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(Yahoo)   IT guru turned whistleblower Michael Connell had to abandon at least two flights in the past two months because of suspicious problems with his plane, had demanded federal protection but was turned down   (news.yahoo.com ) divider line 296
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2008-12-21 05:12:28 PM  
"They don't investigate themselves in this
country - it would be a whitewash, it would be like the Kennedy
thing, it would be like everything."

- George Carlin
Comedian
 
2008-12-21 05:14:56 PM  

HowlingFrog: You must have me confused with Jeff/Johnny Gannon/Grolsch.


Are those, like, characters in a TeeVee show, or some shiat?

It's odd how often the smirking blowhards - who dismiss every obvious smelly crock a shiat as roses and the people who smell shiat instead of roses as mentally unstable - base their haughty wit on stuff that fiction writers make up, so I had to ask.
 
2008-12-21 05:15:15 PM  
Its scary how many people in here I consider pretty smrt that are buying into this BS.

Oh well. When you guys get this case solved let me know who killed john denver and the rich dude who became coyote poop a few months ago. I hear they were enemies of the state too.

I read it on the intranets.
 
2008-12-21 05:18:23 PM  

log_jammin: Oh well. When you guys get this case solved let me know who killed john denver and the rich dude who became coyote poop a few months ago. I hear they were enemies of the state too.


Yeah cause if somebody smells a rat, they're obviously saying that we never landed on the moon and FBI whacked a mediocre pop singer.

Yeesh.

You guys ever get tired of carrying water for people when there's no bottom in the bucket?
 
2008-12-21 05:18:24 PM  

Nocens: I sure as hell wouldn't get on a plane with that guy behind the yoke.


216.231.173.166

/I wanted the album cover with the skeleton flying the WW II aircraft.
 
2008-12-21 05:18:29 PM  
The FAA investigates pretty much every fatal air crash...no?

http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/Query.asp
 
2008-12-21 05:21:42 PM  
It's always fun to play 'Find the Shills' on forums. The scary part is when you first realize they exist.

They're usually the guy who acts like he makes the most sense, but doesn't make any arguing against facts, with plenty of name calling to slander people getting too close to the truth.
 
2008-12-21 05:24:21 PM  

nanofreak: You so could have gone for the Clinton body count, and been more respected than going for 9/11, you retard.


Clinton family body count is just like the Bush families, they're MASSIVE. Do you really want to do all that work?
 
2008-12-21 05:26:54 PM  

veryequiped: It's always fun to play 'Find the Shills' on forums. The scary part is when you first realize they exist.

They're usually the guy who acts like he makes the most sense, but doesn't make any arguing against facts, with plenty of name calling to slander people getting too close to the truth.


Remember how they used to, back in Russia, like, if anybody said anything bad about the crap the Poitburo or the KGB puled, they were called crazy, and they were shipped off to gulags and people would smile and congratulate each other that the great Soviet had rounded up the obviously wahcko, misinformed people who would try and subver the glorious, perfect state with their malicious lies and emotional instability?

Boy, them Russians were bad.

Enemies of freedom. Reagan said so.
 
2008-12-21 05:27:17 PM  
I like how thinking a plane crash is justa plane crash makes someone a shill or "carries a bucket" for an administration.

You guys are doing the same BS they did to clinton.
 
2008-12-21 05:30:03 PM  

log_jammin: I like how thinking a plane crash is justa plane crash makes someone a shill or "carries a bucket" for an administration.

You guys are doing the same BS they did to clinton.


In case you run out.

blurbomat.com
 
2008-12-21 05:32:03 PM  
bunner: Are those, like, characters in a TeeVee show, or some shiat?

You're joking, right?

Jeff Gannon. Look it up.
 
2008-12-21 05:32:53 PM  
I won't run out. There's plenty here in the gulag where I was sent for telling the trooth!
 
2008-12-21 05:32:57 PM  
From the "Velvet Revolution" site:

www.velvetrevolution.us

I guess nobody there looks at their own site.

/worse than Christmas lights in March.
 
2008-12-21 05:37:58 PM  
bunner: It's odd how often the smirking blowhards - who dismiss every obvious smelly crock a shiat as roses and the people who smell shiat instead of roses as mentally unstable - base their haughty wit on stuff that fiction writers make up, so I had to ask.

And it's hilarious to watch how long it takes somebody to realize that they're arguing with their own team member. :P
 
2008-12-21 05:38:25 PM  
nolanvoid
TheOther: KyngNothing: At that point I would probably start taking the train...

...or, at least, quit flying easily-sabotaged little planes. If he was fearful, why did he keep putting himself in the same dangerous situation?


i40.tinypic.com

 
2008-12-21 05:39:12 PM  

HowlingFrog: bunner: Are those, like, characters in a TeeVee show, or some shiat?

