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  2010-11-04 03:14:06 AM
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Norm>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : shecumsf-ccf291
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : buffalo.rr.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : buffalo.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit E
thernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-DB-F5-D8-98
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.18.47.61


209.18.47.62


Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:59:1
M
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:59:13


Documents and Settings\Norm>tracert 209.18.47.61

cing route to dns-cac-lb-01.rr.com [209.18.47.61]
r a maximum of 30 hops:

1 ms 10 ms 11 ms 22 ms cable-mac1.bflonykk-ar4001.nyroc.rr.com [74.77.1
1]
17 ms 17 ms 25 ms gig2-2-1.buffnychs-pe01.nyroc.rr.com [98.0.0.217

10 ms 16 ms 13 ms ae2.buffnychs-pe02.nyroc.rr.com [98.0.3.63]
12 ms 14 ms 17 ms ae10-0.lncsnycd-rtr001.nyroc.rr.com [98.0.3.38]

32 ms 45 ms 45 ms ae6-0.rochnyei-rtr000.nyroc.rr.com [98.0.3.3]
28 ms 41 ms 29 ms ae10-0.syrcnycsr-rtr03.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.21.22

18 ms 41 ms 18 ms pos8-0.syrcnycsr-rtr01.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.7.153

19 ms 27 ms 17 ms tengig1-2.syrcnycsr-swt02.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.7.
]
17 ms 21 ms 19 ms eth1.syrny-ax3200-01.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.47]

* * * Request timed out.
* * * Request timed out.
* * * Request timed out.
* * * Request timed out.
* * ^C
Documents and Settings\Norm>


ok - thru my router with no dns set in router or tcpip


C:\Documents and Settings\Norm>ping 209.18.47.61 -t

Pinging 209.18.47.61 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=106
Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=106
Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=106
Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=106
Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=106
Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=106
Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=106
Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=106
Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=106
Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=106
Reply from 209.18.47.61: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=106

Ping statistics for 209.18.47.61:
Packets: Sent = 11, Received = 11, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 34ms, Average = 23ms
Control-C
^C
C:\Documents and Settings\Norm>


seems reasonable ping time

trace is hard to say condidering ICMP options on other networks or backbones..

problem is - with those servers staticed into my router - running speedtest.net my dl cut in half.. sorry seems dumber than stuff dns is not local now here is off net trace

lightning.sdsc.edu (132.249.20.6) 0.511 ms 0.276 ms 0.355 ms
2 piranha.sdsc.edu (132.249.31.8) 0.230 ms 0.241 ms 0.240 ms
3 dc-sdg-agg1--sdsc-2.cenic.net (137.164.23.133) 0.234 ms 0.262 ms 0.240 ms
4 dc-riv-core1--sdg-agg1-10ge.cenic.net (137.164.47.111) 3.735 ms 3.123 ms 2.985 ms
5 dc-tri-core1--riv-core1-10ge-2.cenic.net (137.164.46.4) 5.360 ms 4.746 ms 4.612 ms
6 dc-lax-peer1--lax-core1-ge.cenic.net (137.164.46.116) 4.477 ms 4.387 ms 4.355 ms
7 xo--lax-px1-ge.cenic.net (198.32.251.46) 4.480 ms 4.509 ms 4.482 ms
8 te1-0-0d0.cir1.la3-ca.us.xo.net (207.88.15.29) 4.608 ms 5.043 ms 4.604 ms
9 216.156.64.62.ptr.us.xo.net (216.156.64.62) 13.092 ms 16.029 ms 15.212 ms
10 ae-2-0.cr0.lax30.tbone.rr.com (66.109.6.130) 14.839 ms 13.153 ms 13.091 ms
11 ae-5-0.cr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com (66.109.6.3) 94.099 ms 95.276 ms 115.019 ms
12 ae15.clevoh1-rtr0.mwrtn.rr.com (66.109.6.71) 106.000 ms 120.774 ms 103.317 ms
13 tge0-2-0.clboh1-rtr02.ohiordc.rr.com (65.25.137.126) 111.071 ms 112.003 ms 113.475 ms
14 gig2-2.clboh1-swt01.ohiordc.rr.com (65.24.14.138) 112.176 ms gig2-2.clboh1-swt02.ohiordc.rr.com (65.24.14.142) 109.349 ms 110.466 ms
15 dns-cac-lb-01.rr.com (209.18.47.61) 111.180 ms 100.768 ms

