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(The Consumerist)   Walgreens sells Plan B pills, but not without making you feel like a cheap, filthy whore first   (consumerist.com) divider line 317
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2008-12-01 04:04:07 PM
Oh for the love of all things reasonable, this is a CONTRACEPTIVE! It's administered PRIOR to conception! You know, so the gal doesn't have to get abortion later.

/MS went full 'tard.
 
2008-12-01 04:07:37 PM
Walgreens sells Plan B pills, but not without making you feel like a cheap, filthy whore first

Sounds like a win-win situation!
 
2008-12-01 04:08:52 PM
A plan to discourage purchase through labyrinthine red tape? Sounds like every insurance company I've ever tried to file a claim with.
 
2008-12-01 04:10:14 PM
and she went to a corporate Wallgreens... I can only imagine how the little local store reacts in this little town
 
2008-12-01 04:12:02 PM
So let me get this straight:

1) She asked for Plan B
2) Walgreens gave her Plan B, though they weren't happy about it
3) OMFG FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION I WILL NOTIFY THE INTERNET IMMEDIATELY!!!111

Right?
 
2008-12-01 04:17:26 PM
floor9:

So let me get this straight:

1) She asked for Plan B
2) Walgreens gave her Plan B, though they weren't happy about it
3) OMFG FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION I WILL NOTIFY THE INTERNET IMMEDIATELY!!!111

Right?


Wrong. It's a legal, non-prescription drug that only needs proof of age. That's it. FTFA: The pharmacist then went about getting the pill, but they also seem to have a policy, a lá abortion clinics, of forcing a waiting period of an hour and giving adoption literature to the person requesting the contraceptive. Next time you go to buy condoms, see if you're put through this kind of scrutiny.
 
2008-12-01 04:19:02 PM
If this choade spent half the time he wasted writing this letter to slap on a rubber, maybe his whore girlfriend wouldn't need the pill.
 
2008-12-01 04:22:29 PM
The article reads as if someone who didn't receive speedy-quick service from the staff at a discount pharmacy has chosen to attribute that to motives conducive to a sense of persecution.

Occam's Razor (and history) may indicate that service sucks at Walgreens. For everybody. All the time. Forever.
 
2008-12-01 04:22:32 PM
It makes me sick to hear stories like this.

If you're a pharmacist working for a drugstore that you know carries a certain product, then you have an an absolute duty to dispense it without any hassles (except for honest medical concern). If you've got a moral problem with a particular medication, the choices are to either suck it up or work somewhere more in line with your morals.

Unprofessional asses.
 
2008-12-01 04:23:08 PM
RagingLeonard: If this choade spent half the time he wasted writing this letter to slap on a rubber, maybe his whore girlfriend wouldn't need the pill.

(click profile)

(location: Deep in the heart of Texas)

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise
 
2008-12-01 04:32:48 PM
FredaDeStilleto: forcing a waiting period of an hour

Oh I'm sorry, I accidentally read the part where she got it immediately. FTFA: "In the end, my girlfriend demanded the Plan B immediately, and she got it" I also missed the part where they superglued the adoption materials into her hands. Last time I checked, we have both a free market and a freedom of speech here; she can and should shop elsewhere, and they can make whatever moral rant they want.

Watchman: The article reads as if someone who didn't receive speedy-quick service from the staff at a discount pharmacy has chosen to attribute that to motives conducive to a sense of persecution.

The one thing all these WaiterRant knockoffs and "LOL I HAET RETAIL BCUZ..." threads have done is clarify that a lot of times, retail employees and/or customers exaggerate the fark out of their stories. And The Consumerist is no exception. Somewhere along the line they stopped caring and will now publish any story at all:

So we were in line at Wal Mart and the cashier, who was this HUGE woman of unbelievable girth with a crucifix necklace and a XXXXL T-shirt that read "I love Jesus and hate non-Christians and I hope you all die because 9/11 and George W. Bush is the greatest president ever", stopped before ringing up our order. Apparently she had one of those institutional-size jars of mayo tucked under the counter and she was eating fistfuls in-between customers. I very politely explained that we were in a hurry by saying "Ma'am, I'm terribly sorry to inconvenience you, but would you be so kind as to possibly ring our items with all haste? As you can see we only have two items, and..." But then suddenly she interrupted me and took a massive dump on my girlfriend and then tried to punch me but I used my cat-like ninja skills to beat her into a pulp and then because I'm a nice guy I apologized profusely but she was all "HJKFASDFSDUIFA" and then Wal-Mart sued us and we got arrested and they said it was because we weren't Christian enough but then I threatened to call my lawyer and they backed off real fast so I think we should all get together and call this store continuously 24 hours a day and yell "FART" whenever they answer the phone.
 
