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  2009-06-07 10:46:50 PM
Welcome to web design. :p

It's a pain to get things looking the same on even different versions of IE, much less IE vs different browsers. There are standards you can follow, but IE6 is badly broken as far as some of those standards go... which doens't help things. IE7 is a lot better, IE8 is way better, but there are still a LOT of different variables:

- are you using XHTML or HTML? Some XHTML setups may send IE into "quirks" mode instead of "standards compliant" mode, that's why Fark still uses HTML 4.01
- does your HTML pass validation? (try validator.w3c.org)
- does your CSS pass validation? Most of IE6's bugs are in its CSS support
 
  2009-06-07 11:01:30 PM
GoofingOff
When I look at my site with Internet Explorer, the site looks exactly how I want it to look. However, when I look at my site with Firefox, there are a bunch of things that look weird such as pictures overlapping text, etc.

img14.imageshack.us

You probably went about it the wrong way and checked with IE while you were doing the layout; in my prejudice experience it's usually better to use a more standard compliant browser (and one that biatches about and doesn't forgive errors) and then introduce the necessary bugs so that it also works with some of the IE versions.
If something works in IE and not in Firefox, there's always a good chance that the page contains some error that IE "helpfully" corrects when it displays the page.

You might also want to check out the Firebug extension for Firefox.


Can't give any better help without more details (to a basic "Something isn't right" one can only answer "Something has to be changed").
 
  2009-06-08 12:26:05 AM
GoofingOff: I have never created a website before but I created one for my business.

You've already received good solid technical answers from others so I'll just say this: since this is for a business I strongly recommend you just go ahead and pay a professional to do it right.

I'm sure you're trying to save money but there are certain things a business shouldn't try to cut corners on. Their website is one of them. Accounting is another (go ahead and hire an accountant, don't try to wade through all that crap yourself).

/ US$0.02 worth
 
  2009-06-08 01:48:37 PM
Benny_Hill
there are certain things a business shouldn't try to cut corners on. Their website is one of them. Accounting is another (go ahead and hire an accountant, don't try to wade through all that crap yourself).

Funny; I clicked on his profile and his company happens to be one that offers such accounting services.

Also, GoofingOff, if the linked page is the one in question:
the problem seems to be absolute positioning of DIVs whose size seems to have been pre-determined by you according to the (font) size of the text they'll will contain.
If the fonts are slightly bigger in Firefox, the DIVs will overlap.

Either position some of the DIVs relative, leave some wiggle room for different font sizes or refer to the image I posted above regarding CSS and tables. ;)
 
  2009-06-08 04:14:26 PM
I got a "Null Pointer Exception" error when uploading a TXT file to a GOV website.
I got scripting enabled, and I think it's a code error on the receiving end. Any ideas?
 
  2009-06-08 05:19:35 PM
vudukungfu
I got a "Null Pointer Exception" error when uploading a TXT file to a GOV website.
I got scripting enabled, and I think it's a code error on the receiving end. Any ideas?


I think you are right; throwing a NullPointerException is what Java programs (NOT Javascript embedded in a website) do when some piece of code tries to access a property or method of something that is "null" (a reference pointing nowhere (yet)):


With web applications that might happen for example when the program on the server side expects a parameter to be in your browser's request but it isn't there (for example if you didn't fill out some form field AND the programmer was stupid enough to not consider this possibility;
configuration errors that lead to some values not being initialized are also a common source.


Besides enabling scripting you could also check that cookies are enabled, the referrer gets send, write something in each form field etc in case it's really a matter of "something isn't in the request that the program(mer) expects".
But yeah, that's their fault.
 
  2009-06-08 11:25:14 PM
GoofingOff: I have a question that I hope someone here can help me with. I have never created a website before but I created one for my business. I created it from scratch and did not use any sort of template at all. But here is my issue. When I look at my site with Internet Explorer, the site looks exactly how I want it to look. However, when I look at my site with Firefox, there are a bunch of things that look weird such as pictures overlapping text, etc. Does anyone know how to fix that so that my website looks the same with FF as it does with IE? Thanks so much in advance for your help.

Regards,
Jeff


I thought your website looked the same between the two browsers.

And, if that is the first time you have done web design, I think you did pretty good. I think maybe the font you selected for the buttons could be a little beefier though... they are so thin that they almost look like they are not being rendered right.
 
  2009-06-08 11:25:49 PM
That is, if the website linked in your profile is the website in question.
 
  2009-06-08 11:53:27 PM
The Voice of Doom: Funny; I clicked on his profile and his company happens to be one that offers such accounting services.

