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  2009-02-05 01:07:55 PM  
Quick question. What regulations/lack of regulations led to japan getting 1gig a month for 30 euros?
 
  2009-02-05 02:56:59 PM  
Thrashersk: Quick question. What regulations/lack of regulations led to japan getting 1gig a month for 30 euros?

Its not so much regulations, or lack thereof, but more that Japan has a population density of 337/km2 and the US has a population density of 31/km2. You see the problem? If you have more subscribers in a geographical area it is more lucrative to bring high speed data services to them.
 
  2009-02-05 03:59:33 PM  
oh cool

windows 7 burns iso files ootb
 
  2009-02-05 06:34:28 PM  
strafe: Alright shiat, this one again. K,

Well what was happening was that it just would not shut off and it wouldn't go into safe mode. So I put it in hibernate and left it to drain the battery and then when I went to start it again it was fine.

There were no usb's or other devices plugged in or disks in the optical drive or anything like that. I had not installed any new software or downloaded any updates during that session. It was apparently just one of those things. gah

Meanwhile the system has crashed several times with an assortment of BSODs. I farking hate Vista. I turned off all the Aero and UAC "features" and CS4 still runs slow with 3G RAM. I am trying to figure out if I can put XP on it because I am about ready to crack the damn thing open and feast on the goo inside.
 
  2009-02-05 09:14:07 PM  
Hi y'all! I'm having a bit of trouble with my tv tuner card. It is a Hauppage PVR-150 and the device drivers won't start. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers and reseated the card on the mobo to no avail. I've just recently upgraded my machine and finally got around to putting the TV card in my new build. I'm running Windows 7, 64 bit on a I7 920 with 12 gigs of ram. The card worked just fine on my old system which was a 6000+ with 2 gigs of ram. I've looked on Hauppage's site and have had no luck. I even installed (on a different HD) Vista Ulitmate 64 (what I was running on my old machine when the card worked) and still have no luck. Any ideas, work around etc... that you all could come up with would be helpful. Thanks!

/As a by the way, has anyone had luck with getting GTA IV to run in Sli mode? It keeps crashing on me and it kinda sucks to only be using one 280 on it.
 
  2009-02-05 09:30:58 PM  
I did put the card in another machine to test it and it worked fine.
 
  2009-02-05 09:45:45 PM  
The PVR-150 isn't listed as being vista (and therefore Win 7) compatible on the Hauppage site, so I'm wondering where you're getting your drivers

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_pvr150.html
 
  2009-02-05 09:54:49 PM  
Oh I take that back

Microsoft Windows "Vista" support

WinTV-PVR-150 and WinTV-PVR-500 driver for Vista is now included in CD version 2.7 or later (see above). Support is also available from the Vista installation CD though the WinTV-PVR-150/500 "in box" driver


have you downloaded those drivers?
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/support/support_pvr150.html
 
  2009-02-05 10:32:19 PM  
Maddogjew: ...12 gigs of ram...

Sweet FSM, what the hell do you do with your computer that you need that much RAM?

Sorry I have nothing helpful to add with regards to your question. I have a PVR350 but it's in a MythTV box rather than a Windows machine. Great card though, had it for years and no complaints.
 
  2009-02-05 10:47:23 PM  
No_47: Oh I take that back

Microsoft Windows "Vista" support

WinTV-PVR-150 and WinTV-PVR-500 driver for Vista is now included in CD version 2.7 or later (see above). Support is also available from the Vista installation CD though the WinTV-PVR-150/500 "in box" driver

have you downloaded those drivers?
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/support/support_pvr150.html


Sure have, thanks for looking for me though. I don't want to have to buy another tuner card.

Benny_Hill: Sweet FSM, what the hell do you do with your computer that you need that much RAM?

Need it? well, I suppose I don't really need it. The price was good though and so I figured I might as well. It's all a tax write off for school, so why not get something nice?
 
  2009-02-05 10:52:32 PM  
Maddogjew: it kinda sucks to only be using one 280 on it.

