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(Some Guy)   In most stunning comics twist since Lucy pulled that football away from Charlie Brown, DC Comics editor announces Bruce Wayne is not dead   (digitalspy.co.uk) divider line
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2008-11-29 02:37:35 AM  
No...

Really?

Wow.
 
2008-11-29 02:55:29 AM  
I wasn't aware that he'd been ill.

Should I send a card?
 
2008-11-29 03:22:26 AM  
He's pining for the fjords.
 
2008-11-29 04:02:27 AM  
Oh no! You mean DC didn't kill off a cash cow permanently? SHOCKING
 
2008-11-29 04:32:23 AM  
Here's what reading Batman RIP was like:

Okay. Nightwing is about to fight some guys. Wait. Now Bruce is talking with his girlfriend. And Robin is doing some stuff too, apparently. Nightwing is suddenly locked up and foaming at the mouth. How'd he get here? Maybe I'm missing a few pages. That's never happened to me before, but it's possible. No. My dealer tells me they're all like that. Maybe if I read this month's Nightwing, it'll tell me. Crap. It didn't tell me.

I'm going to stop spending money on this and buy comics that aren't disjointed messes instead.
 
2008-11-29 05:10:58 AM  

GreenAdder: How'd he get here? Maybe I'm missing a few pages. That's never happened to me before, but it's possible. No. My dealer tells me they're all like that. Maybe if I read this month's Nightwing, it'll tell me. Crap. It didn't tell me.

I'm going to stop spending money on this and buy comics that aren't disjointed messes instead.


Did you try reading Marvel's "Civil War" books? Same thing, even crappier writing.
 
2008-11-29 06:59:33 AM  
Does this mean that the football player from the Snickers commercial who hit his head and thought he was Batman will be replacing Bruce Wayne for the meantime?
 
2008-11-29 08:16:16 AM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Does this mean that the football player from the Snickers commercial who hit his head and thought he was Batman will be replacing Bruce Wayne for the meantime?


Would you like that? Would you like to ride with Batman?

/So, Batman's daddy is alive? That's what they went with?
 
2008-11-29 08:21:58 AM  
FTFA: However, Batman boss DiDio confirmed that Bruce Wayne will wear the cowl again. "He's not dead, though he'll definitely be gone for a while," he said.

Wow. At least with Superman, they pretended they weren't going to bring him back for a while. And when they finally said they were bringing Superman back, they tried to make everyone think it would be one of four other guys.

Good job DC. Way to undermine everything you've been doing and plan to do in your Batman comics.
 
2008-11-29 08:24:13 AM  
Black Glove reveals that he is actually Batman's father, Dr Thomas Wayne.

They went full retard.
 
2008-11-29 08:27:26 AM  

weezbo: So, Batman's daddy is alive? That's what they went with?


Yeah, I had a WTF moment when I read that too. So Batman apparently discovers that his long-thought-dead father is actually a villain and then falls to what should be his death but doesn't actually die.

Where have I seen this before?


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2008-11-29 08:28:54 AM  
I have no idea what this thread is about, but heres a dancing Mudkip.
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2008-11-29 08:29:50 AM  
For those comic nerds that care, I'm guessing this (combined with the supposed editorial farking of the ending to Final Crisis) means that Grant Morrison will either return to Marvel or he'll focus entirely on his creator-owned stuff, either of which works for me.
 
2008-11-29 08:48:13 AM  
No idea who I'm quoting here (some old comic author/artist) but, "It's nothing 5 minutes behind a typewriter can't fix".
 
2008-11-29 08:55:30 AM  
And the number of people suprised by this announcement reaches....

Zero.
 
2008-11-29 09:20:01 AM  

CowboyNinjaD: Wow. At least with Superman, they pretended they weren't going to bring him back for a while. And when they finally said they were bringing Superman back, they tried to make everyone think it would be one of four other guys.

Good job DC. Way to undermine everything you've been doing and plan to do in your Batman comics.