*chuckles* Well then I'm sure GoofingOff will agree with me that the average small business should hire a professional firm to handle accounting functions.

GoofingOff - here's what I see right now.

The contactus.html page has some coding problems. It looks like you tried to use some PHP code to handle the form processing but since this is an html page it didn't work the way you planned.

I didn't look at anything else because I stand by my original opinion - when it comes to a business site, hire a professional to do it. Personal sites aren't important and I encourage people to learn all they can with those but business sites are a different matter.
 
  2009-06-09 08:27:24 AM
The Voice of Doom: Besides enabling scripting you could also check that cookies are enabled, the referrer gets send, write something in each form field etc in case it's really a matter of "something isn't in the request that the program(mer) expects".
But yeah, that's their fault.


Guess what? I ran a simple checklist, deleted cache, cookies, turned off the pop up blocker, and added the domain to my trusted sites, and lowered the security setting for that zone, and it worked. Still, that's a lot of geek for the layperson to deal with. Fortunately, I'm tech supp, so it's all good to know.
Job security.
 
  2009-06-09 12:57:57 PM
GoofingOff - here's what I see right now....
FF WITH W7..
scripts blocked...
try to make your site act like Fark site, so as many items as possible work without cookies or scripts enabled
this code was visible to the left of contact us page.

if it were me, i would try MS publisher or frontpage and use all html [skip the php as much as you can]

Your site isn't too complex to use a template from godaddy or other webhost.

don't pay anyone for site work, youre almost done!..except maybe buy a template from webhost

This should entertain anyone trying to contact you....

_FILES[$key]['name']; $upload_Size[$i] = ($_FILES[$key]['size']); $upload_Temp[$i] = ($_FILES[$key]['tmp_name']); $upload_Type[$i] = ($_FILES[$key]['type']); $uploadlink[$i] = "$upload_folder/$upload_DstName[$i]"; $upload_fieldname[$i] = $key; $upload_fieldname_final[$i] = ucwords(str_replace("_", " ", $key)); $fieldvalue[$i] = $uploadlink[$i]; $i++; } if ($upload_Size[$i] >= $max_filesize) { $error .= "The size of $key (file: $upload_SrcName[$i]) is bigger than the allowed " . $max_filesize/1024 . " Kbytes!\n"; } } $crack[0] = '\n'; $crack[1] = '\r'; $crack[2] = "%0a"; $crack[3] = "%0d"; $crack[4] = "content-type:"; $crack[5] = "to:"; $crack[6] = "cc:"; $crack[7] = "bcc:"; $crack[8] = "mime-version:"; $crack[9] = "x0a"; $crack[10] = "x0d"; foreach ($_POST as $key => $value) { for ($k = 0; $k "; } } } if ($error) { $errorcode = file_get_contents($error_url); $replace = "##error##"; $errorcode = str_replace($replace, $error, $errorcode); echo $errorcode; exit; } $uploadfolder = basename($upload_folder); for ($i = 0; $i $value) { if (!in_array(strtolower($key), $internalfields)) { if (!is_array($value)) { $message .= ucwords(str_replace("_", " ", $key)) . " : " . $value . "\n"; } else { $message .= ucwords(str_replace("_", " ", $key)) . " : " . implode(",", $value) . "\n"; } } } if (count($upload_SrcName) > 0) { $message .= "\nThe following file have been uploaded:\n"; for ($i = 0; $i
 
  2009-06-09 06:31:38 PM
FrontPage? For the love of FSM, no, no no... even Microsoft has dropped that steaming pile (its replacement is SharePoint).
 
  2009-06-10 02:08:57 AM
Mike [TotalFark] 2009-06-09 06:31:38 PM
FrontPage? For the love of FSM, no, no no... even Microsoft has dropped that steaming pile (its replacement is SharePoint)."

// i lost my lic key for it yrs ago... so i use publisher.
i was going to get adobe flash website tools, but then all these flash vulnerabilities surfaced, along with adobe's lackadaisical attitude about timely fixes.

so this seems the right place to ask..
what is a good website builder program?

[i doubt i will ever do a flash based site]
 
  2009-06-10 02:38:42 AM
Disregarding any security problems it may have, Flash is a horrible thing to inflict upon some poor website.
 
  2009-06-10 08:23:33 AM
JSTACAT: what is a good website builder program?

Dreamweaver is the de facto standard.
 
  2009-06-10 06:53:25 PM
JSTACAT
so this seems the right place to ask..
what is a good website builder program?


Phase5 was (is?) a pretty popular program in Germany, but since it's only available in German, it will be of limited use to most people here.