It does? I was mildly interested in that game. Damn.
 
  2009-02-05 11:03:51 PM  
gayb: It does? I was mildly interested in that game. Damn.

The game is really good, it is just that it has ridiculous system requirements. I just want to run in SLI because, well, I paid for the damn cards and it makes me feel like I have been ripped off if I can't use them both. The game is worth buying, but only if you have a triple core cpu and at least an 8800GT.
 
  2009-02-05 11:09:31 PM  
I seem to have acquired some crappy screws that are a little to small... enough to grab in and twist endless, and firmly enough to be difficult to unscrew. I really want to make sure my hard drive doesn't go anywhere. Any tricks for removing them and trying with new ones?

Kinda limited to normal household tools here, not computer tools.
 
  2009-02-05 11:15:40 PM  
geekybroad: I seem to have acquired some crappy screws that are a little to small... enough to grab in and twist endless, and firmly enough to be difficult to unscrew. I really want to make sure my hard drive doesn't go anywhere. Any tricks for removing them and trying with new ones?

Kinda limited to normal household tools here, not computer tools.


See if you can wedge a razor blade under the head of the screw, while doing that, turn the screw and pry up on the head of it at the same time. If you don't have a razor blade handy, you might be able to use a piece of dental floss the same way. Just slip it under the head of the screw and pull up on it while you are loosing the screw at the same time. Hope that helps.
 
  2009-02-05 11:28:26 PM  
Have no blades that seem to be working, thanks for the floss idea!
 
  2009-02-05 11:36:56 PM  
geekybroad
I seem to have acquired some crappy screws that are a little to small... enough to grab in and twist endless, and firmly enough to be difficult to unscrew


If I understand your problem correctly, you might have success with using scissors (or maybe nail clippers) as a wedge-pliers-combination to lift the screw out of its hole while loosing it
.
Worked for me when I had trouble with a CD drive's screws.

More or less the same principle as Maddogjew's, but different household tools.
 
  2009-02-05 11:37:24 PM  
geekybroad: Have no blades that seem to be working, thanks for the floss idea!

No problem. I have had the screw problem many times myself. The screw problem I hate the most is when the stand offs under the mobo become loose and spin when you try to take the mounting screws out of the mobo. That always drives me bug shiat. I've started putting loc-tite on stand offs when I build a machine now.

/Good luck with getting your MCSE and CCNA.
 
  2009-02-05 11:43:03 PM  
A thin keyring knife or pocket knife (MacGyver!) or a fruit/vegetable knife might also work, though they lack the pliers option that scissors so conveniently provide.
 
  2009-02-05 11:53:36 PM  
Maddogjew: The game is worth buying, but only if you have a triple core cpu and at least an 8800GT.

mmm, yes. Someday. Have a 260, but am stuck in an AM2 rut, goddamn it.
 
  2009-02-06 12:03:20 AM  
gayb: mmm, yes. Someday. Have a 260, but am stuck in an AM2 rut, goddamn it.

The new Phenom II's are a pretty good bang for the buck if you have an AM2+ board already. You can pick up the 920 for under $200. I built one for a buddy last week and it plays the GTA IV very well. If you don't have an AM2+ board you van pick one up for under $70. If you use a Micro ATX form factor, may I recommend the Asus M3A78-CM. It ships from New Egg with the latest bios with no flashing required for it to see and use the new Phenom II.
 
  2009-02-06 12:22:16 AM  
Random idea: if it's a PCI card instead of PCI-E, try backing down to 4 GB of memory and see if the Hauppauge works then. I don't think PCI cards can do DMA outside of the first 32 bits of address space, and unless there's a 64-bit driver that does bounce buffering...
 
  2009-02-06 12:22:51 AM  
Maddogjew: If you use a Micro ATX form factor, may I recommend the Asus M3A78-CM. It ships from New Egg with the latest bios with no flashing required for it to see and use the new Phenom II.

