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2008-12-26 08:23:51 PM  
Link is busted?
 
2008-12-26 08:24:34 PM  
Secular Satanist: RTFA he got the house and the dog. He also had 17 grand taped to his leg. He wasn't hurting. And even if he was fark him he was a miserable POS who did a horrible thing. How anyone could justify what he did is beyond me. His life wasn't ruined. Set back yeah, ruined no. He was a worthless little shiat who took the coward's way out. This guy was clearly farked in the head, divorce or not. He is not the victim here. And fark all you middle class white guys who want to play the victim and pretend the world is against you. No is oppressing you. No one is out to get you. STFU and GBTW you whiny buncha pussys. If you were half as tough as you pretend to be on teh intarwebs, you wouldn't let a divorce destroy you. Move on. Be tough. You lost it all, well you've got every chance to make it back.


I'M FREAKING OUT OMG I'M FREAKING OUT
 
2008-12-26 08:24:57 PM  
Secular Satanist: And fark all you middle class white guys who want to play the victim and pretend the world is against you.

Help, I'm being oppressed!

/Was the dog OK?
 
2008-12-26 08:25:27 PM  
ok, maybe a little...
 
2008-12-26 08:25:34 PM  
phelixcubed: You must not know any Filipinos. Bong is pronounced "bohng" and is not an uncommon name.

/Has a cousin named Bong


When your aunt smacks her kid around, is she doing bong hits?
 
2008-12-26 08:25:59 PM  
magical_mystery_meat: I'm betting he just shot at the body in the door and didn't realize it was an 8-year old.

Of course that's no excuse for such evil acts, but if you've never been completely off the hinge before, you wouldn't understand. I know most people haven't and they like it that way, but from the other side this isn't all that black and white.


My understanding is that was his 1st act of violence. 8 yr olds (3rd - 4th graders) tend to be in the 3' 6" to maybe 4' 6" height range {belt (& gun)level for a man}. The 8 year old probably thought it was Santa. 8 yr olds usually aren't quiet about things like that.

My take is that he knew he was shooting a child. The only thing it explains is why she was shot in the face.
 
2008-12-26 08:26:41 PM  
fragMasterFlash: "An 8-year-old girl ran to the door to answer Pardo's knock, police said. He shot her in the face, stepped into the house and began to fire indiscriminately with a semiautomatic handgun."

Can we turn off the Internet for 60 seconds and have a moment of WTF?


Agreed.

Glad she didn't die - I don't think - but she's going to have PTSD damn near every Christmas for the rest of her life now.

Poor girl.
 
2008-12-26 08:26:51 PM  
chetbango: He got the farking house.

Did he own the house before they got married? If they bought a house together after they were married, then fine - sell it and split the profit. But if it was his house before the marriage, I don't see why she should get anything more than half of the equity accrued since the day they were married.

So a man buys a house and later marries a girl. But he should be happy to pay $1800/month to her so he can keep the house that was always his? That's American fairness for you.

BTW, engineers don't make as much as you think. I know home improvement contractors who make twice what my engineers friends do.

I don't see why all you farkers ignore the fact that this man was motivated to kill those people. The most likely motivator was the circumstances surrounding his divorce. Ignoring it won't teach anyone anything.
 
2008-12-26 08:27:28 PM  
beer4breakfast: studebaker hoch: Never use gasoline to set a fire. Use kerosene instead, it burns just as well and doesn't have the explosive vapors.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gm6-_k-0T2iGWVOGoVqXVg8I4HogD 9 5ANU400

The guy used 'racing fuel', which I would summarize might mean he used nitromethane.


Nitromethane is usually only used in 8000 HP top fuel cars that run for about 4 seconds at a time over the quarter mile and it's not something you buy from just any joint with a pump.

Racing fuel can be anything from high octane pump gas or airplane fuel (not Jet A, which is kerosene)
 
2008-12-26 08:27:53 PM  
Police say they found $17,000 strapped to the leg of Bruce Jeffrey Pardo and a plane ticket for a December 25th flight departing from LAX to Canada.

was that the downtown Canada airport, or the international?

