incendi: I'm fairly certain Plan B != spermicide, regardless of what TFA says.

It's not a spermicide. From what I can tell with 5 minutes of googling, it prevents ovulation. I was previously under the impression that an egg took several days to go from ovary to uterus, apparently not. Given what I found, it sounds like "Plan B" has a big gaping hole of about 12 hours in it.

Then again, I could be wrong. But it's certainly not a spermicide, nor does it appear to be an abortifecant.

Once upon a time I was working the old graveyard shift at the Maverick Country Store off I-15. Late one warm June evening, a couple of cowboys pulled up in a huge Dodge. They left their ladies in the truck.

After some giggling, each feller approaches the counter with his own bottle of sodie pop and his own box of condoms.

Apparently noticing my slight grimace. one of the lugs belts out, "That's right. We're getting through both boxes tonight!"

I didn't even look up. "You must love each other very much."

The rest of my shift, I waited to be killed.

akula: Gamer Grrrl: Oh for the love of all things reasonable, this is a CONTRACEPTIVE! It's administered PRIOR to conception! You know, so the gal doesn't have to get abortion later.

/MS went full 'tard.

No it isn't. And as TFA says, it is NOT an extra spermacide either. Plan B is a megadose of birth control- essentially taking several doses of a regular birth control drug all at once (instead of once a day). It is NOT a spermacide because it doesn't kill sperm. It is NOT a contraceptive, because it can't stop sperm from fertilizing an egg (the definition of conception). What it DOES do is prevent implantation of a fertilized egg into the uterine wall. It will not terminate a pregnancy of an already implanted fertilized egg.

This was my first thought. But after reading it twice, I think her point was not that it's meant to be used as a preventative measure before intercourse, but rather that it interrupts the process of conception.

Damn.. I felt like a cheap filthy whore just trying to buy some real Sudafed. Behind the counter, needed ID, scan of ID, fill out a form...

/damnit I just had a stuffy nose!

Ringshadow

I always feel a certain sense of pride when one of my pics begins to make it's rounds.

Not sure what the problem is here. Unless they're required by law to sell it without hassle, oh well; at least it's available. If you don't like it, drive to Tupelo. What the hell else would you expect in BFE Mississippi? If I tried to buy a shotgun at a WalMart in Berkeley, I'd expect a bit of a hassle as well.

RagingLeonard: HappyHarryHardOn: RagingLeonard: If this choade spent half the time he wasted writing this letter to slap on a rubber, maybe his whore girlfriend wouldn't need the pill.

(click profile)

(location: Deep in the heart of Texas)

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise

I am HappyHarryHardOn's complete lack of a sense of humor.

oh,well, hard to tell if this was serious or not around here...

My Walgreen's story:

Went in to buy some non-latex condoms. Found them, went to the register, and the 17 y/o twat working there actually had the balls to say to me "you know some people don't approve of these...". I almost made a stink about it, but instead paid for my condoms, and walked out. Pissed off "I will kill you" face the entire time. Seriously, it's a farking drug store, sell me what I need and keep your goddamn opinions to yourself!

/letter writer guy is still an attention whore

stewmadness: Not impressed, with the dirty whoew part that is.

I will never stop being turned on by that picture. In many cases, a women's decline in beauty causes me to forget just how much she used to turn me on (I call it "The Kathleen Turner Effect").

Even when Madonna becomes - well, an ugly old Jew, and Britney becomes a bloated mess, that picture will give me instant wood.

I guess that's better than a Falcon Punch.

On the one hand, Walgreens made me wait for a callback from my doctor, and took my driver's license number, when I got birth control pills from them (but they didn't give me any literature). On the other hand, I live in San Francisco, so I'm pretty sure that wasn't a redneck/xtian thing.

In my case, it was because I was getting two packs in the same month (medically necessary, and prescribed as such).

I could very easily see the purchase of Plan B being controlled so that a patient couldn't buy more than a certain amount in a specific period of time. If any non-recreational drug were going to be sold out of a locker in a high school, this would be it. (Same with Sudafed - it's a precursor to meth).

On the third hand, I've heard at least one horror story about a Texas Walgreens screwing up AIDS meds for a traveling Californian - big news here, probably a fizzle everywhere else.

This is why people are increasingly hostile to you and your so-called God.

RagingLeonard: If this choade spent half the time he wasted writing this letter to slap on a rubber, maybe his whore girlfriend wouldn't need the pill.

Condoms do break ya know

Muck Ole Fiss and Mississippi. backwards and always will be. Jesus is supposed to come back to Mississippi but no one has seen him yet. maybe he'll straighten things out. lol

Sometimes late at night when I'm feeling a little randy, I'll phone up a 24 hr Wallgreens and ask about the Plan B pill just so they tell me what a cheap, filthy whore I am... gets me ready for the evenings activities...

In Mississippi, every sperm is sacred and deserves a name.

MidnightSkulker: Ringshadow: Though honestly no one ever gave me shiat when I picked up my BC patch every month. On the other hand, my doctor flat out refused to even discusse Essure with me. Seriously, some consistency would be nice.

