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(Some Guy)   If you want to know something about good bourbon, look no further than Kevin Smith. No, not that one, the one from Maker's Mark   (newsandtribune.com) divider line 118
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2008-11-01 11:06:09 AM  
And if you want to know something about Scotch, look no further than Michael Jackson. (Also not that one.)
 
2008-11-01 11:06:29 AM  
I clicked on that mainly to see if there were any discount coupons going for Maker's Mark. Sadly, no. :-(

Interesting, though, in a sober sort of way.
 
2008-11-01 11:11:07 AM  
Was doing shots of Makers Mark last night.
 
2008-11-01 11:12:18 AM  
Small Batch is better: Knob Creek, Bakers, Basil Haydens and Bookers. Bookers is the best!
 
2008-11-01 11:12:55 AM  
Q: Worst thing you've ever seen mixed with bourbon?

SMITH: Vodka. It was just equal parts bourbon and vodka and it was horrible.


I just threw up in my mouth a little. WTF would even dream of doing that?

/a drunk?
 
2008-11-01 11:13:04 AM  
Oh good bourbon, how I love thee....Makers, Knob Creek, Woodford Reserve, or the REALLY good stuff that I can't afford even for special occasions (I'm a college students so I usually buy a handle of Jim Beam when its on sale and call that good). I love me some Makers. Kentucky Margaritas and Kentucky Cocktails (Ale-8 and Makers) are some of my all time favorite drinks. Basically I love bourbon. Love love love.
 
2008-11-01 11:14:01 AM  
oldebayer: I clicked on that mainly to see if there were any discount coupons going for Maker's Mark. Sadly, no. :-(


Go to their website and sign up for the Ambassador program. You won't get any coupons for Makers Mark but they will send you all kinds of free stuff in the mail. The best thing they sent so far is a cocktail shaker but the most unique would have to be the wax seal kit. Of course it all is branded with Makers Mark but since I like drinking their bourbon, that doesn't bother me any.
 
2008-11-01 11:14:14 AM  
WTF?

Who did this interview? A elementary school kid?

I'm surprised they didn't ask him "What's your favorite color?"
 
2008-11-01 11:17:42 AM  
Knob Creek, Makers Mark, Booker's, Basil Hayden's and Baker's are all made by Jim Beam.
 
2008-11-01 11:19:06 AM  
krusader3z: Was doing shots of Makers Mark last night.

Why on earth are you doing shots of good stuff? You enjoy good liquor, and shoot the warm well bourbon.
 
2008-11-01 11:26:32 AM  
I've enjoyed all of these brands listed in this thread, but a nice Jack on the rocks is still like coming home again. You have the assurance that one is waiting for you at any bar in the world.
 
2008-11-01 11:27:05 AM  
lizardcowgal: Kentucky Cocktails (Ale-8 and Makers)

Holy crap, that's gotta be like Vodka and Red Bull. Serious uppers with serious downers... I wonder if it's ever given anyone a heart attack?
 
2008-11-01 11:30:19 AM  
SciHobot: WTF?

Who did this interview? A elementary school kid?

I'm surprised they didn't ask him "What's your favorite color?"


No kidding! Interviewer was all over the place. Completely out of the blue, asks "Who's your favorite fictional character?" WTF does that have to do with ANYTHING you're talking about?!
 
2008-11-01 11:30:43 AM  
My sister's soon-to-be-ex-husband's family is friends with the guy who owns Maker's Mark. She was appalled to be told that some of the Special Edition bottles are actually filled with tea, not bourbon.

Also, the guy will apparently dip anything in wax. Including a regulation basketball signed by Tubby Smith dipped in pink wax to celebrate a granddaughter's birth.
 
2008-11-01 11:32:30 AM  
EngineerAU

Go to their website and sign up for the Ambassador program.

Done, and done. Thanks!
 
2008-11-01 11:32:36 AM  
otto the bull: I've enjoyed all of these brands listed in this thread, but a nice Jack on the rocks is still like coming home again. You have the assurance that one is waiting for you at any bar in the world.

You know, for years, I drank nothing but JD. Then, my brother in law opened my eyes to Jim Beam black and I decided I had been missing out big time. I've pretty much decided my next bottle will be another bourbon but I hadn't decided what way to go yet. Anyone have any suggestions?
 
2008-11-01 11:34:12 AM  
Oh good, whiskey/whisky thread!

I'm a Canadian looking for a good, mid-to-high-range bourbon...and we dont' seem to have the same sort of selection (or it's rather more hit-and-miss) than the US. I see Makers Mark and Knob Creek come up fairly regularly...are they what I'm looking for? What about Gentleman Jack?
 
