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Twiztidlojik		2003-01-12 11:21:23 AM

Groovay. A state mandated thingie that actually works. =\

Flibbertigibbet		2003-01-12 04:27:26 PM

It's about time "The Man" did something right.

Kelbel		2003-01-12 05:38:09 PM

I'm with you Twiztidlojik.

Henchman		2003-01-12 06:01:40 PM

"A state-mandated defibrillator may have saved the life of an Oswego woman who apparently suffered a heart attack while watching a swimming meet Saturday."

What kind of swimming meet was this? One run by the Chippendales?

Cleckmoon		2003-01-12 06:04:54 PM

We got those all over my skool.

Sigh.. So many defillibrators, so few people with hearts prone to stopping.

TennesseeBuck		2003-01-12 06:06:47 PM

I blame Dubya. Oh wait...

freakemart		2003-01-12 06:08:45 PM

It probably would've been easier if the lady was just not fat. Then the heart attack could've been avoided completely. But thumbs up to defilibrators anyway.

Jettero		2003-01-12 06:11:00 PM

Freakemart - Where does it say she was fat?

crazyfloyd99		2003-01-12 06:11:22 PM

Henchman - not swimming meet - swimmer's meats... she passed out 'cause he had a big dong.

freakemart		2003-01-12 06:14:27 PM

She has 2 kids, is a teacher, and has a heart attack at 43. Is there any doubt?

paranoidandroid		2003-01-12 06:15:42 PM

Freakemart --

My father-in-law had a heart attack at 50. He was in perfect health (underweight if anything) and was a doctor.

Heart disease does not strike only fat people.

SpinStopper		2003-01-12 06:15:55 PM

I've seen information on these units - technology has come a long way! They're practicaly idiot-proof and they will not deliver a shock if a heartbeat is detected. In other words, no shocking your friends for fun. Cool stuff.

On a related note, though, I was playing with an older HP defibrillator once (my brother was a volunteer EMT and ambulance driver) and was checking my pulse with the paddles on my chest when my brother energized the defib unit (sudden rising bzzzZZZZZZ!!!) just for fun. I nearly needed the thing right after that.

Galland		2003-01-12 06:16:40 PM

I shall propose a law requiring people with heart problems to buy their own darned defibrillator. They'd probably have more heart attacks if they had to lug one around, but at least they'd get some use out of it. :)

Henchman		2003-01-12 06:17:48 PM

Crazyfloyd99: I wonder if she can sue for being denied a happy death?

freakemart		2003-01-12 06:18:26 PM

That may be true. But the evidence is there.

Henchman		2003-01-12 06:18:51 PM

Galland: Doesn't Cheney have some kind of mini-defib thing installed in his chest?

I have a friend that wants that thing hooked up to a website: "shocktheveep.com"

Jettero		2003-01-12 06:19:32 PM

No evidence jerky, just flaimbait.

gudel		2003-01-12 06:20:59 PM

for a moment i thought i saw devibrator. =)

Sensurround		2003-01-12 06:21:35 PM

hey, i live in rochester. eat rochester actually. they just put these things in our school, ones still empty. someone opened one, and the flashing red light on top turned on, the principal got all red faced because it automatically calls 911 when its opened.

LadyLazaruss		2003-01-12 06:22:42 PM

Spinstopper--I'm glad you said that. When I first read this I couldn't believe they'd have these things in the schools. I was just wondering how long it would be before some idiot kid killed another one with those things....next thing you know they'll have cardiac needles around with adrenalyne (sp?) and see how many kids act out Pulp Fiction with it...Good to hear the defibrillators are much safer these days..

jayd42		2003-01-12 06:22:45 PM

Who gets sued if someone uses the device and she still dies?

Alterian		2003-01-12 06:23:25 PM

East Rochester you mean? Hey, I live in Fairport ^_^

naked_man		2003-01-12 06:25:53 PM

How long before something like that scene from The Thing happens and everyone gets pissed. Not long I bet!

Kat		2003-01-12 06:27:22 PM

Our school has these all over the place, too. We had a kid die three years as a sophomore. He collapsed and went into cardiac arrest after finishing soccer practice at his town club. The next day was our school's day of service, and since then they've dedicated the day to the kid.

He was a really nice guy, I didn't know him too well but he always used to smile in the hall way when he walked by. Totally not the kid you'd expect to have a heart problem, he wasn't fat and he was pretty active.

Alterian		2003-01-12 06:33:01 PM

err oops...that comment was directed towards Sensurround.

TheOmni		2003-01-12 06:35:22 PM

I don't technically live in Rochester, but I'm moving there soon. (I have attended RIT so that's why I like the area.)

lonerancher		2003-01-12 06:35:38 PM

I have used these things alot in the field and they are awesome. They are even popping up in private homes now. They are simple to use and give the victim a much higher chance of survival than just cpr alone. AED's should be in malls, business centers, anywhere that people congregate.
Age and fitness may play a role in some heart attacks but I have seen very healthy people hit the floor pulseless.

Blenderkitty		2003-01-12 06:36:44 PM

sigh...just another example of government spending and waste, taking money away from those unfortunate rich and wasting it.

Reactron		2003-01-12 06:37:06 PM

See ! See ! If the damn Repuglicans would let us spend more money, we'd all live forever. But no, they want to hog all them defrig-a-majigs for themselves. Butt-heads.

