Impudent Domain: wow this is one of the saddest and most pathetic threads ever.

/gee people, it's not really all that hard to find someone decent.
//and being with people is generally better than being alone

The projected $900 million (2007) in revenues from online dating sites disagrees with you. (link)

darkanomaly: See I don't know if that applies mainly to just males. I have put myself out there and been crushed many times. Also, most of the men that were worth my time I had to pursue, they weren't fumbling over me. And the few that were fumbling were pretty damn weird/creepy/stalkeresque.Who knows though, the whole dating scene is a mess IMO. I'm pretty damn happy to no longer be in it. Women who serial date assholes instead of the decent dudes out there... that's what bugs me the most. Mainly because they call me crying and asking for advice at 3 am when he hit on some other girl at a party.

True. I was generalising. The guy seems to be expected to take the aggressive approach in a lot of situations like that. But I agree with the issues with the dating scene. I wonder how much harder it's become because there's 6 billion different pieces of advice on what you should and shouldn't do when trying to show interest in someone (and associated issues with trying to understand if someone is interested in you or not.)

Agreed with the serial arsehole daters. Know a couple of those. The best was "He cheated on his wife with me, but after leaving her he started cheating on me! I don't know how he could treat me this way!"

I'm single, but honestly find the idea of finding someone way too hard at the moment. I have a tendency to just find the wrong people. Kudos to you for finding someone in this god-awful dating world!

CastorPimp
the girl i'm in love with decided to start dating my friend. will someone get the dagger out of my heart please?

dayum! that's rough.
does/did she know that you are/were in love with her?

oh, and



Sad clown thinks that's sad.

Wholly possible.

One set of grandparents made it 56 years, the other set 66. Both were as much in love the day one died as they were the day they met. My grandfather even brought fresh flowers daily to my grandmother's grave for a full year after she passed.

Magnanimous_J: It sounds whiny and pathetic. As if meaningful and longterm relationships have anything to do with luck and its the mean old universe that's picking on little you.

Be a man and start taking some of the things you want and watch your whole "luck" turn around

I'm glad you're so familiar with my life to make that assumption.

Fail on so many levels.

I was hoping that revealing the closely guarded secret that a woman with huge tits = happiness would lead to some BIE. I'm thoroughly disappointed.

I should bookmark this page. Just because I want to see if some of these "Haha, I met the love I my life; it was meant to be" people wind up being "love is a sham, I hate men/women." in the future.

Owangotang: Scifientologist: I'd prefer to die alone with my cats. They are the only thing in my life that gives me unconditional love.

Everyone else has been a disappointment.

What is so great about unconditional love? Honestly, I've never understood it. If I go out and murder someone I hope to hell my family stops loving me because I'm a monster. I'm, of course, not saying you have ever done such things, I just wonder why we want love given so freely with no strings attached?

I mostly agree with you,
'Love given freely with no strings attached' sounds like a person would put up with ALL the idiosyncrasies of their partner. They would love their partner no matter what weird habits they have. They would have to be pretty placid and love-struck. Either that, or have the mental capacity of a golden retriever. In a relationship like that, the person is essentially a doormat and is does not completely understand or feel motivated to express how he/she really feels about his/her partner. This does not sound like a healthy relationship. Part of being in a relationship is improving one another. Having your partner point out your flaws is how you can improve yourself. You don't notice until somebody says something. As long as the changes are constructive, the relationship grows. In this sense, love is sort of conditional. But it's never black and white. It's a continuum. I can imagine if I went out and murdered someone, I would be knocked down a few 'love' pegs by my family.

Personally, I'm not to worried or whiny about the 'love'-thing, I've got plenty of years ahead to browse.

Ringshadow: I love my cat. I'm more interested in getting back out of school and getting a job I enjoy then finding my soul mate. Guess I'm screwed.

It would help to stop searching at Anthrocon.


/no seriously, it's a bad idea 0_0

Dispector: I'm glad you're so familiar with my life to make that assumption.

I don't know anything about you. Maybe your just having a bad night, and are feeling a little bit down. But everything you have said on this thread points to you being a self-pitying pussy.

And if this is not just a normal, temporary bout of meloncholy, and is truly how you are most of the time, I can tell you exactly why you aren't attracting women.

Third_Uncle_Eno: CastorPimp
the girl i'm in love with decided to start dating my friend. will someone get the dagger out of my heart please?

dayum! that's rough.
does/did she know that you are/were in love with her?

oh, and



Sad clown thinks that's sad.

yes, we are good friends and I didn't tell her at first because I didn't want to screw things up, but by then she was already interested in my friend =/

/more fodder for the thread.

