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2003-01-16 09:25:01 AM
I've jihad enough of the YellowTimes.
 
2003-01-16 10:04:20 AM
Bump is my hero
 
2003-01-16 10:04:54 AM
the war of peace? isn't that what we are doing?
 
2003-01-16 10:05:11 AM
Dear Yellow Times. I've got your jihad of peace right here. Fap.
 
2003-01-16 10:05:55 AM
farked.
 
2003-01-16 10:06:01 AM
farked already?
 
2003-01-16 10:06:03 AM
"Tolerance to the infidels!"

Hmm... doesn't have that same ring to it.
 
2003-01-16 10:09:13 AM
sfw?


g'mornin' sunshines.
 
2003-01-16 10:09:48 AM
Bump has said it all.

Zork out.

-TZ
 
2003-01-16 10:14:25 AM
So what if Jihad does mean "struggle"? So does "Kampf". (As in "Mein ...")
 
2003-01-16 10:14:45 AM
The majority speaks, nice to hear.
 
2003-01-16 10:15:11 AM
Oops. Maybe it was on my end - back now.

Sorry about the precipitous farkedness warning.
 
2003-01-16 10:16:20 AM
Cereal box journalism.....
 
2003-01-16 10:16:51 AM
I haven't jihad a piece for quite awhile!
 
2003-01-16 10:18:19 AM
ji·had also je·had Pronunciation Key (j-häd)
n.
A Muslim holy war or spiritual struggle against infidels.
A crusade or struggle: "The war against smoking is turning into a jihad against people who smoke" (Fortune).


It does not mean I declare a jihad against this double meat double cheese whataburger.
 
2003-01-16 10:18:38 AM
Dear Yellow Times: get jihad out of your ass, thank you.

-alto
 
2003-01-16 10:18:44 AM
ok, at the bottom of that article it has a list of "peacemakers." What the hell is up with that? Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon? I hope most people on Fark realize that these nobodies are just trying to reclaim some sort of stature in society. Usually yellowtimes is the shiat, but what the butt do i care what the literal translation and origin of the word JIHAD is? That article is bullpiss.
 
2003-01-16 10:19:16 AM
So true. Before everyone calls all muslims militant martyrs, they might want to read the Quran and a history of Islam. It was the caliphs that used the term Jihad to imply th destruction of Christianity. Mohammed meant it as an metaphysical struggle between rage (the poison of society) and peace (the true path to Allah). Nice to hear some sane things about Islam.
 
2003-01-16 10:20:15 AM
Awful quiet in here... why not...

click here and join the fun?
 
2003-01-16 10:21:30 AM
There's nothing sane about Islam, just as there's nothing sane about religion in general.
 
2003-01-16 10:23:02 AM
oh. you can use 'jihad' instead of 'had' in a sentence. i get it now.
 
2003-01-16 10:23:53 AM
I'd join 'the religion of peace' but I prefer dating girls without mutilated genitalia. I guess I'm just not tolerant enough.
 
2003-01-16 10:25:10 AM
I guess that's why we keep hearing thousands of Muslims talking about making jihad against the infidels every day...poor misguided men. If only they would read the Yellow Times I'm sure they'd give up the violent interpretation of the word.
 
2003-01-16 10:27:38 AM
OK YellowTimes (or the guest columnist at least), I gotta cry foul on this one. Comparing Sean Penn and Susan Surandon to Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela?

To my knowledge Sean Penn has never spent a significant portion of his life jailed for fighting for equality for his people, and Susan Surandon has never won a Nobel Peace prize. Get some perspective, please.
 
2003-01-16 10:28:34 AM
Pinko Commie Bastards.
 
2003-01-16 10:30:34 AM
They lost me when they started expressing admiration for the apparently genuinely-retarded Sean Penn.

OK, that's a lie, Yellow Times lost me the very first time I hazarded to check out their little workers paradise site. Heck, I wish I were unintelligent enough to fool myself into seeing life the way they do -- if indeed they genuinely do see the world in this manner -- but that's not an option open to me.

Seriously, we should really charge Yellow Journalism... er, YT a promotion fee. I'll bet that on days when one of their "analyses" are linked here most of their traffic comes from Fark.
 
2003-01-16 10:30:57 AM
 
2003-01-16 10:31:05 AM
The_leviathan, and here on fark you can hear hundreds of Americnas calling for jihad against moslems every day.

Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle.
 
2003-01-16 10:31:10 AM
I was reminded of the joke:

What to do if you happen upon a peace rally by stupid naive hemp-shirt-wearing college idiots, to teach them why force is sometimes needed:

1) Approach dumb rich ignorant student talking about "peace" and saying there should be, "no retaliation."
2) Engage in brief conversation, ask if military force is appropriate.
3) When he says "No," ask, "Why not?"
4) Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence."
5) When he's in mid sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can.
6) When he gets back up to up to punch you, point out that it would be a mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would, "be awful and he should not cause more violence."
7) Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence.
8) Punch him in the face again, harder this time.

