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  2009-05-27 06:08:50 PM
SonofPekar: Is anybody on right now?

Sure, go ahead
 
  2009-05-27 06:18:17 PM
Cool-

I am having issues with Comcast and torrents. I realize they are utilizing Sandvine and blocking seeding, but what I am experiencing is a little different.

If I fire up a torrent client, within about 3 minutes all of my internet network traffic stops. Anything in any tab or window won't load or reload.

I'm not a techie persay, but all of the info I've been able to dig up suggests that Comcast's throttling is aimed at P2P apps- but what I am facing is a total on/off for the internet if I use a torrent app.

Specifically I am using Transmission and Deluge (not sure if that matters)

I am really just trying to figure out what I am dealing with. Is this how their throttling normally functions?

Sorry for the long post, and thanks for responding-
 
  2009-05-27 06:23:11 PM
SonofPekar: Cool-

I am having issues with Comcast and torrents. I realize they are utilizing Sandvine and blocking seeding, but what I am experiencing is a little different.

If I fire up a torrent client, within about 3 minutes all of my internet network traffic stops. Anything in any tab or window won't load or reload.

I'm not a techie persay, but all of the info I've been able to dig up suggests that Comcast's throttling is aimed at P2P apps- but what I am facing is a total on/off for the internet if I use a torrent app.

Specifically I am using Transmission and Deluge (not sure if that matters)

I am really just trying to figure out what I am dealing with. Is this how their throttling normally functions?

Sorry for the long post, and thanks for responding-


No problem, I'm not familiar with those BT clients. Try to look in the options and see if you can find the enable obfuscation boxes and only except encrypted incoming torrents. I use Vuze and have had pretty good luck from being throttled. Sorry I couldn't be more help. If you decide to use the same BT client that I do, email me (it's in my profile) and I will send you screen shots on how to get past the traffic shaping.
 
  2009-05-27 06:27:34 PM
oh, and no, that is not normal throttling. Your port 80 traffic should not be affected.
 
  2009-05-27 06:52:13 PM
Thanks again for responding. I will have to check out your torrent app.

I should clarify- when my network traffic shuts off, it goes down for about two to three minutes, then comes back on. Then, if I still have the torrent client going, it's about another three minutes untill it shuts down again.

It's a somewhat effective deterrent I guess, as it forces the program to re-seek uploaders and downloaders each time the connection is restored. But... if I decide to start my torrent client before I go to bed, I wake up and all of my torrents are completed. Kind of like in the dial-up days when you didn't want a phone call to interrupt your Napster download.

I am really stumped with this- I have been searching for resolutions, but it's kind of hard when you can't effectively identify or name the problem:)

Again, thanks for responding-
 
  2009-05-27 06:59:29 PM
SonofPekar: Thanks again for responding. I will have to check out your torrent app.

Good luck, that just sounds kinda weird. Email me if you need any more help.
 
  2009-05-27 08:09:10 PM
Any chance it's not Comcast, but Windows' limit of 10 half-open TCP connections? If the torrent client's got more than 10 pending-but-not-yet-connected connections going at any given point, that would kill port 80 off until one of them gives up...

If you're on Vista, SP2 should remove that limit.
 
  2009-05-27 08:17:46 PM
Maddogjew: oh, and no, that is not normal throttling. Your port 80 traffic should not be affected.

Too many connections open?
 
  2009-05-27 08:53:56 PM
Don't use Windows much at home.

Differing flavors of *nix depending on the machine. I haven't really delved into tables, etc.

Again, this is more of an annoyance than anything else. I can still torrent anything as long as the seed/load maintins at night... I just want to know what Comcast is doing.

I am sure others in my region are having the same issues.
 
  2009-05-27 11:52:42 PM
SonofPekar
I should clarify- when my network traffic shuts off, it goes down for about two to three minutes, then comes back on

Define "network traffic shuts off" .
Could it be that your router/modem or whatever crashes and it takes some time until it reboots itself (by magic..) and gets a new IP and whatnot?

My WRT54G could be a bit touchy regarding heavy P2P traffic (BT and whatever those Asian P2P-TV-apps use); though in my case it didn't work again by itself after 2-3 minutes, I had to walk over and pull the plug to reboot it.
 
