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2008-11-16 12:06:21 PM
I like this guys comment:

klb2948 wrote-
stupid, just plane stupid.
any sports player getting payed $100mil or $140 mil for 5 and 6 yrs is just STUPID!
im in iraq getting shot at defending our country for these types of deals and i just break 30,000 a year.
FKN STUPID!
 
2008-11-16 12:12:34 PM
Is it wrong to be upset that the MLB has made it completely impossible for teams in small markets to have any chance of getting free agents? All other sports have dealt with this issue, why not baseball?


/biased as hell
 
2008-11-16 12:29:32 PM
Mythy: I like this guys comment:

klb2948 wrote-
stupid, just plane stupid.
any sports player getting payed $100mil or $140 mil for 5 and 6 yrs is just STUPID!
im in iraq getting shot at defending our country for these types of deals and i just break 30,000 a year.
FKN STUPID!


me too. it's hilarious when people think fighting in iraq = defending our country. plus payed instead of paid is funny too.
 
2008-11-16 12:39:27 PM
Well, I'm not arguing against Doug Melvin being bitter that he can't over-pay CC Sabathia by 70 million dollars over the next five years.

Melvin's the same guy who overpaid by about $9.5 million for Eric Gagne last year, traded away the logical replacement for an unhappy Bill Hall and a streaky Corey Hart (Matt LaPorta) for CC Sabathia and just grabbed Mike Cameron (he of the sub-.250 batting average) for an option year at $10 million. He's the same guy who hired the opposite kind of manager from Ned Yost (a player's manager) in Ken Macha (whose players hated him in Oakland).

Let Sabathia go and pick up the draft picks. Even though your draft wizard is now the Mariners' GM, you can still hit on one or two of the six or seven first- and second-round picks you'll get in compensation for Torres, Sheets and Sabathia.

/Brewers fan
//Laughs at Yankees for buying CC
 
2008-11-16 12:46:30 PM
pd771: Is it wrong to be upset that the MLB has made it completely impossible for teams in small markets to have any chance of getting free agents? All other sports have dealt with this issue, why not baseball?


/biased as hell


pd771: Is it wrong to be upset that the MLB has made it completely impossible for teams in small markets to have any chance of getting free agents? All other sports have dealt with this issue, why not baseball?


/biased as hell


grew up in FLA, watched them win a series basically spending nothing, and lots of other teams are kicking the New Yorks & Bostons asses spending far less.

Its a shame they can't keep a player that they made a big trade for, but what the hell does he want? For no one to bid more than they can? The Yankees COULD play an arbitrary bidding contest but obviously Melvin can't go as high as the 140-150 offer New York made so why should they waste time trading bids with Milwaukee? They probably have other free agents they need to over pay for too.
 
2008-11-16 12:55:20 PM
the bigger problem in baseball, in my eyes, is the ownership approval. You have way too many of these guys that just either think it would be cool to own a sports team or approach it strictly as a business venture.

In example the Chicago Cubs sale. Mark Cuban is a competitor, he wants to make money but he also wants TO WIN. MLB will never let him by The Cubs, but I'm sure some rich a-hole that might have a temporary interest in owning a baseball team will get the chance. There was never a salary cap in baseball, and it didn't matter when the owners were a bunch of old rich dudes trying to one-up each other and compete outside of the business world.

Now you have owners that either don't care about the competitive aspect of sports, or their interest waned after that initial "Wow I can't believe I own my own team!" couple of years.
 
2008-11-16 12:56:17 PM
pd771: Is it wrong to be upset that the MLB has made it completely impossible for teams in small markets to have any chance of getting free agents? All other sports have dealt with this issue, why not baseball?


/biased as hell


Came here to say this. I guess, in this way, it is the most American of sports.
 
2008-11-16 01:04:46 PM
Come on, it's not like everybody in the state of Wisconsin didn't know Sabathia was a rental anyway.
 
2008-11-16 01:08:00 PM
Gosling: Come on, it's not like everybody in the state of Wisconsin didn't know Sabathia was a rental anyway.

We've all started deluding ourselves that CC loved last season so much that he's going to stay for less money.
 
2008-11-16 01:19:01 PM
WaltzingMathilda: Mythy: I like this guys comment:

klb2948 wrote-
stupid, just plane stupid.
any sports player getting payed $100mil or $140 mil for 5 and 6 yrs is just STUPID!
im in iraq getting shot at defending our country for these types of deals and i just break 30,000 a year.
FKN STUPID!

me too. it's hilarious when people think fighting in iraq = defending our country. plus payed instead of paid is funny too.


what do you expect from high school dropouts?

/one ticket please
 
2008-11-16 01:20:26 PM
If the Yankees sign him, they lose a draft pick, correct? I know the Brewers would get 2 picks between first and second round.
 
2008-11-16 01:35:26 PM
Apparently Melvin was told there would be no math. The Yankees bid included an extra year, so if they offered $110 million over 6 years, it would be less per year than the Brewers $100 million over 5 years.
 
