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(CNN)   Man who lost his whole family in the F/A-18 crash says that pilot is one of our treasures for the country and to pray for the pilot   (cnn.com) divider line 345
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2008-12-09 10:40:40 PM
so he's not going to sue? WTF?
 
2008-12-09 10:41:25 PM
Guess he didn't like his family very much.
 
2008-12-09 10:47:34 PM
inebriated brain: so he's not going to sue? WTF?

Maybe he's playing the patriotic card to work up a future jury.
 
2008-12-09 10:49:52 PM
Hats off to the guy.

He lost his family and he isn't engaging in knee-jerk blaming of anyone.
 
2008-12-09 10:54:09 PM
Pilots can be recruited and trained and replaced. Once your family is gone, however, they're gone.
 
2008-12-09 10:56:21 PM
"I know there are many people who have experienced more terrible things," Yoon said. "But, please, tell me how to do it. I don't know what to do."

Wow. I....I think I have something in my eye.
 
2008-12-09 10:57:15 PM
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/Stupid to blame the pilot.
 
2008-12-09 10:58:17 PM
Wow.
 
2008-12-09 11:00:30 PM
I can pretty much guarantee that I would not be that composed if I had just lost my whole family to a goddamn airplane falling out of the sky!

Hit the showers and get shiatfaced, buddy. You've earned it.
 
2008-12-09 11:01:31 PM
cryinoutloud: Wow. I....I think I have something in my eye.

Seriously. Holy crap.

I'm glad he's got that god stuff I don't believe in to help comfort him. I really am.

I hope he's got some friends here in America.

And I hope his words are heeded, and, if the investigation finds the pilot wasn't at fault, that he doesn't feel wracked with guilt for the rest of his life.
 
2008-12-09 11:05:24 PM
Obdicut: And I hope his words are heeded, and, if the investigation finds the pilot wasn't at fault, that he doesn't feel wracked with guilt for the rest of his life.

Unless the eyewitnesses who said the plane was silent are all lying, I cannot think of a single reason a pilot would knowingly and intentionally shut off both engines of an FA/18 under 5,000 feet. You can't float those farkers in like a Cessna.
 
2008-12-09 11:11:33 PM
PoopStain: Unless the eyewitnesses who said the plane was silent are all lying, I cannot think of a single reason a pilot would knowingly and intentionally shut off both engines of an FA/18 under 5,000 feet. You can't float those farkers in like a Cessna.

Yes, sorry, in case I didn't make it clear, it sounds entirely as if the pilot was not at fault. I didn't mean to sound like I thought the two possibilities were equal.

They may be taking lower and lower qualified people into the armed services, but they're not putting them in fighters.
 
2008-12-09 11:11:48 PM
"I know there are many people who have experienced more terrible things," Yoon said. "But, please, tell me how to do it. I don't know what to do."


Wow...
 
2008-12-09 11:14:57 PM
I want to be that kind of person. Not there yet.
 
2008-12-09 11:16:40 PM
I would not be able to be so reasonable in his position.
 
2008-12-09 11:17:01 PM
According to NPR on the radio this morning, the neighborhood knows about those pilots.

Last time a fighter had engine failure like that, the pilot died because he didn't eject in time... because he was trying to aim away from populated areas.

My personal jury is still out, needing new info if this pilot had any kind of control of the plane when he ejected.
 
2008-12-09 11:17:11 PM
From the CNN article:

"I don't blame him. I don't have any hard feelings. I know he did everything he could," said Yoon, flanked by members of San Diego's Korean community, relatives and members from the family's church.

Fighting back tears, he said of his daughters: "I cannot believe that they are not here right now. I know there are many people who have experienced more terrible things," Yoon said. "But, please, tell me how to do it. I don't know what to do."


Excuse me, I have something in my eye...
 
2008-12-09 11:20:24 PM
darkhorse23: I want to be that kind of person. Not there yet.

It's humbling. I'm feeling a little ashamed of muttering "I hate my life" this morning about dumb crap at work and then coming home to my husband and son.
 
2008-12-09 11:20:35 PM
When I hear things like this, I am again amazed and a little humbled by how badly people want to leave their homelands and come to America.

It's easy to biatch and moan about immigrants.

Sometimes it seems they grasp just a little bit better what America is supposed to be about. And, no, I'm not talking about sacrificing your family for your country; it's about not blaming every single slightly-uncomfortable-to-utterly-horrific thing on someone else. Or, perhaps better put: Not looking to turn a tragedy into a payday.

