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2008-11-23 10:23:31 AM  
Subby here.

Scored an 84.25.

Shouldn't people have to know this stuff to graduate high school, let alone vote or run for office?
 
2008-11-23 10:32:23 AM  
The ISI isn't the most uh...reliable of sources. NOT

"We must...provide resources and guidance to an elite which can take up anew the task of enculturation. Through its journals, lectures, seminars, books and fellowships, this is what ISI has done successfully for 36 years. The coming of age of such elites has provided the current leadership of the conservative revival. But we should add a major new component to our strategy: the conservative movement is now mature enough to sustain a counteroffensive on that last Leftist redoubt, the college campus...We are now strong enough to establish a contemporary presence for conservatism on campus, and contest the Left on its own turf. We plan to do this by greatly expanding the ISI field effort, its network of campus-based programming."

In the summer of 2005, ISI Books, the imprint of ISI, published It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good, by Pennsylvania Republican Senator Rick Santorum, which premiered at #13 on the New York Times best sellers list. The controversial book gained the focus of state and national attention during the unsuccessful 2006 reelection campaign of Senator Santorum.


Uncommon Dissent
Intellectuals Who Find Darwinism Unconvincing


Link (new window)
 
2008-11-23 10:48:05 AM  
smooshie:

I didn't say I buy into evertything they hold out...I just find it disturbing that there are people that flunk this basic test.

The only ones I missed were business school type questions...but it bothers the crap out of me that there are people that don't know the simplest questions - like Germany and Japan being the enemy in WWII or what sputnik was.
 
2008-11-23 10:50:11 AM  
Interesting article/study. Thanks subby.

/93.94 %
 
2008-11-23 10:52:57 AM  
92.26% ... it's early? heh. Interesting read. Good find SUBBY, probably too intelligent for a green though :(
 
2008-11-23 11:40:08 AM  

Blade2567: smooshie:

I didn't say I buy into evertything they hold out...I just find it disturbing that there are people that flunk this basic test.

The only ones I missed were business school type questions...but it bothers the crap out of me that there are people that don't know the simplest questions - like Germany and Japan being the enemy in WWII or what sputnik was.


what Sputnik was:


2004.novayagazeta.ru
 
2008-11-23 11:43:13 AM  
32 out of 33

I missed question 27.
 
2008-11-23 12:04:41 PM  
29 of 33 correct.
 
2008-11-23 12:17:40 PM  
30 out of 33.

I clicked wrong on one and just brain farted on the others.

Didn't really like how some of the questions were phrased, but an interesting test.
 
2008-11-23 01:15:58 PM  
From TFA: "Only 24% of college graduates know the First Amendment prohibits establishing an official religion for the United States."

If you actually read the Establishment Clause, and study the context, it is clear that it was actually meant to prohibit the federal government from interfering with the states' establishment of official religions. NOt that that really matters, though.
 
2008-11-23 01:16:43 PM  
Of all the times to use the "diversity" folder on your stock photo DVD...

/off to take the test
 
2008-11-23 01:19:50 PM  
"Fewer than half of all Americans can name all three branches of government, a minimal requirement for understanding America's constitutional system."

I really don't see how "Executive legislative judicial" could set me above and beyond over 50% of people taking the test...
 
2008-11-23 01:19:52 PM  
24 of 30

/Canadian
 
2008-11-23 01:21:03 PM  
Oops - should be 24 of 33. I suck at math, too.
 
2008-11-23 01:21:44 PM  
where can i find this test? i'm having trouble locating it
 
2008-11-23 01:22:58 PM  
TFQ: 13) Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that:

How is this related to civil literacy again?
 
2008-11-23 01:23:16 PM  

The Dogs of War: where can i find this test? i'm having trouble locating it


http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx
 
2008-11-23 01:25:28 PM  

Zagloba: TFQ: 13) Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that:

How is this related to civil literacy again?


Their ideas were central to the concept of the US constitution while it was being written.

32/33... farking Gettysburg address.
 
2008-11-23 01:25:40 PM  
27 out of 33. And I'm not even American.
 
2008-11-23 01:25:43 PM  

Zagloba: TFQ: 13) Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that:

How is this related to civil literacy again?


I know, only two of those guys are even American.
 
2008-11-23 01:27:17 PM  
I got a 69.7%. Only answered 23 of 33 right. I really had trouble with the economic questions. But I knew most of the rest of them. :(
 
2008-11-23 01:27:47 PM  
Oh, and 100%, but I protest that several of these questions are highly opinionated.

/Why am I good at multiple-choice tests, and yet bad at poker?
 
2008-11-23 01:28:02 PM  
FTFQ: Note: This quiz does not support WebTV.

This made me laugh.
 
2008-11-23 01:28:06 PM  
31 out of 33 correct and do not live in the US.
Maybe you folks should learn about the rest of the world.