Its because the fan boys wouldn't shut up. Comic book fans suck and ruin their own medium.
 
2008-11-29 09:22:27 AM  
I tried reading Batman RIP. the end of the series is waiting for me in my comic book shop because I couldn't follow the series forward from backward.
 
2008-11-29 09:34:35 AM  
I'm pretty sure said that they weren't going to kill him off before the series started. They said it would be a "fate worse than death".

But whatever, I didn't read it, so I have no idea if it ended up sucking.
 
2008-11-29 09:37:08 AM  
And if you actually thought he was going to die, I have only one question for you: Are you retarded or something?

He's the goddamn Batman.
 
2008-11-29 09:44:39 AM  
They had Bruce's father be alive? The fark? Has DC found the bottom of the barrel and that just wasn't good enough?
 
2008-11-29 09:55:11 AM  

LograyX: They had Bruce's father be alive? The fark? Has DC found the bottom of the barrel and that just wasn't good enough?


Hey, if DC was creatively bankrupt enough to bring Barry Allen back to life as the Flash, anything is possible!

Since DC ruined everything in the past couple years, I find myself drawn to more indy books than I used to be. Thanks DC!
 
2008-11-29 09:57:12 AM  

LograyX: They had Bruce's father be alive?


Maybee he is a zombie. That would be sweet.
 
2008-11-29 10:05:08 AM  

LograyX: They had Bruce's father be alive? The fark? Has DC found the bottom of the barrel and that just wasn't good enough?


From the previous FARK thread, GORGOR's post.
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=4042744 (pops)

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2008-11-29 10:14:47 AM  
It seems there are few coherent storylines anymore, just "events" that are supposed to turn around the characters. Instead, the characters simply continue on as if nothing really happened as soon as a new writer takes over.

/glad I stopped with comics around the time "Hush" started
 
2008-11-29 10:26:00 AM  
No, Bruce's father is not alive. If you go back and read all of Morrison's run, the real villain is pretty obvious. The Devil.

No, I'm not kidding.
 
2008-11-29 10:27:09 AM  
He's not dead, he's just been busy:


Cosmo Kramer: The bus is outta control. So I grab him by the collar, I take him out of the seat, I get behind the wheel, and now I'm driving the bus.
Jerry: Wow.
George Costanza: You're Batman.
Cosmo Kramer: Yeah, yeah, I am Batman. Then the mugger, he comes to and he starts choking me. So I'm fighting him off with one hand and I kept driving the bus with the other, ya know. Then I managed to open up the door and I kicked him out the door, ya know, with my foot, ya know, at the next stop.
Jerry: You kept making all the stops?
Cosmo Kramer: Well, people kept ringing the bell.
 
2008-11-29 10:31:17 AM  

unlikely: GreenAdder: How'd he get here? Maybe I'm missing a few pages. That's never happened to me before, but it's possible. No. My dealer tells me they're all like that. Maybe if I read this month's Nightwing, it'll tell me. Crap. It didn't tell me.

I'm going to stop spending money on this and buy comics that aren't disjointed messes instead.

Did you try reading Marvel's "Civil War" books? Same thing, even crappier writing.


The main problem with Marvel's "Civil War" was that it tried telling a 10-part story in 7 parts. Like most of what Mark Millar does in his limited series runs, it's good for the first half, then it becomes a "let's see how quick we can wrap this up" for the last half.

The other problem was all the other stuff happening in the 19 different tie-in story arcs from other books that explained some of what was going on in the CW miniseries. There's a reason Marvel does this -- it's called "sales".

Still would choose Marvel over DC any day of the week, though; especially on Wednesdays.
 
2008-11-29 10:42:17 AM  

KPatrickGlover: No, Bruce's father is not alive. If you go back and read all of Morrison's run, the real villain is pretty obvious. The Devil.

No, I'm not kidding.


Batman and alter ego Bruce Wayne are not dead, according to DC Comics executive editor Dan DiDio.

