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2001-08-27 08:27:37 AM
Go ahead, MPAA, shoot yourself in the foot.
 
2001-08-27 08:34:18 AM
So, Due process has nothing to do with a service you pay for.
Well, if your ISP lacks the balls to stand up to this crap then get a new one.
 
2001-08-27 08:37:24 AM
Probably the morons (at whichever institution, Time-Warner or the MPAA) forgot that Time-Warner's Road Runner (to which I am a subscriber) dishes out a DYNAMIC IP ADDRESS. It changes about every three days (but can go longer). That's why it's very hard to "ban" any users from TW's network, since many folks change their IP's more often than their underwear. The guy who uploaded the movie could have easily had their IP while he committed his most heinous crime (sarcasm, folks) after which it was given to our unwitting victim.
 
Rat
2001-08-27 08:55:59 AM
I guess I should be expecting a letter sometime in the near future...
 
2001-08-27 08:59:24 AM
I have a 30 gig hdd filled with prOn and Mp3. Yes, 30 gigs. I need to buy another one bc its almost full.

Send me a HDD and I'll copy it for any farker out there.
 
2001-08-27 09:03:37 AM
Albert,
use an ftp program, then we can enjoy faster.
 
2001-08-27 09:10:44 AM
Henchman, RR does use dynamic IPs but for a monthly fee you can get a static one. A lot of people do this if they use their home PC for business reasons since it is the best way to ensure easy remote access. I would imagine, since she didn't bring it up in the article that he does have a static IP. My bet is just what she indicated occured, someone typed the IP wrong at some point, or the other option is, the actualy did do it. Doesn't change that fact that TW and the MPAA (who I would imagine TW is a member) went way over the line.

The DMCA is a mess, its the first attempt at protecting intelectual rights (a good idea) in a new era. Problem is that it was written by lobiests for the major software, record and film distributors. It will take time for the system to clean it up. Unfortunately the only way it will get cleaned up is through the courts and innocent and other broderline cases will be the impetis (sp?, its too early to check it) for cleaning it up.
 
2001-08-27 09:12:58 AM
Hell, it was uploaded to Usenet. Could the uploader have just faked his IP?

Nah...It's impossible to spoof IP adresses on the internet...No one could ever do something like that...

farking assholes...And people wonder why I don't go to the movies anymore...

3Horn
 
rpm
2001-08-27 09:20:59 AM
Scraping I don't know about the guy in the article, but the ONLY high speed internet I have available to me is RR. Ain't monopolies wonderful?
 
2001-08-27 09:40:14 AM
Scraping:
Send instructions on how to set it up and I'll do it.

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2001-08-27 09:53:48 AM
Probably a stupid question, but considering that I'm one of the technically challenged, I'll ask it anyway. Doesn't a firewall protect you from this happening?
 
2001-08-27 09:58:06 AM
No, Doofus. Unless of course the box was hacked, which I seriously doubt...

Spoofed IPs, certainly not hard to do, are not covered by firewalls...

Go to google and type in "spoof ip", and you'll get a huge list of info regarding this.

As for the MPAA: fark OFF you GODDAMN VULTURES. I'm gonna pirate as much shiat as I possibly can just to spite you ignorant motherfarkers.

And the only way I'll go see a movie in a theatre is by sneaking in the back farking door. fark YOU MPAA
 
2001-08-27 10:02:59 AM
I'm not surprised this happen, being these are the same people who can't figure out why the sale of cds have droped since napster was told to clamp down on transfering those "nasty" mp3s....
 
2001-08-27 10:04:50 AM
Is that why ticket prices are going up cause they need to be able to afford this probably overpriced snoop software? It will bite them in the ass when he DMCA gets a nosejob down the road.
 
2001-08-27 10:07:32 AM
Can it be stopped? I admit I don't understand how this works exactly, but the thought of this happening to me really pisses me off.
 
2001-08-27 10:18:36 AM
Yeah. And another thing. What gives the F.B.I. the right to barge into my house at 2:00 AM, rip out my hard drive and take all my kiddie porn? Jeez. Where are we? Rush-uh??
 
2001-08-27 10:22:39 AM
Albert:
I'm gettin there, should top 4 gigs sometime today ( by afternoon i suspect)
I have a 9 gig hd, but my computer came with a cd-r/rw burner, so really my storage capabilities are limitless.
Just when I thought I couldn't love the internet more...=)
 
2001-08-27 10:22:46 AM
i've got 70gb of hd crammed full o shiat, but i'm on a modem. :(

oh well, the mpaa is breaking up some of the stupider irc channels on the bigger networks (dal comes to mind), etc etc, but i dont think they're just going to kill their "problem" altogether. dal has had channels busted before, too, so its not the best idea to serve there. :P

my isp only keeps 1 hour worth of ip logs. if they only did broadband...
 
2001-08-27 10:24:05 AM
oh yea, that and hollywood is just scared that you'll see one of their shiatty movies without paying for it. they've been coming out with mediocre shiat all summer.
 
2001-08-27 10:36:19 AM
boobies got it, "Shoot yourself in the foot." Look at how bad cd sales are right now because of RIAA, thats all because we, the people sharing this music, fought back. Movies will be even easier to boycott and the financial cost on their part will be quite devestating. Imagine making a film for $50mill and only breaking even because everyone boycotted it except for the few teenie boppers that have no idea about whats going on.
 
