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(Reuters)   Bushism's 'resignate' with the people, will likely 'embetter' the English language   (reuters.co.uk) divider line 315
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2003-01-15 04:22:18 PM
What a perfectly cromulent read.

Yes, didn't it embiggen your soul?
 
2003-01-15 04:22:53 PM
Cynic32:

A-FARKING-MEN.

You are not alone, there. And I am happy to know that I am not alone, either.

The disintegration of grammar in these past few years is astonishing and sad. We even find it acceptable in our president.

ugh.
 
2003-01-15 04:22:55 PM
Kinghorse on any level - empty rhetoric spewing vitriolic teenager.
 
2003-01-15 04:23:06 PM
I_Can't_Believe_It's_Not_Smegma

I believe this is yours.
 
2003-01-15 04:23:13 PM
Loods like someone (me) didn't read the first few posts
 
2003-01-15 04:23:41 PM
eraser8, sorry about that. I threw "instinctively" in as a wee joke, but I failed because of my cultural challengedness.
 
2003-01-15 04:23:45 PM
Politicians prefer illiterate, vulnerable, partisan consumers to well educated, self sustaining, objective citizens.



Remember that!

(Yes, I took license.)
 
2003-01-15 04:24:33 PM
I agree entirely that the english language is an organic tool of expression. Its willingness to adopt influences from the various people that invaded England has led to its being a rich and colorful language. Shakespeare added a vast number of words to the language himself; however, and this is where it gets important, Shakespeare was a genius, Steve the cvnt in marketing who thinks "incentivize" is a word is simply a cvnt in marketing and has not earned this right.
 
2003-01-15 04:24:43 PM
WarmBeer -- To BS, does not one normally have to be articulate?
 
2003-01-15 04:24:53 PM
You know what's really scary? The fact that in the far future some kid is gonna research the birth of these words and think Bush was really really smart.
 
2003-01-15 04:25:22 PM
Anyone comment yet on the grammar error in the headline?

8D
 
2003-01-15 04:25:59 PM
PlastiqueJeebus :
What I don't get is why nobody surrounding him, including his image people, has gotten him to pronounce it correctly.


They do you one better: they try to avoid allowing him to speak in situations where he needs to ad lib. Note the curious lack of press conferences. That's not an accident.
 
2003-01-15 04:26:11 PM
01-15-03 11:55:52 AM Doctechnical
Alas, the advent of the "Personal Computer", with it's alleged Spelling and Grammar checkers, has reduced proofreading to a keystroke.


...uh?
 
2003-01-15 04:27:11 PM
What a Duketastrophy!
 
2003-01-15 04:27:17 PM
Cynic32:
Doesn't it seem like people's grammatical knowledge has decreased concurrent with their access to spellcheck?
 
2003-01-15 04:27:55 PM
Even with spell check, though, you aren't 100% safe - i.e., there, their, they're...
 
2003-01-15 04:28:03 PM
Aias and Hayduke, you are right. Bush is not an idiot. But, he regards the American people as idiots -- and, quite frankly, he has a good argument. He has found out, through experience, that people pay a lot of attention to feigned sincerity and promises of compassion but pay absolutely no attention to what is actually enacted in policy.
 
2003-01-15 04:28:11 PM
JennyBean- "none of read for pleasure."
Good thing you're an avid reader. Try being an avid writer next.
 
2003-01-15 04:28:18 PM
Yea, it's pretty sad when the White House PR staff has to come up with a phrase like "weapons of mass destruction" just because the President of the United States, the leader of the free[sic] world, can't correctly pronounce the word "nuclear".

Sad indeed.
 
2003-01-15 04:28:31 PM
A couple of posters mentioned that we are all human, we all make mistakes, give him a break.

NO! He's the fricking President of the United States fer chrissake. He makes the whole country look like a big trailer park when he talks like that. He represents us! I don't want some illiterate fool representing me when he speaks. (He may not be illiterate but he sounds illiterate. Image is everything.) Nucylar. Puhleeeeese.
 
2003-01-15 04:28:37 PM
Korovyov :
WarmBeer -- To BS, does not one normally have to be articulate?