Don't tempt me. What does the plus sign mean? Mine is just an am2. Would it take a phenom II with a bios update maybe?
 
  2009-02-06 01:21:22 AM  
Mike: Random idea: if it's a PCI card instead of PCI-E, try backing down to 4 GB of memory and see if the Hauppauge works then. I don't think PCI cards can do DMA outside of the first 32 bits of address space, and unless there's a 64-bit driver that does bounce buffering...

Ding ding ding! That worked! Damn, it means I have to buy a new card though. I'm not giving up 2/3rds of my ram just to use the damn thing. Thanks!

gayb: Don't tempt me. What does the plus sign mean? Mine is just an am2. Would it take a phenom II with a bios update maybe?

What motherboard do you have? I'll look it up and see if you can upgrade to a new cpu. You may get lucky depending on what chipset you have. Right now newegg has some of the older Phenom Quads for under $150. I would spend the extra $39 and get a Phenom II over the original Phenom, it has much better performance. Here is the Wiki article on the AM2+ (new window).

Here is a price break down for a new CPU, Mobo and RAM.

ASUS M3A78-CM AM2+/AM2 AMD 780V Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131330
$72.99
AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDX920XCGIBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103472
$189.00
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Item #: N82E16835100007
$5.99
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835185125
$19.99
VANTEC TF9225 92mm Case Fan - Retail
Item #: N82E16811999617
$7.49
2x- G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231241
$95.98($47.99 ea)
Subtotal $391.44
Tax $0.00
UPS Ground $18.96
Order Total $410.40

Your shipping cost will vary, That is from the upgrade I did for a friend last week. You won't need 8 gigs of ram or the third party heat sink or thermal grease or the case fan. I stuck all of the above (along with a 260) into a old Compag micro atx case. I thought for a moment I might need a shoehorn. I did get the Phenom II 920 clocked up at 3.6 gigs on air ( stable, prime 95 on all 4 cores for 48 hours straight) though with a loaded temp of 42c. None too shabby, if I say so myself.
 
  2009-02-06 01:28:02 AM  
Oh, and if that is above your budget, tell me what you have to work with money-wise and maybe I can find a cheaper alternative that will work for you. I hope all of this helps!
 
  2009-02-06 01:46:27 AM  
Maddogjew: Oh, and if that is above your budget, tell me what you have to work with money-wise and maybe I can find a cheaper alternative that will work for you. I hope all of this helps!

It's at my budget limit, really. I haven't a need for a mini ATX sized board, but less than $200 is preferred for a cpu. Was looking at E8600s weeks ago, but it's pretty expensive and a matching MB would be over $100. Especially for SLI--haven't got two cards now, but want to have that option.

Right now I've got a 6000+ (runs hot, OCing is utterly impossible on air) on an Asus M2N-32-SLI. I'm not sure there's anything out there that was fit on my board and give me way better performance.

Thanks for looking around.
 
  2009-02-06 08:09:33 AM  
gayb: Right now I've got a 6000+ (runs hot, OCing is utterly impossible on air) on an Asus M2N-32-SLI. I'm not sure there's anything out there that was fit on my board and give me way better performance.

Nope, you are maxed out on that board now cpu wise. Unless you have the M2N32-SLI Premium VISTA Edition. If you have that version of the board, you can drop a triple or quad core phenom in it. (with the latest bios update of course. Of course if you can buy piece by piece you don't have to get everything at once.

Good luck

// you can play GTA IV on your current setup, you just have to turn some of the eye candy off and it will play ok
 
  2009-02-06 08:31:09 AM  
quickdraw: strafe: Alright shiat, this one again. K,

Well what was happening was that it just would not shut off and it wouldn't go into safe mode. So I put it in hibernate and left it to drain the battery and then when I went to start it again it was fine.

