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(Seattle Times)   Scammer made $3 million in illegal eBay sales. Or, after eBay and Paypal fees, $271   (seattletimes.nwsource.com) divider line
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2008-11-20 05:37:39 PM  
Someone forgot to tell eBay (^)
 
2008-11-20 05:48:20 PM  
Sounds about right. They have not only gotten greedy, but seem to unofficially tolerate the illegal activities on their site.

/Doesn't use eBay anymore
 
2008-11-20 05:50:13 PM  
FTFA: Seattle police Detective David Dunn, assigned to the U.S. Secret Service-led task force, was able to track the thieves and link the credit card thefts to the purchases through an e-mail address that was linked to a Best Buy Rewards card that had been used hundreds of times.

How much longer would they have been able to get away with this if they didn't link the same rewards number to their purchases? Probably a pretty long time, seeing as it took $250,000 through that rewards card before Best Buy even became suspicious of it.
 
2008-11-20 05:52:41 PM  
I'm surprised the marketing folks didn't notice use of a rewards card 125 times using 77 different credit cards for purchases of more than $250,000.

The same rewards card? These folks were smrt.
 
2008-11-20 05:53:48 PM  

Mayor Bee:

Dammit, beat me to it.

 
2008-11-20 06:04:05 PM  

Crosshair: Sounds about right. They have not only gotten greedy, but seem to unofficially tolerate the illegal activities on their site.

/Doesn't use eBay anymore


Of course they tolerate illegal activities on their site. They ENGAGE in illegal activities themselves. They Ebay board of directors wake up every morning thinking of ways they can violate anti-trust laws and fark over sellers.
 
2008-11-20 06:26:50 PM  
Here's the line that really defines the greed of somebody who had a good thing going:

Rewards cards provide loyal customers with special deals and other incentives for buying at the store, and Britt, whose e-mail was allegedly linked to the account, was perhaps too loyal.

He was already getting the stuff for free, yet he felt the need to get better prices through rewards so he could steal more. But hey, that's what capitalism is all about.
 
2008-11-20 07:04:33 PM  

timujin: Someone forgot to tell eBay (^)


Your link redirected me to here.
 
2008-11-20 07:27:08 PM  
SUCKITEBAYF*CKSH*TCOCKASSPEICEOFCRAPUSELESSTITF*UCKS!!!!
 
2008-11-20 07:28:14 PM  
What a maroon, he got caught because he used a rewards card with his illegal purchases.
 
2008-11-20 07:29:08 PM  

Bohemian: What a maroon, he got caught because he used a rewards card with his illegal purchases.


yep they should've used an air miles card instead
 
2008-11-20 07:30:41 PM  
Link (new window)

wow. "Nexusi" still has a valid account, even after that article.
 
2008-11-20 07:31:17 PM  

Crosshair: Sounds about right. They have not only gotten greedy, but seem to unofficially tolerate the illegal activities on their site.


Ric?

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2008-11-20 07:32:12 PM  

just_dis_guy: wow. "Nexusi" still has a valid account, even after that article.


and he has good feedback, I would do business with him.
 
2008-11-20 07:32:30 PM  
THIS is an Ebay powerseller!!!

Ebay (new window)
 
2008-11-20 07:33:12 PM  
I gave up on ebay. Ever since they made everything paypal mandatory, imposed higher fees for both paypal and ebay, selling has become a joke. It's like a bank charging you to deposit, keep, and use your own money! In 3 > years, unless they repeal the asinine fees, I think eBay won't be around anymore.
 
2008-11-20 07:33:24 PM  
Sometimes, new is better than used.
 
2008-11-20 07:34:56 PM  

CygnusDarius: Sometimes, new is better than used.



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2008-11-20 07:39:03 PM  
Well, how secure do you feel using Ebay/Paypal now? I wouldn't trust them with a fake user name, let alone my bank/credit card info. Now you know why...these two guys are probably Ebay employees.
 
2008-11-20 07:39:51 PM  
I am having issues with feebay as well
 
2008-11-20 07:40:11 PM  
johnny_vegas: THIS is an Ebay powerseller!!!

Ebay (new window)


That kind of shiat pisses me off. You gotta admit that sexually repressed/japanese men are the ones purchasing those clothes.
 
2008-11-20 07:40:56 PM  
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2008-11-20 07:42:35 PM  
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=nexusi&​&ftab=Feed backAsSeller&iid=110303444024&sspagename=VIP:feedback:2:us

/lots of positive feedback
//A++++++ would by stolen goods again.
 
2008-11-20 07:44:32 PM  
Ahhh yes. BestBuy Rewards. "Buy 50 PS3 games, Get one FREE!!"

/that's about what it works out to
//$250,000 would net you about $5,000, though.
 