2008-11-01 11:34:12 AM  
as a Makers Mark Ambassador I approve this message. I also think it's badass there there is a barrel of makers with my name on it somewhere at their distillery. Unofficially, I really love knob creek though ;)
 
2008-11-01 11:34:46 AM  
thirsty
 
2008-11-01 11:35:11 AM  
Though not a bourbon, Jim Beam also has a new Upperscale Rye whiskey coming out called R1 (pronounced Rye 1). It is delicious!
 
2008-11-01 11:37:05 AM  
superluminal girl: lizardcowgal: Kentucky Cocktails (Ale-8 and Makers)

Holy crap, that's gotta be like Vodka and Red Bull. Serious uppers with serious downers... I wonder if it's ever given anyone a heart attack?


I'm from the home of Ale-8, and I keep some on hand for the UK/UofL games and the Derby. Maker's and Ale-8 is just a damned fine drink. 'Course, after the first two, the Ale-8 goes away and it's just sweet, sweet Maker's.

And I have a Red/Blue labeled bottle of Maker's that's getting opened on Tuesday night.
 
2008-11-01 11:38:28 AM  
SciHobot: WTF?

Who did this interview? A elementary school kid?

I'm surprised they didn't ask him "What's your favorite color?"


+1

I was really hoping for some insight into the bourbon making process and why MM is so good. Instead, we find out that the guy kisses his dog.

Thanks for the link to the ambassador site. OMW!
 
2008-11-01 11:40:51 AM  
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Bourbon ?
 
2008-11-01 11:42:10 AM  
Express Train to Bonertown: And if you want to know something about Scotch, look no further than Michael Jackson. (Also not that one.)

Yes, but to have an interview would require a necromancer.
 
2008-11-01 11:46:28 AM  
bednarik.files.wordpress.com
 
2008-11-01 11:48:20 AM  
Kurohone~
Definitley try Knob Creek or Maker's Mark. Avoid Woodford and Gentleman Jack. Those taste like crap to me. But if you are simply looking for a good whiskey, look no further than your own native land. Canadian Club has Classic 12 which is really smooth and delcicious. You also might enjoy Canadian Club 's Sherry Cask. yUM! gOOD LUCK!
 
2008-11-01 11:50:42 AM  
The Makers Mark tour is also pretty fantastic. The whole area smells like bourbon.
 
2008-11-01 11:50:48 AM  
otto the bull: I've enjoyed all of these brands listed in this thread, but a nice Jack on the rocks is still like coming home again. You have the assurance that one is waiting for you at any bar in the world.

Huh, yeah good point. There's a definite sort of wisdom there.

/You'd think somebody would use that as a marketing angle
 
2008-11-01 11:55:46 AM  
Kentucky Cocktails (Ale-8 and Makers)

That's about the only thing that would make Ale-8 drinkable.

/the factory is near the Winchester Sewage Treatment Plant
/that's the secret of its "interesting" flavor
 
2008-11-01 11:56:29 AM  
PI Staker & Otto Bull~
We are talking about Bourbon is this thread. Jack is a Tennessee sipping whiskey and it is rated one of the worst by the Beverage Tasting Institute of America and the SanFransico Worlds. You both must like your whiskey filtered through charcoal in order to get a flavor and a color. I prefer the old fashioned way...AGING in the barrel. SHEEP! Advertising works on you!
 
2008-11-01 11:57:00 AM  
DocsInOKC: You know, for years, I drank nothing but JD. Then, my brother in law opened my eyes to Jim Beam black and I decided I had been missing out big time. I've pretty much decided my next bottle will be another bourbon but I hadn't decided what way to go yet. Anyone have any suggestions?

I would suggest either Maker's or Knob Creek. Maker's is a better starter bourbon as it's not quite as strong in both alcohol or flavor. On the other hand, there are plenty of good ones. Russel's Reserve isn't terrible, either.
 
2008-11-01 11:58:00 AM  
My parents moved to Kentucky a few years ago, and when I make it back to the states for a visit, we do the bourbon tours. Don't miss the bourbon chocolates.
 
2008-11-01 11:58:21 AM  
Bulleit bourbon. Try it. Smoothest bourbon ever.
 
2008-11-01 11:58:36 AM  
Pappy Van Winkle FTW!!
 
2008-11-01 11:59:34 AM  
katylan: Small Batch is better: Knob Creek, Bakers, Basil Haydens and Bookers. Bookers is the best!

I prefer Makers to Basil Haydens and Knob Creek. Not sure if I've tried the other two. To each his own.
 