now here is an off net trace... now look at where ip location is,,,, herndon or coudy

wow - they stopped working

was gonna send links but they stopped workin

http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/209.18.47.61

Country: United States us flag
State/Region: Pennsylvania
City: Port Allegany
Latitude: 41.7889
Longitude: -78.2585
Area Code: 814
Postal Code: 16743


is what it says now

http://www.whatismyip.com/tools/ip-address-lookup.asp

City Region/State Postal Code
- - -
Country Name Country Code Time Zone
UNITED STATES US -05:00
ISP Latitude Longitude
ROAD RUNNER HOLDCO LLC 38.9048 -77.0354
Domain Name Net Speed IP Decimal
TWCABLE.COM DSL 3507629885
Map data ©2010 Google - Terms of Use
Map
Satellite
Show labels
Terrain
1 mi
1 km


Read more: http://www.whatismyip.com/tools/ip-address-lookup.asp#ixzz14IGpOEMT


Im afraid I figured out ur dns issue...it was server oriented..and prolly a priority setting issue.. cause the monitor everything came into effect the day after election day. I just happened to be off at the right time to catch it before they covered all the tracks...bastards.


so time you use bomb, explosive, president,airplane, sniper, assassinate (how do you get that status?) you get the idea...in every email..fb post and phone call- this is not the country I almost died for.
 
  2010-11-04 03:27:15 AM
OK sorry previous post was for someone familiar with tw network.. so bottom line.. slow speeds/resolution.. I dug.. my dns servers changed--and for the first time I cant trace to them... tw has has two nocs...primary in herndon, back up in coudersport pa...
my question - my dns servers changed today.. have yours changed?
 
  2010-11-04 12:41:14 PM
[puts on former ISP engineer hat]

Traceroute is not a reliable tool for troubleshooting networks, especially today's networks. If you'll put up with a small rant...

a) Many times routing is asymmetric -- packets between two points take a different path outbound than they do inbound. Traceroute doesn't (and can't) know anything about asymmetric routing so it often gives BS results because of that. When you've got multiple backbones involved, the chances of this shoot way up, and it's often the norm rather than the exception.

b) Windows traceroute and everyone else's traceroute work differently under the hood so they interact with firewalls a bit differently... not a huge deal but makes some hops time out vs not time out on one vs the other.

c) Many networks use MPLS (or ATM) internally, which adds another layer of routing and topology that traceroute is unable to determine. For example that DCA to LAX link above could actually be (and probably is) switched through several other routers along the way using routing lower level than IP (which is what MPLS and ATM and Frame Relay do), rather than being a direct cross-country shot, making it harder to figure out just where the congestion is.

d) I've never found the speedtest stuff to be particularly accurate. There's just way too many factors involved (namely "other people's traffic") that can skew the results.

Traceroute is a good kind of rough guide but there is a lot it doesn't tell you in a larger network.

Now, all that said...

...they do seem to have some congestion issues on the DCA to LAX link. Maybe the network rearrangement is an attempt to bypass some of that congestion.
 
  2010-11-04 02:22:40 PM
Mike:
c) Many networks use MPLS (or ATM)


You never go Asynchronous Transfer Mode
 
  2010-11-04 02:34:20 PM
older networks still have it. ADSL still uses it up to the DSLAM, and sometimes still beyond it (on my provider it's ATM all the way to where the PPPoE session terminates).
 
  2010-11-06 11:35:15 AM
Yay! New job on Monday involving people who know what the hell they're talking about with regards to standards, IT and reality.

/bitter ex-employee
 
  2010-11-06 11:53:57 AM
Legios: Yay! New job on Monday involving people who know what the hell they're talking about with regards to standards, IT and reality.

/bitter ex-employee


I usually think that my employer is competent up until the point that I get the job. And then there is usually a crushing realization within my first week or so that no, no they're not.
 
  2010-11-06 12:02:03 PM
The ISP I used to work for just laid off its last engineer (my former boss) and its best tech support person. I think they're not long for this world now... I mean, who's going to keep all those Pentium 2* servers running now?

* sadly not kidding, though they do have a few P3's and a few Athlons...
 