For single (or few) pages I'll likely use whatever text editor is available, probably one with syntax highlighting like xemacs.
Or I might use the HTML editor ("Composer") that comes with the Seamonkey suite since Mozilla Seamonkey is my default browser and that editor with its button in the browser's status bar is always just one mouse click away.

But since I'm usually writing Java web applications that generate most of their HTML dynamically with whatever template technologies/frameworks for creating webpages happen to be used in that particular project, I'm usually using editor(plugin)s integrated in Eclipse.

For a bigger (not necessarily Java) web project, Eclipse would probably still be my first choice since it's free and stable and it very likely has everything I need either already integrated (syntax highlighting, auto completion, syntax/spell/tag context checks, cvs/svn, ..) or available as a plugin.
Well..I would use Eclipse and probably Seamonkey or Firefox with the "Webdeveloper" add-on for fine-tuning the layout.
 
  2009-06-11 12:45:07 AM
Whenever I load fark nowadays, it loads normally, and then stretches the entire page vertically about 30%. It does this on every page; not news, tabs, totalfark, comments, etc. but doesn't do it anywhere else on the internet. Is this happening to everyone? Did I change some stylesheet setting somewhere? I don't get it

Using WinXPSP3 FF3.0.10 w/noScript
 
  2009-06-11 12:54:33 AM
The Voice of Doom 2009-06-10 06:53:25 PM
thanks for the tip, i might have overlooked it in a search.. it seems a bit technical,
good, i'll learn new things trying to use it LoL
i'll try it on w7 rc...

Dreamweaver...
well, no, because its adobe...& 400 for something i use only rarely
i'm waiting for it to be outmoded by its competition.

i think there is/was a website that allows users to rent by the day, hi-price programs like pro-tools... maybe dw will be avail like that.
 
  2009-06-11 01:13:43 AM
Sim Tree: Using WinXPSP3 FF3.0.10 w/noScript

try disabling noscript (temporarily) first.
 
  2009-06-11 02:03:55 AM
Nope.

It looks like it's changing the font. It starts out in a regular font, and then changes to helvetica or something that takes up more space. This then stretches out all the images that happen to be in the same box as the text (for example, the totalfark symbol next to the names)
 
  2009-06-11 02:19:47 AM
I means nope as in "it's still doing it." :p
 
  2009-06-11 03:20:31 AM
JSTACAT
it seems a bit technical,

If you mean Eclipse: for editing (static) web sites it might be overkill since that's only a small part of what it's for.
Just try to ignore the 80% of the program related to (Java) programming that you won't need. ;)


For a quickstart just download the "Java EE" package since it will include everything but the kitchen sink - but that can be installed later, if you happen to need on.
Then create a "static web project" and within said project you create the HTML/CSS/Javascript/whateverYouNeed files.


The most important key combination when you're editing a file is Ctrl+Space:
this opens a list of stuff you're allowed to insert in the given context, e.g. if you're within an HTML tag it will list the possible attributes (and often: their possible values) that can be used in that tag and insert the one you select.
That really saves you a lot of typing and looking up stuff in the documentation of whatever it is you're creating.
 
  2009-06-11 09:49:21 AM
JSTACAT: Dreamweaver...
well, no, because its adobe...& 400 for something i use only rarely
i'm waiting for it to be outmoded by its competition.


Ah, well I didn't know you wanted to exclude Adobe products and those that cost money :-)

How about KompoZer? Open source software based on nVu which was based on Mozilla's software.

I used to use SlickEdit but it's more like Eclipse (well, it's a whole lot better but similar in that it's geared towards developing in other languages) - and it's not free.

Nowadays I use Quanta which is also open source - but it's Linux only and I'm assuming you're a Windows user.
 
  2009-06-11 10:35:13 AM
Benny_Hill 2009-06-11 09:49:21 AM
Nowadays I use Quanta which is also open source - but it's Linux only and I'm assuming you're a Windows user."

//actually, w7 has made Linux more attractive as an OS to do some jobs with, like websites. w7, out of box doesn't seem to have tools for web site creation [w7 should have some type of publisher built in]
w7 will definitely inspire & improve Linux.
the days of amateur websites are fading fast...


I'll definitely need Linux to experiment with, [such as Quanta] and Linux probably has 10x as many experimental programs available.

maybe Adobe will regain my confidence if they can go at least a year without fumbling security.
i would hate to make a website & get it hacked because Adobe isn't quite large enough to take on the whole internet, security wise.

the last year's adobe issues [and their laziness] were shocking to me since the whole internet depends on Adobe products.
that made me put website work on the shelf...
 