You're joking, right?

Jeff Gannon. Look it up.


I tried. They hackneyed parsing of the names you posted made it not come up.

he's a soft shoe reporter.

Whoopysnorp.

I don't give a shiat about red, blue, your guys, their guys, last week, a guy who hasn't been in office for almost nine years or aqny of that endless stream of talking point yahoo, "see here my good man" horseshiat.

This stinks.

Period. We've all seen the neocon dog and pony show and it's about as relevant as a puddle of piss an hour after last call. If this went down without the people in question being connected to this guy, it's be page one. The feds would be sniffing out clues and putting RICO act gags on everybody this guy ever shook hands with. And all the harrumphing dipwads with their aluminum foil .jpgs know it. A man died. And it's fishier than a shrimp boat. Your need to ignore that is of no concern to me.
 
2008-12-21 05:39:23 PM  
So a non-profit agency with an agenda that uses inductive reasoning to prove its point gets posted on fark?

/I put my foil hat on
 
2008-12-21 05:40:08 PM  

HowlingFrog: bunner: It's odd how often the smirking blowhards - who dismiss every obvious smelly crock a shiat as roses and the people who smell shiat instead of roses as mentally unstable - base their haughty wit on stuff that fiction writers make up, so I had to ask.

And it's hilarious to watch how long it takes somebody to realize that they're arguing with their own team member. :P


Then, boy did I miss that train.
 
2008-12-21 05:42:00 PM  

MickCollins: These "Bush rigged the elections!" people are the left equivalent of "Obama was born outside the US and is a Muslim!" people.


They're actually the same people. Protesting the election is more important to them than supporting a candidate or ideology.
 
2008-12-21 05:44:03 PM  
bunner: I don't give a shiat about red, blue, your guys, their guys, last week, a guy who hasn't been in office for almost nine years or aqny of that endless stream of talking point yahoo, "see here my good man" horseshiat.

This stinks.

Period. We've all seen the neocon dog and pony show and it's about as relevant as a puddle of piss an hour after last call. If this went down without the people in question being connected to this guy, it's be page one. The feds would be sniffing out clues and putting RICO act gags on everybody this guy ever shook hands with. And all the harrumphing dipwads with their aluminum foil .jpgs know it. A man died. And it's fishier than a shrimp boat. Your need to ignore that is of no concern to me.


I agree. Completely.
Have a look at my comments further up the thread. It stinks, and I'm in the "this needs to be investigated" camp. And not by "specially appointed experts", either.
 
2008-12-21 05:45:27 PM  
bunner: Then, boy did I miss that train.

Like I've never done that, heh :)
 
2008-12-21 05:45:35 PM  

HowlingFrog: I agree. Completely.
Have a look at my comments further up the thread. It stinks, and I'm in the "this needs to be investigated" camp. And not by "specially appointed experts", either.


Mea culpa.
 
2008-12-21 05:53:07 PM  
What part of "all aircraft crashes are investigated" did you guys not understand?

Or is this where you start laying the ground work for why the investigation was flawed because it didn't come out with the conclusion you already came to?
 
2008-12-21 05:53:41 PM  
This thing really sucks, but there's a lesson in there somewhere if you can find it.
 
2008-12-21 05:59:52 PM  
It's not Fark. Or even news. It's teh PRNewswire!@!!@1
 
2008-12-21 06:02:54 PM  

Mrbogey: If Yahoo reprints a press release by a private group...does it make everything in it true?


A vast majority of what you might think is "news" nowadays is rehashed press releases by one of the subjects of the press release. Investigative journalism is pretty much dead; the closest it gets nowadays is when someone goes whistle blower and heads to the media instead of the authorities.

Then again I think it would carry a lot more weight if it wasn't Yahoo, but even Yahoo News would try better than to publish absolute nonsense.
 
2008-12-21 06:03:04 PM  
Well thank God the Bush/Cheney rein is almost over and we can get on with the obama/biden love fest with the media leading the chanting. Cause I gotta tell you, when I look at vpe biden the words that come to mind are honesty, integrity and Bullpucky.
 
2008-12-21 06:06:17 PM  

Mugato: Come on guys, drop the partisinism for one second and admit that it's at least a little suspicious.


I'll admit it's a little suspicious when the obama supporters admit you can't play in the mud of corrupt Chicago politics and be as squeaky clean as they claim obama is.

I gotta go now and cash my check from the RNC.

/Bucket carrier
//Flying my small plane to the bank
///What could go wrong?
 
