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(Huffington Post)   "Local news reports, meanwhile, suggest that it was Obama chief-of-staff Rahm Emanuel who blew the whistle on the governor."   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 123
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2008-12-09 01:51:42 PM  
that would be an interesting twist...
 
2008-12-09 01:56:52 PM  
Not really a twist at all, the gov was trying to extort Senator Obama, read the phone call transcripts
 
2008-12-09 01:58:56 PM  
keiverarrow: Not really a twist at all, the gov was trying to extort Senator Obama, read the phone call transcripts

Extortion requires that he have something over the head of Obama...
 
2008-12-09 02:01:54 PM  
keiverarrow: Not really a twist at all, the gov was trying to extort Senator Obama, read the phone call transcripts

Extorting a (soon to be) President? That's pretty ballsy. That's the kind of thing that gets you found dead of "suicide" by joggers in a DC park. At least, it used to be.
 
2008-12-09 02:01:58 PM  
dj_bigbird: keiverarrow: Not really a twist at all, the gov was trying to extort Senator Obama, read the phone call transcripts

Extortion requires that he have something over the head of Obama...


Obama made a suggestion of who he wanted to fill Obama's seat (something that Obama has the right to do). Blagojevich put a price tag on appointing that person as Obama's replacement. That is extortion.
 
2008-12-09 02:04:01 PM  
No honor among thieves.
 
2008-12-09 02:12:41 PM  
burndtdan: /on an aside, i had never seen rahmbo's half-finger before i saw this picture

I didn't know he had half a finger...is he a witch?
 
2008-12-09 02:16:33 PM  
what_now: I didn't know he had half a finger...is he a witch?

real story: he cut it off in a meat slicer working at arby's when he was young.

better story: he gave a political opponent a vicious UFIA and broke it off
 
2008-12-09 02:18:39 PM  
what_now: burndtdan: /on an aside, i had never seen rahmbo's half-finger before i saw this picture

I didn't know he had half a finger...is he a witch?


That made me snicker. Spill coffee on cat. Poor cat.
 
2008-12-09 02:20:07 PM  
dj_bigbird: Extortion requires that he have something over the head of Obama...

OGM!!1 BLAGOVITCH HAS TEH WHITEY TAPE!11!
 
2008-12-09 02:21:21 PM  
burndtdan: real story: he cut it off in a meat slicer working at arby's when he was young.

....shut the hell up...REALLY??
 
2008-12-09 02:22:52 PM  
 
2008-12-09 02:23:07 PM  
burndtdan: real story: he cut it off in a meat slicer working at arby's when he was young.

Nah, he was so angry at the Clinton's enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting 'Dead! ... Dead! ... Dead!' and plunging the knife into the table after every name. He missed once, and sliced off his finger.

/More than half of that story is true.
 
2008-12-09 02:25:12 PM  
what_now: burndtdan: real story: he cut it off in a meat slicer working at arby's when he was young.

....shut the hell up...REALLY??


So? I cut my finger on a slicer when I worked in a deli and you don't see my story in the paper.
 
2008-12-09 02:26:32 PM  
NeverDrunk23: So? I cut my finger on a slicer when I worked in a deli and you don't see my story in the paper.

Become the White House Chief of Staff and we'll talk, stubby.
 
2008-12-09 02:27:05 PM  
You mean Chicago politicians might have blown the whistle on corruption? You mean they might not all be corrupt just by virtue of being from there? Fark Independents, please come explain this paradox!!! I don't know what to think.
 
2008-12-09 02:28:03 PM  
TFA: Indeed, in the affidavit, Blagojevich called Obama a "motherfarker" for wanting him to appoint an official that the governor either did not like or wouldn't receive money from.

wow. you don't see it so cut and dry very often.
 
2008-12-09 02:28:16 PM  
what_now: NeverDrunk23: So? I cut my finger on a slicer when I worked in a deli and you don't see my story in the paper.

Become the White House Chief of Staff and we'll talk, stubby.


Well, when you put it that way.....
 
2008-12-09 02:30:40 PM  
I just want to point out that if Obama indeed is behind this, my admiration for him just shot up quite a bit.

Also, Hillary Clinton is lucky she didn't find a horse's head in bed with her, because that is bad ass.
 