2008-11-16 01:45:49 PM
Mr. Slippyfist: Apparently Melvin was told there would be no math. The Yankees bid included an extra year, so if they offered $110 million over 6 years, it would be less per year than the Brewers $100 million over 5 years.

Not enough to justify living in Milwaukee.
 
2008-11-16 01:49:55 PM
This is why we traded CC to you in the first place. We knew we weren't going to be able to compete. Now you are biatching about the system?

What did you give us for him? . . . nothin'
 
2008-11-16 01:53:56 PM
historycat: What did you give us for him? . . . nothin'

Matt LaPorta is "nothin'?" I'm sure just about any other team would be willing to take him off your hands.
 
2008-11-16 02:43:00 PM
machoprogrammer: If the Yankees sign him, they lose a draft pick, correct? I know the Brewers would get 2 picks between first and second round.

That's correct. What pisses me off as a Yankees fan is that we're supposedly going after a bunch of type-A free agents (Sabathia, Burnett, Lowe), meaning that if we sign them, we lose three top picks. Yeah, we'll get two back if Mussina and Abreu leave, but Mussina is probably retiring and my gut feeling is Abreu stays. Sabathia/Burnett/Lowe are all also likely going to decline either this year or next, due to overwork, age, or regression to past form. This is how we got into the Kevin Brown debacle. Why could we not swing the trade for Santana last year? I'm sure glad we hung on to Ian Kennedy, that worked out well...sigh.
 
2008-11-16 04:32:19 PM
Grey Street: machoprogrammer: If the Yankees sign him, they lose a draft pick, correct? I know the Brewers would get 2 picks between first and second round.

That's correct. What pisses me off as a Yankees fan is that we're supposedly going after a bunch of type-A free agents (Sabathia, Burnett, Lowe), meaning that if we sign them, we lose three top picks. Yeah, we'll get two back if Mussina and Abreu leave, but Mussina is probably retiring and my gut feeling is Abreu stays. Sabathia/Burnett/Lowe are all also likely going to decline either this year or next, due to overwork, age, or regression to past form. This is how we got into the Kevin Brown debacle. Why could we not swing the trade for Santana last year? I'm sure glad we hung on to Ian Kennedy, that worked out well...sigh.


If the Yankees pick up CC and one more FA starter, I don't mind them losing the picks. I don't think Abreu comes back, so they'll get a pick there. Moose is retiring, so he's gone. They'll pick up a couple of lower picks somewhere as well through other teams' signings.

As long as they don't get CC, Lowe and Burnett, I'm fine with it. Initially I wanted Burnett, but he has high injury risk. If they end up with CC and Lowe, along with Hughes, Pettitte and Joba/other #5, I think that works well as a rotation. Don't overpay for big Tex and go into the season with a solid, but not star-powered lineup.
 
2008-11-16 04:50:46 PM
John Nash: Gosling: Come on, it's not like everybody in the state of Wisconsin didn't know Sabathia was a rental anyway.

We've all started deluding ourselves that CC loved last season so much that he's going to stay for less money.


I beleive that Mosey called me an idiot several times in Spetember for insinuating that the Brewers would be unable to resign Sabathia, because the expiring contracts of bad players were up and they would have a ton of money to throw at him and Sheets.
 
2008-11-16 05:06:55 PM
Well, I mean, he eats children. Who cares what he says?
 
2008-11-16 06:06:46 PM
Gosling: Come on, it's not like everybody in the state of Wisconsin didn't know Sabathia was a rental anyway.

Yup. He had to know this was the deal.
 
2008-11-16 06:13:14 PM
Why would the Yankees care about draft picks, they use the rest of the MLB as their farm system. The Brewers had eight players starting for them on opening day that came up through their system....Yankees had what three or four? and by the end of the year maybe only jeter?\
 
2008-11-16 06:17:54 PM
I had no illusions that CC was anything but a half-season rental, but that doesn't change the fact the Yankees and 2-4 other team' treasure chests make MLB a sad joke.

The Devil Rays 1 in a million shot this past season was cool, interesting, and fun for EVERYONE.
The Yankees/REd Sox dominating the sport decade after decade...notsomuch.

Two words: Salary Cap
 
2008-11-16 06:33:57 PM
The Viewer: I had no illusions that CC was anything but a half-season rental, but that doesn't change the fact the Yankees and 2-4 other team' treasure chests make MLB a sad joke.

The Devil Rays 1 in a million shot this past season was cool, interesting, and fun for EVERYONE.
The Yankees/REd Sox dominating the sport decade after decade...notsomuch.

Two words: Salary Cap


The Red Sox & Yankees dominating baseball decade after decade? The Red Sox sort of went like 90 years without dominating anything, and the Yankees sucked for what, like 20 years before they won in 96....and when they won they weren't handing out 100 million dollar contracts that I recall.

Follow baseball, THEN comment. As a small market fan that has seen it work, if anything irritates me its when people point to a couple of instances to make a generalization. Its like hearing someone complain about a liberal bias in the media, you see what you want to see but that doesn't make it completely true.
 
