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Tsunami Ditka		2008-11-05 09:39:25 AM

I thought they hadn't even counted a couple of precincts yet? And that those precincts were likely to swing Dem? No?

nictamer		2008-11-05 09:39:31 AM

I so hope Franken wins. Just to see BillO Fallafel's face.

Larry Mahnken		2008-11-05 09:40:59 AM

The last precincts came in with not enough votes for Franken.

If the recount is done fairly, without interference or cherry-picking, frankly we still don't know who won. Coleman obviously has a slight advantage because of his lead, but you just don't know.

DamnYankees		2008-11-05 09:41:07 AM

Damnit. Come on!

Cinaed		2008-11-05 09:41:52 AM

GO FUNNY MAN GO!

FlyPanAm		2008-11-05 09:42:16 AM

On CNN they are saying there will be an automatic recount and we may not know the winner until Dec.

The final count I saw has a 700 vote difference out of about 3 million voters.

Befuddled		2008-11-05 09:42:20 AM

If the margin is that low, won't the absentee ballots be significant, meaning this still could go either way?

/still hoping that Franken wins

Spanky_McFarksalot		2008-11-05 09:42:24 AM

I don't like Franken but I don't live in Minnesota.

dittybopper		2008-11-05 09:42:58 AM

Larry Mahnken: The last precincts came in with not enough votes for Franken.

If the recount is done fairly, without interference or cherry-picking, ~~frankly~~ frankenly we still don't know who won. Coleman obviously has a slight advantage because of his lead, but you just don't know.

FTFY.

Aernis		2008-11-05 09:43:14 AM

meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

rocinante721		2008-11-05 09:44:17 AM

Recounts favor military, usually Republican.

Not a Coleman fan, but Franken is the posterboy for Limousine Liberal Douchenozz; he needs a cockpunch.

... and no, I won't forgive him for STUART SAVE HIS FAMILY.

FlyPanAm		2008-11-05 09:44:28 AM

FlyPanAm: On CNN they are saying there will be an automatic recount and we may not know the winner until Dec.

The final count I saw has a 700 vote difference out of about 3 million voters.

So I RTFA

Yeah, it says what I just said. Except for the Dec thing.

DamnYankees		2008-11-05 09:44:42 AM

Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

They are morons. They elected Palin, after all.

Alaska looking like the biggest loser in this election.

rocinante721		2008-11-05 09:45:13 AM

Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

Does Obama need those votes?

Scott the Twat		2008-11-05 09:45:17 AM

But that's . . . okay.

guilt by association		2008-11-05 09:45:33 AM

Because he's good enough, smart enough, and doggone it, enough people voted for him to warrant a recount.

stebain		2008-11-05 09:45:51 AM

Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

Oakenshield		2008-11-05 09:46:14 AM

Well, it the two of them hadn't run such a hateful, deceitful campaign, a lot of folks wouldn't have handed Barkley the results he got, and it would likely be a different story.

Franken lost my vote with his vitriol and overt truthinesss. Which sucks, because I wanted Norm out, that wishy-washy pandering shiatbag.

Earguy		2008-11-05 09:46:54 AM

This is the funniest picture I could find of Al Franken, but it won't let me hotlink.

You'll have to copy and paste.

Tsunami Ditka		2008-11-05 09:46:55 AM

Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

They're retards, that's what happened. I think we should take the AIP up on their offer.

Tsunami Ditka		2008-11-05 09:47:36 AM

rocinante721: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

Does Obama need those votes?

Pretty sure Aernis is talking about Stevens & Young.

FlyPanAm		2008-11-05 09:48:53 AM

Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

With 99% of precincts reporting:

Stevens (Incumbent)
106,351
48%

Begich
102,998
47%

So AK just elected a Felon. Oh, and they have a Governor with an ethics violation.

They are the real America right?

I'm confused.

DamnYankees		2008-11-05 09:49:26 AM

stebain: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

IIRC, a few days ago an important Senator said if he was elected they would expel him from the Senate. I'm kicking myself for not remembering who said that.

Lawnchair		2008-11-05 09:49:26 AM

stebain: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

Yes, but the Senate can choose to kick him out.

Personally, if I were Reid, I'd wouldn't put up a vote for his expulsion. Let him run his appeals. Let him fester. Let him stink up the joint. The people of Alaska wanted a criminal tainted Senator from the party deeply in the minority? Let them have him, and all the absolutely zero clout he brings. Let him serve as the poster boy of the GOP.

BillCo		2008-11-05 09:49:48 AM

stebain: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

No, but by electing a Republican they prevent a Dem from taking the seat. If (when)Stevens is kicked out of office they will hold a special election which is pretty much a slam dunk for a Republican.

DistendedPendulusFrenulum		2008-11-05 09:50:27 AM

Well, score one for Rovian politics and another red-meat conservitard

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Earguy		2008-11-05 09:50:31 AM

stebain: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

Yes. He must be expelled from the Senate after hearings and vote, a fight he could hypothetically survive.

If he is ousted, a replacement senator would be appointed. Varying state to state, the appointment may be by the governor or the senator himself.

My guess is that he'll resign before being expelled so he can keep all his sweet senate retirement perks. Then a new republican would replace him in Washington. Palin's consolation prize, a springboard to a 2012 presidential run?

