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  2008-11-19 06:09:54 PM
thanks fpn, look i'm not a serious gamer, i just wanted to know if it was possible to hook the pc up to the tv. after reading all the the comments on various cards i think the ice might be my best bet, i don't build computers from the ground up but i know how to upgrade my hardware [kind of . thats why i'm here]. there was alot of comments about drivers not working, i have time to find the correct one. also going to my puter manuf. website i don't see mine listed. they talked about an agp based mother board in the comments... mine is an off the shelf p/4. it has pci slots and one agp. then they were talking about a power supply issue. is this really relevant to my final outcome? i mean i could just get a larger monitor with the 6200 still working fine right?
 
  2008-11-19 08:27:01 PM
crunchief: i mean i could just get a larger monitor with the 6200 still working fine right?

Yeah. A 6200 should be fine with a larger monitor, except for the 30" computer monitors with their 2560x1600 resolution.
 
  2008-11-20 05:00:30 AM
Could I have your thoughts on the following situation please?

On the computer and technology section of a local forum that I read there is a discussion about somebody getting his comp infected with a virus/trojan called "W32/Sinowal-based!Maximus virus" (sic). Apparently this thing is responsible for over half a million compromised bank accounts

It turns out that of all the scanners and anti-virus products tested (33) only 2 (F-Prot and Authentium) could detect and remove it. As the discussion continues the moderator of the forum asks for it to be sent to him. Once he receives it he announces that he has infected a machine running Windows 2000 with it and then connected it to the internet to test the various on-line detection and removal tools.

Does it strike anyone else that deliberately connecting an infected machine with an 8 year old OS to the intertubes is a tad irresponsible if not downright stupid?
 
  2008-11-20 04:38:19 PM
if there's no sensitive information on the PC, and he cleans it out every once and a while so it doesn't become a bot, who cares?

security people do this all the time, it's called a honeypot.
 
  2008-11-20 04:52:33 PM
Why?
 
  2008-11-20 06:33:46 PM
The internet is just a series of tubes you can dump a whole bunch of infected PCs into. I'm not sure if there's any reason to worry about the health of the internet itself.

Unrelated question: how can I make my home theater pc do stuff remotely? Say from my laptop. Like... play music and stuff out of the music system the HTPC is connected to. Does what I want to do make sense? The laptop and the HTPC are network connected. I dual boot both with ubuntu and xp, but end up spending most of my time in XP, for gaming. Any ideas?
 
  2008-11-20 07:23:59 PM
fpn, i didn't make lite of all the help and directions/links you gave me, nor did i try to opt out of an upgrade to my system. all i wanted to know was what was entailed to do the pc/tv link. i have alot of info thanks to you and others. if i was to upgrade my monitor to a 30" i might as well just rebuild from the ground up. i have an 18" monitor now and all the games run fine. upgrade to a 24"?, maybe and i know i'll lose frs. with the 6200. as for buying a $150 card and a 30' cable at around $250 for the pc/tv link, it's still an option.i'm still kinda at a loss about an agp based system. as i said before mine has only one agp slot. i was told that the agp was faster because it is a stand alone bus. there is no pci e slot on the board. this s a work in progress and i want to be sure i do it close to right the 1st time
 
  2008-11-20 07:26:30 PM
gayb: Any ideas?

VLC
 
  2008-11-21 12:16:16 AM
crunchief: fpn, i didn't make lite of all the help and directions/links you gave me, nor did i try to opt out of an upgrade to my system. all i wanted to know was what was entailed to do the pc/tv link. i have alot of info thanks to you and others. if i was to upgrade my monitor to a 30" i might as well just rebuild from the ground up. i have an 18" monitor now and all the games run fine. upgrade to a 24"?, maybe and i know i'll lose frs. with the 6200. as for buying a $150 card and a 30' cable at around $250 for the pc/tv link, it's still an option.i'm still kinda at a loss about an agp based system. as i said before mine has only one agp slot. i was told that the agp was faster because it is a stand alone bus. there is no pci e slot on the board. this s a work in progress and i want to be sure i do it close to right the 1st time

No, it's OK. Your 6200 should be OK for connecting to a TV to watch videos and stuff.

