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(Some Guy)   Man faces drug charges for peddling cookie dough and Orajel as crack, not realizing that Girl Scout thin mint cookies are already classified that way   (pittsburghlive.com) divider line
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2008-11-19 08:05:53 AM  
frozen thin mints are the best

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2008-11-19 08:06:52 AM  
Are they made out of real girl scouts?
 
2008-11-19 08:09:22 AM  
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It's true; these things just sell themselves.

Q: What's blue and comes in brownies?
A: Cub Scouts

/yes, I know
 
2008-11-19 08:11:10 AM  
Ya know, I think if someone is selling cookie dough as heroin and someone buys it under that guise, they deserve a medal.
 
2008-11-19 08:14:47 AM  
-I've never gotten the concept of charging someone with selling fake 'drugs'. Who does it hurt except maybe the 'dealer' getting jacked up by an angry customer? It's like charging you with statutory rape for having sex with a 20 year old because she looks underage...
 
2008-11-19 08:15:27 AM  

The_Original_Roxtar: frozen thin mints are the best

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No thanks... chocolate covered toothpaste is not my idea of crack... now Tagalongs... Oh. Em. Gee.
 
2008-11-19 08:16:23 AM  

Amigajoe: -I've never gotten the concept of charging someone with selling fake 'drugs'. Who does it hurt except maybe the 'dealer' getting jacked up by an angry customer? It's like charging you with statutory rape for having sex with a 20 year old because she looks underage...



I think it constitutes some type of fraud.
 
2008-11-19 08:16:54 AM  

Amigajoe: -I've never gotten the concept of charging someone with selling fake 'drugs'. Who does it hurt except maybe the 'dealer' getting jacked up by an angry customer? It's like charging you with statutory rape for having sex with a 20 year old because she looks underage...


I wanna be arrested...
 
2008-11-19 08:16:57 AM  
People like this are tarnishing the record for all the upstanding and trustworthy drug dealers out there.
 
2008-11-19 08:21:33 AM  
So when cops sell fake drugs, it's okay?
 
2008-11-19 08:29:42 AM  
"Rutter said a video camera on a private residence filmed the man, but police could not identify him. The robber is described as a black male between the ages of 16 and 20."

Well, that should narrow it down then.
 
2008-11-19 08:45:49 AM  
This story has all kinds of good--

"Rutter said even if the substance is cookie dough, police can file charges of possession with intent to deliver a counterfeit substance."

You can get arrested for selling cookie dough now? Really? I mean, we've (or most of us) have been wronged on a shady drug deal in the past. I never really knew the cops were looking out for me when I gave that fella $10 for some oregano.
 
2008-11-19 08:51:34 AM  
Reminds me of the guy on COPS who was selling peanuts as crack.

He was getting a kick out of the police questioning until they arrested him.
 
2008-11-19 08:57:17 AM  
"VIIILDERNESS GUUUURLLLZ!"

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2008-11-19 09:00:58 AM  
"Rutter said even if the substance is cookie dough, police can file charges of possession with intent to deliver a counterfeit substance"

In order for that to work wouldn't it NEED to be a counterfeit substance ? If not then proof would need to be established that there was INTENT to supply a counterfeit substance... He knew it wasn't counterfeit so there was no intent.

I'd let him go. And give him his cookie dough back.
 
2008-11-19 09:04:59 AM  
TFA: police can file charges of possession with intent to deliver a counterfeit substance

OK, that one makes my head spin. There is a law against ripping off addicts? Or does this apply to any substance? Like SPAM or CheeseWhiz?
 
2008-11-19 09:11:12 AM  
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It is like crack for some people.
 
2008-11-19 09:17:19 AM  
Another fine use of police time.
 
2008-11-19 09:21:41 AM  
Now with the federal government, 21 USC 841 or so, *counterfeit* substances such as cookie dough, that is said to be a drug carries the same penalty as if it were 100% real. Basically this means that they would weigh the cookie dough and charge for that weight, which means 20-life in this case. It seems the local police have a similar law, although my guess is that he would get 6-12 months that way.

