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(NASA)   During the time it takes you to read this article, a magnetic portal will open linking Earth to the sun 93 million miles away. Yes really   (science.nasa.gov) divider line 47
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2008-11-01 04:35:37 AM  
If I understand this correctly the conduit itself doesn't reach all the way to the Sun just to the magnetopause?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2008-11-01 05:09:24 AM  
I think that's right. Conditions near the sun are unaffected by earth. Fields over that distance would need a lot more than eight minutes to change if they were.
 
2008-11-01 05:42:57 AM  
Foaming: If I understand this correctly the conduit itself doesn't reach all the way to the Sun just to the magnetopause?

Yep, the way I understand it, the portal opens where the two magnetic fields meet.
 
2008-11-01 05:45:07 AM  
For people who don't understand the science, these portals are a series of tubes.
 
2008-11-01 07:15:41 AM  
Merkin For The Weekend: For people who don't understand the science, these portals are a series of tubes.

And magnetopause, that's when the magnetic field stops ovulating?

/Confused
//Not really: wiseass
 
2008-11-01 07:27:27 AM  
Goa'uld activity not the cause of the portal from the sun to Earth, says SGC
 
2008-11-01 07:58:00 AM  
FTA: There are many unanswered questions: Why do the portals form every 8 minutes?

Coincidence that the sun happens to be 8 light-minutes away?
 
2008-11-01 08:00:22 AM  
img2.timeinc.net

not impressed.
 
2008-11-01 08:06:50 AM  
This diagram isn't helping me much, they need to label which is the pirate which is the and warming axis.

science.nasa.gov
 
2008-11-01 08:18:01 AM  
HagarTheHorrible: FTA: There are many unanswered questions: Why do the portals form every 8 minutes?

Coincidence that the sun happens to be 8 light-minutes away?


Probably not. But whereas that's very suggestive, it doesn't reveal the actual mechanism.
 
2008-11-01 08:21:58 AM  
science.nasa.gov

Based on this chart and the colours, this looks like bad news... for Obama.
 
2008-11-01 08:37:45 AM  
Headline disappointed me, took me significantly less than 8 minutes to read the article.
 
2008-11-01 08:42:04 AM  
So hypothetically could we make use of this knowledge to more directly tap the energy of the sun? Perhaps with a satellite in a closer orbit that establishes an artificial FTE and extracts/stores energy from the high transfer particle influx?
 
2008-11-01 08:48:36 AM  
Zamboro: So hypothetically could we make use of this knowledge to more directly tap the energy of the sun? Perhaps with a satellite in a closer orbit that establishes an artificial FTE and extracts/stores energy from the high transfer particle influx?

Maybe. You'd still have to get the energy down to the Earth's surface. I suppose you could use the old Science Fiction favorite, beaming microwave energy to collectors on Earth.
 
2008-11-01 09:04:36 AM  
St_Francis_P -- popcorn?

Also, awesome idea for a Bond movie.
 
2008-11-01 09:10:27 AM  
PartTimeBuddha: St_Francis_P -- popcorn?

Also, awesome idea for a Bond movie.


Well...it can be done safely, although it would take some engineering. The control system to aim the microwaves would have to be pretty darn foolproof. And you might want to place your collectors in an uninhabited area.
 
2008-11-01 09:32:53 AM  
Finally, a source of the 1.21 gigawatts needed for the flux capacitor.
 
2008-11-01 10:01:18 AM  
science.nasa.gov

The only thing missing in this chart is the wedding ring.
 
2008-11-01 10:05:08 AM  
"Momentum, a function of mass and velocity, is conserved between portals. In layman's terms, speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out."
 
2008-11-01 10:25:23 AM  
fascinating
 
2008-11-01 10:25:38 AM  
So THAT's why we have global warming!
 
2008-11-01 10:26:24 AM  
www.ohgizmo.com

Problem solved.
 
2008-11-01 10:26:31 AM  
www.stuffwelike.com

Now THAT'S thinking with Portals!!!

/hotlinked for her pleasure
 
2008-11-01 10:40:15 AM  
Glasgowsfinest: Foaming: If I understand this correctly the conduit itself doesn't reach all the way to the Sun just to the magnetopause?

Yep, the way I understand it, the portal opens where the two magnetic fields meet.