2008-11-01 12:01:43 PM  
I hope he makes bourbon better than the other Kevin Smith makes movies. If not, only his first bottle was any good.
 
2008-11-01 12:02:04 PM  
Makers has been my bourbon of choice for a long time. I call it utility bourbon. Not too good to mix & not too cheap to drink neat. My favorite small batch is Basil Haydens.
 
2008-11-01 12:07:14 PM  
I enjoy Jefferson Reserve on special occasions.
 
2008-11-01 12:07:27 PM  
Makers got me started drinking bourbon. It is my favorite bourbon to use when mixing. For sipping, I prefer Knob Creek or Ridgemont Reserve 1792 on ice.
 
2008-11-01 12:07:31 PM  
I'm not a fan of his movies, but this interview of Kevin Smith (and Seth Rogen) talking about pron is very funny.
 
2008-11-01 12:12:41 PM  
I'm taking a break from Maker's Mark right now. Good bourbon, but like anything it can be tiresome after a while.

Now, I'm enjoying ...

www.spirituosenworld.de

... well, not now, but will be in a few hours.
 
2008-11-01 12:14:31 PM  
superluminal girl: lizardcowgal: Kentucky Cocktails (Ale-8 and Makers)

Holy crap, that's gotta be like Vodka and Red Bull. Serious uppers with serious downers... I wonder if it's ever given anyone a heart attack?


Well, I have frequently drank it and wondered why I couldn't go to sleep. And Ale-8 is the only kind of coke (soda) I really like, swamp water/sewage treatment plant proximity or not. It is yummmy.
 
2008-11-01 12:17:25 PM  
TheBetterHenry: Bulleit bourbon. Try it. Smoothest bourbon ever.

So when I lived in Lexington I was in love with Liquor Barn, and bought Bulliet because it was good and really cheap there. I'm not in Lex now but it seems like the price has gone waaaaay up. Whats up with that? Makes me sad, I love Bulliet.
 
2008-11-01 12:17:55 PM  
www.whiskeysammlung.de

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farm3.static.flickr.com

/Yes, I know that Jack is a Tennessee whiskey, and I know that alot of critics don't like it, but the only critic that matters is me and I know what I like and don't give a damn if other people don't care for what I am drinking. Give me Gentleman Jack straight up out of the freezer, Single barrel Jack at room temperature straight up or with 2 cubes, or black Jack any way it can be served.
//Bourbon is good but Scotch is better:)
 
2008-11-01 12:18:17 PM  
Maker's and Knob Creek are ok, Woodford's not bad, and Elijah Craig 12 year is drinkable.....but for my money nothing touches WL Weller 12 year (except the 19 year). Unfortunately I can't seem to find it anywhere for the last six or eight months, and I can't seem to find out why. Anybody here know what's up?
 
2008-11-01 12:22:06 PM  
Mmmmmmmm....

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2008-11-01 12:24:11 PM  
What is this Ale-8? (googles) must be a VERY regional thing, as I have lived most of my life in the PA/OH/MD/DC/VA area and have never ever had it, seen it, or even heard of it before.

Someone want to tell me what it tastes like?
 
2008-11-01 12:26:22 PM  
I don't know why everyone fawns over Makers Mark. It's about on the same level as Ten High. It makes a shiatty hand and even shiattier drinks. If you want something to get snobbish about, this isn't the stuff to brag about.
/Knob Creek FTW!
 
2008-11-01 12:26:32 PM  
just_dis_guy: What is this Ale-8? (googles) must be a VERY regional thing, as I have lived most of my life in the PA/OH/MD/DC/VA area and have never ever had it, seen it, or even heard of it before.

Someone want to tell me what it tastes like?


Yeah, it is a VERY regional thing. Since KY was not included in the states you have lived in I'm not surprised you haven't heard of it. I think it is sort of like ginger ale, lots of people call it swamp water. Its pretty good stuff.
 
2008-11-01 12:26:34 PM  
THE best:
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Bookers...ahhh!
 
2008-11-01 12:27:37 PM  
Kurohone: Oh good, whiskey/whisky thread!

I'm a Canadian looking for a good, mid-to-high-range bourbon...and we dont' seem to have the same sort of selection (or it's rather more hit-and-miss) than the US. I see Makers Mark and Knob Creek come up fairly regularly...are they what I'm looking for? What about Gentleman Jack?


I understand you're looking for bourbon, and this thread will give you plenty of suggestions, but what's wrong with Crown Royal Special Reserve?

I have a bottle. It is excellent.
 