I really feel for the guy. I don't know what I'd do if I lost my entire family in one horrible moment.
 
2008-12-09 11:25:57 PM
It's not a bad way to go though, most mornings I'd be glad if a plane fell out of the sky and vaporized me instantly.
 
2008-12-09 11:31:22 PM
Zeiss_Ikon: My personal jury is still out, needing new info if this pilot had any kind of control of the plane when he ejected.

If both engines quit, which is starting to get leaked (pops), then nope, not enough control to get it off course in time. He was trying for a nearby canyon, but all accounts make it sound like he lost power before he could make it.

Sounds like he lost one engine, requested an emergency landing at the base, and then lost the second engine short of the runway. Once both engines quit the only thing that might have worked in his favor was altitude and he didn't have any.
 
2008-12-09 11:32:40 PM
PoopStain: Sounds like he lost one engine, requested an emergency landing at the base, and then lost the second engine short of the runway. Once both engines quit the only thing that might have worked in his favor was altitude and he didn't have any.

Are F/A-18s fly-by-wire, do you know?
 
2008-12-09 11:33:44 PM
Mordant: It's not a bad way to go though, most mornings I'd be glad if a plane fell out of the sky and vaporized me instantly.

I was talking about this today with a friend at work and he agreed with you. I myself would not want to go out crushed or burned to death by a plane that crashed into my house. I would prefer death by sleep.
 
2008-12-09 11:33:57 PM
darkhorse23: I want to be that kind of person. Not there yet.

Me too. Sometimes I wonder if the reason it is so hard to get there is because I do not believe in God, and lack that as comfort. It just isn't my thing; it would feel false to me. But I am glad this guy has it, because I do not know how I would cope with that loss.
 
2008-12-09 11:38:20 PM
Picture of the pilot:

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2008-12-09 11:38:39 PM
PoopStain: Mordant: It's not a bad way to go though, most mornings I'd be glad if a plane fell out of the sky and vaporized me instantly.

I was talking about this today with a friend at work and he agreed with you. I myself would not want to go out crushed or burned to death by a plane that crashed into my house. I would prefer death by sleep.


I'd prefer death from extreme sexual stimulation resulting in complete and total neural overload, followed by immediate physical collapse.

but that's just me.
 
2008-12-09 11:47:02 PM
Computer-controlled FBW via a hydraulic system. (pops)

Even if the pilot still had any manual control if he lost both engines under 1,000 feet he'd be hard pressed to vary where the farker was going to land beyond which house he wanted to hit. It was going to drop like a rock regardless.
 
2008-12-09 11:48:38 PM
PoopStain: Even if the pilot still had any manual control if he lost both engines under 1,000 feet he'd be hard pressed to vary where the farker was going to land beyond which house he wanted to hit. It was going to drop like a rock regardless.

Yeah. If his engines were out he wasn't a pilot anymore, he was just a passenger. I really hope he's able to overcome this. It seems impossible not to want to blame oneself, though.

Story makes me feel guilty, for god's sake.
 
2008-12-09 11:57:33 PM
jbeatty: Hats off to the guy.

He lost his family and he isn't engaging in knee-jerk blaming of anyone.


Absolutely.Obdicut: I really hope he's able to overcome this. It seems impossible not to want to blame oneself, though.

Yeah.
 
2008-12-10 12:01:23 AM
Weaver95 [TotalFark] (favorite: Tarnation) Quote 2008-12-09 11:38:39 PM
PoopStain: Mordant: It's not a bad way to go though, most mornings I'd be glad if a plane fell out of the sky and vaporized me instantly.

I was talking about this today with a friend at work and he agreed with you. I myself would not want to go out crushed or burned to death by a plane that crashed into my house. I would prefer death by sleep.

I'd prefer death from extreme sexual stimulation resulting in complete and total neural overload, followed by immediate physical collapse.

but that's just me.


I'll have what he's having
 
2008-12-10 12:04:36 AM
This quote really shook me up earlier when I read it on another article:

Rose, 44, saw Yoon kiss his wife and baby goodbye in their driveway as he left for work Monday, about three hours before the jet fighter clipped a jacaranda tree, bounced off the pavement and crashed into the Yoons' home. "I saw their last kiss," said Rose, a retired photographer. "I thought, 'What a beautiful sight,' and then later in the day they were just gone."

Don't blow off the one's you love because you never know when they won't be there a few hours later.

