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(BBC)   Astronomers have found a hot planet that is retaining water, can only observe it three weeks out of the month because it gets unbelievably biatchy   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 58
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2008-12-11 07:58:18 AM
... and they're naming it Flo?
 
2008-12-11 10:05:47 AM
Is the planet "be shoppin'"?
 
2008-12-11 10:30:48 AM
Is it still amazing but slightly disappointing to me to find out it was a giant fireball and nothing more
 
2008-12-11 10:31:00 AM
Rosie O'Donnell is not a new discovery.
 
2008-12-11 10:31:49 AM
Astronomy buff, yada yada yada. I giggled.

/+1 to subby
 
2008-12-11 10:33:31 AM
Big Man On Campus: Rosie O'Donnell is not a new discovery.

Um, he said "hot".
 
2008-12-11 10:37:59 AM
i134.photobucket.com
 
2008-12-11 10:38:23 AM
Ah yes, The planet of the Nurturing Earth Mothers.

Mr. Sulu set phasers on shave.



/Bloom County FTW
 
2008-12-11 10:42:42 AM
Its ankles are swollen and its children never call.
 
2008-12-11 10:42:54 AM
Didn't this planet get enough attention already? "oooh! Look at me! I have CO2!" and then it's all like "Oooh! Look at me! I have H2O!"

If we don't stop giving this whore planet attention right away it'll end up sending us Celine Dion like tarty Canada.

Well fark you, you planet! fark you and right in the ring.
 
2008-12-11 10:45:48 AM
Bravo submitter. Bravo. *golf clap*
 
2008-12-11 10:47:09 AM
starrion: Ah yes, The planet of the Nurturing Earth Mothers.

Mr. Sulu set phasers on shave.



/Bloom County FTW


Comedy farking gold.
 
2008-12-11 10:50:30 AM
Etchy333: Is the planet "be shoppin'"?

you can't stop a planet from shoppin!
 
2008-12-11 10:51:41 AM
Come over here and say that, subby.

/not biatchy, just stabby
 
2008-12-11 10:54:46 AM
apotheosis27: Etchy333: Is the planet "be shoppin'"?

you can't stop a planet from shoppin!


I lol'd waaaaay too hard at this.
 
2008-12-11 10:56:59 AM

FTFA:
"We concluded there was no water a couple of years ago, the theoreticians were upset, they'd predicted it would be there. We didn't understand it. We looked much harder we watched it for over 120 hours, and sure enough there was the signature matching brilliantly with the models," said Dr Grillmair.

You vill look oontil you see zee water as predicted by zee models!!!
www.fpp.co.uk
 
2008-12-11 10:59:23 AM
I've never understood why scientists seek only planets that have water. Has it occured to them that alien life might sustain itself on different chemicals than earth-life?

How do they know that aliens don't drink ammonia and breath methane?
 
2008-12-11 11:00:21 AM
I want to know which two weeks (one before, one during) that I can make everyone around me feel bad for me while still ripping their heads off and throwing tantrums all the time.

Another reason that feminism sucks for men; two weeks out of the week it's 50/50, the rest it's 99/1. Guess who ends up on the short side of that? The side that gets the social right to drop out of earning whenever they decide they want to.

/being a dude sucks now.
/no way is my dick worth 1500$/month + food and expenses.
 
2008-12-11 11:01:01 AM
Yay! Another red planet!
 
2008-12-11 11:04:30 AM
awesome headline
 
2008-12-11 11:05:52 AM
hienekenftw: I've never understood why scientists seek only planets that have water. Has it occured to them that alien life might sustain itself on different chemicals than earth-life?

How do they know that aliens don't drink ammonia and breath methane?


Because water is epically awesome.

Yes, certain life forms can exist in small doses without water, but it's theorized that more complicated life can only exist with water. Among other things, water helps stabilize temperature and mixes well with both acids and bases...
 
2008-12-11 11:09:18 AM
This is a Repeat with a much more accurate headline
Link (new window)
 
2008-12-11 11:10:27 AM
reillan: Among other things, water helps stabilize temperature and mixes well with both acids and bases...

...but you still should avoid the brown acid.
 