/idiots
 
2008-12-26 08:28:38 PM  
This is much sadder than the brain tumour kid who wanted to be a chaplain in the military. Hell, that was a happy ending compared to this.

But there is way more snark here for an 8-year old girl who opened the door.

You make no sense, Fark.
 
2008-12-26 08:29:28 PM  
Mr_Ectomy: was that the downtown Canada airport, or the international?

I needed that.

Thanks : )
 
2008-12-26 08:30:21 PM  
Flame thrower shooting gallery at Burning Man 2008

Flame throwers are NOT illegal. If they were, plastic bottles of charcoal starter wouldn't be sold in stores.
 
2008-12-26 08:31:02 PM  
Criminals are made, not born.
 
2008-12-26 08:32:41 PM  
The guy is a douche, and I hope he's screaming in hell right now.

But the only thing that can fill a fella with that much rage is a woman.
And apparently she did it in spades.

She took his f*cking dog, man.

sheesh
 
2008-12-26 08:32:55 PM  
bunner: beer4breakfast: studebaker hoch: Never use gasoline to set a fire. Use kerosene instead, it burns just as well and doesn't have the explosive vapors.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gm6-_k-0T2iGWVOGoVqXVg8I4HogD 9 5ANU400

The guy used 'racing fuel', which I would summarize might mean he used nitromethane.

Nitromethane is usually only used in 8000 HP top fuel cars that run for about 4 seconds at a time over the quarter mile and it's not something you buy from just any joint with a pump.

Racing fuel can be anything from high octane pump gas or airplane fuel (not Jet A, which is kerosene)


I thought you could buy nitromethane for some of those RC kit cars.
 
2008-12-26 08:34:49 PM  
buffalosoldier: You take eveerything a man has worked to get his whole life, how do you expect him to react?

I mean, Farking christ, she got the kids, fine, the house, fine the ring, fine, 10 grand? fine... but the farking dog too? Burn, baby, Burn.


Both of my ex-wives got the dog.

/Biatches
 
2008-12-26 08:35:00 PM  
beer4breakfast: bunner: beer4breakfast: studebaker hoch: Never use gasoline to set a fire. Use kerosene instead, it burns just as well and doesn't have the explosive vapors.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gm6-_k-0T2iGWVOGoVqXVg8I4HogD 9 5ANU400

The guy used 'racing fuel', which I would summarize might mean he used nitromethane.

Nitromethane is usually only used in 8000 HP top fuel cars that run for about 4 seconds at a time over the quarter mile and it's not something you buy from just any joint with a pump.

Racing fuel can be anything from high octane pump gas or airplane fuel (not Jet A, which is kerosene)

I thought you could buy nitromethane for some of those RC kit cars.


You can, I have a gallon of alcohol + 20% nitromethane in the shed. Hmmmm, anyone know where I can find some plans for a flamethrower?
 
2008-12-26 08:43:08 PM  
bunner: Mr_Ectomy: was that the downtown Canada airport, or the international?

I needed that.

Thanks : )


No problem. I just want to know if that nutjorb was headed my way, that's all.
 
2008-12-26 08:43:21 PM  
montex: chetbango: He got the farking house.

Did he own the house before they got married? If they bought a house together after they were married, then fine - sell it and split the profit. But if it was his house before the marriage, I don't see why she should get anything more than half of the equity accrued since the day they were married.

So a man buys a house and later marries a girl. But he should be happy to pay $1800/month to her so he can keep the house that was always his? That's American fairness for you.

BTW, engineers don't make as much as you think. I know home improvement contractors who make twice what my engineers friends do.

I don't see why all you farkers ignore the fact that this man was motivated to kill those people. The most likely motivator was the circumstances surrounding his divorce. Ignoring it won't teach anyone anything.