2008-11-16 06:34:11 PM
Billthethrill:I beleive that Mosey called me an idiot several times in Spetember for insinuating that the Brewers would be unable to resign Sabathia, because the expiring contracts of bad players were up and they would have a ton of money to throw at him and Sheets.

I believe you are well, wrong. In fact, I was exactly right because the Brewers did take expiring players money and make a legit offer to CC. Or is the 100 million dollar offer some sort of shiatball insult?

Your sentence doesn't even make sense actually. It is like you had three thoughts in your tiny brain and they all got jumbled up and barfed out at once.

Well, you got the part right about me calling you an idiot.
 
2008-11-16 07:37:17 PM
jappa7The Red Sox & Yankees dominating baseball decade after decade? The Red Sox sort of went like 90 years without dominating anything, and the Yankees sucked for what, like 20 years before they won in 96....and when they won they weren't handing out 100 million dollar contracts that I recall.

Follow baseball, THEN comment. As a small market fan that has seen it work, if anything irritates me its when people point to a couple of instances to make a generalization. Its like hearing someone complain about a liberal bias in the media, you see what you want to see but that doesn't make it completely true.



What small market team do you follow because I can't name one that is consistently been in the playoffs like the sox or Yankees have been for the past decade. The Yankees have made a dozen or so horrible moves that would kill any other team but they just buy themselves out of it.

Yeah teams like the brewers and rays do make the playoffs each year but it takes them years(around 26) of building up their farm systems and in many cases they only have a year or two window in which to win until all their talent is bought up by the big market clubs.

/prince fielder future DH of the yankees
 
2008-11-16 07:46:17 PM
BilltheThrill: John Nash: Gosling: Come on, it's not like everybody in the state of Wisconsin didn't know Sabathia was a rental anyway.

We've all started deluding ourselves that CC loved last season so much that he's going to stay for less money.

I beleive that Mosey called me an idiot several times in Spetember for insinuating that the Brewers would be unable to resign Sabathia, because the expiring contracts of bad players were up and they would have a ton of money to throw at him and Sheets.


You mean you pay attention to what he says?

I mean, Mosey is a fan of my team, so that makes him okay in my book, but I wouldn't really worry about or pay attention any brash proclamations he makes.
 
2008-11-16 07:55:13 PM
The Viewer: I had no illusions that CC was anything but a half-season rental, but that doesn't change the fact the Yankees and 2-4 other team' treasure chests make MLB a sad joke.

The Devil Rays 1 in a million shot this past season was cool, interesting, and fun for EVERYONE.
The Yankees/REd Sox dominating the sport decade after decade...notsomuch.

Two words: Salary Cap


The rays weren't one in a million, and they're looking pretty good for a long time. They've got a ton of starting talent and are absolutely STACKED in the minors.

Nobody who follows baseball at all would call them a fluke. They're legitimately a very, very talented team.
 
2008-11-16 08:45:56 PM
Entropy: The Viewer: I had no illusions that CC was anything but a half-season rental, but that doesn't change the fact the Yankees and 2-4 other team' treasure chests make MLB a sad joke.

The Devil Rays 1 in a million shot this past season was cool, interesting, and fun for EVERYONE.
The Yankees/REd Sox dominating the sport decade after decade...notsomuch.

Two words: Salary Cap

The rays weren't one in a million, and they're looking pretty good for a long time. They've got a ton of starting talent and are absolutely STACKED in the minors.

Nobody who follows baseball at all would call them a fluke. They're legitimately a very, very talented team.


But they will be picked apart by the big market vultures over the next couple of years, just like the Brewers.
 
2008-11-16 09:06:54 PM
WaltzingMathilda: me too. it's hilarious when people think fighting in iraq = defending our country. plus payed instead of paid is funny too.

You are so awesome; just how do you do it?
 
2008-11-16 09:58:30 PM
thegod082: WaltzingMathilda: me too. it's hilarious when people think fighting in iraq = defending our country. plus payed instead of paid is funny too.

You are so awesome; just how do you do it?


Easy. I got an education, which allows me to understand the difference between national defense and conquest ... oh, and how to spell.
 
2008-11-17 08:48:21 AM
Sabyen91: But they will be picked apart by the big market vultures over the next couple of years, just like the Brewers.

They'll be good for the next 3-5 years I'm willing to bet, at the least. Even if they don't shell out as their talent gets more expensive, like I said, they have an amazing farm system right now. Beyond that, who can say for any team? Their drafting and development has been very good though.
 
2008-11-17 09:08:51 AM
BoySetsFire: What small market team do you follow because I can't name one that is consistently been in the playoffs like the sox or Yankees have been for the past decade. The Yankees have made a dozen or so horrible moves that would kill any other team but they just buy themselves out of it.

What large market teams have been consistently in the playoffs year after year? Red Sox... umm...

LA? Mets? Yankees? White Sox and Cubs, sorta. Anyone but the Red Sox have a better "last five years" than say the Twins or Cardinals?

Yeah the Pirates suck every damn year, but so does Baltimore.
 
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