Magnanimous_J: Dispector: I'm glad you're so familiar with my life to make that assumption.

I don't know anything about you. Maybe your just having a bad night, and are feeling a little bit down. But everything you have said on this thread points to you being a self-pitying pussy.

And if this is not just a normal, temporary bout of meloncholy, and is truly how you are most of the time, I can tell you exactly why you aren't attracting women.

so cassanova what exactly did you do to turn your life around?

I'll vote for it...

Married my high school sweetheart after dating 2.5 years. Been married 6.5... so that's what, 9 years together since that first date? We still feel the same about her now as I did then. So far, we've beat the odds ("you're so young, you'll never make it, etc"). We aren't the exact same people we were when we met, me a HS senior and her a sophomore, but we've grown together, built our lives together, and I wouldn't want it any other way. We have two beautiful kids and have a closeness that grows sweeter and deeper with ever passing year.

/yeah, I know it sounds sappy
// don't care. consider myself lucky
/// just pissed off the 90+% of Farkers living in their moms' basements

Third_Uncle_Eno: [Elton John] Agrees.

No doubt, but it was Aunt Abby Brewster's idea originally...

Scifientologist: caamando: Scifientologist: I'd prefer to die alone with my cats. They are the only thing in my life that gives me unconditional love.

Everyone else has been a disappointment.

Unconditional? Cats only come when they want food or when they want attention. I've had two cats at home when I was younger. I've never seen a cat try to cheer a person up. I have seen dogs do it, but never a cat. Same things goes for trying to stop a fight. A dog will run into the middle of the two people and just start barking and nipping at them trying to get them separated, while the cats would take off running or just continue to watch. There's a reason Lassie wasn't a Siamese cat.

Clearly you don't know my cats.
Clearly you have "issues" with cats.
Clearly you are a cat hater.
Clearly I don't like you.
Clearly I am saying clearly too much.

/don't speak to me again...ever

Don't hate cats, just prefer dogs. Plus the cats would claw the shiat out of my legs if I would move an inch while sleeping. They'd stand at the foot of the bed and just wait to pounce.

/come to the darkog side

TheNovacat: I mostly agree with you,
'Love given freely with no strings attached' sounds like a person would put up with ALL the idiosyncrasies of their partner. They would love their partner no matter what weird habits they have. They would have to be pretty placid and love-struck. Either that, or have the mental capacity of a golden retriever. In a relationship like that, the person is essentially a doormat and is does not completely understand or feel motivated to express how he/she really feels about his/her partner. This does not sound like a healthy relationship. Part of being in a relationship is improving one another. Having your partner point out your flaws is how you can improve yourself. You don't notice until somebody says something. As long as the changes are constructive, the relationship grows. In this sense, love is sort of conditional. But it's never black and white. It's a continuum. I can imagine if I went out and murdered someone, I would be knocked down a few 'love' pegs by my family.

Personally, I'm not to worried or whiny about the 'love'-thing, I've got plenty of years ahead to browse.

Growing together is where it's at in my eyes, but I think people look for unconditional love (often in pets) because it's easier. There are no guarantees that you and your partner will grow together, you may grow apart. In many ways it is the ultimate wager.

I'm not really criticizing unconditional love, if it works for someone then that's awesome. I, however, want the ultimate wager.

Izunbacol: /// just pissed off the 90+% of Farkers living in their moms' basements

You had me up until that point. If your marriage is so amazing then why bother even considering what the "Farkers living in their moms' basements" think?

Legios: Be more confident only helps if you already have a half-decent level of confidence.

Yeah, someone once told me "Be more confident!" My reply was, "How? They don't exactly sell that shiat at Wal-Mart, you know."

CastorPimp
yes, we are good friends and I didn't tell her at first because I didn't want to screw things up, but by then she was already interested in my friend =/

/more fodder for the thread.

yeah... it goes like that sometimes...sorry to hear about it :-(
i feel for ya, bro.

women... can't live with em'....

[......]

what?

Jesus.
All this time I thought GM only AW-jacked TF threads.

CastorPimp: Third_Uncle_Eno: CastorPimp
the girl i'm in love with decided to start dating my friend. will someone get the dagger out of my heart please?

dayum! that's rough.
does/did she know that you are/were in love with her?

oh, and



Sad clown thinks that's sad.

yes, we are good friends and I didn't tell her at first because I didn't want to screw things up, but by then she was already interested in my friend =/

/more fodder for the thread.