2008-11-01 12:27:47 PM  
Just_Dis_guy
I think ALE 8 tastes like Vernors Ginger ale.
 
2008-11-01 12:31:35 PM  
BobtheFascist: Makers has been my bourbon of choice for a long time. I call it utility bourbon. Not too good to mix & not too cheap to drink neat.

That's exactly how I use it in my liquor cabinet.

/loves me a good scotch, neat though...
 
2008-11-01 12:34:00 PM  
I'm surprised noone mentioned W.L. Weller 107 Proopf
 
2008-11-01 12:35:25 PM  
w_houle: I'm surprised noone mentioned W.L. Weller 107 Proopf

Bookers = 126 proof
 
2008-11-01 12:36:11 PM  
I've only had one bottle (they don't sell it in the northwest), but Rowan's Creek is hands down, the BEST bourbon I've ever had. 100.3 proof, and smoother than anything else I've ever tried (everything everyone's mentioned). Not throwing a gauntlet down, but if you have the opportunity to try it, do so.
 
2008-11-01 12:38:30 PM  
I'm in college so I drink old crow. it only goes down well mixed with cola. Anyone want to send me some financial aid to my get better bourbon fund?
 
2008-11-01 12:39:53 PM  
tdpatriots12: (pic of Knob Creek bottle)

THIS

Well.....this now that all the old regular names have just become rotgut (literally can't stomach things like Jim Beam, etc. any more), and my favorite back in the day, J.W. Dant 100 proof, is now made of unobtanium.
 
2008-11-01 12:40:11 PM  
Old Crow eh? Well at least it ain't Old Granddad!
 
2008-11-01 12:44:16 PM  
lizardcowgal: Oh good bourbon, how I love thee....Makers, Knob Creek, Woodford Reserve, or the REALLY good stuff that I can't afford even for special occasions (I'm a college students so I usually buy a handle of Jim Beam when its on sale and call that good). I love me some Makers. Kentucky Margaritas and Kentucky Cocktails (Ale-8 and Makers) are some of my all time favorite drinks. Basically I love bourbon. Love love love.

/yum
// I'll take Jack over Jim though
 
2008-11-01 12:44:18 PM  
I must agree, back in my drinking days, I liked my Maker's Mark.

Smoooth but with one hell of a kick.
 
2008-11-01 12:46:13 PM  
Johnny Walker for me.
 
2008-11-01 12:47:08 PM  
toppgun: I'm in college so I drink old crow. it only goes down well mixed with cola. Anyone want to send me some financial aid to my get better bourbon fund?

It would be an exercise in diminishing returns. Old Crow is essentially Jim Beam white label in a different bottle, and believe it or not, has actually been rated rather highly- especially in blind taste tests.

To get a "better" Bourbon, you'd need to spend exponentially more, and I don't know how much of a return on investment you'd get. College drinking is generally about volume, so stick with the Crow for now.
 
2008-11-01 12:52:09 PM  
Stop in Lynchburg and take a tour of the JD facility and go up to the top floor and smell the fermenting mash.

I like all the spirits listed so far and would add Blanton's with the little gold guy on the top. Hard to pick a favorite.
 
2008-11-01 12:52:53 PM  
Bourbon, Bourbon, Bourbon. I love me some Bourbon!
 
2008-11-01 12:54:06 PM  
I know, you're thinking this guy must be a troll to compare our beloved MM to such crap, but make an honest comparison; neat, on the rocks, and with a splash of water. You'll find MM has more of a harsh chemical taste.
 
2008-11-01 12:55:17 PM  
Well said Gonz! You know your bourbon. Toppgun would be wise to listen to you.
 
2008-11-01 12:55:20 PM  
Mr.Hawk: lizardcowgal: Oh good bourbon, how I love thee....Makers, Knob Creek, Woodford Reserve, or the REALLY good stuff that I can't afford even for special occasions (I'm a college students so I usually buy a handle of Jim Beam when its on sale and call that good). I love me some Makers. Kentucky Margaritas and Kentucky Cocktails (Ale-8 and Makers) are some of my all time favorite drinks. Basically I love bourbon. Love love love.

/yum
// I'll take Jack over Jim though


I'm a fan of bourbon, not so much Tennessee whiskey. But yeah. This thread has lots of yummmmmmmm.
 
2008-11-01 12:59:08 PM  
What does Maker's Mark have to do with good bourbon? It's painfully middle-of-the-road, rather banal, actually. Too mild, too sweet, too "pleasant", too bland.
 
2008-11-01 12:59:30 PM  
Jim or Jack every day of the week and then some!
 
