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2008-12-29 08:05:37 PM
FTFA: "Dillard's has a tradition of being overly suspicious of young black males,"

But he stole $370 worth of stuff. How can you play the race card on this?
 
2008-12-29 08:12:18 PM
He shoplifted?

I see a long list of violent crimes in his future.
 
2008-12-29 08:12:47 PM
Epsilon: FTFA: "Dillard's has a tradition of being overly suspicious of young black males,"

But he stole $370 worth of stuff. How can you play the race card on this?


Blacks are never guilty of crimes. It is ALWAYS whitey's fault.
 
2008-12-29 08:13:36 PM
lordaction: Epsilon: FTFA: "Dillard's has a tradition of being overly suspicious of young black males,"

But he stole $370 worth of stuff. How can you play the race card on this?

Blacks are never guilty of crimes. It is ALWAYS whitey's fault.


He's only stealing because of the emotional trauma of the nooses beind hung on that tree several years ago. If it wasn't for that he'd probably be a doctor or a lawyer by now. It's really sad. :(
 
2008-12-29 08:23:52 PM
"I am predicting that once all the facts are established, he probably will not be guilty," Scott said. "There has been more put on this young man than anybody can bear - people trying to provoke him, trying to make him react.


Yeah. He was stopped with stolen merchandise. Clearly, he was provoked.
 
2008-12-29 09:04:31 PM
the jena six controversy was not so much about the character of the perpetrators but about institutionalized racism.
 
2008-12-29 09:38:58 PM
"If he was going to break the law, I believe he would have done it before."

This time he was caught.
 
2008-12-29 10:11:13 PM
mandingueiro: the jena six controversy was not so much about the character of the perpetrators but about institutionalized racism.

I'm still not sure how I feel about the whole thing.
 
2008-12-29 10:32:15 PM
I heard he gave up his quest for a Nobel Prize in Physics after the Jena 6 incident. How tragic.

This always farking happens: Some high-profile racial incident, and the victims do some fool crap that confirms every racially-tinged assumption on the lives of the vics.
 
2008-12-29 10:47:42 PM
mandingueiro: the jena six controversy was not so much about the character of the perpetrators but about institutionalized racism.

Just so we're clear, the institutionalized racism was all post event, not pre-event. Everything that supposedly happened before hand was either exaggerated, unrelated, or completely made up. The institutionalized racism came from the Jena 6 supporters, using race as an excuse for the unprovoked violent attack on their victim.
 
2008-12-29 10:51:38 PM
lajimi: "If he was going to break the law, I believe he would have done it before."

This time he was caught.


he was caught before too
 
2008-12-29 10:57:45 PM
sloppy shoes: I'm still not sure how I feel about the whole thing.

As a Southerner with many...MANY..ties to organized racism (relatives and such), let me say that mandingueiro is spot on. Of course, it became a complete circus that lost all grounding in reality, but at least it was a worthwhile cause that got attention.
 
2008-12-29 11:34:59 PM
NeauxFear:
As a Southerner with many...MANY..ties to organized racism (relatives and such), let me say that mandingueiro is spot on. Of course, it became a complete circus that lost all grounding in reality, but at least it was a worthwhile cause that got attention.


Link (new window)

That's a journalist from Jena writing about media myths of the Jena 6. If most of that link is true, it paints a very different picture than what was portrayed by many activists.

I guess what bothered me was that there were clearly 2 very different sides of the story, along with the media pressure to use racism to abdicate the six from all criminal persecution for their actions. Racism is wrong, unfounded, and frequently is a self-fulfilling prophecy; however, it does not justify all actions and outcomes.

Ughh...from my perspective I see fault on all sides. (Except for the victim, there doesn't appear to be a clear reason why he was targeted, which compounds the heinousness of the crime).
 
2008-12-30 12:42:36 AM
Oh fark. No comment.
 
2008-12-30 12:44:47 AM
Rev. Sharpie is mumsies on this because ...
well...
he's got a thing going on with that incident that has yet to be reported, but you can bet Whitey is keeping the headline suppressed for now.
 
2008-12-30 12:45:06 AM
now might be a good time to tell a joke i heard today; what is the difference between a pizza and a black man? a pizza can feed a family of four.

/ba-da psh!
 
2008-12-30 12:46:16 AM
mandingueiro: the jena six controversy was not so much about the character of the perpetrators but about institutionalized racism.

You wanna talk about racism? A group of 6 guys beat the living shait out of 1 guy. Who get's in trouble? The 1 guy. Who was praised as heros? The 6 who did the beating. The thing that comes close to explaining how this is possible is the fact that white are made to feel guilty about anything involving them and people of another race.
 