Goddamn it. I just went through dealing with my youngest brother doing this shiat and now you? If you think you might be interested in a woman and she isn't married, tell her. Hiding it and pretending to be 'friends' is respectful to neither her nor you. If she rejects you, get over it. there are 3 billion female humans. You will find another one. If she can't get over it and the friendship dies, she's a loser and you're better off without a friend like her.

cthu1hu: Dispector: Who says being "true to myself" doesn't include fun and lots of laughing irregardless of romance? For some of us, that is not a defining characteristic of our life, but rather a bonus on an already rewarding life.

It's so seldom that you see that word anymore, that it makes a post special when you do. Bravo.

Is that a joke? Cuz "irregardless" isn't a word. "Regardless" does just fine.

darkanomaly:
Also, is it really hard for you guys to get some? Sounds like there are a lot of drunk willing girls at bars out there.

You should be DEAF right now from the thousands/millions/billions of men shouting HELL YES at the tops of their lungs...

I havent had a date with a 'single' guy in 5 years so i am getting a kick...

heres to being single and morally dubious.

/kiddin....

maybe

Wall Anchor
No doubt, but it was Aunt Abby Brewster's idea originally...

you've won this round.... lol :-P

[i didn't get the reference.... I haven't seen the movie.]
[but i assume it has something to do with elderberries]

CastorPimp: so cassanova what exactly did you do to turn your life around?

Two things, I spent some money on myself and quit thinking so much.

I bought some new clothes (that a stylish lady friend of mine picked out for me) and started going to a decent hair stylist. Sorry guys, supercuts won't do.

I moved into a better apartment that I wasn't embarrased to bring a woman home to.

The funny thing is, by spending more money which gave me better self confidence, I was able to land a much better job that paid way more.

I stopped worrying what people thought as much, so I spoke my mind more.

I asked out a lot of women and got shot down a lot. But some said yes, too.

I stopped thinking about "is she the one" and spent more time concentrating on the present.

And guess what? I now have a girlfriend that I could definitely see marrying.

So if I sound like a dick in these threads, its because I've been right there and know what its like to be moody and self pitying and pathetic.

ArgentCorvid: Legios: Be more confident only helps if you already have a half-decent level of confidence.

Yeah, someone once told me "Be more confident!" My reply was, "How? They don't exactly sell that shiat at Wal-Mart, you know."

you have to fake it. eventually if you fake it long enough it ends up being real

Owangotang: Growing together is where it's at in my eyes, but I think people look for unconditional love (often in pets) because it's easier. There are no guarantees that you and your partner will grow together, you may grow apart. In many ways it is the ultimate wager.

I'm not really criticizing unconditional love, if it works for someone then that's awesome. I, however, want the ultimate wager.

Indeed. If it happens - it happens.
I feel sorry for those saps expecting perfection right at the start. I think it makes a person too picky.

Izunbacol: /// just pissed off the 90+% of Farkers living in their moms' basements

Actually you just described my first marriage until the kids part, shortly after which she turned gay. Check in with her from time to time on just exactly what she is fantasizing about when she's getting hot under the covers. (What's really going through her mind while she's giving you that prostate massage?) I hope you don't get any unexpected surprises.

/planned to live happily forever after, within reason
//god is still laughing at me
///but I'm happier now

Owangotang: Izunbacol: /// just pissed off the 90+% of Farkers living in their moms' basements

You had me up until that point. If your marriage is so amazing then why bother even considering what the "Farkers living in their moms' basements" think?

Just threw that in there because I somehow knew it would lead to at least a dozen sarcastic comments. Those farkers will find someone one day... or they won't. My marriage isn't perfect; like everyone, we have our moments, don't always see eye to eye, etc. But, if we're always changing a bit, day to day, and the person she is today is not exactly the same as the person she was yesterday, that means that every day we have a new opportunity, however small, to fall in love again.

Or, maybe we're both just lucky enough to be genetically programmed to stay in love. We had her folks watching the kids Fri night (they're visiting from out of state) and got out for a date night. Sitting there with her, 2500 miles away from where we met, was just as magical as 9 years ago, and I couldn't ask for anything more.

Hey, what happened? We had a good "Twilight"-bashing threadjack going there! I read all 4 books in the space of 2 weeks on recommendation of a friend/ex-lover (thanks to BitTorrent), and just got disgusted with how badly written they were. If the last book had been one that I had been physically holding in my hands, I would've thrown it across the room. At least when I realized that the Eragon series was bad, it was because they were written by a guy who was a teenager at the time; Stephanie Meyer doesn't have the excuse to fall back on.