There were no usb's or other devices plugged in or disks in the optical drive or anything like that. I had not installed any new software or downloaded any updates during that session. It was apparently just one of those things. gah

Meanwhile the system has crashed several times with an assortment of BSODs. I farking hate Vista. I turned off all the Aero and UAC "features" and CS4 still runs slow with 3G RAM. I am trying to figure out if I can put XP on it because I am about ready to crack the damn thing open and feast on the goo inside.


Even though Vista is a flaming pile of dog crap it should run fine on 3 gigs. Running on 2 here right now fine. Somethin's wrong. Don't know what exactly though.

That's the third time I've seen something similar on a tablet. The hotfix fixed one, a clean install of Vista fixed the other, but I don't really know.

If you can keep it running long enough you may want to do a memory test with Vista's memory diagnostic program. Just type memory in the Start Menu search bar.

Other than that I bet it's a bad hardware driver that needs updated like a USB driver or wireless driver or something that got broken from a software install/uninstall. Anyway, A clean install of Windows and maybe a BIOS update would fix it right up as long as hardware isn't actually broken.
 
  2009-02-06 10:53:12 AM  
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  2009-02-07 11:27:02 AM  
gayb: Was looking at E8600s weeks ago, but it's pretty expensive and a matching MB would be over $100.

E8600 is high cost-to-performance. Look at the E8400 instead. And good P43 motherboards are ~$80.
 
  2009-02-08 12:04:50 PM  
FuturePastNow: E8600 is high cost-to-performance. Look at the E8400 instead. And good P43 motherboards are ~$80.

It's got to be better than the 6000 I've got now.
 
  2009-02-08 01:11:13 PM  
AesopRock_00: AesopRock_00: Mike: Find another of whatever heatsink/fan fits that case, and then just buy the cpu.

wouldn't he have to reinstall the OS (or at least manually update the HAL)?

i guess not. maybe i should have looked into my own thoughts before i post.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309283

"On Windows XP and later versions, the ACPI Uniprocessor HAL and the MPS Uniprocessor HAL recognize the existence of more than one processor and report the MP ID. Plug and Play detects that the computer devnode's hardware ID list has changed and moves the devnode back through the "found new hardware" detection process. Therefore, when you add a second processor, the MP files (HAL and kernels) are automatically installed, and you do not have to manually update the driver in Device Manager."


I just installed it and everything is working just fine!

Now if only there was a way for a 32 bit OS to recognize more than 4gb of ram!
 
  2009-02-08 02:59:25 PM  
strafe: Anyway, A clean install of Windows and maybe a BIOS update would fix it right up as long as hardware isn't actually broken.

Thank you I will try your helpful suggestions.

It appears, at this point, to be completely random in its crashes. Just today it took a dive while I was using CS4. I thought maybe I should update CS4 but then changed my mind because apparently the updates are worse ^ than the occasional crashes they are meant to fix.

I'll do a clean reinstall of Vista and see if that cures what ails it.
 
  2009-02-08 08:33:46 PM  
what do the BSOD's actually say? Might give a hint as to what the problem is, or at least narrow it down to hardware vs software. If it really is random it may be hardware (bad fan most likely)

I'm kinda in hardware troubleshooting mode lately, between beating on a VDSL DSLAM / modem pair that wouldn't keep reliable sync over a 2 foot pair of copper, a server hard drive that keeps timing out, and an IP KVM switch that didn't want to present its keyboard to the host... I think I have the last two problems figured out at least...
 
  2009-02-09 07:19:57 PM  
Dumb question, but one I can't imagine askin' anywhere else...

I saw a SATA to Compact flash adapter the other today.

It's my understanding that a RAID array can be set up so that a small and very fast drive can be used for applications and a larger drive for storage... well, would a compact flash drive with an OS allow for a substantially faster operation given that there are no longer any moving parts to wait for? Do you think there would be clear speed advantages compared to a SATA mounted 7200 RPM drive? Would there be any worries as to the service life of the card because of the constant use?

SATA-Compact Flash Adaptor (new window)
 
  2009-02-09 08:18:21 PM  
I'm bad at finding accurate release dates when it comes to video cards, does anyone know reliable sites about computer hardware and release dates?