2008-12-30 12:46:31 AM
Gee, so a guy who was involved in the 6 on 1 beating of another guy might commit other crimes too?

Also
"Dillard's has a tradition of being overly suspicious of young black males," Scott said.


All young black males or just ones who were spotted Wednesday by store security after they placed $370 worth of merchandise in a Dillard's shopping bag.

Your defense is.... if my client wasn't being watched they wouldn't have caught him?
 
2008-12-30 12:47:13 AM
On the same page is a link to this article: http://thenewsstar.com/article/20081229/UPDATES01/81229044 (new window)

Kid tried to off himself and put an end to his gene pool.
 
2008-12-30 12:47:52 AM
It's hilarious that you can't even accuse the guy of committing a crime without the lawyer calling you racist.
 
2008-12-30 12:49:03 AM
Well... He tried to kill himself afterwards too...
 
2008-12-30 12:49:39 AM
Gah! I had successfully put this farce out of my mind. Every time I thought of it, I became enraged at the opportunism of and overall damage to the black community that these self-styled 'leaders' cause by cherry-picking battles that net the most amount of attention. As opposed to, you know, the real issues facing the community. Who has time for that?

It sucks when the ostensible 'advocates' are really nothing of the sort.

/run-on sentences ftw
 
2008-12-30 12:50:22 AM
taurusowner: mandingueiro: the jena six controversy was not so much about the character of the perpetrators but about institutionalized racism.

You wanna talk about racism? A group of 6 guys beat the living shait out of 1 guy. Who get's in trouble? The 1 guy. Who was praised as heros? The 6 who did the beating. The thing that comes close to explaining how this is possible is the fact that white are made to feel guilty about anything involving them and people of another race.


I had no problem with the Jena Six being charged. They did the crime, what I had a problem was the initial charge of attempted murder. If the DA had just charged then with assault to begin with it probabaley would have never been a big deal.
 
2008-12-30 12:50:42 AM
taurusowner: mandingueiro: the jena six controversy was not so much about the character of the perpetrators but about institutionalized racism.

You wanna talk about racism? A group of 6 guys beat the living shait out of 1 guy. Who get's in trouble? The 1 guy. Who was praised as heros? The 6 who did the beating. The thing that comes close to explaining how this is possible is the fact that white are made to feel guilty about anything involving them and people of another race.


This.

/My first and only This.
 
2008-12-30 12:51:22 AM
oooh this is going to get good
anyone want some popcorn??
 
2008-12-30 12:51:28 AM
Hmmm. Maybe I should have used the black courtesy phone.
 
2008-12-30 12:52:16 AM
THAT'S RACIST
 
2008-12-30 12:53:17 AM
Whatever "Dillard's", if that is your real name. Or should I call you "Hess's", or would you prefer "Leggett's"? You can't hide from me you f*cking racist department store.
 
2008-12-30 12:54:03 AM
I didn't see any mention of it in the article, but I'm assuming 5 of them didn't get caught shoplifting, if that matters...
 
2008-12-30 12:54:07 AM
The thing that bothers me the most is that the defendant and his attorney are smiling like Nipsey Russell. One would think that the seriousness of the situation would merit something other than "I just came out of a Chris Rock concert" face.

And on another related rant . . . I remember when people were accused of a crime and did the "perp walk" from the police car to the courthouse and they covered their head with a jacket or their hands or otherwise tried to hide their face. Now, they mug for the camera like it is their ticket to a reality show. Get off my lawn.
 
2008-12-30 12:54:22 AM
$370 theft from Dillards?

That's a lot of Godiva...
 
2008-12-30 12:54:51 AM
taurusowner: You wanna talk about racism? A group of 6 guys beat the living shait out of 1 guy. Who get's in trouble? The 1 guy. Who was praised as heros? The 6 who did the beating. The thing that comes close to explaining how this is possible is the fact that white are made to feel guilty about anything involving them and people of another race.

Who said anything about Rodney King?
 
2008-12-30 12:55:12 AM
Epsilon: FTFA: "Dillard's has a tradition of being overly suspicious of young black males,"

But he stole $370 worth of stuff. How can you play the race card on this?


Dillards intentionally lets White kids get away with boosting merchandise. That's discriminatory.
 
2008-12-30 12:58:48 AM
none of this explains the shunned FOB students who show up at a US school...barely speaking english, practically spit on even by those of the same race who were US born.....then get into UC Berkeley or Stanford or Rutgers or Harvard or........
 
2008-12-30 01:01:08 AM
FTFA: "If he was going to break the law, I believe he would have done it before."