2008-12-11 11:10:27 AM
plus one
 
2008-12-11 11:12:00 AM
Uranus? Maybe not hot...but pretty tempting.
 
2008-12-11 11:15:15 AM
Headline:Water found in hot planet's orbit

Uh, yes. That's how we talk. Like the clouds in our atmosphere, they are in our orbit? Who failed science class and took up journalism?
 
2008-12-11 11:18:19 AM
hienekenftw: I've never understood why scientists seek only planets that have water. Has it occured to them that alien life might sustain itself on different chemicals than earth-life?

How do they know that aliens don't drink ammonia and breath methane?


Absolutely! Came here to make the same point. This always bothered me. That and the bipedalism.
 
2008-12-11 11:20:38 AM
hienekenftw: How do they know that aliens don't drink ammonia and breath methane?

We breath O2 because it has a very high oxidizing ability, so it can break down organic C for energy. Life on earth is carbon based because C can form up to four bonds, make long, complex molecules, and there is a lot of energy stored in the bonds, which we can metabolize. CH4 has very, very little oxidizing potential compared to O2.

/The more you know!
//First time in a while that geochemistry degree is earning its keep.
 
2008-12-11 11:22:25 AM
rubi_con_man: Another reason that feminism sucks for men; two weeks out of the week it's 50/50, the rest it's 99/1. Guess who ends up on the short side of that? The side that gets the social right to drop out of earning whenever they decide they want to.

I believe there's an Internet meme what would point out your ridiculousness. Right! It's the Whaaaambulence!
 
2008-12-11 11:23:37 AM
hienekenftw: I've never understood why scientists seek only planets that have water. Has it occured to them that alien life might sustain itself on different chemicals than earth-life?

How do they know that aliens don't drink ammonia and breath methane?


I want to meet the ones that eat Mexicans and pee gasoline.
 
2008-12-11 11:25:55 AM
trappedspirit: Headline:Water found in hot planet's orbit

Uh, yes. That's how we talk. Like the clouds in our atmosphere, they are in our orbit? Who failed science class and took up journalism?


Their spellcheck sucks too. Did you see how they spelled 'vapor' and 'center'?
 
2008-12-11 11:26:49 AM
hienekenftw: I've never understood why scientists seek only planets that have water. Has it occured to them that alien life might sustain itself on different chemicals than earth-life?

How do they know that aliens don't drink ammonia and breath methane?


same reason we have better trade with countries with citizens that don't wipe their ass with their hand.
 
2008-12-11 11:26:57 AM
They found HD 1897733b goes round its star every 2.2 days

It's always either a New Year's Eve or New Year's Day with a skosh left over for cleaning up.
 
2008-12-11 11:27:15 AM
Sue Dunham: hienekenftw: I've never understood why scientists seek only planets that have water. Has it occured to them that alien life might sustain itself on different chemicals than earth-life?

How do they know that aliens don't drink ammonia and breath methane?

Absolutely! Came here to make the same point. This always bothered me. That and the bipedalism.


Well, for one thing it's just somethign to look for. They are looking at the other planets, and they are listening to everything they can. You just have to start somewhere. I'm just frankly amazed that we can learn so much about planets so far away. I never dreamed we'd be studying planets around other stars when I was a child.
 
2008-12-11 11:30:55 AM
It's called Planet P.M.S. 69
 
2008-12-11 11:33:29 AM
i104.photobucket.com
 
2008-12-11 11:37:08 AM
Lampmonster:

I never dreamed we'd be studying planets around other stars when I was a child.

As a child I did but in my dreams it was more like this

www.thegreenhead.com

SherKhan, you and the robot go out into the uncharted wilderness and take this mincing, boy-hungry pedophile with you*

*Family Guy

/link classified hot Jupiter
 
2008-12-11 11:40:12 AM
We look for water because that is what we need to survive. We are looking for somewhere to go. The new frontier, humans natural need to explore.

Eventually something will happen. Earth gets hit by an Asteroid, the sun goes supernova or the Milky Way and Andromeda decide to merge. Either way we need to be a very very long way away or the human race will vanish from existence. You may think, that's a long time from now, and your right. But a billion years or not, we better get started or we aint going to make it.
 