2008-12-09 02:31:18 PM  
Code_Archeologist: Obama made a suggestion of who he wanted to fill Obama's seat (something that Obama has the right to do). Blagojevich put a price tag on appointing that person as Obama's replacement. That is extortion.

No, I'm pretty sure it's not.
 
2008-12-09 02:34:27 PM  
lunchinlewis

You're thinking of blackmail
 
2008-12-09 02:36:30 PM  
Candidate #5 for the Senate seat was Jesse Jackson, Jr. I LOVE Chicago politics. I love even more that Obama was brought up through this mess and it never touched or soiled him. Simply amazing.
 
2008-12-09 02:36:32 PM  
Code_Archeologist: Obama made a suggestion of who he wanted to fill Obama's seat (something that Obama has the right to do). Blagojevich put a price tag on appointing that person as Obama's replacement. That is extortion corruption.
 
2008-12-09 02:37:10 PM  
burndtdan: /on an aside, i had never seen rahmbo's half-finger before i saw this picture

JERRY LIVES!


/or maybe Frodo, whatever.
 
MIU
2008-12-09 02:37:30 PM  
Code_Archeologist: Extortion requires that he have something over the head of Obama...

Obama made a suggestion of who he wanted to fill Obama's seat (something that Obama has the right to do). Blagojevich put a price tag on appointing that person as Obama's replacement. That is extortion.


No, it's influence peddling, not extortion. Extortion requires a threat.
 
2008-12-09 02:38:14 PM  
Code_Archeologist: Blagojevich put a price tag on appointing that person as Obama's replacement. That is extortion.

No. That's corruption.

Extortion would be doing something damaging to Obama unless Obamada did something for Blagojevitch.
 
2008-12-09 02:38:30 PM  
burndtdan: "blago's anus will be this large after trying to fark with us."

/on an aside, i had never seen rahmbo's half-finger before i saw this picture


/seriously thought he was getting ready for the reverse-shocker.
 
2008-12-09 02:39:32 PM  
F5 F5 F5

And where the hell do the extra characters come from?

Flab: Obamada
 
2008-12-09 02:40:16 PM  
Tatsuhiko: burndtdan: "blago's anus will be this large after trying to fark with us."

/on an aside, i had never seen rahmbo's half-finger before i saw this picture

/seriously thought he was getting ready for the reverse-shocker.


The show-stopper?
 
2008-12-09 02:40:18 PM  
Rahm makes Cheney look like a nice guy to go hunting with.
 
2008-12-09 02:40:56 PM  
what_now: ....shut the hell up...REALLY??

my favorite "Rahm's middle finger" story is from a youtube of an old epilepsy foundation fundraiser at Obama (and others) are roasting Emmanuel.

Obama tells the story of how Rahm losing his middle finger to a meat slicer, practically rendering him mute. While the folks are laughing, Obama asks the crowd jokingly, "Has he ever waggled that thing at you? It's horrifying!" or some such.

Good times...
 
2008-12-09 02:41:27 PM  
WaltzingMathilda: You mean Chicago politicians might have blown the whistle on corruption? You mean they might not all be corrupt just by virtue of being from there? Fark Independents, please come explain this paradox!!! I don't know what to think.

Blago's time was drawing near. He had fallen out of favor with the major IL political families, and everybody knew he was under investigation. Reporting him for this could be more just hastening the inevitable while reaping a political reward than standing by any principle of honesty and openness.

Not sayin' that Obama was involved, just sayin' that turning in Blago at this point makes far more sense than not doing it.
 
2008-12-09 02:42:01 PM  
keiverarrow: lunchinlewis

You're thinking of blackmail


No, I'm not thinking of either.

If you make a new recipe, and ask me to name it, I might say "name it Chocolate Doo-Doo Balls". You can say, Ok, I'll name it that for $50,000. If I say "go fark yourself", has there been extortion or blackmail?
 
2008-12-09 02:43:23 PM  
lunchinlewis: keiverarrow: lunchinlewis

You're thinking of blackmail

No, I'm not thinking of either.

If you make a new recipe, and ask me to name it, I might say "name it Chocolate Doo-Doo Balls". You can say, Ok, I'll name it that for $50,000. If I say "go fark yourself", has there been extortion or blackmail?


I'd say he's hired you to name his balls.
 
2008-12-09 02:44:04 PM  
TheDumbBlonde: Candidate #5 for the Senate seat was Jesse Jackson, Jr. I LOVE Chicago politics. I love even more that Obama was brought up through this mess and it never touched or soiled him. Simply amazing.

