Treygreen13: If it were treated like a Pure Democracy (with a grand total of votes) Obama's total margin of victory would have been less.

Why would you want that?

Because it's a more accurate gauge of the will of the people. Also, because I see no reason why the vote of one Montanan should have more weight than the vote of one Texan in this day and age.

Barakku

/Did you just assume

No, it, like the pic, was just a joke. I really am losing money, though.

MyrnaMinkoff: However, I dated the managing editor of three different small-town OK papers for years, and there is no way this would have gone uncovered.

I can name several ways.

In fact, I did. I can name three community newspapers off the top of my head right now that didn't carry any presidential election stories on Nov. 5.

Fellows: MyrnaMinkoff: However, I dated the managing editor of three different small-town OK papers for years, and there is no way this would have gone uncovered.

I can name several ways.

In fact, I did. I can name three community newspapers off the top of my head right now that didn't carry any presidential election stories on Nov. 5.

What is this, charades?

MyrnaMinkoff: Um...if the electoral college didn't exist, then any location in the US besides LA, Chicago, and NYC would kiss any campaigning there goodbye. Oklahoma would essentially have the same political influence nationally as a few blocks in Manhattan.

So people who live in sparsely populated areas are more important than people who live in cities? One vote - One person.

Fellows: MyrnaMinkoff: However, I dated the managing editor of three different small-town OK papers for years, and there is no way this would have gone uncovered.

I can name several ways.

In fact, I did. I can name three community newspapers off the top of my head right now that didn't carry any presidential election stories on Nov. 5.

I am talking specifically about my experience with small town OK papers. If you know three of those who did not carry the election in addition to Sapulpa, please provide links.

Treygreen13: If you abolished the electoral college, a Montanan's vote would be worth absolutely zero.

No, it would be worth one. Just like anyone else's.

Mercutio74: MyrnaMinkoff: Um...if the electoral college didn't exist, then any location in the US besides LA, Chicago, and NYC would kiss any campaigning there goodbye. Oklahoma would essentially have the same political influence nationally as a few blocks in Manhattan.

So people who live in sparsely populated areas are more important than people who live in cities? One vote - One person.

No, they're equally important, and all deserve to be heard. Which is why the system is set up in such a way that they all have a voice. We're not one country with regions, we are a union of 50 states. I hate it when people say this, but seriously...read a history or civics book or something.

just_intonation: GoodasGold: This is an example of why newspapers should have government oversight. Private ownership allows the possibility of Hate.

Let me amend that, blue state newspapers have a history of acting responsibly, so no federal oversight is needed.

Newspapers in the red states where the okies, rednecks, civil war reenactors, hunters, gun nuts, live have ideas that are different. Only these need oversight.

I've seen some really stupid comments here, but this one right here is my Gold Medal Winnar. I don't care which side of the political fence you're on -- you need the Clue Truck dispatched to your location immediately, with a full load of clues.

You got reeled in by my troll.

Pilikia: My experience in the industry tells me that politics and/or racism was in fact the culprit.

Your experience is either made up or faulty.

So because you claim to be an ink-stained wretch, I'll ask you the same question whidbey couldn't answer:

If this is blatant racism and/or politics, how is that one of my pro-Obama newspapers that actually endorsed Obama a week before the election also decided not to run any presidential election news stories on Nov. 5?

Was that also racism and/or politics? A pro-Obama newspaper is racist against Obama?

Fellows: I've got a group of newspapers operating at a six-figure loss so far this year. The AP fee is not an option.

bullshiat. AP has an option for everything, whether you want a year-round feed for multiple high-circulation papers or a single story for a high profile event in a free local weekly. Trying to explain away clear bias by whining about AP fees is just plain ludicrous. I'm calling you out - you don't know what you're talking about.

Nate57Dawg:
Exactly. I'm pretty sure everyone who is interested enough to read the Sapulpa Daily Herald already reads the Tulsa World, and the World absolutely loves Obama.

Actually, at the last minute, the Tulsa World endorsed McCain so as to not offend their readership.

Either way - any NEWSpaper should report who won the Presidency. Every American should have respect for the office itself no matter who is currently in it. Besides, it sells papers which is all any newspaper cares about (The Tulsa World sold-out and had to do a reprint a few days later because of the demand).

Fellows

and since you're not even a mildly interesting or skillful troll, I'm hitting the ignore button... now.

Gosling: They did report that their local county voted for McCain. If you're going to mention that, there's no excuse for not reporting on who won the overall election.

This.

Mercutio74: So people who live in sparsely populated areas are more important than people who live in cities? One vote - One person.

I never understood this argument. Somehow the Electoral College is better because it makes candidates campaign where there are less voters. Huh?

Fellows: So because you claim to be an ink-stained wretch, I'll ask you the same question whidbey couldn't answer:

If this is blatant racism and/or politics, how is that one of my pro-Obama newspapers that actually endorsed Obama a week before the election also decided not to run any presidential election news stories on Nov. 5?

Was that also racism and/or politics? A pro-Obama newspaper is racist against Obama?

Your anecdote is retarded. Either pony up the links to all these papers or shut up.

Nate57Dawg: Yes, let's all hate on the Okies. Never mind the fact that 502,286 of us voted for Barack Obama, the whole state needs to be nuked from orbit.

Being someone from Lancaster County, PA, I can sympathize.

\Besides, two of the hottest TFettes are Okies

bartink: I never understood this argument. Somehow the Electoral College is better because it makes candidates campaign where there are less voters. Huh?

No, because it forces the candidates to deal with issues that are relevant in less populated states and doesn't give them a free pass to ignore flyover country.