2008-11-01 12:59:56 PM  
w_houle: I'm surprised noone mentioned W.L. Weller 107 Proopf

Haven't tried the Weller 107, but in my earlier post I did say that nothing I've tried comes close to the WL Weller 12 and 19 year. Now I have to give the 107 a go! :o)
 
2008-11-01 01:00:20 PM  
Oops. I mean Jim OVER Jack...
 
2008-11-01 01:00:57 PM  
This could be a reason for a vacation down south.

Link (new window)
 
2008-11-01 01:05:28 PM  
Mr Hawk~
Yeah. Sounds great. I read an article saying that the Kentucky Bourbon Trail was the top choice amongst men for guys getting together to have a "mancation". Also, I read Jim Beam is currently doing a remodel to upgrade the visitor experience. It's supposed to be phenomenal when it's complete.
 
2008-11-01 01:07:32 PM  
Mr.Hawk: This could be a reason for a vacation down south.

Link (new window)


I suggested this as a bachelorette party event. Somehow I was shot down. I think I might need new friends.
 
2008-11-01 01:12:37 PM  
TheBetterHenry: ullei

Bulleit is overpriced for its taste, IMO.

I think Wild Turkey is definitely a far better buy.

Where is the love for Wild Turkey?!
 
2008-11-01 01:12:46 PM  
No love for Blanton's? Pricey, but mighty smooth...
i303.photobucket.com
 
2008-11-01 01:15:18 PM  
Ridgemont Reserve 1792 Small Batch Bourbon

/that is all
 
2008-11-01 01:22:27 PM  
JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: /Yes, I know that Jack is a Tennessee whiskey, and I know that alot of critics don't like it, but the only critic that matters is me and I know what I like and don't give a damn if other people don't care for what I am drinking. Give me Gentleman Jack straight up out of the freezer, Single barrel Jack at room temperature straight up or with 2 cubes, or black Jack any way it can be served.
//Bourbon is good but Scotch is better:)


My ex-wife always raved about gentleman jack so I bought her a bottle for her b-day years ago. Opened the bottle and spent the rest of the night trying to figure out what smelled like dirty feet - turns out it was her $30 bottle of whiskey. Never tried the stuff again.
 
2008-11-01 01:23:58 PM  
pesuto: TheBetterHenry: ullei

Bulleit is overpriced for its taste, IMO.

I think Wild Turkey is definitely a far better buy.

Where is the love for Wild Turkey?!


Love the turkey but it brings out the 'monkey' as my wife calls it. I save it for nights when I really want to get shiat-faced while listening to bluegrass.
 
2008-11-01 01:26:18 PM  
Silly_Sot: What does Maker's Mark have to do with good bourbon? It's painfully middle-of-the-road, rather banal, actually. Too mild, too sweet, too "pleasant", too bland.

So you don't like it because it doesn't kick you in the face like the rotgut does???

It is a perfectly smooth, acceptable bourbon for drinking neat or on the rock. Doesn't go well with soda because of the sweetness but works very well with a little water.
 
2008-11-01 01:28:21 PM  
www.weinquelle.com
 
2008-11-01 01:34:48 PM  
bp3.blogger.com

Tastes like shiat, but they'll make you drunk.
 
2008-11-01 01:37:25 PM  
StormDawg: No love for Blanton's? Pricey, but mighty smooth...

Wife got me some for my birthday and I loved it.
 
2008-11-01 01:44:04 PM  
pdieten: Kurohone: Oh good, whiskey/whisky thread!

I'm a Canadian looking for a good, mid-to-high-range bourbon...and we dont' seem to have the same sort of selection (or it's rather more hit-and-miss) than the US. I see Makers Mark and Knob Creek come up fairly regularly...are they what I'm looking for? What about Gentleman Jack?

I understand you're looking for bourbon, and this thread will give you plenty of suggestions, but what's wrong with Crown Royal Special Reserve?

I have a bottle. It is excellent.


I already have that, and a bottle of Johnnie Walker Green, and a bottle of Islay Cask Strength. I'm looking for a bourbon in that same general range, to flesh out my own little World of Whiskey.
 
2008-11-01 01:57:07 PM  
When you have to have the very best, nothing tops Pappy Van Winkle 20 year old. If you can find it, and afford $90, you will not regret spending it.
 