Tsunami Ditka		2008-11-05 09:50:33 AM

DamnYankees: stebain: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

IIRC, a few days ago an important Senator said if he was elected they would expel him from the Senate. I'm kicking myself for not remembering who said that.

But then Palin would be able to appoint a replacement, yes?

schiefaw		2008-11-05 09:50:34 AM

stebain: It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

Maybe not after his first night in prison.

FlyPanAm		2008-11-05 09:50:45 AM

stebain: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

He'll be expelled. I don't know of anything that would keep a felon out of office, other than the public.

Earguy		2008-11-05 09:51:11 AM

Earguy: This is the funniest picture I could find of Al Franken, but it won't let me hotlink.

You'll have to copy and paste.

Damn.

http://www.geocities.com/perry_peterson_1999/franken4.jpg

PiperArrow		2008-11-05 09:52:02 AM

stebain: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

Not after the first night in prison.

/try the veal!

CarnySaur		2008-11-05 09:52:21 AM

Tsunami Ditka: I think we should take the AIP up on their offer.

What does Roger Corman have to do with this?

f4rmerbob		2008-11-05 09:52:30 AM

What's the deal with Georgia and the early votes?

Scott the Twat		2008-11-05 09:52:35 AM

BillCo: No, but by electing a Republican they prevent a Dem from taking the seat. If (when)Stevens is kicked out of office they will hold a special election which is pretty much a slam dunk for a Republican.

Say hello to Senator Palin.

Jackpot777		2008-11-05 09:52:38 AM

schiefaw: stebain: It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

Maybe not after his first night in prison.

i143.photobucket.com

/link is hotter than the prison shower.

Skleenar		2008-11-05 09:52:41 AM

stebain: It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

Not after time in the showers, I hear.

DamnYankees		2008-11-05 09:53:04 AM

f4rmerbob: What's the deal with Georgia and the early votes?

It's weird. Looks like none of them have been counted.

FlyPanAm		2008-11-05 09:53:21 AM

Tsunami Ditka: DamnYankees: stebain: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

IIRC, a few days ago an important Senator said if he was elected they would expel him from the Senate. I'm kicking myself for not remembering who said that.

But then Palin would be able to appoint a replacement, yes?

Can she appoint herself? Or Run if there's a special election?

Skleenar		2008-11-05 09:53:23 AM

PiperArrow: Not after the first night in prison.

/try the veal!

Crap.

F5. F5. F5.

PiperArrow		2008-11-05 09:54:12 AM

schiefaw: stebain: It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

Maybe not after his first night in prison.

PiperArrow: stebain: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

Not after the first night in prison.

/try the veal!

Damn you stebain, damn you and your fast typing.

:shakes tiny fist:

rocinante721		2008-11-05 09:55:06 AM

IN other news, Prop 8 is ~this~ close to being passed. 52% with 95% precincts reporting

Dil Doe		2008-11-05 09:55:46 AM

Wow, you know your political party has hit a new low when the absolute best you can hope for is to hold the opposing party to 59 Senate seats rather than 60. Ouch.

Lawnchair		2008-11-05 09:55:59 AM

BillCo: If (when)Stevens is kicked out of office they will hold a special election which is pretty much a slam dunk for a Republican.

Can't say that for sure, either. Begich, being within a percentage point of winning and having no other job will be running in the special. Who can the GOP find? The problem with small state politics (having lived in the Dakotas) is that there is basically no 'bench' and no 'farm team', so we get the few politicians we have.

I guess Palin will step down to run. Probably win. (And we'd be stuck with this moron for the next 35 years). But, it's not an absolute slam dunk.

DamnYankees		2008-11-05 09:56:45 AM

rocinante721: IN other news, Prop 8 is ~this~ close to being passed. 52% with 95% precincts reporting

CA should be ashamed of itself today. They will look back on this someday with horror.

f4rmerbob		2008-11-05 09:57:07 AM

DamnYankees: f4rmerbob: What's the deal with Georgia and the early votes?

It's weird. Looks like none of them have been counted.

According to 538 there were just over 2 million early votes, and current totals are ~3.6 million, which seems a bit off. There were only 3.3 total in 2004 though.

Oakenshield		2008-11-05 09:57:08 AM

FlyPanAm: So AK just elected a Felon. Oh, and they have a Governor with an ethics violation.
They are the real America right?
I'm confused.

Not usually one for This, but This.

GoldSpider		2008-11-05 09:57:11 AM

This is the same state that elected Jesse Ventura governor. You get the government you deserve. Please don't share the stupid with the rest of the country. Thanks.

Drunk Astronaut		2008-11-05 09:57:16 AM

stebain: Aernis: meanwhile wtf happened with alaska?

It appears Stevens won. Can a felon sit?

Legally, yes. However the Senate leadership has made it very clear that they intend to toss Stevens out. I would say that voting against that would be political suicide.

Alaska will need to have a special election to fill Stevens' seat. The BIG question then becomes will Sarah Palin run for it? She obviously wants to become a leader in the Republican party, and that will be very hard to do in a state as remote and small (population wise) as Alaska.

simplethinking		2008-11-05 09:58:33 AM

rocinante721: IN other news, Prop 8 is ~this~ close to being passed. 52% with 95% precincts reporting

Prop 8? The Colorado prop about defining when a human is a human? Wow... If that passes, someone needs to flood the court with stupid cases involving miscarriages and manslaughter charges.

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