  2010-11-08 04:09:21 PM
So how do I disable a couple keys in Win7, no knowing what they're mapped as? Two custom back/forward keys, RIGHT next to the arrow keys. Oh, were you playing a flashgame there? Too bad! Back page.

Mike: older networks still have it. ADSL still uses it up to the DSLAM, and sometimes still beyond it (on my provider it's ATM all the way to where the PPPoE session terminates).

I was just making an ATM, I've never even knowingly used it.
 
  2010-11-08 04:22:37 PM
An ATM joke* I don't know how to build an automated teller machine either
 
  2010-11-09 12:00:52 AM
TehNacho:
I usually think that my employer is competent up until the point that I get the job. And then there is usually a crushing realization within my first week or so that no, no they're not.


Actually so far I'm fairly impressed. I've previously only worked in the education sector which has a lot of 'governmental quirks', whereas now I'm in consultancy where things actually happen within the 12-24 months after they're initially discussed...

/But hey, only two days in...
 
  2010-11-09 01:01:18 AM
Barakku: So how do I disable a couple keys in Win7, no knowing what they're mapped as? Two custom back/forward keys, RIGHT next to the arrow keys. Oh, were you playing a flashgame there? Too bad! Back page.

Not exactly sure what you're referring to, but the easiest way to disable a key is to remove it from the keyboard...
 
  2010-11-10 07:41:46 PM
Just a random note, if you happen to use PGP Whole Disk Encryption on a Mac, don't install the OSX 10.6.5 update without having a Snow Leopard DVD and these recovery directions handy, or else you won't be able to boot. Not that I would have just found this out the hard way when I'm 3000 miles away from my backups. No, not at all... I got it bootable again but that was a bit scary :)
 
  2010-11-12 08:59:45 AM
I don't suppose there's a way to tell Win 7 to never let an app steal focus, is there? It's annoying in general and seems to be giving flash games trouble. I'm sure part of the problem is flash, and win 7 seems to also drop focus from a window when it's not responding (I'm not sure if that's avoidable or not in the first place).
Also, Flash sucks. It's a great tool for games and movies, but god damn it.
/I did find Firefox has a way to keep other tabs from stealing focus, I less than three firefox
 
  2010-11-12 09:15:39 AM
I got a retro USB Nintendo controller, but while the computer triggers commands under Control Panel/Game Controllers, most of the games aren't getting the commands "in the field". Is there a way to map those commands to traditional keyboard/mouse input?
 
  2010-11-12 03:52:13 PM
Sim Tree: I got a retro USB Nintendo controller, but while the computer triggers commands under Control Panel/Game Controllers, most of the games aren't getting the commands "in the field". Is there a way to map those commands to traditional keyboard/mouse input?

http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey%20English%20Version.htm

Used it for Braid, which for some freakin' reason doesn't have joypad support.
 
  2010-11-13 12:32:29 AM
Sim Tree: I got a retro USB Nintendo controller, but while the computer triggers commands under Control Panel/Game Controllers, most of the games aren't getting the commands "in the field". Is there a way to map those commands to traditional keyboard/mouse input?

No_47's link will probably work like a charm but if it does not work you might also be able to find different emulators (I can't imagine what modern PC games could be controlled with a NES two button, so I'm assuming you are talking about emulators) which offer built in joypad support.
 
  2010-11-13 12:19:53 PM
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bwuh?
 
  2010-11-13 09:52:52 PM
Man On Fire: bwuh?

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  2010-11-14 11:51:49 AM
You turned on the greenlight notification subscription...
 
  2010-11-15 04:29:22 PM
it wasn't my greenlight. hence my confusion.
 
  2010-11-15 05:36:31 PM
that, and the link number, woulda been useful info from the outset :)
 
  2010-11-16 03:39:11 PM
sorry. troubleshooting fail.

now i can't even remember what thread it was. if it happens again, will be more informative.
 
  2010-11-17 12:24:43 PM
It's past time I got my own domain. Do you guys have any recommendations on where to get one, and can you recommend a good site hosting place suitable for a geek's personal page (i.e. inexpensive, one with services, but high throughput not necessary).
 
  2010-11-17 07:59:49 PM
Google sites?
 
  2010-11-17 08:11:36 PM
I don't know what you mean by 'cheap' but I got adequate service by an outfit called Bluefish Webhosting. Didn't have anything in the way of problems beyond my stupid ass being the webmaster to my own site and causing problems for them. This was a few years ago though. Your mileage may vary.

