I assume the tag is for the Daily Fail, who once again makes a mountain out of a molehill via a variety of "ifs", "coulds" and "mights".

Because in considering the opinions of five-year-olds, they will have to take all of the suggestions literally.

offering opinions =/= mandating policy

Those snowflakey crotchfruits!

Liberals have ruined the education system in this country. Thank God we no longer grade papers in red ink, give grades below 65, assign homework or keep score in soccer anymore.

/and than you wonder how Emo kids are created?

Upon reading the article, not only does this seem perfectly reasonable, but it reminds me of my own education here in the U.S.

I suspect the response the British children will give is something like "We don't need no education" or something to that degree.

Worked at a daycare. We did a similar thing. You'd be surprised with an authority figure reinforcing "ooh thats a good rule "no hitting"" and helping with the wording the kids know the rules. Then when they break them you can ask "you choose the rules why would you break them?"

//Why teh fail flag?

No way! You mean that kids who are constantly doing things like playing video games and otherwise being stimulated to the nth degree (why, yes, I will have a seat over there and some of this lemonade) would actually hope that teachers would do something other than force rote memorization and demand constant quiet? OMG, HOW INSANE!

What's next? You will tell me that the average teacher can't "stay quiet" in college classes or even in a farking weekend long "continued education session," and the teacher's excuse will be, "It's boring and not necessary?" Welcome to elementary and high school, you farking retards. This is exactly what your students think, most likely because it is true. School is helpful for socialization and realizing that retarded people become teachers. That's about it.

This should work splendidly. Because every five year old knows what's best for himself.

Sock Puppet Army: Worked at a daycare. We did a similar thing. You'd be surprised with an authority figure reinforcing "ooh thats a good rule "no hitting"" and helping with the wording the kids know the rules. Then when they break them you can ask "you choose the rules why would you break them?"

//Why teh fail flag?

Tom Tyler has been arguing this for a long, long time. Procedural justice is much more important than the outcome (according to Tyler). As long as someone feels that the procedure was fair, you can tie them to a farking semi and drive them into a wall.

Epsilon: This should work splendidly. Because every five year old knows what's best for himself teacher is absolutely clueless when it comes to knowing what is best for a five-year-old.

My school is run this way. The fail tag is correct.

The student council (11-12 year olds) did formal observations on the teachers and created personal improvement plans for each teacher.

My plan included "let students choose their own seats" and "drink less coffee."

Yeah, I fail on strike tags. Point being, to pretend that the teachers have a farking clue is so damn naive that I could probably get you to buy seven bridges today. It takes a real retard to see any problem with this. Really.

REMEMBER: A kid who tells on another kid is a dead kid.

onezero: REMEMBER: A kid who tells on another kid is a dead kid.

Maybe if the kid who tells is a giant pussy. But for the rest of the students, no.

Is this like Kiditentiary?

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Great, now they are going to be given soda and candy for breakfast, and nap time will be six hours long!

One Thirty-two and Bush: Those snowflakey crotchfruits!

Those crotchfruity snowfles!.

Because we know that when left to their own children will make wise decisions:

snowfles= snowflakes.

Offering opinions? But if they are taught that their opinion matters, then how on earth will they learn to be mindless unthinking drones, serving the needs of the rich?

Schools were the first robot factories.

I'm normally loath to call "bias" on media sources, but the Daily Mail have been running stories like this since the days of Lords Northcliff and Rothermore.

Ed "#1 Broncos Fan" Hochuli says:

Illegal use of Fail tag, on the submitter. 15 yard penalty, repeat first down.

This actually works well in the Sudbury Valley school and other schools modeled on that system.

Ni!: Poe did it!

Poe rules.

Pffft. We had things like this at our school. Worked fine - they accepted some minor issues (allowing girls to wear trousers was one I remember) but naturally no important policy was set by what the students wanted. Teaches the kids something about democracy and debate while doing no harm - seems fine to me.

Epsilon:
This should work splendidly. Because every five year old knows what's best for himself.

They couldn't fark it up anymore than the school boards seem to be doing and will probably do a more mature successful job.

On a related note, 7th grade sex education just got a bit more...hands on.

ClicheGuevara07: On a related note, 7th grade sex education just got a bit more...hands on.

Where do I sign up to be a TA?

/I offer very good prices on home tutoring as well.

FTA:

"...it will be open to abuse and is likely to lead to more bureaucracy."

That's the whole point. The people running the school systems in both the US and UK view the system as a jobs program for losers with social science degrees who can't compete in the economy. Any time they get the chance they shift power and money away from teachers and to the bureaucrats.

Bart says....

"... MORE ASBESTOS! MORE ASBESTOS!"

"I think punshment should be candy an we shuld get free candy and if you eat the moast candy, you never get punshed again and we shuld be able to pee in the hallway if we want!"

"We'll take that under advisement, Crimson."

Came here to say that, yes, kids should have some input into their education.

\I see that several people have already said that
\\Carry on
\\\FAIL tag FAIL

They'll probably offer better opinions than the Daily Heil.

Check out Sudbury Valley Schools. I have a kid in the one in Framingham, MA. The kids really do run the school. No grades and they do what they want. Not for everyone, but for my son it is the right environment.

I would sort of like to see the suggestions they put in.

Kinda reminds me of when we voted for student government, and people would campaign on ideas like less homework, and getting Coke machines installed in the cafeteria.

This illusion of input. The admin may read the stuff and laugh at it, but it likely goes straight to the cyclical filing cabinet.

Eddie Adams from Torrance: ZOMG! THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE OPINIONS OF THE PEOPLE THEY'RE PROVIDING SERVICES TO!11! WHY WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?

I was a programmer for a number of years, got burned out and am now a math teacher. I'll be moving on to something different soon. I really like the work, the kids (7th grade) are great, but the way the schools are run is ridiculous. So much is heaped on your plate that for the pay you get it's not worth it.

Younger, more enthusiastic and hard-working, teachers like myself get tired of it and move on quickly due to poor pay and school management. Those that suck at anything else, or are too lazy to get another job or go back to school stay on and create the worst possible learning environment.

I work with a lot of idiots that can't relate to the kids or even inject a bit of creativity into their lessons. They don't want to take the time and because of that kids slip through the cracks.

What these kids should ask for is more highly-qualified educators and a curriculum that is geared towards a test taken once a year.

The only opinions a 5 year old (or anybody who can be entertained by a purple dino) should have are the ones he is told to have.