Only to verbally BS. There are plenty of other forms of BS, though.
 
2003-01-15 04:29:14 PM
I would love to write speeches for W. It would be an exercise in restraint. Strategy no, plan, yes. Underestimate, no. Hmm, what then? Sell me short? Maybe. With Bush, one would need to keep the speaker as much in mind as the audience. There was an essay written about the clout of short words but I've not been able to find it since I read it months ago. It is fun to find the shortest way to say things. Sometimes.
 
2003-01-15 04:29:24 PM
I personally think that the advent of e-mail and chat as primary forms of communication have as much to do with the degeneration of the English language as anything else. I believe that I'm one of the only people left who types my words out and uses capitalization and punctuation instead of cutesy little abbreviations and symbols. It's laziness in the interest of speed and nothing more.
 
2003-01-15 04:29:41 PM
Interlocutor writes: Doesn't it seem like people's grammatical knowledge has decreased concurrent with their access to spellcheck?

Huh? Do you mean spelling?
 
2003-01-15 04:29:52 PM
Eraser8:

I don't know what part of Georgia you're from, but I had no problem going into my local elementary school, standing in line for a bit, showing them my info, then going and doing the actual voting process, which took perhaps 5-10 minutes.

(BTW: I voted Republican, along with most of my county, I imagine. Ahh, Cobb County, that wonderful bastion of the GOP.)
 
2003-01-15 04:30:35 PM
Megalomanic:
kickass song from KMFDM's Symbols album
 
2003-01-15 04:31:10 PM
The problem with improper grammar usage is becoming gihugeic.

Good GOD! My surly band of cohorts and I have been using that ::word:: for years, and I've just now realized I CAN'T SPELL IT!

>gihyoogic? ;P

ah,nevermind
 
2003-01-15 04:31:18 PM
Sorry to be annoying, because I agree with your basic point, but the apostrophe in possessives replaces a missing latter 'e' which was possessed by English up until the 17th century or so.

I actually find that to be quite interesting.
 
2003-01-15 04:31:52 PM
correction.........Megalomaniac.......dammit

it's because I cut and pasted the word from some dumbass' comment....shoulda just spelled it out myself
 
2003-01-15 04:32:11 PM
Huh? Do you mean spelling?

Yes, that, but not only that.
 
2003-01-15 04:32:48 PM
I wish Bush would "resignate" from the presidency.
 
2003-01-15 04:33:30 PM
Eraser8

Very true. I'll continue my promotion for The Bush Dyslexicon. The book details how Bush and his team are obsessed with "staying on message", even if he needs to work the topic around to a completely different subject. Soundbytes perfectly suited for television media to easily spoonfeed to the masses with a short attention span.
 
2003-01-15 04:34:00 PM
01-15-03 04:28:11 PM Whatwherewhy
JennyBean- "none of read for pleasure."
Good thing you're an avid reader. Try being an avid writer next.


Terribly sorry, Whatwherewhy. I left out the word whom.
 
2003-01-15 04:34:04 PM
Of course...Bush may be bad, but a president that needs to know what the definition of "is" is, must be cream of the crop. Feh.
 
2003-01-15 04:34:48 PM
They forget my favorite Bush-ism. "Rout out the enemy whereever he is." when referring to enemies hiding in caves.

I thought the proper term was root but I could be rong.
 
2003-01-15 04:35:04 PM
For the record I voted for Gore, even though I am a Republican. At first I was happy with what Bush has been doing, but his approval rating from me is about 10% now.

Also, grammar nazis, I am a reporter and a copy editor. So while seeing typos online does annoy me, it is not something I am ever going to dedicate a whole post to. The fact of the matter is that when we type, we make mistakes. I am not going to proofread every post I put on Fark, sorry, I do enough of that at work.
 
2003-01-15 04:36:12 PM
Bushismes are stupid.
Bushes thinking is primitive.
The presidentes verbal skills decrease the countryes respect for him.

Sorry, just trying out some 16th C. grammar
 
2003-01-15 04:36:41 PM
EggSniper
I thought the last presidential election made it pretty clear that voting is futile.