2008-11-01 02:00:01 PM  
flaming99: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: /Yes, I know that Jack is a Tennessee whiskey, and I know that alot of critics don't like it, but the only critic that matters is me and I know what I like and don't give a damn if other people don't care for what I am drinking. Give me Gentleman Jack straight up out of the freezer, Single barrel Jack at room temperature straight up or with 2 cubes, or black Jack any way it can be served.
//Bourbon is good but Scotch is better:)

My ex-wife always raved about gentleman jack so I bought her a bottle for her b-day years ago. Opened the bottle and spent the rest of the night trying to figure out what smelled like dirty feet - turns out it was her $30 bottle of whiskey. Never tried the stuff again.


Yeah, people either like it or they hate it... you sacrifice some strength of flavor for the smoothness. I keep it in the freezer with the Bombay Sapphire, silver Patron, and Jaeger. Those are the ones that I can drink alot of pretty fast. Everything else I have is either a sipper or a mixer.
 
2008-11-01 02:01:28 PM  
Cataholic: When you have to have the very best, nothing tops Pappy Van Winkle 20 year old. If you can find it, and afford $90, you will not regret spending it.

I have had that and the 23 and both are great as a special occasion kinda thing.
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Not bad as a daily and costs about the same as Blantons around here.
 
2008-11-01 02:05:40 PM  
Chasing Whiskey?
 
2008-11-01 02:07:47 PM  
For you Colorado Farkers, I strongly recommend trying Stranahan's (new window)

Not technically a bourbon, but very similar and very tasty.
 
2008-11-01 02:14:10 PM  
What was that stuff Willie Nelson had something to do with, I don't remember what it as called. I never had it but was curious.
 
2008-11-01 02:38:29 PM  
I'd like to recommend a great bourbon that I think is maybe underpriced. It's Eagle Rare - a 10 year old single barrel bourbon and it's quite nice. You can buy it for around 35 bucks a bottle - great stuff.
 
2008-11-01 03:11:12 PM  
www.whiskeywise.com
 
2008-11-01 03:37:47 PM  
w_houle: What was that stuff Willie Nelson had something to do with, I don't remember what it as called. I never had it but was curious.

Pot?

/What? I'm a George Dickel fan.
//It may be liquid stupid in a bottle, but it gets you fifty-seven flavors of farked-up
 
2008-11-01 04:25:36 PM  
Weller 107 has been my favorite for many years now.

Sadly I am rather poor now and usually wind up with Rebel Yell which isn't bad for a budget bourbon.
 
2008-11-01 04:27:33 PM  
lizardcowgal: Oh good bourbon, how I love thee....Makers, Knob Creek, Woodford Reserve, or the REALLY good stuff that I can't afford even for special occasions (I'm a college students so I usually buy a handle of Jim Beam when its on sale and call that good). I love me some Makers. Kentucky Margaritas and Kentucky Cocktails (Ale-8 and Makers) are some of my all time favorite drinks. Basically I love bourbon. Love love love.

Woodford Reserve is my top pick, but you've got some excellent taste.

I was first introduced to Ale-8 & Bourbon with the name "Kentucky Mother farker."
 
2008-11-01 04:32:59 PM  
Kurohone:

I already have that, and a bottle of Johnnie Walker Green, and a bottle of Islay Cask Strength. I'm looking for a bourbon in that same general range, to flesh out my own little World of Whiskey.


If you can find it, I'd recommend Jim Beam Choice. It has a green label and is priced somewhere between Beam white and Beam black, but if I could only drink one liquid for the rest of my life, it would be Beam Choice. Including water.

I'm not sure what's different about it, but it could be the crud from the distillery bilge pumped into a bottle and it would still be my pick.
 
2008-11-01 04:34:58 PM  
I used to work with a guy named Kevin Smith.

He was very tall, had a large, squarish head and beady eyes hidden behind thick glasses. He always walked with an exaggerated swing to his step, like he had a secret.

He had photos of his wife and kids on his desk. His daughter, who was about my age, had her own separate frame--the fanciest one he had, on prominent display.

He used to flirt with me.

/it was terrifying
 
2008-11-01 04:36:08 PM  
I love me some Maker's Mark.

/sweet netcar of the gods
//put in a bottle just for me
///Woodford and Booker's are also very good, but Maker's is where it's at.
 
2008-11-01 04:38:33 PM  
trancemission: For you Colorado Farkers, I strongly recommend trying Stranahan's (new window)

Not technically a bourbon, but very similar and very tasty.


I tried it and didn't like it... and it's quite pricey. I think it's technically a single malt but not marketed as one. I'll stick with Maker's.
 
2008-11-01 04:48:42 PM  
rico567: tdpatriots12: (pic of Knob Creek bottle)

THIS

Well.....this now that all the old regular names have just become rotgut (literally can't stomach things like Jim Beam, etc. any more), and my favorite back in the day, J.W. Dant 100 proof, is now made of unobtanium.