2008-12-21 06:06:32 PM  

wilde_at_heart: nolanvoid
TheOther: KyngNothing: At that point I would probably start taking the train...

...or, at least, quit flying easily-sabotaged little planes. If he was fearful, why did he keep putting himself in the same dangerous situation?


Who the hell creates a two-color image of rasterized text and saves it using JPEG compression?

For fark's sake.
 
2008-12-21 06:10:33 PM  

Weaver95: alimansur: Can we all just pray to God that Cheney and Rove die this year? Cheney's had 8 quadruple bypasses, I mean, how much power does the Prince of Darkness have to keep him alive like this?

The Ordos believe he's been upgraded with either a Sarcosian Wave Generator or something from the Halo Stars. Dosen't really matter I suppose since he's been declared Excmmunicate Traitoris, threat level Hereticus Extremus. Capture for trial or termination at the discretion of the capture team.

/obscure
+++End Transmisson+++


So obscure that google has no farking clue what you are talking about.
 
2008-12-21 06:10:52 PM  
log_jammin: What part of "all aircraft crashes are investigated" did you guys not understand?

Yeah, so are the assassinations of political figures. That was made clear when ballistics tests showed that the .22 caliber bullets that killed RFK were fired from Sirhan's gun.
Oh, wait. There were no ballistic tests. Never mind.

Let me repeat what I asked twice above: has anybody heard anything about his final radio contacts with the ground before the crash? Did they mention wings icing up? Low on fuel? HAAALP!!? Anything?
 
2008-12-21 06:13:15 PM  
texastag: I'll admit it's a little suspicious when the obama supporters admit you can't play in the mud of corrupt Chicago politics and be as squeaky clean as they claim obama is.

C'mon, let 'em be kids awhile longer. One day they'll cherish those years.
 
2008-12-21 06:17:41 PM  

HowlingFrog: Weaver95: so...you DO advocate murdering people to cover up political corruption. You just don't like the whitewash afterwards.

Okay Weaver, you're just farking with me now.
What I advocate is a FULL investigation into what happened, and making the facts available to all. If it was a political assassination it should be blown wide open on the front page of every newspaper on the planet, and those responsible held accountable. That's what I advocate.

Cog: LOL - truthers should be institutionalized.

The Keane Commission was called a whitewash and a coverup by members of that very commission. One quit in disgust as a result. Show me where that statement is incorrect.
Na, just keep marching with the sheep and don't adjust those blinders. Life's so much easier for the mentally challenged that way.


Nice to see the two far out tin foil haters arguing with each other.
 
2008-12-21 06:18:35 PM  
Exactly what I said you would do. Its already "flawed" or corrupt before you've seen a thing from it.


As for the radio transmission why dont you fire off an email to the hard hitting investigative group "velvet revolution" and ask. They seem to have all this inside information on the subject.

Or maybe wait for the doctored version from the FAA.
 
2008-12-21 06:20:20 PM  
Velvet Revolution?

That is their source?

Yeah cause they appear to have more knowledge than a real newspaper, do they have mel gibson staff?
 
2008-12-21 06:21:57 PM  

steamingpile: Nice to see the two far out tin foil haters arguing with each other.


You know what's hilarious ?

Watching people dish out crap, meaningless generalities and buzzwords like "tinfoil hat", "truther" and "haters" like they're gonna get signed to MCA or they're some pundit for the ages, or some shiat. : )
 
2008-12-21 06:25:18 PM  
steamingpile: Nice to see the two far out tin foil haters arguing with each other.

You're calling Weaver95 a "tinfoil hater(sic)"? I'm not gonna speak for him, but I suspect he'd take umbrage at that.
 
2008-12-21 06:28:53 PM  
I'm a little amused at the folks who are unwilling to believe in government conspiracies under ANY circumstances. I've mentioned it before, but this is a government that exposed troops to radiation in the 1950s, subjected employees of the CIA to LSD in the 60s (resulting in deaths), covertly and illegally sold arms to fascist rebel groups in the 80s, funneled money to Islamic terrorists, and currently maintains a wiretapping program with no requirement for warrants or due process. Snuffing out a single guy doesn't rank very high on the factor of unbelievability.

I'm not suggesting you go full retard and believe any foil-hat conspiracy that arises, but try some common sense.
 
2008-12-21 06:29:07 PM  

HowlingFrog: steamingpile: Nice to see the two far out tin foil haters arguing with each other.

You're calling Weaver95 a "tinfoil hater(sic)"? I'm not gonna speak for him, but I suspect he'd take umbrage at that.


Hes like a pledge or something, you are one of the leaders of bullshiat tin foil hat theories, you should seek medical help and a really good therapist.
 