2001-08-27 10:36:50 AM
boobies != B O O B I E S

man I hate that
 
2001-08-27 10:37:26 AM
DAMNIT^*&W*@^!*
post that is first is what that said in the two above posts
 
2001-08-27 10:48:50 AM
I can't wait for Windows XP to come out. It allows anyone to spoof an IP address. The copyright enforcers will be farked because they will never know where anything has come from. The downside is that anyone can set up a denial of service attack straight from their PC and no one will be able to find them.
 
2001-08-27 10:50:41 AM
Terron:
first post ?
 
2001-08-27 10:53:41 AM
Somewhere in the middle post!
 
2001-08-27 10:56:06 AM
Dido: yeah
 
2001-08-27 11:02:02 AM
A lot of people do this if they use their home PC for business reasons since it is the best way to ensure easy remote access.

This surprises me. @Home forbids running 'servers,' meaning essentially anything that will accept an incoming socket connection. In fact, I've heard that they've now blocked all connections to port 80 (the port to which browsers connect to get web pages) on home machines, using the Code Red virus as the excuse.

This particular guy got busted for (allegedly) posting the material to a Usenet newsgroup. You could could avoid his fate by using ZeroKnowledge Freedom, which masks the identity of the user. So if you want to retaliate without consequence, that's the way to do it. Works for IRC as well.

Personally, if this ever happens to me, I'll get an attorney and sue for defamation and tortious interference. That alone might put some spine in the ISP. Even if it didn't, I'd still have some fun dragging the info out of the MPAA thru discovery.
 
2001-08-27 11:02:36 AM
Point One: Sure you were watching fireworks...
Point Two: IP Addresses are public knowledge if you know where to look.
Point Three: If your boyfriend was the IT guy you think he is, giving out his IP is no big deal... He'd know how to protect it.
Over-All - SHADDUP.
 
2001-08-27 11:06:51 AM
By the way, spoofing an IP won't help you obtain copyrighted material. A real IP is needed to route packets to you. A spoofed IP is useful mostly for a denial-of-service attack.
 
2001-08-27 11:14:17 AM
 
2001-08-27 11:18:13 AM
Should name the organization M.P.A.A.S.S. of the Third Reich.
 
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2001-08-27 11:23:47 AM
I think we should just outlaw the internet. that would make everybody happy.
 
2001-08-27 11:29:43 AM
Fark this whining biatch.. Her boyfriend did it. He prolly lied his ass off to her to cover his own.
Who cares anyhow.
Hacking and Piracy are wrought with pitfalls... You wanna challenge the system, you tempt the fates...
We all do it and laugh our asses off about "Getting Over" on the system but as soon as we get nailed for doing what we KNOW to be illegal... Piss and Moan, Whine and Biatch... "Pitty me for the man has smacked my hand".
Grow up and get over it!!!!
 
2001-08-27 11:32:58 AM
the RIAA and the MPAA can fucking blow it out their fucking asses. These fucking jerks need to lay off the crack pipe and leave the common joe alone.
 
rpm
2001-08-27 11:48:22 AM
Qwerty2 It doesn't take XP. You can download stuff to do so on 95/98 as well. It doesn't make any difference whatsoever.

And for usenet posts it doesn't take much to fake an IP, just a provider that doesn't put on NNTP-Posting-Host header, and then throw your own on. I just want to see people doing that and using the RIAAs IP address
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2001-08-27 11:54:31 AM
wait a minute...AOL uses different IP addresses whenever signs on, and sometimes when I answer polls online, it says "a vote from this IP address has already been submitted"...i know nothin about the internet..:looks at boobies:
 
2001-08-27 12:16:24 PM
Albert: My 80 gig and 20 gig are both full of that shiat :) movies, music vids, etc.
Life is sweet.
 
2001-08-27 12:17:41 PM
Fark AOL
 
2001-08-27 12:35:35 PM
id just like to add -

http://adbusters.org/home/
 
2001-08-27 01:04:14 PM
Are they trying to turn public opinon against them?
 
2001-08-27 01:32:45 PM
Rpm:just a provider that doesn't put on NNTP-Posting-Host header, and then throw your own on.

Do you know of any? I've never encountered one.
 
2001-08-27 01:40:05 PM
What has the world come to when people cannot feal safe with a 60gig hard-drive jam packed full of copywrited material (Mp3's, Movies, Episodes). Anybody else notice that the Talaban and MPAA both opted for dening internet.
 
2001-08-27 02:09:50 PM
Well this sucks. This could close down the best porn sites! (yes, the ones where you can download tons of porn flicks in MPEG format such as http://www.movietitan.com)

-he who stacks pork
 
rpm
2001-08-27 02:28:11 PM
JJorsett Newscene doesn't, unless it's changed lately. I'm willing to guess many of the free ones don't either, but I don't know that for sure.
 
2001-08-27 03:24:57 PM
If I want to pirate copywrited material its my right to be a pirate! Har har me mateys
 
2001-08-27 03:40:06 PM
With half of the crap coming out of Hollywood these days, I don't know why you would want to waste the bandwidth downloading them... much less paying the enormously inflated prices to waste 2 hours of your day on mindless fluff. People need to send a message to the producers, maybe start with a viewer boycott of the Oscars. If they want to try to control our lives.. then we can control their cashflow.
 
2001-08-27 04:00:31 PM
 
2001-08-27 04:05:12 PM
That's pretty farked up...
 
2001-08-27 04:06:27 PM
 
2001-08-27 04:07:27 PM
oh I dunno, may come in handy for someone someday
 
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