accept the fact that the justice system is always right, and that the punishment always fits the crime because 'Murricah don't make no mistakes!
 
2009-01-09 01:56:14 AM
Can someone explain to me how it makes sense that the same exact crime can have a sentence of either a $1000 fine and 6 years probation, or Life Imprisonment.

Absolutely unbelievable.

I think if I were 47 and facing a life sentence, I'd give escape a try.
 
2009-01-09 01:58:47 AM
dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.


Why do you want to imprison people for minor drug offenses?
 
2009-01-09 02:00:57 AM
TheyCallThisWork: Can someone explain to me how it makes sense that the same exact crime can have a sentence of either a $1000 fine and 6 years probation, or Life Imprisonment.

Absolutely unbelievable.

I think if I were 47 and facing a life sentence, I'd give escape a try.


I seriously considered fleeing for something much less severe than life. Luckily the case was dismissed, but it could have ended badly.
 
2009-01-09 02:02:19 AM
PoopStain: Franklin, who was allowed to remain free after he was convicted of possession with intent to deliver a controlled substance,

James Carroll Franklin, a 47-year-old air conditioning technician from Azle, apparently panicked after hearing prosecutors in the Decatur courtroom Wednesday urge jurors to sentence him to life in prison

This goddamn war on drugs business is getting out of control. Life in prison for a first time conviction of man who wasn't even committing a violent act when he was arrested with the drugs? Unless he had a semi full of crack cocaine packed on top of 13 year old kidnapped Thai sex workers I don't see how that's justified.

Cops: Fark you for using the drug industry to justify your mostly worthless existences. Legislators: Fark you for creating these laws to begin with. Supreme Fark Court: A great big FARK YOU for allowing these shennanigans to go on (no knock warrants? Really?)

We need to un-create this tolerance of oppression under the guise of law and order that has been growing for the past 30 years.


Doesn't it seem a bit off when someone who calls himself "poopstain" is a voice of reason in this country while the respectable folks commit crimes against humanity?
 
2009-01-09 02:03:27 AM
Who here likes Battlestar Galactica?
 
2009-01-09 02:07:46 AM
icanhazstapler: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

We need to all just quietly accept the fact that the justice system is always right, and that the punishment always fits the crime because 'Murricah don't make no mistakes!


We need to remember to always blame the criminal justice system for our poor decisions.
 
2009-01-09 02:08:49 AM
CaesarSneezy: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

Why do you want to imprison people for minor drug offenses?


Why do you fail at reading comprehension?
 
2009-01-09 02:09:35 AM
CaesarSneezy: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

Why do you want to imprison people for minor drug offenses?


I absolutely don't want to see people arrested for minor drug charges. I was just seeing if people were still awake (in the broad sense). It seems that we are throwing our liberties away to the people who protect us.
 
2009-01-09 02:10:02 AM
dave2198: icanhazstapler: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

We need to all just quietly accept the fact that the justice system is always right, and that the punishment always fits the crime because 'Murricah don't make no mistakes!

We need to remember to always blame the criminal justice system for our poor decisions.


And ignore the fact that poor decicions made by those who run the criminal justice system are causing more harm to society than a 47 year old AC repairman?
 
2009-01-09 02:10:04 AM
Cucullen: Doesn't it seem a bit off when someone who calls himself "poopstain" is a voice of reason in this country while the respectable folks commit crimes against humanity?

I have explained the name in my profile. "Rage filled white guy" just didn't have the same hook.
 
2009-01-09 02:11:52 AM
bbickel: I don't understand Subby's "wait, what?" comment: The guy ran, he got time added to his sentence, what's puzzling about that?

You really don't get that man from Wise county, therefore a "Wise man" does something dumb = wait what?

Or did I just fall for it?
 
2009-01-09 02:13:39 AM
Mitch Mitchell: CaesarSneezy: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

Why do you want to imprison people for minor drug offenses?

I absolutely don't want to see people arrested for minor drug charges. I was just seeing if people were still awake (in the broad sense). It seems that we are throwing our liberties away to the people who protect us.


Poor legislative decisions have nothing to do with an individual's poor choices. If you get caught with a substance you know to be illegal, you should win some kind of minor-league Darwin award.
 
2009-01-09 02:17:12 AM
bbickel: I don't understand Subby's "wait, what?" comment: The guy ran, he got time added to his sentence, what's puzzling about that?

Subby probably meant the guy determined he wasn't so "Wise" after all. (Wise County, that is...)
 
2009-01-09 02:18:31 AM
Karma Chameleon: dave2198: icanhazstapler: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

We need to all just quietly accept the fact that the justice system is always right, and that the punishment always fits the crime because 'Murricah don't make no mistakes!

We need to remember to always blame the criminal justice system for our poor decisions.