I hope both of these fine men can find peace in their lives.
 
2008-12-10 12:07:36 AM
dramboxf: When I hear things like this, I am again amazed and a little humbled by how badly people want to leave their homelands and come to America.

It's easy to biatch and moan about immigrants.

Sometimes it seems they grasp just a little bit better what America is supposed to be about. And, no, I'm not talking about sacrificing your family for your country; it's about not blaming every single slightly-uncomfortable-to-utterly-horrific thing on someone else. Or, perhaps better put: Not looking to turn a tragedy into a payday.

I really feel for the guy. I don't know what I'd do if I lost my entire family in one horrible moment.


Pretty much THIS.

American dream and all. Americans, all in all, do not have it that bad. Yes, there are homeless and those who are discriminated against here. But, for the most part, America is still a destination for a lot of the world.

This guy is inspirational. I am sorry he lost his family. I don't want to ever know his pain.
 
2008-12-10 12:09:49 AM
What dramboxf said. Remember this guy when you next feel like criticizing immigrants.
 
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2008-12-10 12:13:45 AM
And this guy is going to wake up tomorrow, all foggy, and then remember, in an incredible wave of mourning and devastation. If he sleeps at all.

What a sad series of events.

We'll read more about this, I'm sure.
 
2008-12-10 12:14:58 AM
Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: Picture of the pilot:

That's not funny. Seriously. And I've hated McCain as my senator for years.
 
2008-12-10 12:21:49 AM
Weaver95: I'd prefer death from extreme sexual stimulation resulting in complete and total neural overload, followed by immediate physical collapse.

Weaver, dude, that's called "hookers and blow."

If I'm ever diagnosed with a terminal disease, I'm going to call all and any of my old drug dealers and get three or four 8-balls of the best coke around. I will drain my savings account if I have to.

You can't even feel your heart explode into the third 8-ball. I think THAT'S the way to go. And it supports an underground economy. I'm all for that.
 
2008-12-10 12:23:17 AM
jims4x4toy: Pretty much THIS.

Doonesbury had a great strip on that. It had Mike talking to an El Salvadorian seeking amnesty, and Mike complaining about his wife dumping him. The El Salvadorian sympathized, telling him that he understood, as he'd lost his wife too-- when she was executed.

Brutal heartpunch and darkly funny.
 
2008-12-10 12:26:04 AM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: Picture of the pilot:

That's not funny. Seriously. And I've hated McCain as my senator for years.


Then you have me to thank for establishing the parameters of your hate.
 
2008-12-10 12:26:24 AM
For some reason, the fact that they were Korean immigrants really touched me.

/former Korean emigrant
 
2008-12-10 12:31:19 AM
As retribution, I think the pilot should offer to have this man's children.
 
2008-12-10 12:32:08 AM
The crappy thing is that if he had lost power just a few seconds before he would have made it into the canyon.

The house that was hit was only one house away from the edge of the canyon.

/one of the worst situations i've heard of lately
 
2008-12-10 01:25:34 AM
vartian: Me too. Sometimes I wonder if the reason it is so hard to get there is because I do not believe in God, and lack that as comfort. It just isn't my thing; it would feel false to me. But I am glad this guy has it, because I do not know how I would cope with that loss.

You don't have to believe in god to be a moral person.
 
2008-12-10 01:27:43 AM
Just an all around sad story.
 
2008-12-10 01:47:48 AM
darkhorse23: I want to be that kind of person. Not there yet.

I hope that I could have half as much courage as he displayed during that press conference - it broke my heart when he asked how to deal with his loss...

I would be a blubbering, mascara stained mess who would not be thinking clear enough to be worried about the pilot at this point after the accident. This fact does not make me proud.
 
2008-12-10 02:37:35 AM
Your wife is dead...

Link (new window)
 
2008-12-10 02:39:05 AM
What about Omarion?
 
2008-12-10 02:39:56 AM
Boy, that man must have really hated his mother-in-law.
 
2008-12-10 02:40:29 AM
Can't believe this guy didn't get the hero tag, which he really deserves. It's refreshing to see individual compassion and common sense still exist in this day and age.
 
2008-12-10 02:40:51 AM
A Korean immigrant who lost his wife, two children and mother-in-law when a Marine Corps jet slammed into the family's house said Tuesday he did not blame the pilot, who ejected and survived.

That might explain it.
 
2008-12-10 02:41:58 AM
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