I would go with a DVI to HDMI adapter and an HDMI cable. A 30' cable ought to be about $30-$40 online. It really ought to be as simple as plugging the adapter into the card and connecting the cable to the TV.
 
  2008-11-21 05:27:59 PM
fpn, so now back to square 1. i do want to play quake/ doom /myst / spore etc. on the tv.this is not a porn upgrade. upgrading the video card...not a problem. 30' hdmi cable... not a problem. in the ratings some purchasers said you need a bigger power supply , some said no. they also said the card ran hot even with the onboard fan.there was also a driver issue that looked like there was no support from hmi. i really just feel like going out and buy the stuff and see if it works. but if a p4 motherboard won't handle the load then what is the point?i could find a local guy around here i suppose and have him give me a hand but it seems real basic to me: adequate card, high end cable. i have a soundblaster audiocard so even if the sound isn't from the tv, np. soin essence can i turn this off the shelf pc into a gamer [of med -high satisfaction] or just screw it... buy a new pc devoted to what i want. again i'm not a hardcore gamer i just thought the bigger picture would be fun
 
  2008-11-22 06:24:04 PM
Man, I don't know. Beyond a certain point, it's just not worth it to keep upgrading an old computer.

I will say that the cheaper cards in the group I linked to- the 2600 and 3600 cards- shouldn't cause any power supply problems. They should also be able to handle relatively un-demanding games like Spore and old games like Quake on a 1080p TV.
 
  2008-11-23 12:36:06 PM
np and thanks , i have a direction to go in at least.my stepson had a hdmi cable so i'm just gonna hook that up 1st and go from there
 
  2008-11-24 01:47:07 AM
Hey guys, possibly a strange spot to ask but where's a good site to absorb knowledge and ask questions about computer components?
 
  2008-11-24 01:19:58 PM
Xinkz: Hey guys, possibly a strange spot to ask but where's a good site to absorb knowledge and ask questions about computer components?

anandtech.com

bit-tech.net
 
  2008-11-24 03:45:23 PM
What's bigger, a Roomba or a Simon?
 
  2008-11-24 05:42:18 PM
Man On Fire: Xinkz: Hey guys, possibly a strange spot to ask but where's a good site to absorb knowledge and ask questions about computer components?

anandtech.com

bit-tech.net


techreport.com is also good. They have a good forum.
 
  2008-11-28 06:26:53 PM
I know it's a shot in the dark being Friday on thanksgiving weekend, but here's my woes.

I bought a new SATA HDD (1 TB) for my desktop (AMD Athlon 64 3700+). I ran the install on the live cd for Ubuntu 8.10 (64 bit) and when it came to the partitions, it listed absolutely nothing. I'm booting Windows from a separate HDD (200 GB) and Gparted on the live cd didn't find this partition either.

On the other hand, Partition Magic for in Windows found both hard drives. Any ideas? TIA
 
  2008-11-28 07:22:15 PM
I unplugged the SATA cables and plugged em back in, started up the live cd again and it recognized the partitions. Who knows what went wrong. Feel free to ignore these posts :)
 
  2008-11-28 10:09:00 PM
I have a printer question;

We just bought a stupid cheap printer on black friday, and I'd like to share it between our two computers... assuming I can get it to install on my machine without using the shiatty proprietary HP software... I just want to use the drivers and none of the "zomfg buy moar ink!"... anywho the question is;

Is there a device that I can plug into the Gigabit switch these two computers share which will allow me to plug in this USB printer to my network to share it, or will I have to move the USB cable all the time?

The printer does not have an ethernet port. I am also well aware of the stupidity of buying a printer on sale which I will have to buy extra hardware for, so please be kind and don't point this out.
 
  2008-11-28 11:03:31 PM
TehNacho: I have a printer question;

We just bought a stupid cheap printer on black friday, and I'd like to share it between our two computers... assuming I can get it to install on my machine without using the shiatty proprietary HP software... I just want to use the drivers and none of the "zomfg buy moar ink!"... anywho the question is;

Is there a device that I can plug into the Gigabit switch these two computers share which will allow me to plug in this USB printer to my network to share it, or will I have to move the USB cable all the time?

The printer does not have an ethernet port. I am also well aware of the stupidity of buying a printer on sale which I will have to buy extra hardware for, so please be kind and don't point this out.


