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(Seattle Times)   What to expect if you're flying this holiday season: fewer flights, less room, higher fares, more fees, more crowded planes, more overbooking, more UFIAs. Pretty much the same as every year   (seattletimes.nwsource.com) divider line 98
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2008-11-13 10:43:17 AM
This is why we're not flying this season.

Even with gas at $4.00/gallon and a hotel stay for one night each way, it was still cheaper and more relaxing for us to drive back to Virginia than to fly and rent a car in Virginia.

With gas down below $2.00/gallon, it's even more of a no-brainer.
 
2008-11-13 10:44:29 AM
Eventually, there will be just one giant plane servicing all of America. It will be booked beyond capacity, and cruise at an altitude of 200 feet. People will be duct-taped to the outer hull, but only if they pay the extra $45 dollar service fee. Your luggage will be loaded on a rocket and fired toward your destination. There is no carry-on luggage, as passengers must be crammed into those overhead compartments.

Peak efficiency at top dollar.
 
2008-11-13 10:50:56 AM
I'd just like to point out that this is my 1400th green light.

Please continue with your regularly scheduled delayed thread.
 
2008-11-13 10:53:42 AM
Flew through Denver that year a lot of flights out had been canceled the week before. There were STILL people there, lining the halls, sleeping on the floor, glaring enviously at anyone passing by.... it looked like a refugee camp.
 
2008-11-13 10:58:44 AM
Next Month:

img1.fark.net Airline chiefs announce cutbacks, layoffs, request bailout due to unusually sluggish sales.
 
2008-11-13 11:22:07 AM
why would anyone want to fly anywhere this year? Unless you have your own private jet, don't fly. Because if you have to use the regular airlines, it'll suck.
 
2008-11-13 11:29:43 AM
Two Dogs Farking: I'd just like to point out that this is my 1400th green light.

Please continue with your regularly scheduled delayed thread.


Well, that's nice. It ain't no 40Below, but still nice! ;)

\From a 0 greenlighter. We depend on you guys for our daily entertainment.
 
2008-11-13 11:59:17 AM
And the airline industry enters accelerated self destruct mode. Tell people you intend to screw up their holiday travel and see what happens. I'm sure that some foreign carriers who know how to run a business will come in soon enough.
 
GCD
2008-11-13 12:26:56 PM
They must be basing their info on past holidays...You know the ones where the economy wasn't in the shiatter.
 
2008-11-13 12:29:14 PM
I'm flying this holiday season, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Flying to Vegas. Would take too long to drive both ways (2200+ miles), so I'll deal with the hassles. Plus I got $260 RT airfare from a regional airport (with free parking) less than 2 miles from my house.

Now just wondering what the Northwest/Delta merger will mean...
 
2008-11-13 12:29:36 PM
DO THIS

www.lauriegough.com
 
2008-11-13 12:30:33 PM
Dirtball: DO THIS

Gump!
 
2008-11-13 12:31:26 PM
Not me. Booked my flight to SC to see the folks a month ago and used Priceline.com. Delta accepted my third round bid of $150.00 round trip. Decent depart/return flight times too, with only one layover each way. And no Southwest air-scum to suffer through...
 
2008-11-13 12:31:36 PM
You know, lately I've been thinking to myself "You know, the auto industry is probably the most poorly run industry in the United States. Maybe the world."

I completely forgot about the airlines. They're the all-time champions for offering a shiatty service at exorbitant prices and turning no profits. Nobody will ever be able to compete with their absolute suckiness.
 
2008-11-13 12:31:42 PM
I'm going to show up with a bottle of KY, slam it down and say "Get to work!"
 
2008-11-13 12:32:16 PM
I hate flying around the holidays, but I stupidly, and somewhat drunkingly, agreed to fly with my GF to her parents' in Louisville for Christmas. It's a very big gathering for them. Fortunately, airports have booze and my FF miles covered two first-class tickets for at least part of the trip. Farkin' regional jets ...
 
2008-11-13 12:32:28 PM
Dirtball: DO THIS

stare at a picture?
 
2008-11-13 12:33:29 PM
ultraholland: I'm going to show up with a bottle of KY, slam it down and say "Get to work!"

You'll take it dry and like it, citizen!
 
2008-11-13 12:34:05 PM
SchlingFocker: This is why we're not flying this season.

Even with gas at $4.00/gallon and a hotel stay for one night each way, it was still cheaper and more relaxing for us to drive back to Virginia than to fly and rent a car in Virginia.

With gas down below $2.00/gallon, it's even more of a no-brainer.


Agreed. For the first time in 10 years I'll be driving from NYC to Cleveland for Christmas. Even with the cost of gas and a rental car it's significantly cheaper and less stressful.
 