Repeat steps 5 through 8 until they understand that sometimes it is necessary to punch back.
 
2003-01-16 10:31:13 AM
I still think that judging Islam from the extremists is every bit as ignorant as judging Christianity by the extremists.

Before we start with the religious quotes - You can use almost any book to justify anything. If I decided that Lord of the Rings was a holy book then I'm sure I could find instructions from god in it for me to do anything I wanted to.

Still that said, I don't have a lot of time for organised religions at the best of times. I wish all the dogma ridden types would piss off for 40 years or so - must be an interesting desert where they can get god's instructions from.
 
2003-01-16 10:33:18 AM
Swami_dm, is America retaliating? about what.

I thought this was pre-emptive retaliation.

BTW, do try that at the next anti-war demo, you will discover that most of us who are against the war are not pacifists.
 
2003-01-16 10:33:48 AM
Equating Sean Penn with Desmond Tutu? Are you kidding me?
 
2003-01-16 10:34:46 AM
Equating George Bush with a Statesman and great politician? are you kidding me?
 
2003-01-16 10:34:50 AM
 
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2003-01-16 10:35:25 AM
"BTW, do try that at the next anti-war demo, you will discover that most of us who are against the war are not pacifists"

true. I once mocked an anti-war demo and had oolong tea and a sandal thrown at me. be wary.
 
2003-01-16 10:35:39 AM
How can you demonstrate for peace if you are not a pacifist? I might be wrong on this one, but isn't "pacifist"="person in favor of peace"?
 
2003-01-16 10:35:52 AM
And the WWII could be avoided because Chamberlain achieved "peace in our time"
 
2003-01-16 10:36:11 AM
I don't know, Harmonia, most of what I hear has been against the extremist "Muslims", and the countries that they foster.
 
2003-01-16 10:36:23 AM
Sean Penn does have one significant contribution to peace. He started in the movie Thin Red Line. Let's face it, if war was as long and boring as that movie (It felt longer than World War I and the Korean War combined), we'd nuke ourselves just to avoid conflict.
 
2003-01-16 10:36:25 AM
Harmonia -- that's not a likely contingency in the Yellow Times.
 
2003-01-16 10:37:46 AM
Harmonia:

"BTW, do try that at the next anti-war demo, you will discover that most of us who are against the war are not pacifists."

The haute bourgeoisie kids who go to all the demos are not pacificists. However, anti-war protestors seem to have a weird attitude towards violence. Here in the states during Vietnam, kids thrashed property and fought cops all the time, but with no killing. When Kent State happened, they dropped all the violent and confrontational rhetoric like a hot potato and scurried off to graduate school.

I don't know what that proves, but I find anti-war protestors interesting. And amusing.
 
2003-01-16 10:38:01 AM
You must read some edited version of fark Steve, want me to dig around and fine the posts with "kill the camelfarkers" or "nuke baghdad"?

Swami, know about any other wars apart from WW2, Vietnam for example. Its a far more recent and relevent example.
 
2003-01-16 10:38:07 AM
Just as Susan Sarandon is known as 'the breasts of Hollywood', I am known as 'the prick of the Netherlands' - but for completely different reasons.
 
2003-01-16 10:38:19 AM
Bush is a true retard. He´s the biggest joke ever! Hahaha...
 
2003-01-16 10:39:55 AM
The word "jihad" comes from the three-letter root of j, h, and d. The j, h, and d of jihad when grouped together mean "effort."

neato...i guess that means that it should fall into the same grouping of verbs like darasa and kataba

learn somethin' new eveyday
 
2003-01-16 10:40:01 AM
Harmonia -- or Desert Storm. That's even more recent and relevant.
 
2003-01-16 10:41:39 AM
Stevarooni
I don't know, Harmonia, most of what I hear has been against the extremist "Muslims", and the countries that they foster.

Well, that rules out Iraq. Secular state and definitely not in the 'loony fundie' Islam brigade. Ruled by an asshole, but one of his few redeeming features is that he isn't a fundamentalist. Mouths the correct phrases in speeches, but lives none of it.
 
2003-01-16 10:42:57 AM
Harmonia. Kill the camel farkers. Nuke Baghdad
 
2003-01-16 10:43:44 AM
Interesting? I think not.
 
2003-01-16 10:48:09 AM
Millay, I dont know about US demos, ours are certainly not
"haute bourgeoisie kids"

In fact our next one is being led by the firefighters union.

Mark Feb 14th in your diary, big big day.
 
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