And what will people learn by sticking up for a mass murderer? Let's review: the guy didn't "have as much as you think," he just had $17,000 in cash and an escape ticket. And she only asked for support until she could get more hours at her job, or get a new one.

Oh, and the sweet, martyred man? He had a handicapped kid that he wasn't supporting, but was writing off on his taxes. Per Newsday story. (new window)Sorry, the motivation was that he was a skunk. And we won't learn anything by sticking up for him.
 
2008-12-26 08:45:50 PM  
boobsrgood: tinyarena: "Death is too good for him."

Got the ceiling projector and surround sound all hooked, and thanks to sewiusproductions, I know what to watch tonight. Mmmm...perfect cartoon boobies.

And the quote actually goes:



"Hangin's too good for him! Burnin's too good for him! He should be torn into itsy bitsy pieces and buried alive!"

Indeed.


Actually,,
I was reffering more to this:

"Counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor... Death's too good for them!"

/but yours is good
 
2008-12-26 08:57:08 PM  
ciocia: And what will people learn by sticking up for a mass murderer?

Nobody is sticking up for him. Everyone agrees, he is a turd. Nobody came to this thread looking for an education.

And she only asked for support until she could get more hours at her job, or get a new one.

This is what so many men have a problem with, alimony. Especially almost $1800 a month to a woman who he been married to for about 2 years. Complete and utter bullshiat. I think the comments that have offended you reflect men's frustration with alimony.

i43.photobucket.com

/"When I realized that I am pretty much as big an asshole as everyone who ever pissed me off on Fark."
 
2008-12-26 08:59:22 PM  
I feel for the engineer.
 
2008-12-26 08:59:48 PM  
Beautiful downtown Canada
The moose are mostly tame
We've got some tall ass buildings
and snow and fish and game

Beautiful downtown Canada
The igloos all have TeeVee
Beautiful downtown Canada
That's where I'd like to be

sorry, the whole "downtown Canada" thing made me laugh my ass off and I really need that after reading this.

Cause, see.. it's a whole country..
 
2008-12-26 08:59:52 PM  
so, basically you can add these 9 to Bush's body count. His economy, his responsibility.
 
2008-12-26 09:03:14 PM  
bunner: Cause, see.. it's a whole country..

somebody should tell Sarah Palin that!

/zing
 
2008-12-26 09:03:17 PM  
Billy McGoodGuy: so, basically you can add these 9 to Bush's body count. His economy, his responsibility.

Bush is a gasbag and a criminal.

But that.. sorry, that's.. that's no better then the schmoes trash talking Obama, who doesn't even have the job, yet, when some schoolkid gets coddled or a welfare cheat gets popped.
 
2008-12-26 09:05:30 PM  
spickus: ciocia: And what will people learn by sticking up for a mass murderer?

Nobody is sticking up for him. Everyone agrees, he is a turd. Nobody came to this thread looking for an education.

And she only asked for support until she could get more hours at her job, or get a new one.

This is what so many men have a problem with, alimony. Especially almost $1800 a month to a woman who he been married to for about 2 years. Complete and utter bullshiat. I think the comments that have offended you reflect men's frustration with alimony.


O.K., perhaps you totally overlooked the posting I was responding to, which was attached to my remarks? The one by Montex? Where he pleaded that we understand the motivations of the mass murderer? I might be a big asshole, but I bother to read the whole post that I am responding to.
 
2008-12-26 09:06:25 PM  
Billy McGoodGuy: so, basically you can add these 9 to Bush's body count. His economy, his responsibility.

I hear he sold the killer the petroleum based fuel for his flame thrower.
 
2008-12-26 09:07:05 PM  
Satanic_Hamster: They should do a national add campaign stating:
If you feel the need to kill a bunch of people then yourself, skip to the killing yourself part.
No one, in the history of the US, has ever said "Man, that guy was right. He was wronged by those people and he showed them."