MMMM J.W. Dant. I used to love that stuff. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

/Prefer Irish whiskey now.
/Jameson 12 year old.
 
2008-11-01 05:08:32 PM  
katylan: PI Staker & Otto Bull~
We are talking about Bourbon is this thread. Jack is a Tennessee sipping whiskey and it is rated one of the worst by the Beverage Tasting Institute of America and the SanFransico Worlds. You both must like your whiskey filtered through charcoal in order to get a flavor and a color. I prefer the old fashioned way...AGING in the barrel. SHEEP! Advertising works on you!


What the Fark does San Francisco have to do with Bourbon, anyway?? Perhaps y'all should stick to your white wines and greyhounds...

(just kidding, actually. Thought this thread was WAY too civilized)...
 
2008-11-01 05:16:06 PM  
katylan: Small Batch is better: Knob Creek, Bakers, Basil Haydens and Bookers. Bookers is the best!

Yes, oh yes.

Bookers......
 
2008-11-01 05:58:07 PM  
jdemanon: Pappy Van Winkle FTW!!

Their 20 year old Family Reserve is amazing.
It is also quite expensive
 
2008-11-01 06:59:37 PM  
Bought a bottle of Knob Creek today based on a Fark thread. How sad am I?


/yum a dum dum
//moral of the story: Not all farkers are morons.
 
2008-11-01 07:41:48 PM  
krusader3z: Was doing shots of Makers Mark last night.

This is a serious criminal offense. Sorry. Good bourbon is meant to be slowly enjoyed. Ideally over ice or 1 Bourbon 4 Parts Ginger Ale.

Save the shots for shiatty brand of Tequila and Jaegermeister.
 
2008-11-01 08:30:27 PM  
Wood Res is good, but a little inconsistent. Knob Creek I really don't care for. It is not bad, just not to my tastes. Same with Booker's. Maker's is more than just good, it is friendly. This particular balance between smoothness, flavor, and warmth is perhaps what Silly_Sot was confusing with "middle of the road banality", which is entirely inaccurate.

/Maker's Mark...I'm soaking in it.
 
2008-11-01 10:47:08 PM  
Oh, and if anyone is ever in Portland, Clyde Commons in the Ace Hotel has a great selections of whisk(e)ys. Maybe the best in the NW. This is especially good to know if you're not a big beer person since Portland is a beer town.
 
2008-11-01 11:04:54 PM  
Makers Mark has a great marketing department and so-so bourbon. It is a very popular gateway bourbon for many who eventually turn in to enthusiasts. Same goes for the Beam Small Batch collection (Bookers/Bakers/Basil Haydens/Knob Creek).

To some, Woodford Reserve has an off metallic taste, almost like you're sucking on a penny. It definitely hits me the wrong way.

If you want consistently great product, shoot for anything in the Van Winkle or Weller lines (both are wheated bourbons so they are sweeter but not syrupy). The Weller 12 is a great pour as well as is the Van Winkle Lot B.

Do you want an impressive high proofer? Look for George T. Stagg. The 2007 bottling was a lusty 144.8 proof and the 2008 is 142.4. Just don't let your doofus roomie chug it or he'll end up in the ER.

Great bourbon on a budget? J.T.S.Brown 100 proof and Very Old Barton 100 proof. Rittenhouse Rye 100 proof is a superb budget straight rye. All can be had for less than 20 bucks and in most markets, less than 15. All should be cheaper than Beam white at your local retailer.
 
2008-11-01 11:13:43 PM  
Dang, I forgot a couple others.

Buffalo Trace is a great pour in the low 20's for a 750. If you want to dabble in a good single barrel bourbon, seek out Four Roses. It's only available in 12 states (give or take) but it is a prime example of a solid rye recipe bourbon.

Just remember that single barrel is a regulated term in the bourbon industry, but small batch isn't. A distillery could dump 5, 50 or 250 barrels and call their product a small batch, but single barrel means single barrel.

/bourbon geek
//too many bottles in my collection
///Makers isn't one of them
 
2008-11-02 12:04:35 AM  
callmeox: Great bourbon on a budget?

Yes please.

/Great post!
//Likes Eagle Rare
 
2008-11-02 06:52:38 AM  
w_houle: I'm surprised noone mentioned W.L. Weller 107 Proopf

Old Weller is alright too

/miss Old Grandad though
 
2008-11-02 07:56:13 AM  
Makers Mark is a really mediocre bourbon. Buffalo Trace is a great, dependable bourbon that actually tastes good and isn't all hype. All of the other Buffalo Trace distillery brands are quality, too.
 
