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(Guardian)   Politicians want to "name and shame" ISPs who fail to remove offensive material, fail to realize ISPs know no shame   (guardian.co.uk) divider line
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2008-11-15 09:45:25 AM  
So when do they release the list of best hosts on the internet?
 
2008-11-15 09:55:37 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: So when do they release the list of best hosts on the internet?


Totally. I wonder if we can get them to list the files too, would make submitting a lot easier.

Politicians should just stay away from technology. It isn't what we pay them for.
 
2008-11-15 10:07:39 AM  
I don't want politicians to touch the internet until:

1) We get a couple politicians that understand the basic technology involved. Hell, I want a senator that's a former IT guy. It may happen one day.

2) We get a couple politicians that understand the first amendment, and don't try to constantly fark with it because their god-of-choice says boobies are icky and that sex is something to be ashamed of.
 
2008-11-15 10:09:19 AM  
Easy way to fix this. Only allow the smart people to use the general internet.

Super hardcore porn, sorry, you can only see it if you've got an IQ of 145.
 
2008-11-15 10:10:27 AM  
What jurisdiction does the UK think it has over YouTube?
 
2008-11-15 10:21:53 AM  
+1 subby
 
2008-11-15 10:34:33 AM  
How is an ISP supposed to know whether or not you are viewing offensive material? This is absolutely retarded. Washington burn in hell.
 
2008-11-15 10:35:23 AM  
Politicians want to "name and shame" ISPs who fail to remove offensive material, fail to realize ISPs know no shame

Just have 'em lurk on FARK for a week to learn that important lesson.
 
2008-11-15 10:47:05 AM  

Shadowknight: I don't want politicians to touch the internet until:

1) We get a couple politicians that understand the basic technology involved. Hell, I want a senator that's a former IT guy. It may happen one day.

2) We get a couple politicians that understand the first amendment, and don't try to constantly fark with it because their god-of-choice says boobies are icky and that sex is something to be ashamed of.


so very much THIS

i'd run for even local office, but i'm not real fond of my personal life being (potentially) out on display.
 
2008-11-15 10:50:25 AM  

Iggy_Hiatus: How is an ISP supposed to know whether or not you are viewing offensive material? This is absolutely retarded. Washington London burn in hell.


FTFY. RTFA || STFU
 
2008-11-15 12:51:07 PM  

Shadowknight: I don't want politicians to touch the internet until:


Why...WHY would you add that word?
 
2008-11-15 01:04:02 PM  
Would be3 nicer if an isp would actually respond to spam complaints. Got one huge spammer coming from dreamhost, sent them a notice about it. Still no response.
 
2008-11-15 01:37:25 PM  

Snake Vargas: Shadowknight: I don't want politicians to touch the internet until:

Why...WHY would you add that word?


Because you know they will eventually. They have to have their hands in EVERYTHING, especially when it has to do with dirty, icky sex. Their God commands it. Conservatism is anything but anymore.

If they are going to fark with the internet (and they will, eventually), I want those two qualifiers fulfilled. At least then they won't do too much damage.
 
2008-11-15 02:16:41 PM  
Here in the USA the major all ISPS all dropped Usenet access to cut their costs while keeping subscription rates the same save the children since the politicians were getting kickbacks campaign donations brought the offensive Usenet group material to the ISPs' attention despite the thousands of inoffensive newsgroups that subscribers were denied access to as well.
 
2008-11-15 02:23:01 PM  
I have a hinting suspicion this would have the complete OPPOSITE desired effect.

1. Politicians name ISPs that don't filter content and give unfettered access.

2. Customers FLOCK to named ISPs

3. Profit
 
2008-11-15 02:30:26 PM  
Just a minute, if I call the culture minister an ignorant, interfering coont, is that offensive content?
 
hej
2008-11-15 04:19:05 PM  
Just wait till they discover that the ISP's aren't producing the web content.
 
2008-11-15 04:33:50 PM  
I rather like my web host, Nearly Free Speech.

Their policies rock: if the material is legal in the US and the poster has the right to make it available (e.g. not violating copyright), then they'll host it.

Unfortunately, this means that some of their customers host rather offensive sites (I believe there's a few white-supremacist sites, for example), but those people, abhorrent though their views might be, have the same right to free speech as anyone else.

Thankfully, such content is a very small minority of content hosted by NFSN, and the vast majority of their customers host perfectly ordinary material.

/hosted there for over a year now, and have been exceedingly pleased
//their pay-as-you-go prices are also nice
 
2008-11-15 05:19:16 PM  
Offensive to whom?
 
2008-11-15 05:29:31 PM  
That's like suing paper mills because people use paper to print porn.

The internet is not a truck. It's just a bunch of tubes. You can stop the mail and snoop but if you stop packets of data being pushed through the innertubes, you're stopping EVERYTHING.

This can not be done except by a fascist state. Leave it to China--even they will give up eventually.
 
2008-11-15 07:56:44 PM  
Is gootse, tubgirl, 2girls1cup, meatspin, swap.avi, mrhands, and furries considered offensive?

If so, I'd support politicians that crack down on furries.

/get em to wear a golden star that is clearly labeled
 
2008-11-15 07:59:03 PM  
I want to find an affordable Seed Box host with 100gb storage.

Any suggestions?
(MAME Torrents are a bit unweildy, especially when you have to keep ratio)
 
2008-11-15 08:33:02 PM  
Who gets to determine what's offensive?
 
2008-11-15 09:01:33 PM  

beoswulf: Here in the USA the major all ISPS all dropped Usenet access...


Usenet is dead. Even on Usenet-only services. The newsgroups are empty.
 
2008-11-15 09:59:21 PM  
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2008-11-16 12:52:20 AM  
I work for an ISP and frankly, no one gives a damn.
 
2008-11-16 03:09:56 AM  
Great idea. This worked so well when they tried to name and shame record companies by making them put big "Explicit Lyrics" stickers on so-called "offensive" albums.
 
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