I'm curious about the next batch of graphic cards. I have my eye on a HD 4870 1GB and I thought ATI was going to lower the prices on all their cards in January to combat Nvidia's release of the GTX 295, but they have yet to break below $200.

I try to use my Google-fu but I end up in sketchy forums where everyone "works in the industry."

I would appreciate any help.
 
  2009-02-09 11:52:20 PM  
TehNacho: It's my understanding that a RAID array can be set up so that a small and very fast drive can be used for applications and a larger drive for storage... well, would a compact flash drive with an OS allow for a substantially faster operation given that there are no longer any moving parts to wait for? Do you think there would be clear speed advantages compared to a SATA mounted 7200 RPM drive? Would there be any worries as to the service life of the card because of the constant use?

The fastest speed I've heard of from a CF card is about 30 meg/second. You would do much better to just get a sata drive instead. even if you RAID 0, you are not going to get any kind of comparable speed from a cf drive compared to a standard sata drive. I hope that helps.
 
  2009-02-09 11:59:01 PM  
TehNacho: Dumb question, but one I can't imagine askin' anywhere else...

I saw a SATA to Compact flash adapter the other today.

It's my understanding that a RAID array can be set up so that a small and very fast drive can be used for applications and a larger drive for storage... well, would a compact flash drive with an OS allow for a substantially faster operation given that there are no longer any moving parts to wait for? Do you think there would be clear speed advantages compared to a SATA mounted 7200 RPM drive? Would there be any worries as to the service life of the card because of the constant use?

SATA-Compact Flash Adaptor (new window)


CompactFlash is sloooow
 
  2009-02-10 12:08:47 AM  
Most CompactFlash cards do their own wear leveling to try to spread the writes out across the card (basically, remaps sectors on the fly transparently)... it's not perfect so it still kinda matters which filesystem you put on it.

They also look like PATA disks electrically -- that's why they have so many pins, and why the CF-to-PATA adapters don't have any electronics on 'em. (CF-to-SATA is just a PATA to SATA bridge) That's why CF is so much faster than SD...

But... flash chips are slower than dram chips... and also slower than disks in sequential transfers, unless the disk is doing a ton of seeks where obviously CF has zero seek time. Think like 40 MBytes/sec or so, where a modern 7200 RPM disk can double that.

I've got an old P3 running Asterisk off an ext3-formatted 8GB CF card, been running over a year without any obvious wear problems... but it only gets 4 MBytes/sec.
 
  2009-02-10 03:21:45 PM  
FuturePastNow: TehNacho: Dumb question, but one I can't imagine askin' anywhere else...

I saw a SATA to Compact flash adapter the other today.

CompactFlash is sloooow


Hm... hadn't realized that. I assumed that with no moving parts it would be faster. Well, back to the drawing board.
 
  2009-02-10 07:56:40 PM  
 
  2009-02-11 02:06:40 AM  
DRAM, way too volatile even w/ battery, but yeah, fast.

The SSD market's a bit fragmented right now... so many different technologies calling themselves "SSD" that it's hard to tell what kind of performance, write wear prevention, etc you get for the price on each one. I'm waiting another year or two.

What's the performance goal here, what's the application, budget, durability, etc... or are we just kicking ideas around here :)
 
  2009-02-11 05:49:08 PM  
Mike: DRAM, way too volatile even w/ battery, but yeah, fast.

The SSD market's a bit fragmented right now... so many different technologies calling themselves "SSD" that it's hard to tell what kind of performance, write wear prevention, etc you get for the price on each one. I'm waiting another year or two.

What's the performance goal here, what's the application, budget, durability, etc... or are we just kicking ideas around here :)


Well, I was just thinkin' outloud. No real goal in mind.
 
  2009-02-11 05:56:31 PM  
Oh ok, then get eight 15K SAS disks, that'll do ya :)
 
  2009-02-11 06:50:02 PM  
I had a 10K 74GB Raptor.