  2009-05-28 12:48:57 AM
It might be a limit of the router or the modem.

Try cutting the BT client down to 20 or so max global connections, 1-2 active torrents at a time, and limit the bandwidth it can use to 2/3 of your download and upload.
 
  2009-05-28 02:03:33 AM
Mike: Any chance it's not Comcast, but Windows' limit of 10 half-open TCP connections? If the torrent client's got more than 10 pending-but-not-yet-connected connections going at any given point, that would kill port 80 off until one of them gives up...

If you're on Vista, SP2 should remove that limit.


I would take Mike's advice over mine. He has forgotten more than I knew in the first place.
 
  2009-05-28 04:37:13 AM
Question for IT types;

I got an email from a potential employer from Craigslist... I made my email anonymous during the post. The body of the email seems legit enough, but when I hit "reply" the reply to address does not match the address that the email came from. It tries to send itself to (names are an example but name gender and format are the same) a J­ohnDoe[nospam-﹫-backwards]liam*com (no typo, mail.com) but in the "from" line it shows as originating from Ja­n­e*do­e[nospam-﹫-backwards]l­i­am­g*c­om (resplendent with .). The person in the subject line is a third different name entirely.

Would anyone else have their bullshiat meter go off?
 
  2009-05-28 09:40:37 AM
Maybe. If you can check to see if you're maybe emailing an HR person, and the subject person is a manager, or vice-versa, that could make sense.
I use four different email accounts, but I send through only one. On the other hand, I only use my mail.com account for shady stuff.
 
  2009-05-28 05:05:37 PM
If they're a potential employer, I'd call them on the phone, easier to sniff out the bullshiat that way. :)

2-3 minutes is about normal for a crashed modem/router to reboot itself... some are faster, sure, but yeah it could be that instead (I think he later said he was on Linux, so the XP/Vista TCP session limit caps wouldn't apply). Torrents are particularly rough on routers, especially if there's NAT involved, so it's not unheard of for them to just up and panic.
 
  2009-05-28 06:09:22 PM
Mike: Torrents are particularly rough on routers, especially if there's NAT involved, so it's not unheard of for them to just up and panic.

I used to have an old 200MHz PC running as an IPCop firewall/router, and bittorrent crapped it out every time.
 
  2009-05-28 11:21:34 PM
Maddogjew, FuturePastNow, The Voice of Doom,

Just wanted to say thanks for the help. I am still hashing this out; I think you guys are on the right track with it being a router issue vs. a comcast issue.

Thanks again for helping out a fellow Farker.

-Love this site-
 
  2009-05-28 11:44:54 PM
Mike too-
 
  2009-05-29 01:34:25 AM
I tend to assume it's not the ISP's fault because, well, I spent 9 years as sysadmin/netadmin at two ISP's and it often wasn't :) Sometimes, yeah, I fat-fingered things or tripped over messy ethernet cabling or blew up software upgrades, and, ok, so not much has changed at this job :)

(except for a while when the 2nd ISP was shipping really shiatball DSL modems+routers to customers, which would fall over dead during a simple apachebench run, much less heavy torrent traffic... so yeah I've seen it happen, and they did later swap those modems out for Linux-based ones)
 
  2009-05-29 12:17:10 PM
there is a small insect crawling around on the inside of my LCD monitor. it is slowly driving me crazy.
 
  2009-05-29 01:16:34 PM
Man On Fire: there is a small insect crawling around on the inside of my LCD monitor. it is slowly driving me crazy.

i218.photobucket.com

(looks better on a forum with a white background and no border)
 
  2009-05-29 05:40:09 PM
thaat's what It was like, only across my entire 19" LCD this morning. I tried playing games when I had some spare time. couldn't do it. kept shooting at the bug.

he seems to be gone now. I hope he fried himself on the inverter.
 
  2009-05-29 07:30:04 PM
i just finished putting w7 rc on a 800 mhz, 82815 intel, with 360 mb ram.
it works better than the os that it came with, and is about the same as a well tweaked xp.
ubuntu would choke on this machine...
some ancient drivers are a bit of a chore.
msft, i'm proud of u,
now, about the firewall...
 