You have missed this guys cheerleaders here on FARK. We have stumbled upon a rich vein of Domestic Violence fans who, if they ever do meet a girl, are prepared hold her at gunpoint 24/7 so she knows whose boss. Seriously, some of you guys are making me ill with this ITG shiat.
How do you know what went on in this short marriage? Maybe he beat her and her kids, maybe the dog was hers before they met. Maybe this man, who is obviously capable of planned ultra-violence, was a total psycho while they were together, or changed into a controlling jerk after they got married. You have cheered the attempted murder of a little girl and the actual murder of her extended family because of some patchy information from the local media (because we all know how accurate THEY are).

My moms friend when I was little was a single mom, who met a guy and got married. My mom and I were in the wedding. The next day, as we were helping her pack up her apartment to move in with him, he flipped out and attacked her and my mom in front of 4 kids. I can still see him pushing my mom up the wall by her neck and her feet coming 6 inches off the ground. And hear him bashing his new brides head into the kitchen counter as the adults tried to pull him off. He had been a perfect gentleman up to that moment.

/some guys are farking psycho and good at hiding it until it is too late.
 
2008-12-26 09:07:47 PM  
If this guy was going to skip the country, why did he pick a flight to Canada instead of a drive to Tijuana?
 
2008-12-26 09:07:48 PM  
rufus-t-firefly: a car rented in Pardo's name was left in front of his brother's house in Sylmar loaded with 300 rounds of ammunition and a pipe bomb. All of that exploded when bomb squad technicians detonated an incendiary device in the vehicle

FAIL.

"Well, here's an incendiary device. Let's blow it up, since there's no way he put a pipe bomb or any other explosive devices in here."

/Bomb Squad FAIL > regular FAIL


-------------------

more info:

Late Thursday, a rented car parked outside the property was discovered to be loaded with 300 rounds of ammunition and a pipe bomb. The car burst into flames as bomb disposal experts moved in, Raney said.

Pardo had rigged a sophisticated booby trap inside the car which would be triggered when officers attempted to move his discarded Santa Claus suit.

"He basically wired the Santa Claus suit with a device to explode," Raney said. "When it was lifted from the car it would pull a trip wire or switch, ignite a flare inside the car igniting black powder and several hundred rounds of ammunition was inside the car.

"While the squad was rendering the device it did activate and the car did burst into flames and was destroyed."
 
2008-12-26 09:09:25 PM  
shower_in_my_socks: I am a relatively sane person, but if I was middle-aged and my ex-wife took away my house, my kids, my dog and my life-farking-savings, and THEN I lost my job and fell behind on paying her EVEN MORE #!@$ money, I would completely lose my shiat, too -- completely and totally and my thoughts, while not mass-murder level, would definitely wander into homicide territory, for sure. And I consider myself pretty normal.

What do the courts who award shiat like this in divorces THINK it's going to do to the losing side? You *literally* RUIN A MAN'S LIFE and you don't think he's going to crack?


You are not normal. Otherwise murder would be normal in divorces. Man-up Nancy, you are stronger than that.
 
2008-12-26 09:09:43 PM  
Moses To Sandy Koufax: In divorce proceedings, I understand why women get almost every penny, the kids, the cars, the houses, and every asset, save for the 35 cents the court awards the man so he can afford to call someone who gives a damn, but why, in the name of Gérard Xavier Marcel Depardieu, do the women always get the dogs?


The relationship and connection that women (think they) have with their children is the same connection between a man and his four legged best friend. You can have everything else, but for fark's sake, you can't have the dog. No wonder marriage rates are falling.


Oh, and we're sorry Mr. Pardo; I know that you lost your job, but that doesn't mean you get to stop paying your wife's alimony. After all, you guys were married for damn near two years; you just can't expect her to downgrade the lifestyle she had been used to for so long.

/ shooting the 8 year was cold-blooded and completely unnecessary
// you should've shot your wife instead


EPIC snark.