Link (new window)
 
  2010-11-17 08:24:20 PM
My vanity website is hosted by Warped^.
 
  2010-11-18 01:44:55 AM
I use Midphase web hosting (new window)

I like em
 
  2010-11-18 02:20:05 AM
For domains I liked namecheap.com.
Can't say anything about their hosting plans, though, since I have only used them for domain/DNS/whois-privacy related stuff; and originally also email forwarding until I got my own (mail) server.


Speaking of "own server", I use a vserver instead of a webhosting plan since I
a) like to tinker
b) need a Tomcat (Java) and
c) found some Linux-vserver hosting plan that was actually cheaper than the cheapest plan offering Java hosting (their smallest vserver, additional RAM/HDD can be bought: 2.99 Euro/month for 384MB RAM, 8GB HDD, unlimited traffic - difficulty for most people here: German).
 
  2010-11-21 10:17:34 AM
Yeah, I've always done my own hosting on my own hardware, that's why I suck at recommending web hosts to people :)
 
  2010-11-21 01:35:00 PM
I made huge analogue photogram works for so long that my frame of reference is always in translation and do not understand this lexicon of
yours. I have an EOS1D Mk2 which I've had for five years and just love the brute. Lucky I got an Epson 9800 at the same time (couldn't afford that now, can't afford giant rolls of Hahnemule either) so have been making digital photograms/montages on small scale Epsons. They don't like really good paper what with the curved paper path. Love to do my own work, attempt to 'break new ground' every day and want to understand how to host my different series of large files which I do not print. A friend hooked me up with Bucketdrop for now. I'm still hissing and spitting at it. My series' also fits into animation formats, and while I found the site of an august member who makes hilarious Gilliam inspired work, promptly lost it amid a miasma of 'threads'. My friend and administrator('cause I need one) gets understandably frustrated with my ignorance of the media but I'm a prolific artist and so, amid the codswallop are some reasonable facsimiles of the visions in my head derived from the architecture of the media. I have to use old photoshop because new photoshop knows that I'm attempting to undermine it; it's sentient. He'p me, he'p me. Pixelsmash paints with refracted light.
 
  2010-11-22 12:16:02 PM
...don't like 'Bucketdrop'; it's too loud and besides I have to use it for the well-water. Oh, and no, I have all your base.
 
  2010-11-22 04:05:18 PM
Got a Galaxy S line smartphone, full data plan with no text plan. There HAS to be a way to send SMS messages as data, right? Gmail's normal texting thing doesn't work, and all the "free SMS" apps just look like they use a phone's standard SMS service and are just 'free' on the andriod market. Does anyone know a convenient way to make this work, I used to use gmail for my free SMS, none of the SMS apps seem to actually send them as data.

I would rather pay Best Buy to update my PS3's firmware than pay these bastards for neutering my phone. Unlimited data should mean unlimited data, not "oh some data is 50c per 140 bytes"
 
  2010-11-22 04:31:36 PM
I think google voice is working for this actually. Didn't initially see the "compose" menu option (it's so weird the "back" and "menu" buttons are never on the UI...cause they're on the phone). I'll have to make sure that doesn't show up on my bill somehow of course...
 
  2010-11-24 03:07:38 AM
Barakku: There HAS to be a way to send SMS messages as data, right?

Ya know, you would think someone with your major would figure this out. Just send emails. There are websites that can send SMS messages to phones. SMS basically is just data and costs the phone companies essentially nothing to send em. They make a ton of money off those things. Considering that it takes less time to call someone and give them the message than to type it out on one of those horrendously small keypads, I have yet to figure out why texting caught on at all. (yeah I know you can text in meetings and in class so the muckety mucks cant catch you.) Why not just wait till you can talk? Unless the building is on fire, it can wait.

/unlimited talk, text and web
//I think I have sent maybe 10 texts in the last year.
///seldom use the web on the phone either..
////40 bucks a month flat, no fees or addons.
 
  2010-11-24 10:09:20 PM
My computer won't go to "sleep". Wtf do I do? Only serious responses please. I tried updating the drivers and that didn't work. I'm trying to save some money here but this goddamn thing won't go on standby. It just keeps going back to full power after 2 seconds. WTF????
 
  2010-11-24 10:34:39 PM
what OS?
 