The caped crusader apparently falls to his death in a helicopter explosion at the conclusion of Grant Morrison's Batman R.I.P., moments after adversary the Black Glove reveals that he is actually Batman's father, Dr Thomas Wayne.


So now, the innocent good-hearted socially-progressive parents of Bruce Wayne are now a drunkard and a heroin-addict.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Glove (pops)

Meanwhile Commissioner Gordon tries to stop a Gotham newspaper from running a story on a dossier allegedly compiled by a detective hired by the parents of Martha Wayne, which contains many shocking allegations: testimony that Thomas Wayne was a drunk who addicted his wife to heroin, insinuations that Alfred Pennyworth is Bruce Wayne's true biological father, and photographs depicting an orgy involving Thomas and Martha Wayne, Alfred, and the stars of John Mayhew's noir film "The Black Glove" and the theory that Thomas Wayne may still be alive, the "murder" of the Waynes was in truth an elaborate hoax, arranged by Thomas Wayne in order to kill his unfaithful wife and fake his own death.


// Some comicbook writers like to have the freedom to develop the characters to be more engaging. Some just like to piss over everything and call it "art".
 
2008-11-29 10:43:52 AM  
It's not his father. It's not the literal Devil (that's supposed to be ambiguous). It's Mangrove Pierce, star of an old film called The Black Glove (thus his name) - he's out of his farking mind, and takes the name Simon Hurt, wears a Halloween Bat-Man costume that Bruce's father wore to a party at the mansion one night when he was kids, only claims to be his father. This was marketed as a conclusion, when it's really a lead-in to the next big storyline, setting up Dick Grayson as Bats temporarily. This was how I interpreted it. The fact that there's so many conflicting interpretations of the ending really says something. It was still interesting, Morrison's work always is.

Bruce will be gone a while (the RIP story arc had a lot of "inner demons made real... or are they?" bullshiat, also highly interpretive), and Neil Gaiman's going to be doing a story called Whatever Happened To The Caped Crusader that will tell the story of his hiatus.
 
2008-11-29 10:45:16 AM  
when he was kids

A kid, I mean.
 
2008-11-29 10:46:52 AM  
The Bat guy books have been a debacle for years, and they have finally stopped spiraling the bowl and headed for the drain.
Aside from a very few really interesting stories, there is just no real direction or idea what to do there..

War Crimes- Leslie Thompkins appears to let Spoiler/Robin die
Now turns out she faked the death, causing untold trauma to Tim Drake et al. And the elderly doctor managed to fool the worlds 2 best detectives.

Hush- Batman betrayed totally out of the blue by his hunchback assistant and childhood best friend...

R.I.P what in the hell....?

Jason Todd (Robin #2) claws his way out of a coffin and through six feet of earth without suffocating to become such a cool homicidal killer that they decide he's probably a good guy after all...

Nightwing was so good, then became an accessory to murder..joined the mob...sort of recovered now but still.

I used to buy every Bat book every month..now not even interested in the trades because no matter what happens, it never lasts unless it's moronic.
 
2008-11-29 10:58:28 AM  
I think they are trying to bankrupt the comic industry in an attempt to be bailed out by the government.
 
2008-11-29 10:58:30 AM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Does this mean that the football player from the Snickers commercial who hit his head and thought he was Batman will be replacing Bruce Wayne for the meantime?


Favorite commercial EVAR!
 
2008-11-29 11:05:21 AM  
Okay, here's the big reveal.

The Black Glove is a crazy actor-turned criminal mastermind who wanted to drive Bruce Wayne crazy and make him his son/protege/whatever. At least, that's how I'm interpreting it. I don't think The Devil or Evil Itself or whatever should be mixed into Bats' world.
 
2008-11-29 11:09:43 AM  
Well, in as much as his monthly title, I mean, not crossovers and Justice League or whatever. Anyways.
 