2008-11-13 12:34:35 PM
I'm renting the biggest SUV I can get my hands on and seeing just how fast it can go.

Also, I'm taking extra cups for all the cupholders.
 
2008-11-13 12:34:36 PM
SchlingFocker: more relaxing for us to drive back to Virginia

I hate driving in Virginia. 95 sucks from DC to Richmond.

Hampton Roads? Awful.

81 in the mountains? Horrible but at least its pretty.
 
2008-11-13 12:35:17 PM
crap

we're flying for thanksgiving. because driving the 1000+ miles from new york to wisconsin is not how i want to spend what little vacation i have. as it is... we are staying with the inlaws.
i just hope we don't get raped by united again. every time we priceline our tickets we are stuck with them. they can't manage to seat my hubby and i together... they've lost our luggage or forgotten to load it each time we fly... last time we went home we spent the night in O'Hare both ways because of delays and cancellations... the nightmare goes on
however it is still shorter timewise to fly, otherwise we never would

good luck to everyone else flying home this holiday season. hope you make it safely, with all your luggage and no headaches
 
2008-11-13 12:35:43 PM
vernonFL: I hate driving in Virginia. 95 sucks from DC to Richmond.

Hampton Roads? Awful.

81 in the mountains? Horrible but at least its pretty.


81 to 64.

64 to Richmond. I love 64E to Richmond :)
 
2008-11-13 12:35:44 PM
Weaver95: why would anyone want to fly anywhere this year? Unless you have your own private jet, don't fly. Because if you have to use the regular airlines, it'll suck.

Some of my fondest holiday memories involve getting drunk with strangers in airports.
 
2008-11-13 12:36:02 PM
CastorPimp: Dirtball: DO THIS

stare at a picture?


Correct you have won the prize
 
2008-11-13 12:37:00 PM
CastorPimp: Dirtball: DO THIS

stare at a picture?


Watch Lost Highway?
 
2008-11-13 12:37:11 PM
Billygoat Gruff: You'll take it dry and like it, citizen!

I pretty much have to. When you gotta cover 3,000 miles like I do for a family X-mas celebration, you don't have many realistic options.
 
2008-11-13 12:37:12 PM
What else to expect this holiday season? Stupid stories about traveling for the holidays.
 
2008-11-13 12:37:51 PM
Dirtball: DO THIS

I can see my house from there.
 
2008-11-13 12:38:11 PM
For me to fly to my parent's place over Christmas it would run about $500. It's a 14 hour, 1,000 mile drive each way, that'd run about $80 in gas. I think I'll be loading up the MP3 player and driving. Fark the airlines in this country.
 
2008-11-13 12:39:01 PM
lajimi: And the airline industry enters accelerated self destruct mode. Tell people you intend to screw up their holiday travel and see what happens. I'm sure that some foreign carriers who know how to run a business will come in soon enough.

You do realize it is illegal for foreign carriers to fly between domestic airports.
 
2008-11-13 12:39:40 PM
Going from orlando fla to NYC to visit a cousin.

Taking the train. private room, my own shiatter, huge picture window, bring my own cooler of booze, and a bed at night. Leave in the afternoon, show up in the afternoon the next day. No lines, hardly an security.

The only way to travel.

I really like only having to stand up to take a whiz.

farm1.static.flickr.com
 
2008-11-13 12:41:51 PM
You realize that all this holiday season travel bullshiat isn't really the fault of the airlines right? It's family that's to blame. I already told the whole damn crayon-crew that if it means so much to see me over the holidays, the can come to me. Otherwise, have a great weekend and see you next year. Oh, and book yourself a hotel room if you're coming, I don't want to clean up after your fat, lazy asses either.

f_e out.
 
2008-11-13 12:41:54 PM
Killer Cars: Billygoat Gruff: You'll take it dry and like it, citizen!

I pretty much have to. When you gotta cover 3,000 miles like I do for a family X-mas celebration, you don't have many realistic options.


maybe you'll get lucky and get a few kisses and a reach around to take out some of the sting. Safe travels
 
2008-11-13 12:41:55 PM
Take a train?
 
2008-11-13 12:42:44 PM
I just checked rental car prices. Made my reservation last month for a full size car for a week @ $312. Making the same reservation today would cost me $425.
 
2008-11-13 12:43:56 PM
My wife works for UPS, so no travel for us during the holidays. However, we're talking about driving from Denver to Victoria, BC next summer. The ticket prices for 4 people and 1 dog will probably be higher than a couple of nights in a hotel each way, gas and the ferry from Tsawwassen to Nanaimo.
 
2008-11-13 12:45:55 PM
Well gas prices are coming back down so the airlines will no doubt stop the luggage charges and go back to giving the customer a free soda during the flight I am sure.
 