  2009-05-30 12:40:12 AM
FuturePastNow: [i218.photobucket.com image 100x75]

(looks better on a forum with a white background and no border)


I need a 1440x900 version of that, stat.
 
  2009-05-30 07:57:11 AM
Man On Fire: there is a small insect crawling around on the inside of my LCD monitor. it is slowly driving me crazy.

You think you've got problems...

Monitor cleaner (new window)
 
  2009-05-30 05:40:57 PM
JSTACAT: i just finished putting w7 rc on a 800 mhz, 82815 intel, with 360 mb ram.

Below are the Windows 7 minimum requirements:

* 1GHz processor (32- or 64-bit)
* 1GB of main memory
* 16GB of available disk space
* Support for DX9 graphics with 128MB of memory (for the Aero interface)
* A DVD-R/W drive
 
  2009-05-30 08:55:15 PM
JSTACAT: i just finished putting w7 rc on a 800 mhz, 82815 intel, with 360 mb ram.

Below are the Windows 7 minimum requirements:

* 1GHz processor (32- or 64-bit)
* 1GB of main memory
* 16GB of available disk space
* Support for DX9 graphics with 128MB of memory (for the Aero interface)
* A DVD-R/W drive

// i know, but this mach works fine anyway.. i was amazed..360 of ram & 9 gb partition on very old 20-gb drive, its more stable and faster than w2k. boot time is understandably slow.

whereas with vista, if it was installed on a min specks machine...
wait, it wouldnt even install [pre sp1]
first impression, last impression
LoL
its the difference between # 1 & # 2
 
  2009-06-01 08:50:30 AM
JSTACAT: JSTACAT: i just finished putting w7 rc on a 800 mhz, 82815 intel, with 360 mb ram.

Below are the Windows 7 minimum requirements:

* 1GHz processor (32- or 64-bit)
* 1GB of main memory
* 16GB of available disk space
* Support for DX9 graphics with 128MB of memory (for the Aero interface)
* A DVD-R/W drive

// i know, but this mach works fine anyway.. i was amazed..360 of ram & 9 gb partition on very old 20-gb drive, its more stable and faster than w2k. boot time is understandably slow.

whereas with vista, if it was installed on a min specks machine...
wait, it wouldnt even install [pre sp1]
first impression, last impression
LoL
its the difference between # 1 & # 2


I've actually managed to install w7 (albeit a slimmed down install to make it actually fit) on my EEEpc 701. It ran well, although I did have some sort of VGA corruption (guess it didn't like the XP video adapter :/ ) I was pleasently surprised.

900mhz Pentium M
2 Gig DDR2 RAM
4 Gig onboard ssd (contrary to what you might think, that onboard ssd isn't particularly zippy)
touch screen (woo)

/Running Easy Peasy on it atm.
//Its had more OSes on it then I have fingers.
 
  2009-06-01 10:05:57 AM
Dimmy 2009-06-01 08:50:30 AM
4 Gig onboard ssd (contrary to what you might think, that onboard ssd isn't particularly zippy)"

// ive noticed that all the older hdd that i put w7 on seem throttled to 30mbps i/o [?]
that may be due to lack of 48bit addressing in the hdd.. or is it a os feature [QoS is off]
next experiment will be with a more modern hdd

// i wonder if its possible to wipe or clean an ssd when it quits writing [ but still reads] to sectors as it ages,

is the info now frozen into those sectors, never to be erased?
if thats the case, they need to be cheap enough to destroy regularly [50 bucks max]

the first couple years worth of netbooks seem experimental, with lots of older models winding up in a drawer with the old cellphones & ipods


=================================================
"/Running Easy Peasy on it atm.
//Its had more OSes on it then I have fingers."

--i feel sorry for those who only have one or 2 fingers....
 
  2009-06-01 02:14:08 PM
The EEE PC's SSD uses the same type of slow flash as USB thumb drives. It's really cheap.
 
  2009-06-01 08:17:28 PM
Yeah, which is I'm contemplating an EEE 1000HE and possibly swap out the HD with a sata SSD.
 
  2009-06-01 09:56:57 PM
If I was going to buy a netbook now I'd get a Wind
 
  2009-06-02 05:55:37 PM
No_47: If I was going to buy a netbook now I'd get a Wind

i've been going back and forth between the Wind and the Dell Mini10.