2008-12-01 04:34:35 PM
HappyHarryHardOn: I am Jack's complete lack of surprise

That's got to be the first time I've seen someone accuse "responsible behavior" of being a purely Texan value.

Ever.
 
2008-12-01 04:46:05 PM
Watchman: The article reads as if someone who didn't receive speedy-quick service from the staff at a discount pharmacy has chosen to attribute that to motives conducive to a sense of persecution.

Occam's Razor (and history) may indicate that service sucks at Walgreens. For everybody. All the time. Forever.


They tried to make her wait an hour and gave her adoption literature. I think that falls a tad outside of incompetent.
 
2008-12-01 04:49:40 PM
floor9: HappyHarryHardOn: I am Jack's complete lack of surprise

That's got to be the first time I've seen someone accuse "responsible behavior" of being a purely Texan value.

Ever.


I think we must have read 2 different posts
 
2008-12-01 04:52:41 PM
floor9: You fail at reading comprehension. Let me make this easy for you.

1. Girl goes to pharmacy to purchase spermicide.
2. Purchase requires only proof of age.
3. Girl asks pharmacy worker for spermicide and shows proof of age.
4. Pharmacy worker wants proof of insurance in addition to ID.
5. Proof of insurance is not necessary to purchase product.
6. Girl asks to speak to pharmacist
7. Pharmacist tells girl she needs to wait 1 hour and take literature on adoption before pharmacist will sell her spermicide.
8. Girl demands that they IMMEDIATELY give her the spermicide.
9. Girl gets spermicide.

The pharmacist needs to quit if s/he feels the need to personally control the sale of legal merchandise.
 
2008-12-01 05:04:48 PM
vartian: They tried to make her wait an hour and gave her adoption literature. I think that falls a tad outside of incompetent.

The article says "The pharmacist then went about getting the pill, but they also seem to have a policy... " They do not have such a policy, so I read that as "they were moving slower than I'd like". It sounded like every other description of bad service I read online.

In fact, here's a quote from a Pro-Life Pharmacist website that is complaining about Walgreen's dispensing of Plan B:

Walgreens' policy in ALL states, not just Illinois, is to force their pharmacists to be complicit in the dispensing of Plan B, and to gag them, preventing them from offering mechanistic information about the drug to women, because the motivation for giving it, and the need for receiving it, is the religious conviction that all human life has value.


It is still my opinion that the original story was told in such a way as to maximize and justify their righteous indignation.
 
2008-12-01 05:06:19 PM
FredaDeStilleto: floor9: You fail at reading comprehension. Let me make this easy for you.

1. Girl goes to pharmacy to purchase spermicide.
2. Purchase requires only proof of age.
3. Girl asks pharmacy worker for spermicide and shows proof of age.
4. Pharmacy worker wants proof of insurance in addition to ID.
5. Proof of insurance is not necessary to purchase product.
6. Girl asks to speak to pharmacist
7. Pharmacist tells girl she needs to wait 1 hour and take literature on adoption before pharmacist will sell her spermicide.
8. Girl demands that they IMMEDIATELY give her the spermicide.
9. Girl gets spermicide.

The pharmacist needs to quit if s/he feels the need to personally control the sale of legal merchandise.


I'm fairly certain Plan B != spermicide, regardless of what TFA says.
 
2008-12-01 05:09:11 PM
Also, anyone in defense of pharmacists denying medicine based on their moral indignation:

If you were religiously opposed to people looking at naked women, would you get a job as the bouncer of a strip club?
 
2008-12-01 05:10:48 PM
So the cheap filthy whore is mad about being treated like a cheap filthy whore?
 
2008-12-01 05:16:57 PM
incendi: If you were religiously opposed to people looking at naked women, would you get a job as the bouncer of a strip club?

Plan B is only a few years old, strippers have been in business for a bit longer than that. Not that I think it's wrong, it just makes your comparison kinda silly.
 
2008-12-01 05:22:43 PM
incendi: I'm fairly certain Plan B != spermicide, regardless of what TFA says.

In a roundabout way kinda... but that's really pushing it. It is supposed to prevent Ovulation long enough for the sperm to die.
 
2008-12-01 05:23:50 PM
R.A.Danny: So the cheap filthy whore is mad about being treated like a cheap filthy whore?

Enjoying Sex and not wanting a child =/= Whore.

If it did we would have several married whores in this country.