Hmm.... *scrolls up*

Also FTFA: Bell was arrested less than one month after he completed a sentence for his role in the beating of a fellow classmate, Justin Barker, at Jena High School in 2006.

Uhhhh... I must be missing something.
 
2008-12-30 01:02:32 AM
where are the race card pics?
 
2008-12-30 01:04:30 AM
Epsilon: FTFA: "Dillard's has a tradition of being overly suspicious of young black males,"

But he stole $370 worth of stuff. How can you play the race card on this?


Because he's black and that is what people like Sharpton and Jackson have taught him to do...
 
2008-12-30 01:06:05 AM
i182.photobucket.com
 
2008-12-30 01:06:48 AM
TheBigBadCrystallineEntity: where are the race card pics?

sableverity.files.wordpress.com
 
2008-12-30 01:07:57 AM
Icejingles: Well... He tried to kill himself afterwards too...

He shot himself in the chest with a .22? Pretty half-assed suicide attempt.
 
2008-12-30 01:08:15 AM
Black cops.
 
2008-12-30 01:08:33 AM
I hope they don't start hanging nooses at Dillards
 
2008-12-30 01:08:38 AM
Louis Scott who has represented Bell in the past said that preconceived notions on the part of Dillard's employees may have played a role in Bell's arrest.

The correct way to battle racist stereotyping is TO NOT FARKING LIVE UP TO THE RACIST STEREOTYPE! Arguing that he was followed because he was black, which is bad, does not excuse stealing merchandise, which is also bad.
 
2008-12-30 01:09:25 AM
Golden_Eternity: He shot himself in the chest with a .22? Pretty half-assed suicide attempt.

It's not a BB gun. Hit the right place and you can put yourself out pretty well.
 
2008-12-30 01:09:50 AM
Jena Six made me click hoping for some bad 80's robot porn. Leaves disseminated.
 
2008-12-30 01:11:08 AM
A .22 will kill you just as dead as anything else.
 
2008-12-30 01:13:23 AM
Blinxs: taurusowner: mandingueiro: the jena six controversy was not so much about the character of the perpetrators but about institutionalized racism.

You wanna talk about racism? A group of 6 guys beat the living shait out of 1 guy. Who get's in trouble? The 1 guy. Who was praised as heros? The 6 who did the beating. The thing that comes close to explaining how this is possible is the fact that white are made to feel guilty about anything involving them and people of another race.

I had no problem with the Jena Six being charged. They did the crime, what I had a problem was the initial charge of attempted murder. If the DA had just charged then with assault to begin with it probabaley would have never been a big deal.


Disparity of force. In a legal sense, 6 on 1 can be, and in fact routinely is, considered presentation of lethal force, and by proxy, the use of that force can be construed as attempted murder. Simply being armed isn't the only thing that is considered legally lethal force. Things like size of the attacker vs the size of the victim, and also number of attackers are also considered. A 6 on 1 beat down is a very very dangerous situation, much more so than a 1 on 1 fight.

If they were all white, the attempted murder charge wouldn't have raised a single eyebrow. If they were all white and were adults, and if the victim would have defended himself with a handgun, he likely would NOT have been charged with anything as the disparity of force through numbers is seen by nearly all law enforcement as warranting the presentation and use of deadly force by the victim.

But they weren't all white. And race profiteers like Sharpton effectively used this to get people riled up about the wrong aspect of the case. The fact that one kid had his life threatened by a gang of criminals was washed aside in favor of making this another instance of milking $$$ and sympathy from white people who still feel guilty about past racism towards blacks.

There really are times when cries of racism apply. This wasn't one of them. And Sharpton didn't care. He wanted the cash, and guilting whites into handing it over is his game.
 
2008-12-30 01:13:27 AM
PoopStain: It's not a BB gun. Hit the right place and you can put yourself out pretty well.

FT other FA (new window): Sgt. Cassandra Wooten said Bell apparently shot himself in the chest about 7:40 p.m. at his home with a .22 calibre weapon. She described his injury not life-threatening.

I stand by my previous statement.
 
2008-12-30 01:15:08 AM
As I recall the Jena 6 have been debunked and nothing in Jena, La. happened the way all the black people at work told me it happened. Jesus, that's all I heard for a week around here. Jena 6 this. Jena 6 that. This is from folks who still believe OJ was innocent.
 
2008-12-30 01:16:22 AM
Mitch Mitchell: Jena Six made me click hoping for some bad 80's robot porn. Leaves disseminated.

Jenna Sixx - in hot '80s action with 'well hung' Mychal Baller.

/I know, I know... I wouldn't say it to his face.
 
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