Agreed. How can my individual vote count if every time the votes are tallied a different number results?
 
2003-01-15 04:36:51 PM
I can tolerate most of today's misunderEnglish except for those would of, could of, should of things, although I can kind of see where that comes from, sort of.
 
2003-01-15 04:37:03 PM
Rational ignorance says "Stupid people, please don't vote."
 
2003-01-15 04:37:31 PM
01-15-03 04:03:15 PM Young_Fart
01-15-03 04:02:00 PM PowerSlacker
Strategery.

That is all.

That's from SNL. You lose. Play again.

Young_Fart: I know that. But still, it's the Bush effect on our language, even if indirect. And if I had my 2000 vote back, I'd give to Bush again. Dear God, Gore/Lieberman gave me the creeps.
 
2003-01-15 04:37:56 PM
Eraser8
Aias and Hayduke, you are right. Bush is not an idiot. But, he regards the American people as idiots -- and, quite frankly, he has a good argument. He has found out, through experience, that people pay a lot of attention to feigned sincerity and promises of compassion but pay absolutely no attention to what is actually enacted in policy.

What disconnect has there been between what Bush has said and his policies? While you may not like his policies, he's been more consistent than most presidents in following through with the ideas and promises on which he was elected.
 
2003-01-15 04:38:06 PM
Welcome to Apathyville. Population: Me.
 
2003-01-15 04:39:05 PM
I never actually saw this documented, but did Bush actually say to the Colombian president that he needed to burn down all the cocoa plantations?
 
2003-01-15 04:40:34 PM
Cocaine comes from the coca plant. Whether or not Bush said "cocoa" is beyond me.
 
2003-01-15 04:40:50 PM
CapnUgly :
Of course...Bush may be bad, but a president that needs to know what the definition of "is" is, must be cream of the crop. Feh.


That's called "being a lawyer". Clinton wasn't dumb, he was became overly technical as a means of defense. That's actually something that takes a certain level of intelligence. Clinton may have been a bit slimey, and unfaithful to his wife, and many other things, but intellectually he could run rings around Dubya. I think even many Republican strategists would tell you that.
 
2003-01-15 04:41:04 PM
Dumbing down indeed. The last line of this piece is the clincher. I want out.
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Tallahassee, Connecticut
In 1988 the National Geographic Society conducted an extensive survey to determine what Americans knew about geography. Not much, as it turned out. Last year National Geographic (in conjunction with the market-research firm RoperASW) conducted a follow-up study to see if Americans' geographic literacy had improved over the intervening fourteen years. Unsurprisingly, it hadn't. Despite recent events fewer than one in five Americans aged eighteen to twenty-four could locate Afghanistan on a world map, and only one in seven could locate Iraq on a map of the Middle East and Asia. Nor did Americans have much success in identifying U.S. states: barely half could find New York, and only a third could find New Jersey. Worst of all, 10 percent of Americans could not find the United States on a world map. And although it provides little solace to consider some of the strange lacunae in Europeans' knowledge (for instance, despite the 355-mile border between Germany and the Netherlands, nearly a third of Germans couldn't identify the latter-which they seemed to locate just fine in 1940), Americans can take heart from this: more than a third of young adults in the United States were able to place the island used for the fourth season of the television series Survivor in the South Pacific.

Source: -National Geographic-Roper 2002 Global Geographic Literacy Survey
 
2003-01-15 04:41:25 PM
he was became

"just became". Dammit. Dammit! 3rd time today.
 
2003-01-15 04:42:08 PM
Maggatola -- Claiming to be a "uniter, rather than divider", for one -- of course, the claim was guaranteed to fail because of the unbreachable chasms on certain hot-button issues. Another was his posing as a dedicated free trader, but then tossing steelworkers a favor in order to get votes from PA and WV. He also, if memory serves, promised to lead on Social Security (nada so far), and to respect the Constitution (and later pushing for less distance between church and state).
 
2003-01-15 04:42:22 PM
Like anyone here has room to criticize.
 
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