/not saying we don't
 
2008-12-01 05:24:15 PM
Watchman: It is still my opinion that the original story was told in such a way as to maximize and justify their righteous indignation.

The girl did sound annoying and self-righteous as all hell, I'll give you that :)
 
2008-12-01 05:27:31 PM
dragyne: Enjoying Sex and not wanting a child =/= Whore.

I meant that only in the most loving way, I LOVE cheap dirty whores.
 
2008-12-01 05:49:38 PM
HappyHarryHardOn: RagingLeonard: If this choade spent half the time he wasted writing this letter to slap on a rubber, maybe his whore girlfriend wouldn't need the pill.

(click profile)

(location: Deep in the heart of Texas)

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise


I am HappyHarryHardOn's complete lack of a sense of humor.
 
2008-12-01 06:18:17 PM
HA. I am a male so birth control is the female's responsibility.
 
2008-12-01 06:18:52 PM
TFA: I live in Oxford, MS.

Ah, this is where you went wrong.
 
2008-12-01 06:20:00 PM
RagingLeonard: If this choade spent half the time he wasted writing this letter to slap on a rubber, maybe his whore girlfriend wouldn't need the pill.

That would be a sin, too.
 
2008-12-01 06:20:14 PM
Plan B is not a spermicide. It's a morning after pill (progestin).
 
2008-12-01 06:21:04 PM
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Though honestly no one ever gave me shiat when I picked up my BC patch every month. On the other hand, my doctor flat out refused to even discusse Essure with me. Seriously, some consistency would be nice.
 
2008-12-01 06:21:09 PM
Good gods, I've bought it before and never had a problem at all - they ask a few health questions to rule out contraindications, but I don't even have to give my name or age, here. If those pharmacists dispense birth control pills, then they should be dispensing plan B without issue. The controversial, unproven, mechanisms of ECPs are also likely true of standard hormonal birth control, should they exist (the prevention of implantation issue.)

I am pro-life, but I view free access to ECPs as a damned good way of helping PREVENT abortions. Suck it up and dispense the damned pills already.
 
2008-12-01 06:21:09 PM
I got carded when I went to buy NA Beer. Stupid mormons.
 
2008-12-01 06:21:55 PM
Sounds like the guy and his gf were being complete choades, and the allready overworked pharmacy staff dident give them class A atomic-powered speed service
 
2008-12-01 06:22:03 PM
This guy said Walgreens was "uppity" so I have discounted his entire statement as being racist.
 
2008-12-01 06:22:16 PM
floor9: So let me get this straight:

1) She asked for Plan B
2) Walgreens gave her Plan B, though they weren't happy about it proceeded to demand personal information akin to ID theft that they aren't permitted to access.
3) OMFG FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION I WILL NOTIFY THE INTERNET IMMEDIATELY!!!111

Right?


Wrong, unless you like to deal with morons like at this backwards pharmacy.
 
2008-12-01 06:22:33 PM
FredaDeStilleto: floor9: You fail at reading comprehension. Let me make this easy for you.

1. Girl goes to pharmacy to purchase spermicide.
2. Purchase requires only proof of age.
3. Girl asks pharmacy worker for spermicide and shows proof of age.
4. Pharmacy worker wants proof of insurance in addition to ID.
5. Proof of insurance is not necessary to purchase product.
6. Girl asks to speak to pharmacist
7. Pharmacist tells girl she needs to wait 1 hour and take literature on adoption before pharmacist will sell her spermicide.
8. Girl demands that they IMMEDIATELY give her the spermicide.
9. Girl gets spermicide.

The pharmacist needs to quit if s/he feels the need to personally control the sale of legal merchandise.


Don't interrupt the freeper troll when he's riffing.
 
2008-12-01 06:23:34 PM
This is defintely not a national coorporate policy.

I purchased Plan B from a Walgreens pharmacy not that long ago and all they asked for was my money. Handed the stuff right over, no hassle or even a dirty look.

The only restrction they have is that the person takin the pill needs to be the one picking it up (no dudes, essentially.)
 
2008-12-01 06:23:40 PM
If you have a religious objection to doing your job, you need to find a new line of work.
 
2008-12-01 06:24:03 PM
12.fl.oz.: HA. I am a male so birth control is the female's responsibility.

Like hell it is. Wait until she sues you for child support.
 
2008-12-01 06:25:32 PM
Watchman: In fact, here's a quote from a Pro-Life Pharmacist website that is complaining about Walgreen's dispensing of Plan B:

Walgreens' policy in ALL states, not just Illinois, is to force their pharmacists to be complicit in the dispensing of Plan B, and to gag them, preventing them from offering mechanistic information about the drug to women, because the motivation for giving it, and the need for receiving it, is the religious conviction that all human life has value.