2008-12-21 06:31:38 PM  

steamingpile: Hes like a pledge or something, you are one of the leaders of bullshiat tin foil hat theories, you should seek medical help and a really good therapist.


Da, komrade. The authorities have noted your allegiance to the state and your rations are forthcoming.
 
2008-12-21 06:34:13 PM  
steamingpile: Hes like a pledge or something, you are one of the leaders of bullshiat tin foil hat theories, you should seek medical help and a really good therapist.

Why's that? Is everybody who doesn't conform to your mold to be considered mentally ill?

Now excuse me, while I talk to the little green worm inside my head.
(When I turn out the lights, it glows in the dark!)
 
2008-12-21 06:37:54 PM  
Common sense is seeing some evidence before deciding something is a conspiracy.

What happens in things like this is they decide it was a conspiracy(becasue "it stinks") then hunt for evidence to back it up.

The reason we know about the radation exposure/arms sales/injecting people with VD/etc. Is because someone came forward with evidence. Not because someone posted a press release based on "what if"s.
 
2008-12-21 06:39:32 PM  
Everything you believe is the truth.

Anything that disagrees with it is a lie.

Anyone who believes in lies is a sheeple, tin foil wearer, libtard, neotard, troll, denier, denier, denier, mouth breather, etc. etc.

It's so refreshing that you, lucky you, were right all along.

(Directed at you)
 
2008-12-21 06:40:43 PM  

HowlingFrog: steamingpile: Hes like a pledge or something, you are one of the leaders of bullshiat tin foil hat theories, you should seek medical help and a really good therapist.

Why's that? Is everybody who doesn't conform to your mold to be considered mentally ill?

Now excuse me, while I talk to the little green worm inside my head.
(When I turn out the lights, it glows in the dark!)


No it only applies to those who refuse to use rationality and common sense then just want to resort to outlandish theories to prove their point. When every rational person disputes the theory just claim that they are in on the cover up, I didnt know popular mechanics were ever in the know on anything. It was just a bunch of geeks making lamps out of driftwood, who knew they had high level government clearance?
 
2008-12-21 06:41:17 PM  
Surprised they didn't go with the old, "suicide in the park" shtick..maybe its been overdone. There was that time the guy fell out of the helicopter for falsely predicting Bre-X gold...still scratching my head over why Lewinski didn't fall down an elevator shaft.

Let's keep flying in our suspicious plane...
 
2008-12-21 06:50:32 PM  
steamingpile: No it only applies to those who refuse to use rationality and common sense then just want to resort to outlandish theories to prove their point.

What outlandish theory have I put forth? I've stated that the death of a man who was about to blow the whistle on massive vote fraud was suspicious enough to justify a thorough investigation. That may seem "outlandish" or even "loony" to you, but to me it falls more under that ridiculous term that you used...what was it again? Oh yeah, "common sense".

I didnt know popular mechanics were ever in the know on anything.

They're pretty good on riding lawnmower comparisons. And knocking down strawmen, while disregarding facts. But that's for another thread.
 
2008-12-21 06:51:06 PM  

Species 8473: Let's keep flying in our suspicious plane...


Thats my point, if you have credible threats out there against your life why use your normal mode of travel, if hes that stupid maybe he deserved to die, assuming those threats ever existed and they werent coming from some crack pot website.

/wondering who frog blew to get this greenlit
 
2008-12-21 06:53:57 PM  
It does seem a bit out there.

Sabotaging a plane, especially a small one capable of gliding quite nicely, doesn't guarantee a kill by any measure. Plus, either with or without the kill, it WILL result in an investigation, which may uncover the crime.
 
2008-12-21 06:55:04 PM  

HowlingFrog: What outlandish theory have I put forth? I've stated that the death of a man who was about to blow the whistle on massive vote fraud was suspicious enough to justify a thorough investigation. That may seem "outlandish" or even "loony" to you, but to me it falls more under that ridiculous term that you used...what was it again? Oh yeah, "common sense".


What massive voter fraud? The fraud that never existed? Or are you part of the same people who think that internet hosting companies only have one server and everything comes through that one mega computer? Yes thats it, one computer re routes all the votes to make sure rove's butt buddy gets elected!!!!!! It makes so much sense now!!!!!!

Do you even realize who would have to be in on a plot like this? Oh no of course you dont, that would make your little theory seem incredibly stupid.

HowlingFrog: They're pretty good on riding lawnmower comparisons. And knocking down strawmen, while disregarding facts. But that's for another thread.


Yes lawnmowers, have you read who publishes the magazine? They are some of the top engineers in the country and the ones used in that article are top engineers from around the world.

Seriously, get mental help you are off the deep end.
 
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