I couldn't take the keyboard layout of the smaller EeePCs, but the 1000HE isn't too bad. but the Wind has good OSX support, so that's been pulling me towards it a little.
the Dell is just cheap and light, with all the same innards as all the others, and a nice keyboard. plus, the newest ones have higher def screens (1366x768) over the standard netbooks (1024x600).
 
  2009-06-02 07:50:02 PM
I got the HP Mini 1000 because I hated the keyboard on everything else. Since then, Dell and Asus have come around to using saner keyboards...
 
  2009-06-02 11:41:08 PM
Threadjack: Since getting an e8500 and a GTX 260 last year, I haven't yet met a game I couldn't max out, and that includes a couple of new titles. Also haven't overclocked either chunk of hardware one tiny bit.

For the first time in abut 7-10 years, my familiarity with (budget) cutting edge hardware has seriously slipped, and that's a really good thing, at least for my wallet. A couple times I've ripped everything apart and redone all the thermal paste and shiat just for tinkering's sake, but it wasn't really necessary.

Hurray me.
 
  2009-06-02 11:56:28 PM
Just two quick questions:

-- When did the Y2K bug first come into the pubic consciousness? When was it first called the "Millennium Bug"?

-- Has anyone else absent-mindedly pondered taking the "Wonderful Guy" song from Fallout 3 and South Pacific ("No more a smart little girl with no heart, I have found me a wonderful guy") and somehow arranging for a woman to hear it shortly after a date with her, so she'll think it's some sort of sign?
 
  2009-06-03 08:10:22 PM
N. S. Radieaux: Just two quick questions:

-- When did the Y2K bug first come into the pubic consciousness? When was it first called the "Millennium Bug"?

-- Has anyone else absent-mindedly pondered taking the "Wonderful Guy" song from Fallout 3 and South Pacific ("No more a smart little girl with no heart, I have found me a wonderful guy") and somehow arranging for a woman to hear it shortly after a date with her, so she'll think it's some sort of sign?


OK now, I was at PSU in 19+80
/with an onion on my belt, I might add,
and the dean of CompSci said if anyone could figure out a way to end the panic and presence of the Y=2k , aka , the millenium bug, figure out a solution, they would receive a degree on the spot.
I pondered this for an entire week and eventually came up with a solution and the dean said,
"that will never work"
he's an unemployed asshole now, I would hope, but you can fake intelligene and still pull down a paty check, so he probablly is retired and pulling down a paycheck, asshole that he is.
As I had a solution.
Mind you , thi was 1980.
 
  2009-06-04 05:18:52 AM
I think N. S. Radieaux needs to take some Rad Away
 
  2009-06-04 10:53:18 AM
Anyone know how to decrease download speed?

Im testing a flash app I made (167k) and I have cable, but I want to make sure the loader is displaying the percents (it goes by way too fast for me to be sure). Short of calling grandma and having her fire up her dial up, is there a setting in XP to cap the download speed of my connection?
 
  2009-06-04 01:50:38 PM
nosajghoul

"Let me Google that for you.."
There seem to be tools for that; first hit:
http://bandwidthcontroller.com/trafficShaperXp.html


Otherwise:
I'm not sure how well it would "work" on Cable and with just 167kb, but having ADSL with a limited upstream, you can really reduce your download speed if you saturate your upstrean by scp-ing or uploading a big file to another server.
 
  2009-06-04 03:10:27 PM
vudukungfu: Thanks

N. S. Radieaux: pubic consciousness

>_<
 
  2009-06-04 11:30:49 PM
So, what are the best uses for Hamachi (the VPN, not the fish) that I don't know anything about?

Could I use it to remote into my mothers computer so that I can actually help her when she calls and asks why her computer is not working right (assuming it is running well enough for Hamachi)?
 
  2009-06-05 09:05:38 AM
I'm the admin of a phpBB forum (recently upgraded to phpBB3 from phpbb2).
A week or so ago I got an interesting email (looks like a response to the account activation mail):


Subject: Delete My Account! I Am A Forum Spammer! Re: Welcome to "name of the forum"

This account was solely created to automatically register and then
spam as many forums as possible. The account created using this email
address should be deleted immediately.