It is still my opinion that the original story was told in such a way as to maximize and justify their righteous indignation.


Or maybe, just maybe, the woman came across the kind of Walgreens pharmacist who wants to "offer[ ] mechanistic [?] information about the drug to women" and decided to impose his own set of policies instead of Walgreens'? The story is entirely plausible. Nevertheless, if your quoted website is correct that Walgreens' policy is to "gag" pharmacists, then a complaint to the Walgreens District Manager (and the state pharmacy board to boot, although TFA says pharmacists can refuse to dispense it) ought to go a long way towards solving the problem once and for all.
 
2008-12-01 06:25:43 PM
I like how Walgreens won't sell beer.
 
2008-12-01 06:25:50 PM
R.A.Danny: incendi: If you were religiously opposed to people looking at naked women, would you get a job as the bouncer of a strip club?

Plan B is only a few years old, strippers have been in business for a bit longer than that. Not that I think it's wrong, it just makes your comparison kinda silly.


This is either a great troll or the stupidest thing I have ever read in my life.
 
2008-12-01 06:26:11 PM
Gamer Grrrl: Oh for the love of all things reasonable, this is a CONTRACEPTIVE! It's administered PRIOR to conception! You know, so the gal doesn't have to get abortion later.

/MS went full 'tard.


No it isn't. And as TFA says, it is NOT an extra spermacide either. Plan B is a megadose of birth control- essentially taking several doses of a regular birth control drug all at once (instead of once a day). It is NOT a spermacide because it doesn't kill sperm. It is NOT a contraceptive, because it can't stop sperm from fertilizing an egg (the definition of conception). What it DOES do is prevent implantation of a fertilized egg into the uterine wall. It will not terminate a pregnancy of an already implanted fertilized egg. It is also extraordinarily expensive to use as birth control- cash price is about $40 or so at my wife's pharmacy; regular birth control pills or condoms are FAR cheaper.

This pharmacy may be breaking a law in addition to store policy. But one Walgreens doing this doesn't equate to it being a national chain policy.
 
2008-12-01 06:26:54 PM
Ringshadow: Though honestly no one ever gave me shiat when I picked up my BC patch every month. On the other hand, my doctor flat out refused to even discusse Essure with me. Seriously, some consistency would be nice.

Blargh. That's another one of my peeve points. I hate that doctors assume that women always want children/more children. If someone wants to be snipped/spayed, have a reasonable waiting period, then DO IT! My ex-SIL had to go to five doctors *and* have her fiance sign off on it for her to get a tubal at 23. She didn't - and still doesn't at 41 - want kids. She should not have required a man's permission, nor should she have had to spend two years jumping through hoops to show that she was serious. I'm 21, and evaluating whether I truly want to/should ever have another child. I know I don't stand a snowball's chance of actually being sterilized for at least 5-6 years should that be my decision. Ridiculous.
 
2008-12-01 06:26:55 PM
Why?
Better than plan C. I think a pill that prevents conception seems like a good alternative to the likes of coat hangers or swift kicks to the abdomen that some of the desperate ones may resort to. With plan B the hills may not resemble white elephants.
People have made unsafe sex decisions for as long as men have had penises and girls have had vaginas, which last time I checked began with some guy in a garden who felt like ribs for dinner.
Shame on the puritan tradition for trying to be holier than thou.
 
2008-12-01 06:27:22 PM
I was gonna say, what do they do, have a bunch of oompa loompas come out of a hole in the wall and sing a song about what a cheap piece of floozy trash you are? But then I read the article, and that was not the case. Devastating.
 
2008-12-01 06:28:36 PM
Polyhazard: This is defintely not a national coorporate policy.

I purchased Plan B from a Walgreens pharmacy not that long ago and all they asked for was my money. Handed the stuff right over, no hassle or even a dirty look.

The only restrction they have is that the person takin the pill needs to be the one picking it up (no dudes, essentially.)


Obviously you don't live in bumblefark MS. And of course it's the red states that have the highest rates of teen pregnancy and STDs. Not the heathen blue states.
 
2008-12-01 06:29:41 PM
digital_Angel: 12.fl.oz.: HA. I am a male so birth control is the female's responsibility.

Like hell it is. Wait until she sues you for child support.



Can I get an "AMEN?"
 
2008-12-01 06:30:31 PM
Plan B? Who farking created this spermicide, Bela Lugosi and Ed Wood?
 
2008-12-01 06:30:32 PM
www.siad.dk

Not impressed, with the dirty whoew part that is.
 
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