  2010-11-24 11:59:22 PM
paleryder69 :
I of course CAN get stuff like email to work, but it's not as convenient, texting should and could work just like any instant messenger with permanent history, free transmission, ect. It's moot now since I convinced the rest of my family to get smartphones and now we have the family plan with full texts. I still hate cell companies with a passion and want them to die, but it works, and it's not my dime.

On a second note, rooting voids most plans' warranties, right? (despite there being NO reason for this unless I overclock or something) Is there any way/reason they'd actually check if I did this were I to get my phone fixed for something like a screen scratch or something? Considering rooting (would that let me delete these cockf*cking factory installed apps?) but I don't want to (noticeably) void my warranty as I really do tend to abuse phones.

piaddic120: My computer won't go to "sleep". Wtf do I do? Only serious responses please. I tried updating the drivers and that didn't work. I'm trying to save some money here but this goddamn thing won't go on standby. It just keeps going back to full power after 2 seconds. WTF????

It's probably an input device waking it up in my expirence, I've noticed laser mice tend to wake up a device even with no visible movement. IF you go into device manager you can right click input devices, check the power management tab under "properties," make sure you disable any mice and there may be other devices waking the computer.

I'm assuming Windows (because I can) and that it DOES enter the sleep state (everything off, the power light blinks/goes orange/changes) but then wakes up shortly after, right?
 
  2010-11-26 11:10:55 AM
Barakku: paleryder69 :
I of course CAN get stuff like email to work, but it's not as convenient, texting should and could work just like any instant messenger with permanent history, free transmission, ect. It's moot now since I convinced the rest of my family to get smartphones and now we have the family plan with full texts. I still hate cell companies with a passion and want them to die, but it works, and it's not my dime.

On a second note, rooting voids most plans' warranties, right? (despite there being NO reason for this unless I overclock or something) Is there any way/reason they'd actually check if I did this were I to get my phone fixed for something like a screen scratch or something? Considering rooting (would that let me delete these cockf*cking factory installed apps?) but I don't want to (noticeably) void my warranty as I really do tend to abuse phones.

piaddic120: My computer won't go to "sleep". Wtf do I do? Only serious responses please. I tried updating the drivers and that didn't work. I'm trying to save some money here but this goddamn thing won't go on standby. It just keeps going back to full power after 2 seconds. WTF????

It's probably an input device waking it up in my expirence, I've noticed laser mice tend to wake up a device even with no visible movement. IF you go into device manager you can right click input devices, check the power management tab under "properties," make sure you disable any mice and there may be other devices waking the computer.

I'm assuming Windows (because I can) and that it DOES enter the sleep state (everything off, the power light blinks/goes orange/changes) but then wakes up shortly after, right?


Exactly
 
  2010-11-28 12:23:47 PM
piaddic120: My computer won't go to "sleep". Wtf do I do? Only serious responses please. I tried updating the drivers and that didn't work. I'm trying to save some money here but this goddamn thing won't go on standby. It just keeps going back to full power after 2 seconds. WTF????

Go into the BIOS and turn off the "wake on network activity" option that is inexplicably always on by default and makes it impossible to put computers on a network to sleep.
 
  2010-12-01 12:31:59 AM
Well...did that help?

FuturePastNow: piaddic120: My computer won't go to "sleep". Wtf do I do? Only serious responses please. I tried updating the drivers and that didn't work. I'm trying to save some money here but this goddamn thing won't go on standby. It just keeps going back to full power after 2 seconds. WTF????

Go into the BIOS and turn off the "wake on network activity" option that is inexplicably always on by default and makes it impossible to put computers on a network to sleep.


It should only be magic packets that can wake comps like that up, IIRC. Granted I've never ever used this feature intentionally so I don't really know. Only LAN my computers are ever on are my own.
 
  2010-12-01 02:06:48 PM
I swear LCDs are too bright now adays (or more acurately don't have low enough dimness settings). My notebook's minimum is 20%, and my phone's minimum is bright enough to see in very well lit rooms. No wonder it usually eats 60-80% of my battery.

/Just biatching
 
  2010-12-01 04:33:54 PM
piaddic120: My computer won't go to "sleep". Wtf do I do? Only serious responses please. I tried updating the drivers and that didn't work. I'm trying to save some money here but this goddamn thing won't go on standby. It just keeps going back to full power after 2 seconds. WTF????