Oh, and BTW:
Chinchillazilla: Shishkani:
Honestly, they're worth reading just for the scene in the fourth one where a baby CHEWS ITS WAY OUT of its mom. The writing style changes completely and gets super graphic, and then when it's over it just goes back to normal. It's completely bizarre.

Yeah, THIS entirely. I love how Stephanie Meyer doesn't even write from Bella's perspective throughout most of the pregnancy/birth part of Breaking Dawn, because you just know that if she did, she'd accidentally reveal her own latent dissatisfaction with being a wife and mother at such an early age (because her church says she has to). But then again, doing that would imply that Meyer knows how to write subtext.

/hates Twilight
//loves GWAR
///Happily married 4 years now
////vampires don't farking sparkle

I hate cats; they'll only tolerate your presence if there's something in it for them. Just like women.

/joking
//or am I?
///sigh

ArgentCorvid: Legios: Be more confident only helps if you already have a half-decent level of confidence.

Yeah, someone once told me "Be more confident!" My reply was, "How? They don't exactly sell that shiat at Wal-Mart, you know."

Confidence is overrated. If you just sit at the bar and drink a few beers with friends the odds are girls will come over. Indifference often works just as well as confidence. Just be polite and be yourself. Then the only issue is what type of girl that will attract, but if you build up your confidence talking to cougars and idiots(there will probably be some really nice ones that walk up to you too), you may be able to initiate a conversation with a girl that is actually worth your time. Eventually if you can just be yourself and not care about getting occasionally shot down, you probably start doing a lot better than you might have expected. Obviously clean yourself up and don't look like a slob before you go out otherwise no matter how great a person you might be, no one will get close enough to find out.

/in the land of the skunks, the man with half a nose is king.

Jeff73
Goddamn it. I just went through dealing with my youngest brother doing this shiat and now you? If you think you might be interested in a woman and she isn't married, tell her. Hiding it and pretending to be 'friends' is respectful to neither her nor you. If she rejects you, get over it. there are 3 billion female humans. You will find another one. If she can't get over it and the friendship dies, she's a loser and you're better off without a friend like her.

good advice.

fark love. It's a sick, twisted lie created by DeBeers to sell diamonds. It doesn't happen to real people unless they're simply too oblivious to notice their eternal honey is farking their best friend.

Izunbacol: Just threw that in there because I somehow knew it would lead to at least a dozen sarcastic comments. Those farkers will find someone one day... or they won't. My marriage isn't perfect; like everyone, we have our moments, don't always see eye to eye, etc. But, if we're always changing a bit, day to day, and the person she is today is not exactly the same as the person she was yesterday, that means that every day we have a new opportunity, however small, to fall in love again.

Or, maybe we're both just lucky enough to be genetically programmed to stay in love. We had her folks watching the kids Fri night (they're visiting from out of state) and got out for a date night. Sitting there with her, 2500 miles away from where we met, was just as magical as 9 years ago, and I couldn't ask for anything more.

No BS here, you honestly sound like the sort of person who will indeed be in love with someone for the rest of your life. Kudos! You're extremely fortunate though. I can't tell you how many married women end up looking my way when their partner just cannot or will not give them something they need. I'm not particularly handsome or smart or funny either, I'm just there. Kinda soured me on the whole forever-love thing, if only a little bit.

TheNovacat: Owangotang: Scifientologist: I'd prefer to die alone with my cats. They are the only thing in my life that gives me unconditional love.

Everyone else has been a disappointment.

What is so great about unconditional love? Honestly, I've never understood it. If I go out and murder someone I hope to hell my family stops loving me because I'm a monster. I'm, of course, not saying you have ever done such things, I just wonder why we want love given so freely with no strings attached?

I mostly agree with you,
'Love given freely with no strings attached' sounds like a person would put up with ALL the idiosyncrasies of their partner. They would love their partner no matter what weird habits they have. They would have to be pretty placid and love-struck. Either that, or have the mental capacity of a golden retriever. In a relationship like that, the person is essentially a doormat and is does not completely understand or feel motivated to express how he/she really feels about his/her partner. This does not sound like a healthy relationship. Part of being in a relationship is improving one another. Having your partner point out your flaws is how you can improve yourself. You don't notice until somebody says something. As long as the changes are constructive, the relationship grows. In this sense, love is sort of conditional. But it's never black and white. It's a continuum. I can imagine if I went out and murdered someone, I would be knocked down a few 'love' pegs by my family.

Personally, I'm not to worried or whiny about the 'love'-thing, I've got plenty of years ahead to browse.