Blargh. That's another one of my peeve points. I hate that doctors assume that women always want children/more children. If someone wants to be snipped/spayed, have a reasonable waiting period, then DO IT! My ex-SIL had to go to five doctors *and* have her fiance sign off on it for her to get a tubal at 23. She didn't - and still doesn't at 41 - want kids. She should not have required a man's permission, nor should she have had to spend two years jumping through hoops to show that she was serious. I'm 21, and evaluating whether I truly want to/should ever have another child. I know I don't stand a snowball's chance of actually being sterilized for at least 5-6 years should that be my decision. Ridiculous.

Wow. When I was checking in to the hospital to deliver my daughter the nurse ran down a checklist of questions. Stuck somewhere between "any problems in the pregnancy?" and "want an epidural?" was "want a tubal?" I said "hell ya" and it was done the next day. No regrets. Way cheaper and easier than constant birth control measures or another kid!

I work at Walgreens in the pharmacy so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.
This pharmacist and pharmacy technician both require a swift kick in the balls. Unless the picture on the license didn't match the person, no further identification should have been asked for. As far as the paperwork and waiting and hour? The pharmacist should be disciplined for trying to shove that down someone's throat. The company has tons of policies in place for pharmacists and other workers to make sure things like this don't happen. It is not the pharmacist's or tech's job to judge. It's their job to sell the damn product, or if they're going to take the moral high ground on it, find someone that will that is on duty at that very moment.
I'm not saying this story isn't exaggerated, but if she had to do anything more than show her license and pay for the product, it's too much. A lot of girls are already embarassed and scared to buy those kinds of products without jumping through 10 hoops.

/sells plan b every day
//pro-life

They don't want you destroying their shoe makers.

drjekel_mrhyde: RagingLeonard: If this choade spent half the time he wasted writing this letter to slap on a rubber, maybe his whore girlfriend wouldn't need the pill.

Condoms do break ya know

Seriously, I had a whole box of Lifestyles where every one broke. OK, OK, yeah, I stopped using them after like the 3rd time.

/ Durex ftw.

In other news, Walgreens just became a non-profit, a church in fact. Remember to keep an eye on the pharmacist lurking in the toy aisle when you have small boys in the store. And kids, don't accept candy from Walgreen pharamacists in Mississippi.

Gamer Grrrl: Oh for the love of all things reasonable, this is a CONTRACEPTIVE! It's administered PRIOR to conception! You know, so the gal doesn't have to get abortion later.

/MS went full 'tard.

The moment of conception is debatable according to these people.

What's Plan A? Pull out?

The Consumerist is a delightful reminder that "the customer is always right" is so very wrong.

/carry on

akula: This pharmacy may be breaking a law in addition to store policy. But one Walgreens doing this doesn't equate to it being a national chain policy.

Yup. And now that this has publicity and the story has "legs" it won't happen again.

/Media and information, it's part of the free market.

Exit seat, need the leg room.

mypalmike: Seriously, I had a whole box of Lifestyles where every one broke. OK, OK, yeah, I stopped using them after like the 3rd time.

/ Durex ftw.

Trojan ultra thin are my fav.

pudding7: I have to wait a freaking hour to pick up anything from the counter at any pharmacy I've ever been to.

Other than the helper chick asking for insurance info, what was the controversy here?

You don't need insurance info to buy plan b.

I'm really disappointed that the pharmacist hassled the patient. When I worked for a drug store a couple of years ago, the policy is that if the pharmacist on duty is not willing to dispense Plan B, they should tell the patient to come back at a different time for when the other pharmacist (if there's another) who does dispense willingly is on duty. Or recommend other pharmacies that have Plan B.

We had 2 pharmacists on rotation at the time. One was willing to dispense and the other one, not so willing to. The latter had a list of local pharmacies who had Plan B + other pharmacists who, hopefully, were on duty to dispense said drug. One patient asked for Plan B when I was on my shift and was turned away, but the pharmacist really took the time to tell her locations - even called a nearby Walgreens to ask if the pharmacist on duty would dispense.

Very much a sensitive issue.



/liking this article.
/soon-to-be Pharmacy student.

Ringshadow: Though honestly no one ever gave me shiat when I picked up my BC patch every month. On the other hand, my doctor flat out refused to even discusse Essure with me. Seriously, some consistency would be nice.

You're a Farkett so you don't get any anyhow
/Or is that male farkers don't get any

I've bought plan B before from walgreens.

Actually it was rather great.
I had no problems, and it was on a holiday and every other pharmacy in the state was closed.

Thank goodness for walgreens as far as I'm concerned.

MidnightSkulker: Ringshadow: Though honestly no one ever gave me shiat when I picked up my BC patch every month. On the other hand, my doctor flat out refused to even discusse Essure with me. Seriously, some consistency would be nice.