Alterian		2003-01-12 06:37:41 PM

TheOmni: If you went to RIT then you should know how boring and dull Rochester is. I'm transferring out of RIT to get away from this god-forsaken land.

BiTCHSMaX		2003-01-12 06:38:38 PM

I read this and I had to submit it. I moved to Rochester from Oswego 6 months ago. Funny thing is, I've never seen one of these things anywhere. Then again, I do try to stay away from government buildings...

SpinStopper		2003-01-12 06:39:32 PM

LadyLazaruss: When I first heard that these defibrillator units were going to be available to be distributed to schools, restaurants, etc. a couple of years ago, I too was more than a little concerned. So I did some research. A lot of thought went into the design of these things, making them almost impossible to misuse, but extremely easy to use correctly, regardless of the language of the person using the machine (the instructions are all in pictograms, and the device has only three or four buttons, if I remember correctly).

And, yeah, it calls 911 right away if you open it :)

TheOmni		2003-01-12 06:48:43 PM

Alterian. Yeah, you sure sound like an RIT student.

SLF		2003-01-12 07:29:02 PM

Is no-one going to complain about the missing apostrophe?

TentaclePr0nRocks		2003-01-12 07:35:14 PM

Interesting...I didn't think that high schools would generally need defribulators.

I live about 2 hours south of Rochester in Corning...I don't understand why people choose to go to college out here because it's so damned boring. I mean, don't you want to go to a fun real city?

Cleckmoon		2003-01-12 07:46:12 PM

SpinStopper
I've seen information on these units - technology has come a long way! They're practicaly idiot-proof and they will not deliver a shock if a heartbeat is detected. In other words, no shocking your friends for fun. Cool stuff.

THATS why it didn't work! Crap.

Drifter		2003-01-12 07:49:57 PM

The woman, Judith Schneider, 43, of Oswego, Oswego County, had to be resuscitated three times at the pool by the defibrillators....."On the way to the hospital, we had to shock her again about three or four times."

Man, she was really determined to die!

SpinStopper		2003-01-12 07:55:14 PM

Cleckmoon

You're funny :)

snarf-snarf		2003-01-12 07:57:15 PM

why won't the government let the free market determine where defibrillators are located? Goddamn liberals, destroying honest businesses and wasting my money! People should be free to choose defibrillator-equipped or non-defibrillator-equipped businesses! taking away that choice is just pussy communist thinking!!!

UrinalPooper		2003-01-12 07:58:25 PM

OK since everyone is on the same bandwagon, I have to be the lone voice of dissent. Do you think if we pass enough laws noone will ever have to die ever again? I mean, if we put fully staffed triage units every 5 miles along each highway there would be fewer fatalities from accidents. People die, its as natural as rain on a goddamn sunday morning. On the other hand, I have 'DNR' tattooed on my chest, so maybe I'm just scared some idiot won't know what it means and would revive me anyway.

SquirrelWithLargeNuts		2003-01-12 08:25:16 PM

No Blood For Defribilators!

You know, because it's a democratic rag...I got nothin'

Henchman		2003-01-12 08:35:43 PM

Behold the result of the aging Baby Boomer generation. We can all look forward to Coke with Geritol, the Delta 88 SUV, matching belt-and-shoes specials at Old Navy, more movies with ancient-as-dirt leads being romantic with 18-year-olds, and ICU's in every office park.

Campaign slogan in 2012: "Don't trust anyone under 60."

LadyLazaruss		2003-01-12 08:43:35 PM

UrinalPooper--Funny name. Reminds me of my dorm back in college that used to be an all mens dorm and was switched to coed. Every week someone would find a drunk girl passed out or in the process of passing out trying to use the urinals left from when it was an all mens dorm.

And by the way, I agree with what you said too. They don't seem to be able to accept that people must die someday. Things like Alzheimers and dementia are solid proof our bodies just can't handle living to be that old.

boilerguy		2003-01-12 08:47:02 PM

I've seen information on these units - technology has come a long way! They're practicaly idiot-proof and they will not deliver a shock if a heartbeat is detected. In other words, no shocking your friends for fun. Cool stuff.

Actually they will only deliver a shock if a heartbeat "is" detected. If the patient is in defib then the machine will shock to stabilize the heartbeat. If you don't have a heartbeat the machine just tells you to continue CPR.

Sensurround		2003-01-12 08:49:57 PM

east rochest*, yes excuse me Alterian. actually i just moved into the edge of Pittsford, Pittsford Manor. I'd call it an upgrade.

Sensurround		2003-01-12 08:51:57 PM

East Rochester** god I can't type tonight

Alterian		2003-01-12 09:01:28 PM

Sensurround: You're obviously a rather large TMBG fan...did you happen to catch the showing of Gigantic up at the Little?

TheOmni: There are only two good things about RIT...the anime club and the hockey. Everything else I won't miss at all.

TheOmni		2003-01-12 09:05:32 PM

I don't much care for hockey, and I've found a lot of other things that I love at RIT.

Alterian		2003-01-12 09:06:57 PM

RIT Hockey is great....I just go to watch us beat the crap out of the other teams.

If you're bored and want to talk you can reach me at the aim name Amber Thelyn