I found the Loud-as-hell vs Performance to be negligible
 
  2009-02-11 08:48:02 PM  
Mike: Oh ok, then get eight 15K SAS disks, that'll do ya :)

LOL

You know, thinking about it, I do have one goal that I've been mulling around; quieting down my PC. With all those fans, it's pretty farkin' deafening.

At the same time, that would be a lot of work and an outlay of cash for probably negligible gains. I have a pretty good idea of my options; get a better, all aluminum case, get a set of Memory Fans (to keep them cool with fewer larger fans), get a larger heatsink, take out the two fans in the top of the case and put a silent fan up front... or just get a water cooling setup... but I don't have room for an internal or an external on my desk.
 
  2009-02-11 09:15:04 PM  
TehNacho: At the same time, that would be a lot of work and an outlay of cash for probably negligible gains. I have a pretty good idea of my options; get a better, all aluminum case, get a set of Memory Fans (to keep them cool with fewer larger fans), get a larger heatsink, take out the two fans in the top of the case and put a silent fan up front... or just get a water cooling setup... but I don't have room for an internal or an external on my desk.

You might not have negligible losses either if you took a few out. Just have one in the front and one in the back so the air moves in and out consistently. Might be quieter. If you've got aluminum covers on your RAM already, that's probably good enough, unless you're significantly overclocking it.
 
  2009-02-12 05:44:51 PM  
Uh, I changed the format of the arrangement of the folders of my music folder from default (which pretty much put them in the order that they were added) to alphabetical... I tried finding a sort by modified but there wasn't one. Then, someone I knew suggested sorting them by Year, I knew it wouldn't work but I wanted to show him it wouldn't, and boy howdy did it not work.

Now, whenever I open my music folder up, it rearranges all of the files again, nearly causing my computer to crash (it takes about 45 seconds to respond, but it eventually does).

Oh man, is there a way to fix this?
 
  2009-02-12 08:21:19 PM  
Hold on while the workshop vista machine boots...

...


...


if you select the view as Details or List there should be along the top of the explorer window titles like
Name, Type, Size, Tags, Date Modified

you just need to click on Date Modified. If it's not visible, scroll horzontally as it maybe be off screen - those column headings can be dragged around.

If it's still not showing up, go Organize -> Folder and Search options
Click the "Reset Folders" and "Restore Defaults" buttons, click apply, and close then re-open explorer.

/I hope it's vista we're talking about here
 
  2009-02-13 12:23:04 AM  
(When installing a new DVD-rw drive, ensure the cable really is plugged all the way in.

I did not know you could still open and close the drive without the data connection working.)
 
  2009-02-13 09:32:40 PM  
the short
is there a way to boot off an old hard drive without putting it back into the computer? i've already tried an IDE-USB adapter and booting from USB, it starts, and then i get a bluescreen which disappears too quickly for me to see what it says, if anything.

the long
I recently upgraded my computer to Vista Ult x64. I just put a new hard drive in and installed to that. I still have the old hard drive with XP on it. other than the HD, all other components of the computer are unchanged.

what i'm trying to do is this: when i first synced my Windows Mobile Cellphone to the Vista PC, it deleted all my contacts and everything on it. I know that i have a good save of all my stuff on the XP hard drive, but i'm too lazy to open the computer back up to swap out the hard drives just to resync my phone. I'll do that if there's no other option. I've since starting using the new Beta Google Sync, which works great, so i'm wondering if I can get my old stuff back, resync with google, and have everything old and new on my phone.

I thought i could just connect the drive via an IDE to USB adapter, but when i select boot from USB on startup, it tries, gets through the first loading bar and to the loading Windows XP screen, but quickly bluescreens and reboots. the bluescreen is just a split second and i can't read if there is an error listed.

Is there anyway i can boot into the drive? maybe in some sort of virtual machine or other program? or am i stuck opening up the computer and just swapping the drive back out (which i probably could have done instead of typing out this long ass post)?
 
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