2008-11-29 11:20:56 AM  
Batman: Brand New Day
 
2008-11-29 11:37:06 AM  
This is so insane that I might have to pick up the eventual collected paperback for cheap and read it. The fact that Morrison even considered bringing back Thomas Wayne has some grand supervillain is worth at least one read.

Or maybe get it from the library.
 
2008-11-29 11:48:26 AM  
The RIP storyline in Detective was good, but most everything by Dini is good(Countdown aside).
 
2008-11-29 11:55:28 AM  
Thomas Wayne? Really? When I heard it was supposed to be Robin and Nightwing who 'killed' Bruce I thought it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard, but it looks like I was wrong. Clearly, this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

I hate Grant Morrison. Remember when comic books used to be at least semi-intelligent? Morrison doesn't... Shock-value does not equal good story-telling, people!!!

/really hates Grant Morrison
//Morrison's one of the main reasons I stopped buying monthlies
 
2008-11-29 11:56:19 AM  

LograyX: They had Bruce's father be alive? The fark? Has DC found the bottom of the barrel and that just wasn't good enough?


I hear that Uncle Ben is coming back and teaming up with the Knobgoblin.
 
2008-11-29 11:57:39 AM  
His DAD is the mastermind? Not on my watch!


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2008-11-29 12:02:59 PM  
Maybe they could use that Bat Shark Repellant spray as they have jumped it.
 
2008-11-29 12:39:29 PM  

Gridlock: KPatrickGlover: No, Bruce's father is not alive. If you go back and read all of Morrison's run, the real villain is pretty obvious. The Devil.

No, I'm not kidding.


Batman and alter ego Bruce Wayne are not dead, according to DC Comics executive editor Dan DiDio.

The caped crusader apparently falls to his death in a helicopter explosion at the conclusion of Grant Morrison's Batman R.I.P., moments after adversary the Black Glove reveals that he is actually Batman's father, Dr Thomas Wayne.


So now, the innocent good-hearted socially-progressive parents of Bruce Wayne are now a drunkard and a heroin-addict.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Glove (pops)


snip

// Some comicbook writers like to have the freedom to develop the characters to be more engaging. Some just like to piss over everything and call it "art".


Some men just like to watch the world burn.
 
2008-11-29 12:56:31 PM  
It's Mangrove Pierce, star of an old film called The Black Glove (thus his name) - he's out of his farking mind, and takes the name Simon Hurt, wears a Halloween Bat-Man costume that Bruce's father wore to a party at the mansion one night when he was kids, only claims to be his father.

You forgot the bit where he asks Bruce to compose an requiem.
 
2008-11-29 01:16:20 PM  
Somebody say RETCON?
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2008-11-29 01:24:46 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: This is so insane that I might have to pick up the eventual collected paperback for cheap and read it. The fact that Morrison even considered bringing back Thomas Wayne has some grand supervillain is worth at least one read.

Or maybe get it from the library.



Well, if their goal is complete and unrelenting APATHY over the Batman titles, then "Good Job" because I've now so much stopped caring about the Batman related comicbooks, I would just as soon use one to wipe dog poop off the bottom of my shoe than open one to read.
 
2008-11-29 01:28:35 PM  

JOHN MCENROE MY CHILDHOOD NEMESIS: I have no idea what this thread is about, but heres a dancing Mudkip.


You win the internet.
 
2008-11-29 01:32:11 PM  
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2008-11-29 01:54:01 PM  

raidersofthelostfark: You forgot the bit where he asks Bruce to compose an requiem.


rock me amadeus

ZeroCorpse: Batman: Brand New Day


a winnar is you
 
2008-11-29 05:07:29 PM  

Ubiquitous homeless guy:

War Crimes- Leslie Thompkins appears to let Spoiler/Robin die
Now turns out she faked the death, causing untold trauma to Tim Drake et al. And the elderly doctor managed to fool the worlds 2 best detectives.

I don't recall Elongated Man there helping Bruce...

 
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