2008-12-11 11:46:20 AM
Alternatives to water based life get plenty of attention in science and in science fiction try a library or Wikipedia has article to start from here. (new window)
 
2008-12-11 11:51:23 AM
hienekenftw: I've never understood why scientists seek only planets that have water. Has it occured to them that alien life might sustain itself on different chemicals than earth-life?

Because we are familiar with life that needs water. It is what we know.

So if you look for something, it is much easier to look for something you are familiar with, than to look for something that you have no clue about.

Consider this thought experiment. I put you in a dark room, and ask you to look for a ball. I don't tell you what size or shape, but if you find the ball, you will know it.
Second try: I put you in a dark room and tell you to look for a weezelbub. Still not explaining anything else, you could be in the room for a long time without finding what I am looking for.

Looking for life that works like ours does is straightforward, just like looking for a ball in a dark room.
Looking for life which is completely different than anything we have experienced is like looking for the weezelbub.
 
2008-12-11 11:55:07 AM
Goole Nibiru
Link
 
2008-12-11 11:55:56 AM
google Nibiru.... sorry
Link
 
2008-12-11 12:07:41 PM
Leave? But sarge Planet PMS is wonderful! Why would we ever want to ... aaaiiiigggghhhh!
 
2008-12-11 12:12:23 PM
gibbon1: Leave? But sarge Planet PMS is wonderful! Why would we ever want to ... aaaiiiigggghhhh!

Maybe the guy in the red shirt will live, being disguised and all.
 
2008-12-11 12:16:20 PM
hienekenftw
How do they know that aliens don't drink ammonia and breath methane?

We know of thousands of extrasolar planets with environments that don't support life; there's no reason to assume life there because we have no precedent for it. Gas giants seem extremely poor candidates because they contain large amounts of chemicals that are corrosive to organic cells. Maybe there are silicon based lifeforms that can withstand these, but we can't operate under that assumption until there is evidence.

What we are really looking for is evidence of photosynthesis, without which life could not exist on earth.
 
2008-12-11 12:20:02 PM
hienekenftw: I've never understood why scientists seek only planets that have water. Has it occured to them that alien life might sustain itself on different chemicals than earth-life?

Because we assume chemicals on Earth behave roughly the same as they do elsewhere in the Universe. Water is a good candidate for solvent- neutral pH, can dissolve just about anything. Methane could work, but then it'd be too cold for most of the life-related chemical reactions to happen. An organism that used methane as its primary fluid would have chemical cycles that we would measure on the basis of decades. While this is a very valid possibility for a life form, it wouldn't make an interesting dinner guest.

The other issue is this: we only know of one environment where life exists. Earth. While it's fun and interesting to speculate about other possible varieties of organisms, we at least know a water-belt planet with a fair amount of oxygen in the atmosphere is a good place for life to form. Maybe there are critters on Titan (I think this likely), but we know that if we see an Earth-like planet, the odds of something we'd recognize as alive being there are pretty good.
 
2008-12-11 12:21:59 PM
hienekenftw: I've never understood why scientists seek only planets that have water. Has it occured to them that alien life might sustain itself on different chemicals than earth-life?

How do they know that aliens don't drink ammonia and breath methane?


Dude, do you really want to hang around with aliens who drink piss and breathe farts?
 
2008-12-11 12:24:43 PM
Anything but carbon based meatsacks and we wont be able to communicate and will just off each other. So we might as well look for carbon based meatsacks.
 
2008-12-11 12:25:22 PM
HAMMERTOE: drink piss

Um... urine does not contain ammonia. Urea can break down into ammonia, but that's a little different. It means they drink old piss.

But then again, mammals incubate their young in pee. That's basically what amniotic fluid is. So there you go, for 9 months you bathed in piss and breathed through a tube.
 
2008-12-11 12:27:07 PM
lewismarktwo: Anything but carbon based meatsacks and we wont be able to communicate and will just off each other. So we might as well look for carbon based meatsacks.

That's not really true. We share the planet with billions of organisms that we can't communicate with. While we don't always get along that great, and extinction does happen, vast numbers of organisms survive just fine.
 
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