Yes. What you're looking for is called a USB Print Server. Here's an example of one that I've used in the past DLink Print Server (new window). Of course, your milage may vary, you will want to consult the manual to make sure your printer type is supported. Also any multi-function things won't work-just printing.
 
  2008-11-29 02:10:23 PM
Fenis-Wolf: TehNacho: I have a printer question;

We just bought a stupid cheap printer on black friday, and I'd like to share it between our two computers... assuming I can get it to install on my machine without using the shiatty proprietary HP software... I just want to use the drivers and none of the "zomfg buy moar ink!"... anywho the question is;

Is there a device that I can plug into the Gigabit switch these two computers share which will allow me to plug in this USB printer to my network to share it, or will I have to move the USB cable all the time?

The printer does not have an ethernet port. I am also well aware of the stupidity of buying a printer on sale which I will have to buy extra hardware for, so please be kind and don't point this out.

Yes. What you're looking for is called a USB Print Server. Here's an example of one that I've used in the past DLink Print Server (new window). Of course, your milage may vary, you will want to consult the manual to make sure your printer type is supported. Also any multi-function things won't work-just printing.


Awesome. Quintuple word score. But unfortunately this is a multifunction dealy deal... mebbe knowing what to look for now I can google and find something that will do multi-function.
 
  2008-11-29 02:36:27 PM
Surprisingly enough I managed to get it working with what I have- I just power it down and swap out the USB cables for the time being (the computers are set up, for now, for this to be easier than buying more stuff)... I tried installing just the minimum of drivers also, but I'm not sure if it's going to work, it looks like automatic updates are always on (which is weird because I was able to shut if off on the full install I did on my wife's machine)... but now I keep hearing the "doo... doo doo doo" of windows telling me something is being hooked up or not hooked up. It's not plugged into my machine right now... should I try to figure out what is causing this or just shut off that noise in the audio properties menu?

/and then, even though the computer was turned off and unplugged, the windows logo still appeared brightly on the monitor.
//that's not scary.
///it is if you're a laser printer.
 
  2008-11-29 03:40:46 PM
TehNacho: //that's not scary.
///it is if you're a laser printer.


Hey now.
 
  2008-11-30 01:26:36 PM
You could just plug the printer into one computer, turn on file/printer sharing in the operating system, and have the other computer print to it that way. Cheaper than an USB/ethernet print server...

The real trick is when the printer has only Windows drivers and the other computers on the network wanting to print to it are Macs. (There are hackish ways to do it using ghostscript)

Still doesn't address the multifunction stuff.
 
  2008-11-30 04:20:36 PM
Mike: You could just plug the printer into one computer, turn on file/printer sharing in the operating system, and have the other computer print to it that way. Cheaper than an USB/ethernet print server...

The real trick is when the printer has only Windows drivers and the other computers on the network wanting to print to it are Macs. (There are hackish ways to do it using ghostscript)

Still doesn't address the multifunction stuff.


Yeah. The multifunction stuff is killing me. I can't use all of the features on my machine anyways seein' as I only installed the basic printer drivers (trying to avoid the shiatty HP software as much as possible)... might have to break down and install it all the way. Ugh.
 
  2008-11-30 07:10:51 PM
You can pretty much uninstall the crap you don't need bit by bit, once it's installed
 
  2008-11-30 11:40:27 PM
HP does a pretty good job of not anally raping the user with their drivers and software. You can choose what to install when you d/l the whole package. Make sure to go into msconfig and tell it not to start up or connect to the internet.
 
  2008-12-01 01:01:59 PM
I've been spending some time working on my mom's computer... she has XP and 2k running in VMWare (long story as to why this is necessary). A USB security token works fine in VMware, but can't get 2k to recognize a flash drive, even after updating the USB drivers via windows update.

Anyone have ideas?
 
  2008-12-01 01:37:43 PM
 
  2008-12-01 01:58:17 PM
No_47: http://www.vmware.com/support/ws45/doc/devices_usb_ws.html

(tl;dr)


Yeah, I found that and it wasn't too helpful.. I ended up having to run it as a shared folder and map it onto the guest desktop. Oh well.
 