And, yeah, biatch should die.
/least I got the apartment
//and we still talk
///and she didn'6t ask for money... until a year later... then rescinded

Life_Leeching_Cubicle:
www.huffingtonpost.com
/approves
//link is hotter than a blazing house fire
///too soon?

www.afunnystuff.com

autothing: For those religious goofs who think this guy is going to hell...

If hell is a place for bad people, don't killers like Mr. Pardo WANT to go to hell? It's an eternal vacation destination!


I'm goin to Hell, in a handbasket.
And I'll have good company too.
'Cause If I was so bad, than there's no need to be sad.
'Cause everybody else will be there too (Including You).

ciocia: Moses To Sandy Koufax: ciocia: Didn't RTFA, read some other ones. After he lost his job, they waived the maintenance. The ten grand and the dog was what she pretty much got, total. And how much about this divorce do you know to figure he should have shot the wife?

Dear Ciocia:

It appears that you have gotten lost on the information superhighway. You accidentally took the "dark comedy" exit, when what you really wanted was the "uptight with no sense of humor" offramp.

Everybody's definition of humor is different. Mine doesn't include 9 fresh bodies, but to each his own.


That's my definition of sexy.

phartlick: he must have been pretty miserable for those last few minutes.

Just... wow. Yeah.


captivity: queezyweezel: captivity: My overactive conspiracy-theorizing imagination wonders if the 8 year old was his former step-daughter who had something choice to say to him when she opened the door.

And he just happened to have the guns and flamethrower with him? Right.....

i'm not saying she was the inspiration, i'm just thinking of all the rotten 8-year olds that are out there giving their parents hell in shopping malls on a day-to-day basis. Imagine this maniac, already armed to kill, being confronted with a smart-mouthed brat. Head shot indeed.

On a sort of side note, shouldn't the media be calling this a 'Holiday Massacre,' or something catchy like that?

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2008-12-26 09:11:58 PM  
I'm sorry. It's a very pitiful situation. But, at least he spared the state from a million dollar trial and millions spent in incarceration.
 
2008-12-26 09:12:43 PM  
ciocia: I might be a big asshole, but I bother to read the whole post that I am responding to.

Don't sell yourself short, you are an asshole and I apparently don't read bother to read entire posts to which I'm replying. I responded as I did because you've been railing throughout the thread. Relax, it's Fark and he's likely trolling.

/I'll be over here, lightening up a bit.
//Call me Francis.
 
2008-12-26 09:13:25 PM  
montex: chetbango: He got the farking house.

Did he own the house before they got married? If they bought a house together after they were married, then fine - sell it and split the profit. But if it was his house before the marriage, I don't see why she should get anything more than half of the equity accrued since the day they were married.

So a man buys a house and later marries a girl. But he should be happy to pay $1800/month to her so he can keep the house that was always his? That's American fairness for you.

BTW, engineers don't make as much as you think. I know home improvement contractors who make twice what my engineers friends do.

I don't see why all you farkers ignore the fact that this man was motivated to kill those people. The most likely motivator was the circumstances surrounding his divorce. Ignoring it won't teach anyone anything.


Ignoring it is one thing, however, it is hardly relevant to committing multiple murders. Sorry, I don't care how screwed over you get in a divorce. Deal with it, life is unfair, be a farking man and continue to be a good person. I can pretty much guarantee this guy was a dick as a husband, and probably a dick most his life. Normal, well-adjusted people don't do this sort of thing, it is irrational. Rational discussion is kinda impossible about his motives or the validity of his actions.
 
2008-12-26 09:14:49 PM  
chetbango: You are not normal. Otherwise murder would be normal in divorces. Man-up Nancy, you are stronger than that.

Perhaps.

But on behalf of all the men who got shafted in a divorce, myself, oddly, not one of them... to the "man up, Nancy" crowd,

PAY MY F*CKING BILLS.

Thank you.
 
2008-12-26 09:15:26 PM  
Here's the deal, guys. If you marry a woman who makes a ton more money than you do, you can get alimony, too. Just because the statistics are heavily skewed toward the husband being the major breadwinner doesn't mean that a highly-compensated woman can't end up paying alimony and huge amounts of child support when she divorces her stay-at-home husband.
Lack of pay trumps lack of penis in the court system, believe it or not.
 