2008-11-20 07:47:15 PM  
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2008-11-20 07:52:53 PM  
I guess they had to get to the gym in 26 minutes.
 
2008-11-20 07:55:25 PM  
According to tfa, they're tracking down the auction winners in order to recoup the equipment. Pfft. I've been seriously screwed over in all facets of life, but having to return property that I thought was legitimate isn't one of those instances. I'd be furious.

Ebay seems a little pointless these days except for items that you simply can't find in a traditional store, or for a vastly greater selection (parts for your 1975 VW, for ex.). Most of the new electronics that I see are priced damned near retail, and at that point it's easier to just take it home that very day from BB, etc.
Craigs is where the lowballers go to ball, anyway. Assuming you don't get jacked.
 
2008-11-20 07:57:53 PM  
Lotsa luck getting anything else on my credit cards.
 
2008-11-20 08:05:50 PM  

fireisprogress: Everybody publicly hates the idea of somebody making money so easily and profiting from everyone else's misfortune while secretly wishing they had thought of it/did it.


Oh bull. Scammers and spammers alike all think they're the first person to ever think of it. They're not. It's just that everyone else who's already thought of it has enough ethics and brains to refrain from doing it.
 
2008-11-20 08:08:19 PM  
From one of nexusi's listing:

"All units I sell are the exact same retail packages you will find in your local stores."

You don't say?
 
2008-11-20 08:09:39 PM  
Britt was arrested in October at a Best Buy after a clerk became suspicious.

So the Secret Service led taskforce, the Seattle police, and the Best Buy "store investigator" didn't catch him at all. A 16-year old check out clerk did.

Best Buy has great surveillance, so they surely had a photo of this guy. The police and SS could subpoena eBay, Best Buy, his email provider, etc. But.. no. This guy was so blatant that finally some kid turned him in.

What a pathetic excuse for detective work.
 
2008-11-20 08:12:02 PM  
Best Buy probably figured he was the best customer they had, and didn't want to disrupt his shopping.
 
2008-11-20 08:15:09 PM  
The most recent feedback on nexusi's account:

"Gave us an immediate refund when we had a problem that was our fault."

Must be nice to be able to give refunds and still break even?
 
2008-11-20 08:17:23 PM  
I don't understand why he's still on eBay??? Usually every time a news story comes out about somebody doing something illegal on eBay and they list their user id its not a registered user, and there are several negatives.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnexusi

This guy's still selling. He's got good feedback too, guess its not too hard if everything you sell is BRAND NEW! As long as he ships it out on time, nothing for buyers to complain about.....until the investigators contact them and tell them they need to return the merchandise.
 
2008-11-20 08:18:48 PM  
It seems clear that if one wants to make lots of money, scamming is the way to go - perhaps the only remaining way to do it.

Not sure how the Wall Street debacle is much different - and people will bite again.
 
2008-11-20 08:34:06 PM  

El Freak: Of course they tolerate illegal activities on their site. They ENGAGE in illegal activities themselves. They Ebay board of directors wake up every morning thinking of ways they can violate anti-trust laws and fark over sellers.


And then they merged with PayPal- the payment option preferred by scammers worldwide. Who conveniently have policies in place that protect the fraudulent party in just about every possible transaction!

They try to push customers into paying through their checking account for a reason; it removes the protections otherwise provided by a credit card. Visa will soak fraud.

PayPal intentionally stalls their resolution (aka. 'telling the customer to piss off') for 45-60 days on fraud claims that were funded by a credit card in hopes to "time out" a customer's buyer protection with their credit card company.

I was actually involved in a fraud case a few years back. I was out nothing, thanks to Visa. At least three other bidders I got in contact with (before eBay's wonderful idea of HIDING the names of every other person involved) who'd paid with PayPal through their checking account were shiat out of luck. And they told them so within 48 hours.

Myself and one other had paid with credit cards. PayPal's policy insists you wait for them to make an "attempt" (hah) to solve the problem before you file with your CC or you risk getting your account closed for violation of use terms.

It took over 30 days to hear back from them, despite having case numbers from the four other bidders dealing with the same fraudulent seller, and three of those already ruled upon.

Of course it came back denied. Not that it mattered. Visa had taken care of it by that time. I feel sorry for the folks that lost cash, though.

/Buy online with credit cards only
//no excuses
///I don't care if you have no credit and have to use a "secured" card which you have to put money in before every purchase, or one of those damned "Gift Card" Visas
////and no ATM/Check Cards with a Visa/MC logo either
 
2008-11-20 08:35:04 PM  
you think a properly phrased SQL statement would put this guy on the top of their list, but no, took a pimply faced clerk to catch him
 
2008-11-20 08:35:50 PM  

Atypical Person Reading Fark: It seems clear that if one wants to make lots of money, scamming is the way to go - perhaps the only remaining way to do it.