And ignore the fact that poor decicions made by those who run the criminal justice system are causing more harm to society than a 47 year old AC repairman?


I am not ignoring anything. Rather, it seems you would like to make excuses for the poor decisions of a 47-year old AC repairman.

This man, like every conscious person in America, knows how stiff drug penalties are, yet he still allowed himself to get caught in posession. Give the man an award for being retarded.
 
2009-01-09 02:26:54 AM
dave2198: CaesarSneezy: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

Why do you want to imprison people for minor drug offenses?

Why do you fail at reading comprehension?


Answer the question or STFU. Either you support the law, or you think it is an injustice but still look down on those imprisoned as whiners. It isn't my reading comprehension that's the issue here, it's your apparent lack of conviction.
 
2009-01-09 02:30:34 AM
dave2198: Give the man an award for being retarded.

Life in prison?
 
2009-01-09 02:32:07 AM
This is a good example of how fark'd up things are.

First up are the drug laws. They make certain vices illegal to save people from themselves but then when people do drugs anyway they ruin their lives by locking people up in cages. So instead of people destroying their lives themselves with drugs the government does it for them instead with prison. Sense, this makes none.

Second up is the arbitrary way 'justice' is 'served'. anything from probation to life for being convicted of a drug drug charge? Makes it so that people are just at the mercy of the government system.

Third up is the fact that people have forgotten about the important role of jury nullification. The government's courts have been very good at convincing people they have to come to a verdict based upon the judges instructions and the law. It neglects the most important aspect of the jury system, and that is to judge the law itself. The jury system exists as not to be judged by one's 'peers' as much as it is to restrict the power of government by making laws that are wrong such as this war on drugs unenforceable.
 
2009-01-09 02:35:59 AM
dave2198: Karma Chameleon: dave2198: icanhazstapler: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

We need to all just quietly accept the fact that the justice system is always right, and that the punishment always fits the crime because 'Murricah don't make no mistakes!

We need to remember to always blame the criminal justice system for our poor decisions.

And ignore the fact that poor decicions made by those who run the criminal justice system are causing more harm to society than a 47 year old AC repairman?

I am not ignoring anything. Rather, it seems you would like to make excuses for the poor decisions of a 47-year old AC repairman.

This man, like every conscious person in America, knows how stiff drug penalties are, yet he still allowed himself to get caught in posession. Give the man an award for being retarded.


How was I making excuses for this dude? I'm simply stating, like most people who have half a brain, that the War on Drugs has been a colossal failure, and I implore you to prove to me otherwise.
 
2009-01-09 02:38:11 AM
leadmetal: Third up is the fact that people have forgotten about the important role of jury nullification. The government's courts have been very good at convincing people they have to come to a verdict based upon the judges instructions and the law. It neglects the most important aspect of the jury system, and that is to judge the law itself. The jury system exists as not to be judged by one's 'peers' as much as it is to restrict the power of government by making laws that are wrong such as this war on drugs unenforceable.

But... but... lynchings!

Seriously. Jury nullification is one of our most important rights and could arguably trump all others.
 
2009-01-09 02:41:28 AM
TheyCallThisWork: Can someone explain to me how it makes sense that the same exact crime can have a sentence of either a $1000 fine and 6 years probation, or Life Imprisonment.

Absolutely unbelievable.

I think if I were 47 and facing a life sentence, I'd give escape a try.

I'd run for 10, never mind life sentence.
 
2009-01-09 02:45:59 AM
CaesarSneezy: dave2198: CaesarSneezy: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

Why do you want to imprison people for minor drug offenses?

Why do you fail at reading comprehension?

Answer the question or STFU. Either you support the law, or you think it is an injustice but still look down on those imprisoned as whiners. It isn't my reading comprehension that's the issue here, it's your apparent lack of conviction.


Ding ding ding.

But see, when you start assuming things about me, like that I like to see pot smokers imprisoned, I get a little touchy and tend to talk down to you, since you decided to add words to my original post, instead of simply reading it.
 
2009-01-09 02:47:00 AM
PoopStain: dave2198: Give the man an award for being retarded.

Life in prison?


Probation? Were we reading the same article?

/not everybody gets life, yo
 
2009-01-09 02:49:51 AM
Karma Chameleon: dave2198: Karma Chameleon: dave2198: icanhazstapler: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

We need to all just quietly accept the fact that the justice system is always right, and that the punishment always fits the crime because 'Murricah don't make no mistakes!

We need to remember to always blame the criminal justice system for our poor decisions.

And ignore the fact that poor decicions made by those who run the criminal justice system are causing more harm to society than a 47 year old AC repairman?

I am not ignoring anything. Rather, it seems you would like to make excuses for the poor decisions of a 47-year old AC repairman.