Blargh. That's another one of my peeve points. I hate that doctors assume that women always want children/more children. If someone wants to be snipped/spayed, have a reasonable waiting period, then DO IT! My ex-SIL had to go to five doctors *and* have her fiance sign off on it for her to get a tubal at 23. She didn't - and still doesn't at 41 - want kids. She should not have required a man's permission, nor should she have had to spend two years jumping through hoops to show that she was serious. I'm 21, and evaluating whether I truly want to/should ever have another child. I know I don't stand a snowball's chance of actually being sterilized for at least 5-6 years should that be my decision. Ridiculous.

Oh trust me, I'm right there with you. This sparring match with my doctor was over six months ago now and I'm still irritated about it. I'm currently an uninsured student, but what I figure I'll wait until I'm working and insured again to get my next annual, and lawyer up. I figure threatening to sue for age/marital status discrimination will shove my point home. Oddly enough I've ran into some guys who have had vasectomies, and they had to change doctors to get it done because their regular doctor refused.
Seriously, why the hell is it such a problem if some people would rather not have kids?

/Jeffrey.Rodriguez, I salute you for that pic
//it gets some use

Well, the other day we decided to be extra-safe and to get the Plan B pill from Walgreens here in town... Now, Plan B is just an additional spermicide, not an abortion pill, but that's another can of worms.

While I appreciate the sentiment and think that Plan B should be as easy to get as bubble gum, this individual does not understand what Plan B is, how it should be used or how it works.

I was just looking for a new OBGYN, and called some random woman on my insurance provider list who happened to be accepting new patients (I had tried like 10 that were not). I was in the process of registering with her when the admin assistant asked me if I would need birth control because this doctor doesn't dispense it for "personal reasons". I couldn't hang up the phone fast enough. In retrospect I should have said, "No I won't because I'm a lesbian... do you think she'll have a 'personal issue' with that?"

Grrrr....

Hey pharmacy types,

If a dude ever hands you a prescription for some sort of antibiotic, and you notice the dude is walking gingerly, maybe holding his nuts discreetly as possible, and you also notice that the doctor advised the patient to wear tight underwear, just keep it all business okay?

I have to agree with the watchman. The article sounds like this couple went in expecting trouble and they found it. I also feel that any merchant shouyld be able to use his sound judgment and morals (I know; most people here have no idea what they are). If a group of men in white sheets go into a hardware store wanting to buy rope and coleman lantern fuel, the merchant should have the right to refuse. If a woman walks into a gunshop/knifeshop saying her man is cheating on her and she is fed up with it, the clerk should have the right to deny her the immediate purchase. If a questionable individual wants to buy 500 lbs of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, the clerk should be allowed to make him wait. All of the above mentioned items are safe and legal to own but they all can be used to end life. If a person has a moral quandary about an item, they should not have to sell it. If any drugstore has a reservation about selling any pharmaceutical, they should just not stock it.

I have dealt with the Walgreen's in Richmond, VA and numerous occasions and never had a problem with them. I was only getting Schedule II narcotics but they were always prompt and courteous.

Of course, this is FArk where any incident of this type is immediately called "harassment" or "persecution". I saw no response from Walgreen's on the consumerist's page, so we have only heard one side of the story.

NO FEMALE SHOULD EVER ENGAGE IN SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITHOUT THE INTENT OF PROCREATION!!!

Just kidding. I like loose women, sluts and whores just as much as the next guy.

digital_Angel: 12.fl.oz.: HA. I am a male so birth control is the female's responsibility.

Like hell it is. Wait until she sues you for child support.

This is why I ALWAYS use protection. A fake name and number means never having to hear "Daddy!"

I have to side with the customer here. Giving out adoption information and telling the customer that they must wait an hour to get the pills is asinine. If you work somewhere that doesn't share your moral convictions, don't work there. Don't like that Walgreens has plan B, don't work for Walgreens (also recommend you don't shop there either), and for all that is good in this world, don't go near a Planned Parenthood clinic. This is no different than a vegetarian working for a restaurant and handing out a Peta pamphlet to every customer who ordered any meat dish.

The longest that they should have had to wait was long enough to fill the request, and if they are already prepackaged, then there should have been no wait. The drivers license number should not have been written down and the adoption stuff should never have been handed out. This clerk should have either been fired or moved to just running the front checkout. Some position where their moral believes wouldn't piss off customers wanting legal products.

Owwwwwwww...... like a paper cut, I'm so hurt after reading this....

I feel sorry for some peckerwood's girlfriend just trying to find something wrong to blog about.... geeesh...

theflatline: It is an abortion-lite if you will. You use it if the rubber broke or if you did not use at time of intercourse.


I take issue with it being called "abortion-lite". Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy. But you don't have a pregnancy until the embryo implants in the uterine wall. And without a pregnancy, you don't have a life.

Jesus was born without mortal conception - but Mary still got pregnant and carried him to term.

So unless you want to claim our Lord and Saviour was grown in a vat, you'd better shut up.

If you say conception is the beginning of life you won't get into heaven without a hundred years in Purgatory first. Jesus told me so.