One thing to keep in mind is that Obama was really not too involved with chicago politics. It's been oft said that Chicago really doesn't care what happens in Springfield. Obama did do his community organizing in Chicago and did probably have some degree of contact with the 'machine' but never having run for alderman or anything he probably was able to keep himself out of the more dirty parts of the Chicago Way.
 
Bf+
2008-12-09 02:44:13 PM  
NeverDrunk23: what_now: burndtdan: real story: he cut it off in a meat slicer working at arby's when he was young.

....shut the hell up...REALLY??

So? I cut my finger on a slicer when I worked in a deli and you don't see my story in the paper.



Yeah? Well think of how many passes it took to cut the finger as short as it is...
 
2008-12-09 02:44:28 PM  
Nabb1:
Extorting a (soon to be) President? That's pretty ballsy. That's the kind of thing that gets you found dead of "suicide" by joggers in a DC park. At least, it used to be.



Ah Rock Creek Park.
 
2008-12-09 02:44:39 PM  
ex·tor·tion (ĭk-stôr'shən)
n.
1. The act or an instance of extorting.
2. Illegal use of one's official position or powers to obtain property, funds, or patronage.
3. An excessive or exorbitant charge.
4. Something extorted.

Sounds like extortion to me. The governor has the official position that allows him to appoint the next senator. He illegally tried to use that position to obtain "property, funds or patronage" from Obama. Case closed.
 
2008-12-09 02:46:12 PM  
Rahm Emanuel has two speeds: walk and kill.
 
2008-12-09 02:46:13 PM  
lunchinlewis: If you make a new recipe, and ask me to name it, I might say "name it Chocolate Doo-Doo Balls". You can say, Ok, I'll name it that for $50,000. If I say "go fark yourself", has there been extortion or blackmail?

That depends. What's in the recipe?
 
2008-12-09 02:46:35 PM  
Decados: One thing to keep in mind is that Obama was really not too involved with chicago politics

Exactly. Obama is too busy curing Ebola, feeding Ethiopia, and holding up the arctic ice shelf with his left toe to also clean up Chicago politics. The man can only do so much by himself.
 
2008-12-09 02:46:56 PM  
NathanAllen: Rahm makes Cheney look like a nice guy to go hunting with.

How many people has Rham Emmanuel accidentally shot?
 
2008-12-09 02:47:09 PM  
Here we go. LGTV (pops).
 
2008-12-09 02:47:33 PM  
Well, I don't see here that much of a problem except the bit where the article implies that he wanted money for himself. That would be corruption and the selling of his pick. But the article is sketchy on the details of those calls. There may be meat to this story but the article isn't helping.
 
2008-12-09 02:47:36 PM  
Has anyone tried to source this yet? After seeing article after article reporting this without giving any clue as to the source, it seems to just be an anonymous tip to a FOX affiliate.
 
2008-12-09 02:47:57 PM  
keylock71: NathanAllen: Rahm makes Cheney look like a nice guy to go hunting with.

How many people has Rham Emmanuel accidentally shot?


0, he shot them on purpose.
 
2008-12-09 02:48:02 PM  
Well... what ever it is, it is Obama for the second time in a year exposing corruption in the Democratic party for what it was. The first time was refusing to give Philadelphia ward bosses "walking around money", and now this.
 
2008-12-09 02:48:06 PM  
did anyone else notice the disturbing overuse of the word "taint" throughout the article??
 
2008-12-09 02:48:08 PM  
WaltzingMathilda: You mean Chicago politicians might have blown the whistle on corruption? You mean they might not all be corrupt just by virtue of being from there? Fark Independents, please come explain this paradox!!! I don't know what to think.

There are more of us than you think, but not enough of us yet. My alderman voted against the plan to privatize city parking meters, calling it short-sighted among other things. His was one of 5 dissenting votes in a measure which passed.

A friend of mine tried to run for alderman (in a ward considered historically "reform" since the '70s). We spoke at length about his campaign -- he was patently against any "pay-to-play" and was constantly on the lookout for it in his ward. Of course, he was trounced in the primaries.
 
2008-12-09 02:48:11 PM  
keylock71: How many people has Rham Emmanuel accidentally shot?

Oh, accidentally...
 
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