  2008-12-01 07:28:19 PM
That's what I do with VirtualBox
 
  2008-12-01 08:47:19 PM
The moon had 2 companion stars (venus/mars?)with it this evening, so I got my camera out and took some pics. Of course, it all came out crappy, but I did think of something pretty kewl Id like to share.

I took my camera (a sanyo vpc-s500, aka walmart special) and set it to burst mode (takes a series of pictures with only 1 press of the button), set it on the ground facing up out back, and got some pictures that appeared at first totally black.

After taking the images and putting them into layers in photoshop, I adjusted brightness/contrast and set the mode to difference. Holy crap, the sky is full of stuff. Theres purple dots (I think theyre stars) yellow spots (infrared sources?) crosses (lens flare?) and I think I even got spacejunk/a meteor (at 710,140, if you set your ruler to pixels) For a sec I wondered what the structure thingy on the right side was, then realized it was a tree lol. All that from totally black images.

Images, if anyone wants to play with them, are here (1.5M to 2M each):

Sky 1 (new window)


sky 2 (new window)


my final version (new window)
 
  2008-12-01 09:56:18 PM
They're streetlights.
 
  2008-12-02 08:22:58 PM
GTA IV PC

Minimum System Requirements
OS: Windows Vista - Service Pack 1 / XP - Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz, AMD Athlon X2 64 2.4Ghz
Memory: 1.5GB, 16GB Free Hard Drive Space
Video Card: 256MB NVIDIA 7900 / 256MB ATI X1900

Recommended System Requirements
OS: Windows Vista - Service Pack 1 / XP - Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4Ghz, AMD Phenom X3 2.1Ghz
Memory: 2 GB (Windows XP) 2.5 GB (Windows Vista)
18 GB Free Hard Drive Space
Video Card: 512MB NVIDIA 8600 / 512MB ATI 3870


crikey
 
  2008-12-02 08:32:02 PM
No_47: GTA IV PC

Minimum System Requirements
OS: Windows Vista - Service Pack 1 / XP - Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz, AMD Athlon X2 64 2.4Ghz
Memory: 1.5GB, 16GB Free Hard Drive Space
Video Card: 256MB NVIDIA 7900 / 256MB ATI X1900

Recommended System Requirements
OS: Windows Vista - Service Pack 1 / XP - Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4Ghz, AMD Phenom X3 2.1Ghz
Memory: 2 GB (Windows XP) 2.5 GB (Windows Vista)
18 GB Free Hard Drive Space
Video Card: 512MB NVIDIA 8600 / 512MB ATI 3870


crikey


JAYSUS CHRIST
 
  2008-12-02 09:16:58 PM
and I bought it

I have to overclock X2 200mhz to hit min. spec
 
  2008-12-03 12:49:27 AM
nosajghoul: my final version (new window)

That's pretty farking cool. However, don't get too excited...a large amount of that could just be dust. I want to believe though, so I am going to go ahead and assume those dots are all stars.

I'm also going to go do the same thing the next time it's clear in Portland. You can't have all the fun.
 
  2008-12-03 02:42:44 AM
No_47: GTA IV PC

Minimum System Requirements
OS: Windows Vista - Service Pack 1 / XP - Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz, AMD Athlon X2 64 2.4Ghz
Memory: 1.5GB, 16GB Free Hard Drive Space
Video Card: 256MB NVIDIA 7900 / 256MB ATI X1900

Recommended System Requirements
OS: Windows Vista - Service Pack 1 / XP - Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4Ghz, AMD Phenom X3 2.1Ghz
Memory: 2 GB (Windows XP) 2.5 GB (Windows Vista)
18 GB Free Hard Drive Space
Video Card: 512MB NVIDIA 8600 / 512MB ATI 3870


crikey


I will own a computer powerful enough to play that game.

In four or five years.
 
  2008-12-03 04:18:07 AM
Well, it runs...

After the wtf "insert original disc and not a backup" Securom errors and learning that I have to stay signed out of the Rockstar Social Club for it to not crash at launch... I forgot how crappy the shadows look in this game...

might playsome Left 4 Dead now...
 
  2008-12-03 04:19:50 AM
It won't run at my LCD's native 1280x1024 resolution (it won't even let you pick the setting), with a 320MB 8800GTS (G80), an E8400 CPU, and 2 GB memory. It will accept 1152x864, just the scaling looks a bit crummy, and I have to set texture quality to low -- but so far it runs great at that speed.