2008-11-02 11:23:17 AM  
Callmeox~
Beam started the Super Premium Bourbon category with the Small Batch Collection. 6th generation great grandson of Jacob Beam, Booker Noe, created Bookers- uncut and unfiltered from the center cut of the rackhouse, aged 6-8 years at 126.7 proof. Without this distinction you wouldn't have the pathetic Woodford Reserve, JD Single Barrel or the others. He literally started this category. To say that KInob, Basil, Bakers and Bookers have great ad campaigns behind them, you are wrong. They hardly ever advertise anything other than the gateway whiskey, Knob Creek. Get your facts straight.
 
2008-11-02 01:01:36 PM  
First off, the gateway bourbon comment was aimed at the SBC, not the marketing part. After I posted the comment, I saw that I wasn't clear there. Many people (myself included) have started down the bourbon trail after seeing the Beam SBC in a bar (I saw it at a Fridays) and enjoyed the bourbon. This is what got me hooked.

I'm not going to get in to a Mac/PC type of flame war with you, but you're mistaken that the Beam SBC bottlings are considered to be "super premium". 80 proof Basil Haydens is overpriced for what you get (I believe that it's the same mash bill as Old Grand Dad, it just comes off the still and also goes in the barrel at a lower proof ). Knob Creek is essentially Beam Black with an extra year in the barrel and bottled at 100 proof. Bookers and Bakers are interesting products, but neither are enthusiast bottlings by any stretch. Recently, Beam has gotten more granular and has changed their processes so that they are barreling whiskey brand by brand (Knob Creek comes off the still at X proof and the barrel entry is Y proof) so that you will see barrels in their warehouse marked as KC or Bookers or Bakers. This is a great sign that they are paying more attention to quality. It will be interesting to see if people notice when the new whiskey hits the shelves.

Would I turn any of the above whiskeys away if offered? No, they are all very drinkable. Of those above, the only one in my collection is a 375 of Knob Creek that Fred Noe signed for me at the Kentucky Bourbon Festival back in September (he's a great guy BTW).

The net/net is that Small Batch is a marketing term that Beam has used well, but it's not a standard.

If you want to dabble in the premium market, look for the Van Winkle products (stellar whiskey), the Buffalo Trace Antique Collection, Blanton's (the original single barrel bourbon), anything under the Willett label (by Kentucky Bourbon distillers). Heaven Hill Distilling has Elijiah Craig 18 yo, Evan Williams 23 and the recent William Heavenhill bottling. Wild Turkey has their Kentucky Spirit and American Sprit expressions that are both fantastic.

Four Roses has their single barrel product along with some yearly releases (Jim Rutledge's 40th anniversary unfiltered/barrel proof in 07, the Four Roses 120th Anniversary unfiltered/barrel proof collection in early 08 and now their Mariage collection which is a mingling of a number of the 10 different whiskeys that they make with 2 mash bills and 5 yeasts. All are superb whiskeys.

You can also add in the single barrel bottlings that many retailers offer of these product to the premium market and many of these don't come at a premium price. Places like Binny's Beverage Depot, Party Source, Julio's and a cadre of others will hand select a barrel to have the whiskey bottled specifically for their resale.

The point is that there's a huge world of bourbon beyond MM and the Beam SBC.
 
2008-11-02 02:28:38 PM  
Thanks for clearing that up. I know there is a world of bourbon outside of MM and SBC, I just think the small batch is the best. I suppose I am fiercely loyal to Beam brands because they have been making whiskey since 1795. An American company that has been around for 213 years is almost unheard of any longer. I like to buy American so I choose to spend my hard earned dollars on brands that belong to an American company. It also helps that they have some of the best brands in other spirit sectors as well. Pernod Ricard is a french company and they own Four Roses and Wild Turkey. Diageo is an English owned company and they own George Dickel, Bulliet, Bells, Crown ROyal and Bushmills. So, it's not just about the stuff inside the bottle for me (again, it's delicious), it's my simple way to be pro american.
 
2008-11-02 04:06:58 PM  
I understand where you're coming from here as I've encountered many others who feel the same way. Beam is a part of Beam Global which is in turn owned by Fortune Brands. Makers Mark is also owned by Fortune. Four Roses is actually owned by Kirin, but I understand that they are operated very autonomously.

The Heaven Hill brands are all American owned as well (Heaven Hill is a privately held, family owned company.) Kentucky Bourbon Distillers is as well.
 
2008-11-03 11:04:51 AM  
www.whiskeysammlung.de
 
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