Thank you.

Random Digilante


WTF?
Anyone ever got something similar?

Random ideas what that could be about:

* a "white hat bot" telling me that the captcha etc can be beaten (duh!)
* someone trying his new bot who is nice enough to tell the admin where to find the garbage (account) that the bot left
* getting an admin to open that user's profile to exploit some profile field XSS-vulnerability (not that it seems to be the case here; there isn't even an account with the sender's mail address - why may it "difficult" to find if you want people clicking the profile?)
* someone doing a research project how attentive admins are?
* preparing to do what it says: going "hey, I told you so" and then start flooding at some point in the future
* someone simply likes to confuse people
* ???

Around that day there was one new spam account created - though with a different gmail address in its profile than the one that was used for the above email - but no spam has been posted so far.
The account doesn't even have a website linked in the profile, which is what phpBB2 spam accounts usually had to increase clicks or pagerank.
 
SGF
  2009-06-05 04:38:49 PM
The nature of this question suggests how far out of my element I am in the world of geekdom--

My iMac keeps losing its airport connection and timing out. My band-aid solution has been to switch the airport off, then turn the airport back on, then refresh my browser. When this problem occurs, the signal strength icon indicates that there is still a strong connection, but the error message when it times out tells me to check and make sure I'm connected to the intarwab.

Our wireless router is in the room next door, but this problem occurred when the Mac and router were right beside each other.

Anybody know why this is happening and if there's easy fix?

If this was caused by donkey porn, then it must have been infected at the factory
 
  2009-06-05 06:13:04 PM
SGF
When this problem occurs, the signal strength icon indicates that there is still a strong connection, but the error message when it times out tells me to check and make sure I'm connected to the intarwab.

There are two connections that could be down:
Mac --- router and
router --- Internet

Maybe it's just the second one that's down?
Can you still reach the router itself?

Usually those routers can be configured to keep the connection to the internet alive or kill it if it has been sitting around idle for X minutes (useful if you pay for your connection by the minute, for example).
There probably are options like those in your router's configuration:
"[] dial on demand"
"[] keep connection alive"
"separate connection after [____] minutes"
 
  2009-06-05 07:51:21 PM
SGF: The nature of this question suggests how far out of my element I am in the world of geekdom--

My iMac keeps losing its airport connection and timing out. My band-aid solution has been to switch the airport off, then turn the airport back on, then refresh my browser. When this problem occurs, the signal strength icon indicates that there is still a strong connection, but the error message when it times out tells me to check and make sure I'm connected to the intarwab.

Our wireless router is in the room next door, but this problem occurred when the Mac and router were right beside each other.

Anybody know why this is happening and if there's easy fix?

If this was caused by donkey porn, then it must have been infected at the factory


Do you have any other machines that connect to this router? Are they having similar issues? I know in windows you can set the wireless NIC (equivalent of your airport) to turn off as a power save measure. Maybe there is something similar for MACs? Also, does it happen while in the middle of browsing, or only if you walk away from the machine for a few minutes?
 
SGF
  2009-06-06 01:29:08 AM
Mrs. Goat-farker has a Dell Lattitude (XP) running wirelessly off the same router without any trouble.

The mac problem happens in the middle of browsing, sometimes mid-transmission. I'll poke around a bit more tomorrow.

Thanks for the input
 
  2009-06-07 11:28:56 AM
N. S. Radieaux: pubic consciousness

>_<


Oh, About the time FOX became a network.
 
  2009-06-07 01:07:38 PM
I have a question that I hope someone here can help me with. I have never created a website before but I created one for my business. I created it from scratch and did not use any sort of template at all. But here is my issue. When I look at my site with Internet Explorer, the site looks exactly how I want it to look. However, when I look at my site with Firefox, there are a bunch of things that look weird such as pictures overlapping text, etc. Does anyone know how to fix that so that my website looks the same with FF as it does with IE? Thanks so much in advance for your help.

Regards,
Jeff
 
  2009-06-07 06:18:25 PM
GoofingOff: Thanks so much in advance for your help.

Not my area of expertise. Now you may ask "why bother to comment?" Well, I just wanted you to know that somebody read and acknowledged your issue. I will google it and if I find anything I'll tell you.
 
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