  2009-06-11 10:44:58 AM
The Voice of Doom 2009-06-11 03:20:31 AM
"The most important key combination when you're editing a file is Ctrl+Space:
this opens a list of stuff you're allowed to insert in the given context, e.g. if you're within an HTML tag it will list the possible attributes (and often: their possible values) that can be used in that tag and insert the one you select.
That really saves you a lot of typing and looking up stuff in the documentation of whatever it is you're creating."

// Thanks, thats a good tip.. i just acquired it, will install it soon. My publisher created sites need updating, they are stuck in the last century.
 
  2009-06-11 11:11:18 AM
Hey, audio people, I have sorta funny request.
My apartment was robbed. All electronics cleared out. I'm building a home security system. It's able to detect/send out an alert during power interruptions and has an infrared motion detector my boss let me take from work.
When tripped, it sends a text message with a picture of what it sees to me, my neighbor, and my landlord. I'd also like to add a sound for it to play through some speakers when it's set off. I was thinking something like:
Intimidating voice: "What the F*CK do you think you're doing?!? Get the F*CK out!"
*sound of shotgun chambering a round*
Voice:
"Hello, police? Someone's breaking into our place!"

If anyone with some audio skills wants to take a crack at making a sound file, and it's good enough to use, I'll sponsor you for TF
 
  2009-06-11 11:58:49 AM
JSTACAT: I'll definitely need Linux to experiment with...

If you're new to Linux I recommend Ubuntu. It has a large, very active community so you shouldn't have any trouble finding help if you need it.

JSTACAT: Linux probably has 10x as many experimental programs available.

Definitely. This can actually be a problem for people new to Linux. They go to find a text editor for example and find there are a gazillion of them available and are immediately overwhelmed with choices. Just part of the "growing pains" of learning a new OS. Ultimately it's a wonderful "problem" to have (having so many choices).

JSTACAT: the whole internet depends on Adobe products.

Apparently I use a different Internet...
 
  2009-06-11 12:27:44 PM
Sim Tree: It looks like it's changing the font. It starts out in a regular font, and then changes to helvetica or something that takes up more space.

Screenshot?

Sounds like a CSS problem. Got any other extensions running, like Greasemonkey or Adblock?
 
  2009-06-11 12:59:47 PM
Mike: Sim Tree: It looks like it's changing the font. It starts out in a regular font, and then changes to helvetica or something that takes up more space.

Screenshot?

Sounds like a CSS problem. Got any other extensions running, like Greasemonkey or Adblock?


It sounds like what happened to me when I zoomed out.
 
  2009-06-11 01:21:19 PM
Benny_Hill 2009-06-11 11:58:49 AM

JSTACAT: the whole internet depends on Adobe products.

Apparently I use a different Internet...""


// same here..
none of my friends [representing 90% of internet] are aware of an internet without flash and pdf... 0% of musicians...

when i suggest flash block & no script & i get -wtf??-
the internet illiteracy is awesome...
.. to -some- [gak!]

// i'm loading old giveaway boxen with w-7 rc & giving them around to friends.

creating addiction & feedback.
 
  2009-06-11 01:39:24 PM
try View -> Zoom -> Reset to make sure your font size isn't set wonky.
 
  2009-06-11 08:13:47 PM
Mike: try View -> Zoom -> Reset to make sure your font size isn't set wonky.

HAHAHAHA! That was it; thanks so much. It was annoying the frig out of me.

I, too, was looking for a stylesheets problem, so that was a good guess. I didn't figure it was zoomed. Doh.
 
  2009-06-12 12:43:10 AM
This Is Bold Text: Hey, audio people, I have sorta funny request.
My apartment was robbed. All electronics cleared out. I'm building a home security system. It's able to detect/send out an alert during power interruptions and has an infrared motion detector my boss let me take from work.
When tripped, it sends a text message with a picture of what it sees to me, my neighbor, and my landlord. I'd also like to add a sound for it to play through some speakers when it's set off. I was thinking something like:
Intimidating voice: "What the F*CK do you think you're doing?!? Get the F*CK out!"
*sound of shotgun chambering a round*
Voice: "Hello, police? Someone's breaking into our place!"

If anyone with some audio skills wants to take a crack at making a sound file, and it's good enough to use, I'll sponsor you for TF


You have email.
 
  2009-06-12 01:43:33 PM
TehNacho:
You have email.


beat me to it
 
  2009-06-12 06:13:36 PM
vudukungfu: TehNacho:
You have email.

beat me to it


You might have a better one. I don't have a pump shot gun, the closest thing that I have that makes an intimidating noise is an AK47. So I hooked up a cheap microphone to my machine and raked the charging handle. It sounds pretty good but someone with a more quiet computer and or an actual pump shotgun would probably make something better.