Look on the bright side, at least we have a better idea where they're gonna relocate Gitmo!

whidbey: Name them.

With links.

Doink_Boink: What is this, charades?

MyrnaMinkoff: If you know three of those who did not carry the election in addition to Sapulpa, please provide links.

A quick Google search of my home state show that neither the Northwest Arkansas Times nor the Benton County Daily Record carried "Obama elected" stories.

The Benton County Daily Record had an editorial "guessing" the winner, as they stated they went to press at 8 p.m. and a local angle on residents voting.

Mercutio74: Dental_FlossTycoon: Entire State went Red.
Every County.
Every city.
Oklahoma is Red.

Which is why the electoral college system sucks. There were quite a few people who voted for Obama.

Think the electoral college sucks? Try the popular vote - candidates will only campaign on the coasts and in Texas. Just enough to win the majority population centers - flyover country will take on a whole new meaning.

I found the lack of racism during the presidential campaign surprising. But after Obama won, I saw the racism come out and also the race card. It's been annoying from both sides from the moment his win was announced. I voted for him. Most of the people I am close to (I live in Arkansas) were McCain / Palin supporters. I believe that their choice was not racially motivated at all. But maybe I'm wrong. It's all very interesting to take in.

//eats popcorn and watches in amusement

In other news--"Sapulpa, Oklahoma gets first stop sign.
But residents say they usually turn RIGHT anyway".

/Reluctantly Lefty lately.

Pilikia: bullshiat. AP has an option for everything, whether you want a year-round feed for multiple high-circulation papers or a single story for a high profile event in a free local weekly. Trying to explain away clear bias by whining about AP fees is just plain ludicrous. I'm calling you out - you don't know what you're talking about.

You've been out of the game too long. Community newspapers are dropping the AP wire left and right.

And if you were nearby I'd easily show you my budget sheets to prove you wrong, but I love how you can claim 'bullshiat' on something you know nothing about.

As a member of the mainstream media, I am getting a kick out of these replies...


Okay seriously, my first job out of college was a tiny little county newspaper that would not report on national stories because the publisher knew the paper sat on local newsstands with USA Today and The Detroit News and Free Press. People did not read that paper to get national news, they wanted local stories only, so that's what they covered. They do not have a website so I cannot check to confirm, but I highly doubt they ran a story about Obama winning. Most likely their front page story focused on the local election results/turnout with a short mention of Obama.

whidbey: Oh...another red state smalltown newspaper who declined to mention Obama's win?

Christ, are there any more qualifications you'd like to put on the tasks you assign me?

Fellows: A quick Google search of my home state show that neither the Northwest Arkansas Times nor the Benton County Daily Record carried "Obama elected" stories.

The Benton County Daily Record had an editorial "guessing" the winner, as they stated they went to press at 8 p.m. and a local angle on residents voting.

Hahahaha. I believe you are a newspaperman if you believe I am a pony with marshmallow wings.

as an Okie, I find this all very funny
(I am an OKC area okie, not one of those white trash Tulsa area Okies)

NightOwl2255: Could you please provide proof of said dating and links to the papers to prove they did in fact provide coverage. If you can't STFU.

/Kinda sounds stupid doesn't it?

Your post? Yeah, it sounds retarded as fark because it has nothing to do with anything.

MyrnaMinkoff: Fellows: A quick Google search of my home state show that neither the Northwest Arkansas Times nor the Benton County Daily Record carried "Obama elected" stories.

The Benton County Daily Record had an editorial "guessing" the winner, as they stated they went to press at 8 p.m. and a local angle on residents voting.

Hahahaha. I believe you are a newspaperman if you believe I am a pony with marshmallow wings.

You take a nice profile photo (or two) and you like Superman. Please accept my sincere flattery.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Oh great, another one of these. Some local newsie decided not to blow the schwantz of the Chosen One...shocking....

The only people calling Obama "The Chosen One" are Republicans.

/I keep saying this. Why won't they listen?
//Oh, yeah, this is Fark. Carry on.

Mercutio74: Which is why the electoral college system sucks. There were quite a few people who voted for Obama.

Well, they should move to a place where their votes count, like Georgia or Missouri.

The Icelander:

\Besides, two of the hottest TFettes are Okies

/names please???

Hmmm. Newspaper refusing to report the NEWS simply because (presumably) their guy lost. They need to call it an editorialpaper.


/or a things-we-want-and-nothing-we-don't-paper
//this isn't the news you're looking for
///move along

Fellows: And if you were nearby I'd easily show you my budget sheets to prove you wrong, but I love how you can claim 'bullshiat' on something you know nothing about.

So did your paper carry the election results?

MyrnaMinkoff: No, they're equally important, and all deserve to be heard. Which is why the system is set up in such a way that they all have a voice. We're not one country with regions, we are a union of 50 states. I hate it when people say this, but seriously...read a history or civics book or something.

And their concerns will be proportionally heard. Take an imaginary state with .5% of the US's population. Should it not be given .5% of each candidate's attention or .5% of the total say in who runs the executive branch. There's already an inflation of the importance of small states' importance... the Senate. Each state gets two regardless of their population.

jennickell: as an Okie, I find this all very funny
(I am an OKC area okie, not one of those white trash Tulsa area Okies)

Hey, now! Okay, okay, so I'm from Sapulpa. You folks in OKC have to deal with that pit know as Shawnee.

/I keed, I keed

unrapt: \Besides, two of the hottest TFettes are Okies

/names please???

Psh, yeah. Like I'd tell a liter.