This man, like every conscious person in America, knows how stiff drug penalties are, yet he still allowed himself to get caught in posession. Give the man an award for being retarded.

How was I making excuses for this dude? I'm simply stating, like most people who have half a brain, that the War on Drugs has been a colossal failure, and I implore you to prove to me otherwise.


I never said the War on Drugs wasn't a colossal failure. If you would go re-read my posts (or rather, read them for the first time), you would see that I can think two things at once:

1. The War on Drugs is retarded
2. In this climate, if you get caught with drugs knowing how illegal they are, you are utterly retarded and I have no sympathy.
 
2009-01-09 02:55:08 AM
dave2198: Probation? Were we reading the same article?

/not everybody gets life, yo


He got probation, they were requesting life. My problem is that life was on the table.

You've never been arrested, have you?
 
2009-01-09 02:58:50 AM
dave2198: Karma Chameleon: dave2198: Karma Chameleon: dave2198: icanhazstapler: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

We need to all just quietly accept the fact that the justice system is always right, and that the punishment always fits the crime because 'Murricah don't make no mistakes!

We need to remember to always blame the criminal justice system for our poor decisions.

And ignore the fact that poor decicions made by those who run the criminal justice system are causing more harm to society than a 47 year old AC repairman?

I am not ignoring anything. Rather, it seems you would like to make excuses for the poor decisions of a 47-year old AC repairman.

This man, like every conscious person in America, knows how stiff drug penalties are, yet he still allowed himself to get caught in posession. Give the man an award for being retarded.

How was I making excuses for this dude? I'm simply stating, like most people who have half a brain, that the War on Drugs has been a colossal failure, and I implore you to prove to me otherwise.

I never said the War on Drugs wasn't a colossal failure. If you would go re-read my posts (or rather, read them for the first time), you would see that I can think two things at once:

1. The War on Drugs is retarded
2. In this climate, if you get caught with drugs knowing how illegal they are, you are utterly retarded and I have no sympathy.


Glad you agree. And if no one ever broke the law or dared to challenge the morality and legality of certain government constructs, society (American or otherwise) would not have progressed much over the course of its history.
 
2009-01-09 03:00:57 AM
PoopStain: dave2198: Probation? Were we reading the same article?

/not everybody gets life, yo

He got probation, they were requesting life. My problem is that life was on the table.

You've never been arrested, have you?


No, because I'm not an idiot. I can see trouble coming and I know how to avoid it. And I don't f*** with cops. That alone keeps me out of most problems.

Face it, the system worked. Life was requested, but they always request something ridiculous. The correct sentence was handed down. Save your anger for a case that deserves it.
 
2009-01-09 03:04:27 AM
Karma Chameleon: dave2198: Karma Chameleon: dave2198: Karma Chameleon: dave2198: icanhazstapler: dave2198: Mitch Mitchell: We need more ashholes arresting people for minor drug charges and more ashholes in Judiciary positions to send these FARKERS into prison where they belong.

/Sarcasm off
//Off

We need more assholes who commit minor drug offenses, knowing they are illegal, who are stupid enough to get caught, who then whine about the unfairness later.

We need to all just quietly accept the fact that the justice system is always right, and that the punishment always fits the crime because 'Murricah don't make no mistakes!

We need to remember to always blame the criminal justice system for our poor decisions.

And ignore the fact that poor decicions made by those who run the criminal justice system are causing more harm to society than a 47 year old AC repairman?

I am not ignoring anything. Rather, it seems you would like to make excuses for the poor decisions of a 47-year old AC repairman.

This man, like every conscious person in America, knows how stiff drug penalties are, yet he still allowed himself to get caught in posession. Give the man an award for being retarded.

How was I making excuses for this dude? I'm simply stating, like most people who have half a brain, that the War on Drugs has been a colossal failure, and I implore you to prove to me otherwise.

I never said the War on Drugs wasn't a colossal failure. If you would go re-read my posts (or rather, read them for the first time), you would see that I can think two things at once:

1. The War on Drugs is retarded
2. In this climate, if you get caught with drugs knowing how illegal they are, you are utterly retarded and I have no sympathy.

Glad you agree. And if no one ever broke the law or dared to challenge the morality and legality of certain government constructs, society (American or otherwise) would not have progressed much over the course of its history.


I'm sorry, but you don't get to credit our society's progress to criminals. If anything, the retards who get caught with drugs every day do nothing but slow down progress by fulfilling every stereotype the public expects to see from drug offenders.

You don't change laws by getting arrested for breaking them. You change them by working with the authorities on their level.
 
2009-01-09 03:06:21 AM
dave2198:
I'm sorry, but you don't get to credit our society's progress to criminals. .


Still give your taxes to the Crown, I'm assuming?
 
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