Seems like VRAM might be my limiting factor, not the render speed of the card or the CPU, so even a very slight nudge up to a 512MB 8800GT/9800GT might do the trick, and the price is right. I can't quite justify a GTX260 for just this game, but maybe a 9800GTX+ would work. I'm not really up to date on the latest nVidia stuff... thoughts? I do have access to someone else's 768MB 8800GTX so I can test the VRAM theory first before blowing $.
 
  2008-12-03 04:21:59 AM
s/at that speed/at that resolution/

duuuhr
 
  2008-12-03 01:41:01 PM
I spent most of the night playing around with my video settings (512mb 9600gt) and my framerate isn't improving. But I can run it at 1280x1024. I get about the same framerates as running at 1024x768.

My motherboard won't take anything more than a dual core, gosh darnit.
 
  2008-12-03 02:09:06 PM
damn, i was really hopeful to be able to play GTA4, but i'm pretty much just over those minimum specs overall with my video card of course being the limiting factor. lame.

on a side note, another geek forum question. i've been a proud AVG user for a while now, but with AVG 7.5 no longer being supported for free and AVG 8 seems to be ridiculously bloated in comparison, i'm now looking for a new, small, free antivirus. any suggestions?
 
  2008-12-03 02:57:33 PM
Direct TV dish mounted on top of building(53rd floor). Hi Def Recievers need to be on 21st floor. Aprox. 500ft run of quad shield RG-6.
Will a 20db amp be enough?
Will I have to insert power to the LNBs?
Is it possible to mux the 4 coax into 1 multimode fiber?

Any help will do. Thanks.
 
  2008-12-03 05:43:14 PM
On a 9600GT what quality settings does it let you use at 1280x1024, and what framerate does the motorcycle benchmark thing give you? I tend to get about 35 here at 1152x864 or 1024x768 on low texture settings... and I'd rather get to 1280x1024 high texture settings but cheaply.
 
  2008-12-03 05:45:58 PM
I don't know if a 20dB amp is enough, though I think RG6 is lower loss than the usual RG59, but for the love of $diety get some lightning protection on that thing :) MM fiber would take care of the lightning, but I've never heard of a mux for that. Doesn't mean they don't exist, though, if you find one I'd be curious...
 
  2008-12-03 07:28:21 PM
from memory it automatically set it to, in this order
Medium
High
20-something
20-something
and i don't remember the rest. got 25fps i think

I'm going to knock my cpu up to 2.7 and see if it's stable
 
  2008-12-03 11:45:21 PM
There a way (extension) to get IE7-style scroll-down bookmarks in ff? The sales rep who was trying to sell me a 30 inch ceramic cooktop was using IE, the first time I've even seen IE in like a year.
 
  2008-12-04 02:29:44 AM
gayb: nosajghoul: my final version (new window)

That's pretty farking cool. However, don't get too excited...a large amount of that could just be dust. I want to believe though, so I am going to go ahead and assume those dots are all stars.

I'm also going to go do the same thing the next time it's clear in Portland. You can't have all the fun.


The majority of the purple dots line up exactly with a star chart, which is amazing because theres just farking TONS of them and only a dozen or so were visible to the naked eye. If you want, let me know when you get pics in portland. Im in the middle of Kansas. Would be interesting to compare results taken on the same night. I just laid my camera down on its back, as I couldnt get a clear picture otherwise. Even just clicking the button introduced enough wobble to kill the image. My email in my profile is just to catch trolls, it hasnt worked in years. Hit me up at jason dot lough at gmail dot com.
 
  2008-12-04 11:08:49 AM
nosajghoul: The majority of the purple dots line up exactly with a star chart, which is amazing because theres just farking TONS of them and only a dozen or so were visible to the naked eye. If you want, let me know when you get pics in portland. Im in the middle of Kansas.

Ok, I'll try to do that. But the light pollution here is an order of magnitude (or two, or three) greater than where you are. It's probably hopeless. Plus it's ALWAYS cloudy here. I bet you can still see the Milky Way defined at times, no?

Even pointing a pair of cheap binoculars at a blank patch of sky will reveal hundreds of stars. Best thing ever.
 
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