Or becoming a pirate.

/yarr
 
2008-11-20 08:39:28 PM  
Wow. That link sent my anti-virus software into overdrive.
 
2008-11-20 08:40:22 PM  
What's an alternative to eBay for someone who is soon looking to try to sell some old stuff.
 
2008-11-20 08:42:55 PM  
"Rewards cards provide loyal customers with special deals and other incentives for buying at the store. Britt had drawn suspicion to the card because it had been used more than 125 times using 77 different credit cards for purchases of more than $250,000."

That's some fine detective work there, Lou.
 
2008-11-20 08:44:06 PM  

Lamune_Baba: Or becoming a pirate.


You are a pirate! (pops)
 
2008-11-20 08:44:34 PM  

Lamune_Baba: El Freak: Of course they tolerate illegal activities on their site. They ENGAGE in illegal activities themselves. They Ebay board of directors wake up every morning thinking of ways they can violate anti-trust laws and fark over sellers.

And then they merged with PayPal- the payment option preferred by scammers worldwide. Who conveniently have policies in place that protect the fraudulent party in just about every possible transaction!

They try to push customers into paying through their checking account for a reason; it removes the protections otherwise provided by a credit card. Visa will soak fraud.

PayPal intentionally stalls their resolution (aka. 'telling the customer to piss off') for 45-60 days on fraud claims that were funded by a credit card in hopes to "time out" a customer's buyer protection with their credit card company.

I was actually involved in a fraud case a few years back. I was out nothing, thanks to Visa. At least three other bidders I got in contact with (before eBay's wonderful idea of HIDING the names of every other person involved) who'd paid with PayPal through their checking account were shiat out of luck. And they told them so within 48 hours.

Myself and one other had paid with credit cards. PayPal's policy insists you wait for them to make an "attempt" (hah) to solve the problem before you file with your CC or you risk getting your account closed for violation of use terms.

It took over 30 days to hear back from them, despite having case numbers from the four other bidders dealing with the same fraudulent seller, and three of those already ruled upon.

Of course it came back denied. Not that it mattered. Visa had taken care of it by that time. I feel sorry for the folks that lost cash, though.

/Buy online with credit cards only
//no excuses
///I don't care if you have no credit and have to use a "secured" card which you have to put money in before every purchase, or one of those damned "Gift Card" Visas
////and no ATM/Check Cards with a Visa/MC logo either


I use Amazon a lot because they don't mind charge backs and they don't require return of items. And I use my credit card to buy through Amazon.

The problem with Amazon is they allow anybody to sell there. The last item I bought, the seller never contacts me. I contact them after 5 days, they tell me they are out of stock on the major, low price item but they'll ship the rest of my order--higher margin stuff for them--in a few days. PPPtthhttt. I cancelled the order.
 
2008-11-20 08:45:30 PM  

RemyDuron: What's an alternative to eBay for someone who is soon looking to try to sell some old stuff.


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Some folks calls 'em a garage sale, I calls em a yard sale, mmmmmhmmmmmm
 
2008-11-20 08:48:48 PM  

RemyDuron: What's an alternative to eBay for someone who is soon looking to try to sell some old stuff.


www.etsy.com, depending on how old the stuff is. They only deal with craft supplies, handmade stuff, and older stuff though, so you wouldn't be able to put up anything made within the last twenty or so years.

/they're a decent site, though small
//I only know about their knitting section really, though
 
2008-11-20 08:53:14 PM  

Tachikoma: www.etsy.com,


great recommendation, thanks!!
 
2008-11-20 08:58:06 PM  
Do people not use locks on their lockers? I didn't see any mention of breaking locks open in the article. I have seen a few people not use locks in the gym locker room and I'm just baffled at their level of trust in others.
 
2008-11-20 09:00:03 PM  
I must be really lucky. I've had hundreds of Ebay transactions and the problems have been far fewer than the problems I regularly encounter at brick and mortar stores.

My most recent Ebay find are halogen bulbs for my landscape lighting and other specialty lights in the house. They last just as long as the bulbs at Lowe's at 1/4 of the price.
 
2008-11-20 09:01:10 PM  

Lamune_Baba: ////and no ATM/Check Cards with a Visa/MC logo either



Why not a Visa/MC debit card? Having such a card saved me from losing money last year, when someone used my debit card number to buy something overseas. Visa stepped in and gave me my money back while my bank researched and prosecuted the thief. The money was back in my bank account within a day of me filing the theft report.
 
2008-11-20 09:06:04 PM  

RemyDuron: What's an alternative to eBay for someone who is soon looking to try to sell some old stuff.


I've had some decent luck with Craigslist. It's just a big open classifieds page. I've never tried to sell anything, but I buy there all the time.
 
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