In my opinion stuff like that is bullshiat, at most they should be able to charge for fraud, since he is advertising one thing and selling another, but not for a drug statute, especially since that counts as a strike at least in the federal system as a "VIOLENT criminal" (drugs and/or violence count, 3 and you are basically getting the max the statute has). It has far reaching implications over and above the instant offense.

Obama used to smoke crack, but unfortunately he wont even push to do anything about some of the silly drug laws like this (and cant order the states to change their laws that is not constitutional, court affirmed), he has said that yeah he used drugs, but if you do it its jail time. So its unlikely that any other politician would push for this.
 
2008-11-19 09:30:00 AM  

Amigajoe: -I've never gotten the concept of charging someone with selling fake 'drugs'. Who does it hurt except maybe the 'dealer' getting jacked up by an angry customer? It's like charging you with statutory rape for having sex with a 20 year old because she looks underage...


The law does exist to a point that way. With the pr0n industry in america if you advertise that someone is underage, or otherwise imply that they are then its the same as if they really were. You can have an 80 year old and say she is 17 and bam its a jail you are goin, and registration for life as a sex offender if its a federal thing.

The biggest reason these laws exist is because the cops do not want to have a bad bust, its politicians trying to make the police look better. If the cops see what looks like a drug deal they can bust people, if anyone admits they were selling fake drugs as drugs then they can give em jail. There were kids who instead of playing "cops and robbers" in the park they were playing "drug dealer" where they pulled grass from the ground and shoved it in baggies and pretended to be dealers. The cops saw this and arrested them, it makes the cops look stupid for doing this so they made it illegal.

There is also the *claim* that some people use fake stuff like this to weed out drug police (vice, dea, etc), so they sell fake as real and if its not a cop they give the real to eventually, as part of the undercover detection stuff. I do not believe this is viable given the way the drug operations are run, usually multiple years to get the weight up high enough to cause a mandatory 20 year minimum to encourage cooperation from those arrested. But its a claim made in support of the law.

It has little to do with societal woes, if people want to do stupid stuff and risk getting beat down as a result you cant pass a law that will prevent that. Tossing people in jail for this stuff also increases that risk, since it becomes public that it was fake, the placebo effect is enough for some people to feel like they got something even when they didnt, but the arrest makes the news and people know they got ripped off (or think they did) and thus seek revenge.

Personally I dont think the laws are effective, they dont stop any of the real drugs from hitting the streets, they dont stop the real addicts from committing crimes to get the money (as hardcore addicts are known to do), they stop nothing.

/lives in amsterdam where things are somewhat different
//they are talking about closing down all coffeeshops, smartshops, etc
///fortunately there are enough in government fighting that
 
2008-11-19 09:32:04 AM  
hello??

SAMOAS! Or whatever they call them now.
 
2008-11-19 09:54:14 AM  
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These are better than Thin Mints (trust me), and much easier to get. $6 gets you 2 boxes of them at Walgreens.
 
2008-11-19 09:55:47 AM  
Yeah, but imagine their surprise when they go to cook up their score and they end up with a delicious, gooey chocolate chip cookie! Life aint' all bad, y'know?
 
2008-11-19 10:14:41 AM  
I came for the Family Guy Cookie Monster, and I can leave happy.

/ Still classic...
 
2008-11-19 10:38:09 AM  
Thin Mints just haven't been as good since they changed the formula
 
2008-11-19 11:06:40 AM  
Cyborg77: It is like crack for some people.

THANK YOU, I came here for that pic.
 
2008-11-19 11:10:59 AM  

keiran: These are better than Thin Mints (trust me), and much easier to get. $6 gets you 2 boxes of them at Walgreens.


Those ARE awesome...

...but no WAY are they better than Thin Mints.

Thin Mints are cookies made of win.
 
2008-11-19 01:46:39 PM  

Cyborg77: It is like crack for some people.


Came in for that.
 
2008-11-20 10:32:47 AM  
They call him the dummy mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...


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