I suspected you might be female from your forum name. Then you said that and made it almost a certainty. So I checked your profile. Yup, a woman. No surprise, only women truly believe that nonsense.

News flash ladies. Men are not interested in having you point out their "flaws". They are not interested in your attempts to "improve" them. In short, they are not interested in having you do your level best to mould them into the fairy tale you think they should be.

All that romantic bullcrap you women are raised to believe is fiction, and no matter how hard you try, you have very little chance of making a man "grow" into your fantasy.

Furthermore, I have yet to have EVER met a woman who can take criticism as well as she dishes it out. Right guys, go ahead and try to "improve" your woman. Point out her flaws. See where that gets you.

alcohol > cats

This is stupid. They sampled me and the boyfriend a bunch of times - hardly representive of even 10%.

Jeff73: there are 3 billion female humans. You will find another one.

But only about 1.5 billion adult ones - a few of whom are too old for you. So, say 1 billion adult females 18-45. (I'm stretching it).

Did you want her to speak English?

Scifientologist: Furthermore, I have yet to have EVER met a woman who can take criticism as well as she dishes it out. Right guys, go ahead and try to "improve" your woman. Point out her flaws. See where that gets you.

werd

Wall Anchor: Izunbacol: /// just pissed off the 90+% of Farkers living in their moms' basements

Actually you just described my first marriage until the kids part, shortly after which she turned gay. Check in with her from time to time on just exactly what she is fantasizing about when she's getting hot under the covers. (What's really going through her mind while she's giving you that prostate massage?) I hope you don't get any unexpected surprises.

/planned to live happily forever after, within reason
//god is still laughing at me
///but I'm happier now

Well, since we both fantasize about having another girl in there, and build on the fantasies together, each adding details and letting the story go, I don't think I have any surprises awaiting.

/both down with the idea of a third "helper" in bed, but both a bit apprehensive about acting on it and sharing our experience with another party, with the possible emotional complications that might involve.

Toma mas: alcohol > cats

what about alcoholic cats?

darkanomaly: Legios: darkanomaly:
Some people don't get anything at all from one night stands. For me they're usually out of some form of self-hatred so they're not particularly fulfilling.
Sometimes a guy actually wants someone to date and not just fark.

I'm reading a lot of "It's easy to get laid" as a response to "I'm lonely".

/not picking your comment specifically, was just the easiest one to reply to.
//first day back at work, so brain is fried.. hopefully my point came across.

I was mainly joking with that comment as there was a lot of talk of one night stands. Anyways though, it's a shame it is so hard to find a meaningful relationship. I have a lot of awesome guy friends who have been single for a very long time while most of my girl friends have has numerous lasting relationships. I don't quite get that.

Simple, really... in modern society, as always, it is still the male of the species who puts it on the line and risks rejection. Rarely, if at all, does the female reciprocate in this type of social interaction. If I don't walk up and ask, I don't get, and I stay lonely. If you are female, and reasonably human, you simply have to exist where the men are, and one will try and introduce himself to you.

No effort required on your part.

Some women get more guy intros, some less, but not one of my female friends has gone more than three months that I've known them without finding someone to have sex with, either short or long term. Many guy dry spells last much longer than that.

Not griping, just trying to 'splain how the world is.

My parents were in that 10% too. And my sister in her second marriage. I thought I was a shoe in given those stats and fell for my 2nd one 110%. Oops, No soul mate = not yours.
No, I'm not skittish and afeard, so what if I'm cyber dating hansom lads who live in Finland?

/shaddap

Wall Anchor
Actually you just described my first marriage until the kids part, shortly after which she turned gay.

Ross? Is that you?

Magnanimous_J: CastorPimp: so cassanova what exactly did you do to turn your life around?

Two things, I spent some money on myself and quit thinking so much.

I bought some new clothes (that a stylish lady friend of mine picked out for me) and started going to a decent hair stylist. Sorry guys, supercuts won't do.

I moved into a better apartment that I wasn't embarrased to bring a woman home to.

The funny thing is, by spending more money which gave me better self confidence, I was able to land a much better job that paid way more.

I stopped worrying what people thought as much, so I spoke my mind more.

I asked out a lot of women and got shot down a lot. But some said yes, too.

I stopped thinking about "is she the one" and spent more time concentrating on the present.

And guess what? I now have a girlfriend that I could definitely see marrying.

So if I sound like a dick in these threads, its because I've been right there and know what its like to be moody and self pitying and pathetic.

All of your e-peen stroking makes me think you are still there.