Not only that but for some reason all of the clips I make default at 10 seconds in length no matter when I stop recording and when I try to edit a sound I am told that not enough memory exists for the operation so, I'm kinda farked.

But if anyone ELSE wants to have a .wav file of an AK47 chambering a round they are welcome to it.
 
  2009-06-12 07:29:47 PM
I been coughing non stop for a week, so the voice is shot.
I do professional VO work, so when I'm good to go, I can record some whack stuff.

Hey, this is a good place to ask.
I got a DVD of an old movie I'm in that I had transferred from VHS, and want to upload it. But Don't want just anyone to see it.
I need a secure file host that can handle @ 45 minutes of terrible B movie madness that I can share with some pals who didn't get to see it.
ANy suggestions?
 
  2009-06-12 08:32:12 PM
vudukungfu: I been coughing non stop for a week, so the voice is shot.
I do professional VO work, so when I'm good to go, I can record some whack stuff.

Hey, this is a good place to ask.
I got a DVD of an old movie I'm in that I had transferred from VHS, and want to upload it. But Don't want just anyone to see it.
I need a secure file host that can handle @ 45 minutes of terrible B movie madness that I can share with some pals who didn't get to see it.
ANy suggestions?


RAR it with a password and then make a torrent out of it.
 
  2009-06-12 11:21:43 PM
vudukungfu: I been coughing non stop for a week, so the voice is shot.
I do professional VO work, so when I'm good to go, I can record some whack stuff.

Hey, this is a good place to ask.
I got a DVD of an old movie I'm in that I had transferred from VHS, and want to upload it. But Don't want just anyone to see it.
I need a secure file host that can handle @ 45 minutes of terrible B movie madness that I can share with some pals who didn't get to see it.
ANy suggestions?


How many friends? 1? 2? 20? 1,000? If more than 20 or so, Maddogjew 's idea is the way to go.
 
  2009-06-13 11:14:19 AM
Maddogjew
vudukungfuand want to upload it. But Don't want just anyone to see it.

RAR it with a password and then make a torrent out of it.


..upload to [mediafire|4shared|rapidshare|..]

A torrent has the disadvantage that
* torrents are more complicated to use, especially if people aren't used to them
* that someone with a full copy has to be online and seed it (lets say you want another one to see it a month later..)
* that with only few people the speed might be rather limited if they aren't all connected to the swarm at the same time and continue seeding (e.g. if the "swarm"repeatedly consists of just vudukungfu and one friend who happens to be downloading at that time)
 
  2009-06-13 10:59:29 PM
The Voice of Doom: ..upload to [mediafire|4shared|rapidshare|..]

A torrent has the disadvantage that
* torrents are more complicated to use, especially if people aren't used to them
* that someone with a full copy has to be online and seed it (lets say you want another one to see it a month later..)
* that with only few people the speed might be rather limited if they aren't all connected to the swarm at the same time and continue seeding (e.g. if the "swarm"repeatedly consists of just vudukungfu and one friend who happens to be downloading at that time)


All very valid points. Unless you are sharing to a large number of people, The Voice of Doom's idea is better.
 
  2009-06-14 01:57:03 AM
 
  2009-06-14 02:11:41 AM
FuturePastNow: sigh

Oh yeah, it's dead now.

i218.photobucket.com
 
  2009-06-14 02:52:45 AM
heh

Western Digital's drive diagnostic software gives it a green checkmark "Pass"
 
  2009-06-14 11:23:02 AM
FuturePastNow: Oh yeah, it's dead now.

Damn, that's a biatch. Will you be able to RMA it?
 
  2009-06-14 12:48:58 PM
Maddogjew: Damn, that's a biatch. Will you be able to RMA it?

It's three months old. They had better send me another.
 
  2009-06-16 03:36:53 PM
Mike,

Short 'n sharp: polite request to let the site go green, in support of the people in Iran.

Thanks.
 
  2009-06-17 01:57:07 AM
I worked on a machine with a Jaz drive today
 
  2009-06-17 09:06:10 AM
Ironically, I'm using LHA to unzip files today.
 
  2009-06-17 02:41:53 PM
Hey, does anyone have a good idea for a good quality video capture card for under $100? Thanks.
 
  2009-06-17 06:24:35 PM
NeverDrunk23: Hey, does anyone have a good idea for a good quality video capture card for under $100? Thanks.

Does it need to have a remote? Is it going to be HD or SD?
 
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