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2008-11-13 12:46:59 PM
jackbooty: Well gas prices are coming back down so the airlines will no doubt stop the luggage charges and go back to giving the customer a free soda during the flight I am sure.

LOL!
 
2008-11-13 12:47:05 PM
fatal_exception: You realize that all this holiday season travel bullshiat isn't really the fault of the airlines right? It's family that's to blame. I already told the whole damn crayon-crew that if it means so much to see me over the holidays, the can come to me. Otherwise, have a great weekend and see you next year. Oh, and book yourself a hotel room if you're coming, I don't want to clean up after your fat, lazy asses either.

f_e out.



I'm guessing you don't get a lot of presents.
 
2008-11-13 12:47:21 PM
Dirtball: DO THIS

Just like the planes, that image is clouded.

/That's lacist!!!
 
2008-11-13 12:47:39 PM
Chariset: There were STILL people there, lining the halls, sleeping on the floor, glaring enviously at anyone passing by.... it looked like a refugee camp.

I made a similar remark to an airline employee while stranded in some god-awful hellhole (can't recall where). I think that she was actually offended by the comment. And this was some WonderBread girl...not Congolese or even a New Orleanian like me. But what the hell, man? Perfectly well adjusted, taxpaying, dog-walking, iPod-wearing citizens were rumpled and huddled on scratchy carpet, haggard and bleary - desperate, hopeless. You could have trawled through there with a bottle of Hope and come out a rich man.
And the on-board horrors are mitigated only by the fact that you're at least getting somewhere.

I understand that it's been said five gajillion times here on Fark, but Amtrak FTW. You just have to schedule time for it, if you are able. Even if you sit next to a crackhead, it's infinitely more pleasant than being cooped in a pressurized coffin with 150 people just as pissed off as you are. If time constraints necessitate flying, I suggest drugs. All of them.
 
2008-11-13 12:49:07 PM
Well, even pics of hot stewardess ladies will not save the day; it just sucks too much to fly.

/will fly only if all other options are removed.
//git in the plane, b*tch!
 
2008-11-13 12:49:13 PM
Same old horse crap as last year and so on. Booked flights for Thanksgiving and Christmas. The Thanksgiving flight was $50 cheaper than last year, and the Christmas flight cost about the same as last year.

First, let's kill all the lawyers media people. I swear that they just make shiat up.
 
2008-11-13 12:50:26 PM
BlorfMaster: Going from orlando fla to NYC to visit a cousin.

Taking the train. private room, my own shiatter, huge picture window, bring my own cooler of booze, and a bed at night. Leave in the afternoon, show up in the afternoon the next day. No lines, hardly an security.

The only way to travel.

I really like only having to stand up to take a whiz.


Awesome.

/Trains haven't been transporting people in Mexico for a while
//So we use the bus
 
2008-11-13 12:50:42 PM
In the last airline bashing thread, I think I posted that I was considering driving 1800 miles because it would be cheaper than the $600+ the airlines wanted for a roundtrip to any of the many airports I wanted to fly into.

I just wanted to update that and say that yesterday one of the airlines (and only one) dropped prices, and I was able to get a roundtrip for $325. It involves two layovers, but the times and airports are otherwise convenient. This means I get to see my great grandma before she dies of stage IV colon cancer, assuming she makes until Dec 21st. I know this is fark and no one cares, but I thought I'd share that it did really all work out ok.
 
2008-11-13 12:53:03 PM
downtownkid: I'm guessing you don't get a lot of presents.

Ha ha ha, no I don't. Actually, the whole entourage leaving me alone is present enough.
 
2008-11-13 12:53:29 PM
This will be first time flying home for Christmas as I now live in NOLA and home is NY. I really hope I'm there for one of the local news "How is holiday travel?" stories so I can yell, "Why is this news??" at the camera crew.
 
2008-11-13 12:56:02 PM
mesmer242: In the last airline bashing thread, I think I posted that I was considering driving 1800 miles because it would be cheaper than the $600+ the airlines wanted for a roundtrip to any of the many airports I wanted to fly into.

I just wanted to update that and say that yesterday one of the airlines (and only one) dropped prices, and I was able to get a roundtrip for $325. It involves two layovers, but the times and airports are otherwise convenient. This means I get to see my great grandma before she dies of stage IV colon cancer, assuming she makes until Dec 21st. I know this is fark and no one cares, but I thought I'd share that it did really all work out ok.


But can you stand up and take a whiz while traveling?

Did not think so.
 
2008-11-13 12:57:29 PM
BlorfMaster: But can you stand up and take a whiz while traveling?

Well you CAN. Once at least.
 
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