Canada and Mexico were you enemies in WWII. What's to stop them from rising up again.
 
2008-11-23 01:28:13 PM  
26 out of 33, but I didn't study at all beforehand.
 
2008-11-23 01:28:22 PM  
"Oh, hi 18 year old college freshmen - please take this 60 question test that will not impact your GPA at all"

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2008-11-23 01:28:33 PM  
29/33 - where are they finding the mouthbreathers that can't even pass?
 
2008-11-23 01:29:06 PM  

RDMA: Zagloba: TFQ: 13) Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that:

How is this related to civil literacy again?

Their ideas were central to the concept of the US constitution while it was being written.

32/33... farking Gettysburg address.


Same exact question kept me from the perfect score. I share your pain.
 
2008-11-23 01:29:13 PM  
Fark this nationalist propaganda. Where's the fascist barometer?
 
2008-11-23 01:29:32 PM  
30 out of 33.

I heard about this test this week. It's a shame that more Americans aren't aware of how their government works.
 
2008-11-23 01:29:50 PM  
30 out of 33.
Had an issue with the wording on one question and flat did not know the Socrate/Aristotle, et al question. Not a bad quiz for a rainy Sunday morning.
 
2008-11-23 01:30:24 PM  

ScottRiqui: 29/33 - where are they finding the mouthbreathers that can't even pass?


Have you sat down and talked to any college seniors lately?

The one piece of their report that I categorically agree with is their judgement that this kind of literacy increases by having conversations about it, and decreases by watching the news.
 
2008-11-23 01:30:34 PM  
I missed #7 & #33. 33 was tautological, which threw me off.
 
2008-11-23 01:30:36 PM  

Bowen: "Oh, hi 18 year old college freshmen - please take this 60 question test that will not impact your GPA at all"

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Haha, this. My dad once was told to take a mandatory test for his professor's research for something that wouldn't affect his grade. He intentionally got a 0 (yeah, he filled out the test, with all wrong answers). Professor was not happy with him, I'm sure.
 
2008-11-23 01:31:41 PM  
90.91%
 
2008-11-23 01:33:15 PM  

Slavoj Zizek: Fark this nationalist propaganda. Where's the fascist barometer?


Aw, I wasn't going to get into the whole scores by party, but yeah, it didn't surprise me to see democrats at a significantly lower score.

/Mostly because college democrats have all the independent thought of the Hitler youth
//At least you could grow up to be pope!
 
2008-11-23 01:33:15 PM  
32/33 here as well. Looks like that HS edumacation did me real good.
 
2008-11-23 01:34:08 PM  
"You answered 28 out of 33 correctly - 84.85 %"

I'm British and I know more about this crap than most americans.

Worrying.
 
2008-11-23 01:34:55 PM  

The Dogs of War: where can i find this test? i'm having trouble locating it


An omen? Maybe you should not take it.
 
2008-11-23 01:35:03 PM  
With tabbed browsing and internet access, there is no excuse for anything less than 100%.

84.85
 
2008-11-23 01:35:12 PM  
Missed only one question, the one on the Gettysburg Address. It's still a bullshiat test. The Socrates/Plato/etc. question is wholly irrelevant to a working knowledge of civics. Question #22 is actually debatable, given that Congress gave the Presidency the right to declare war under the War Powers Act (and the Supreme Court removed Congress' ability to rescind the President's power by means of a joint resolution).
 
2008-11-23 01:35:53 PM  
81%.

American.

college graduate.

Farking embarrassed.
 
2008-11-23 01:35:54 PM  
27/33.
 
2008-11-23 01:35:58 PM  
32/33. I missed the one re: the Lincoln/Douglas debates. Even as an Illinoisian, I've never heard anything ABOUT those debates, really just that there WERE debates.

Some of those questions seemed pretty basic, but I'm not shocked that people score low on this. Some of the questions were poorly phrased, a few were unusually specific, and a few were really out of the blue.
 
2008-11-23 01:36:08 PM  
30 of 33.

Thanks, subby
 
2008-11-23 01:36:29 PM  
Liberals score 49%; conservatives score 48%. Republicans score 52%; Democrats score 45%.

Any statisticians care to explain that?
 
2008-11-23 01:37:26 PM  
'Only 24% of college graduates know the First Amendment prohibits establishing an official religion for the United States.'

-That explains a lot...


/don't turn this into an 'I'm so much smarter than everybody' contest!
//Oh forgot, that's FARK's raison d'etre
 
2008-11-23 01:38:20 PM  
"You answered 28 out of 33 correctly - 84.85 %"

/Canadian, LOL
 
2008-11-23 01:38:39 PM  
Meh. I got 26 out of 33.

/College student.
 
2008-11-23 01:39:35 PM  
I'm not too knowledgeable about civics but I still managed to get an 84.85 without cheating. It's sad that most people fail that.
 
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