Go into the BIOS and disable "wake on" features for LAN and PCI devices. Maybe USB too. Power saving can be hit-and-miss on Windows, especially with manufacturers' 3rd party power saving apps installed.
 
  2010-12-01 07:36:19 PM
Barakku: It should only be magic packets that can wake comps like that up, IIRC. Granted I've never ever used this feature intentionally so I don't really know. Only LAN my computers are ever on are my own.

I've had two computers (in the last couple of years) that would not stay asleep for more than a few minutes. Both Gigabyte motherboards, but I don't know if it was the mobos or something on my home network (nothing unusual). Turning off wake-on-LAN fixed it.

Then I went back in and turned off all the other "wake on" settings except keyboard activity on the grounds that that was the only one I could possibly need on.
 
  2010-12-02 09:21:02 AM
I farking hate java SO MUCH. Has anyone gotten a database connection to work in Java? No matter what I use I get a "class not found" error for some driver thing. None of the examples explain anything about this problem and a google for the error and database driver brings up extremely complicated and apparently irrelevant information. It can't be this farking hard to create a simple local database. I'm just importing java.sql.* everything needed is supposed to be there, and it's supposed to be included with all new versions of java. I don't get it.

Using eclipse for now, trying other JDKs to see if they don't have the problem.
 
  2010-12-03 02:34:22 AM
Barakku
Has anyone gotten a database connection to work in Java?

All the time.

No matter what I use I get a "class not found" error for some driver thing.

Post is worthless without details.
What class isn't found? What database and what driver do you use?
Code samples? Configuration/Classpath?



It can't be this farking hard to create a simple local database.

If you mean "database connection": it isn't hard to get one in a basic setup.

Using eclipse for now, trying other JDKs they don't have the problem.

Eclipse isn't a JDK (not sure you meant that); anyway, switching JDKs if it's the JDBC driver that isn't found will do nothing but waste your time.

-> My crystal ball says:
it doesn't find the driver class that you want to instantiate (the one you're probably trying to load manually via "Class.forName(String)".
Since you're using eclipse, I guess you didn't add the JAR with the database vendor's JDBC driver classes to your project's build path.
 
  2010-12-03 03:39:01 AM
Tips for getting better assistance with computer issues 101:

1.Always give the complete error message to the person you are asking assistance from. They may have resources that will key off these error messages.
2. When Googling errors, use quotes to isolate results that are relevant. If you are just using general terms then the answer may be several pages deep in the search.
3. Check relevant message boards for others that are having the same issue and what answers they got. I promise you are not the first to ever have that issue.
4. Thank the people that are trying to help you, they are often not getting paid to resolve your issue. Even if they are, just being a nice person in general will get you farther than "bah, that did not help"
5. If they tell you to try something that you think you have already tried, try it again by doing it exactly as they outlined. You would be surprised at what will work if done in the proper order.
6. Patience is a virtue, jumping ahead of where you think they are going will get you and them lost and frustrated.
7 8 9 and 10 The saying is the squeaky wheel gets the grease, but if it still squeaks, it gets ignored. Use your resources sparingly. If you continually seek help without a sincere attempt at resolving the issue first by yourself,at some point those who know the answers will just chuckle, shake their head and walk away.

If I had a penny for every call that got escalated to me because the caller would not listen to the tech in the first place, I would have been a rich man.

/lost my voice on a mentor line once after handling over 500 calls in 4 hours from techs fresh out of class handling their first live calls. The mentor queue stayed red the whole time.
 
  2010-12-03 04:24:53 PM
1) Just bring it to me and I'll fix it.
 
  2010-12-05 04:31:35 PM
The Voice of Doom: -> My crystal ball says:
it doesn't find the driver class that you want to instantiate (the one you're probably trying to load manually via "Class.forName(String)".
Since you're using eclipse, I guess you didn't add the JAR with the database vendor's JDBC driver classes to your project's build path.


Yeah, that was the problem. It would have been really nice if one of the 5 examples that say "just run this and it will work!" would have explained that. Or maybe if the download instructions were given with the drivers instead of just an oddly named jar file. It's working though, so whatever.
 
  2010-12-07 06:00:40 PM
Okay, phone rooted. Now to figure out how the hell to download android 2.2.
 
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