2008-12-26 09:17:22 PM  
Just said on the news this guy had even MORE ammo in some kind of saran-wrap girdle wrapped around his legs and body. Divorce or not, he was stark raving nuts, and wanted to go out with, well, a bang. And a bang-bang-bang-bang-bang, evidently.

I mean, there is pissed off, and there is "made it ma! Top of the world!" psycho crazy.
 
2008-12-26 09:18:20 PM  
img291.imageshack.us
 
2008-12-26 09:19:34 PM  
All things considered, were I to marry, again, I would probably just want a woman who would put her arms around me at night and say7 "I love you, I missed you, I'm glad you're home" as opposed to banging out a bunch of fiscal logistics about who will get screwed less when the slashing starts.

/rather skip the slashing
//rather skip the bullshiat gender acrimony
///rather live with a woman who loves me, too.
 
2008-12-26 09:22:00 PM  
Gyrfalcon: I mean, there is pissed off, and there is "made it ma! Top of the world!" psycho crazy.

and that's what this guy was selling.

Full tilt, over the edge, "How many shots can I squeeze off before the cops turn me into a Pollock painting", stone cold batsnot.
 
2008-12-26 09:24:39 PM  
Don't mess with a mans dog.

I like the article on the side
"Doc Busted for Using Human Fat to Fuel Cars"
 
2008-12-26 09:27:28 PM  
spickus: ciocia: I might be a big asshole, but I bother to read the whole post that I am responding to.

Don't sell yourself short, you are an asshole and I apparently don't read bother to read entire posts to which I'm replying. I responded as I did because you've been railing throughout the thread. Relax, it's Fark and he's likely trolling.

/I'll be over here, lightening up a bit.
//Call me Francis.


Does this mean we gotta hold hands and sing Kumbaya or something?
 
2008-12-26 09:31:14 PM  
SockMonkeyHolocaust: MAybe this tale would have had a different ending if the eight and 16 year olds could have fired back.

If you care about your children, you must arm them.
 
2008-12-26 09:31:47 PM  
bunner: All things considered, were I to marry, again, I would probably just want a woman who could put her arms around me at night and say7 "I love you, I missed you, I'm glad you're home"

You sound fat.
 
2008-12-26 09:31:50 PM  
weaselette: Here's the deal, guys. If you marry a woman who makes a ton more money than you do, you can get alimony, too. Just because the statistics are heavily skewed toward the husband being the major breadwinner doesn't mean that a highly-compensated woman can't end up paying alimony and huge amounts of child support when she divorces her stay-at-home husband.
Lack of pay trumps lack of penis in the court system, believe it or not.


Listen to the women ordered to pay alimony whine just like men. "Why the courts don't tell a husband, who has been living off his wife, to go out and get a job is beyond my comprehension," Joan Lunden, the television personality, said in 1992 when a court ordered her to pay her ex-husband $18,000 a month.

Again, killer Santa is a piece of shiat and nothing justifies his actions.
Again, alimony is bullshiat for either sex.
 
2008-12-26 09:35:09 PM  
weaselette: Here's the deal, guys. If you marry a woman who makes a ton more money than you do, you can get alimony, too. Just because the statistics are heavily skewed toward the husband being the major breadwinner number of P.O.'ed men doesn't mean that a one or two in the world highly-compensated woman can't end up paying alimony and huge amounts of child support when she divorces her stay-at-home fantasy husband.
Lack of pay trumps lack of penis in the court system, believe it or not.


FTFY

/Mostly snark... But those stats you refer to still cover a lot of men and not near as many women in the USA.
 
2008-12-26 09:36:51 PM  
ciocia: Does this mean we gotta hold hands and sing Kumbaya or something?

This doesn't mean we're gonna be swapping spit in the shower.

;)
 
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