I suspect not because they don't meet at a point. The normal fields drop off with a typical r^2 but these are tightly coupled. The radio astronomy guys have been noticing odd things going on starting about a decade ago and it had been getting worse but I haven't heard anything lately (which implies its not getting worse at a higher rate). The initial events correlate to changes in the Earth's magnetic field near Perth and the lack of rain that started at the same time. I suspect they may be related but that is unsubstantiated and borders on heresy in the church of co2 prohibition so I don't expect anyone who is worried about their budget to look into it much.
 
2008-11-01 11:32:06 AM  
so what? it happens, but what is the significance
 
2008-11-01 11:59:13 AM  
i was hoping for workholes
 
2008-11-01 12:01:19 PM  
FTA: There are many unanswered questions: Why do the portals form every 8 minutes?

It seems to me that a good place to start might be the transit-time of light from sun --> earth (8 minutes).
 
2008-11-01 12:01:26 PM  
Open_Mouth_Inert_Foot: i was hoping for workholes

wormholes, i can't type today
 
2008-11-01 12:54:30 PM  
i'm having a hard time believing that it takes anybody 8 minutes to read that short article.
 
2008-11-01 02:14:27 PM  
those fools! they must've divided by zero!
 
2008-11-01 02:17:36 PM  
DON.MAC: The initial events correlate to changes in the Earth's magnetic field near Perth and the lack of rain that started at the same time.

Perth and ... ?
 
2008-11-01 03:09:12 PM  
No real story here. Just some dud in a Guardian doing a little maintenance on something on the other side of the star.
 
2008-11-01 04:02:16 PM  
www.fantasticfiction.co.uk
/linked-hot, like the sun
 
2008-11-01 04:13:56 PM  
I saw aarond12's post but I still can't believe it took this long for someone to point out that the cake is a lie.
 
2008-11-01 04:55:21 PM  
www.sliceofscifi.com
 
2008-11-01 04:57:04 PM  
FTA: There are many unanswered questions: Why do the portals form every 8 minutes?"

Isn't that the amount of time it takes for the sun's light to reach Earth? Granted, I'm trying to recall some random fact I learned in grade school, but there just might be some kind of relation to that.
 
2008-11-01 06:54:17 PM  
"Ten years ago I was pretty sure they didn't exist, but now the evidence is incontrovertible."

There's no need for the jury to retire.
 
2008-11-01 07:26:55 PM  
bud jones: i'm having a hard time believing that it takes anybody 8 minutes to read that short article.

This is what I was thinking. Although I was going to be mean about it and say that anyone who took that long to read the article has too many chromosomes or something.
 
2008-11-01 08:04:37 PM  
how does this fit into the climate models? like high energy particles from the solar wind blowing straight into our upper atmosphere must do something to the global climate, right?
 
2008-11-01 08:59:28 PM  
RoxtarRyan: www.sliceofscifi.com

Hmm. I never noticed there were 9 chevrons on the stargate. I just went "WTF, how is that stargate active with only 5 chevrons...oooh"

/yea, I know 8th/9th chevrons takes you outside the galaxy
//unhappy to SG:A going away, undecided on SG:U
 
2008-11-01 09:36:19 PM  
some_random_guy: /yea, I know 8th/9th chevrons takes you outside the galaxy

Actually, that's just the 8th chevron. It's unclear from canon sources what the 9th chevron does, although there's a fanfic tradition that says that the 9th chevron, when engaged, emits a strange telepathic ray that turns Amanda Tapping and Claudia Black into sex-craved bi-curious nymphomaniacs.
 
2008-11-01 09:39:20 PM  
Sibeck...anyone else read this as Spock?
 
2008-11-01 10:24:20 PM  
RoxtarRyan: FTA: There are many unanswered questions: Why do the portals form every 8 minutes?"

Isn't that the amount of time it takes for the sun's light to reach Earth? Granted, I'm trying to recall some random fact I learned in grade school, but there just might be some kind of relation to that.


Ok, it takes 8 minutes for light to reach the earth from the sun, so what?

The sun doesn't give off bursts of light every 8 minutes, its not on a timer, the light is never-stopping. If the sun gave off a burst of light every 8 minutes then there may be a correlation.

I don't see how "light takes 8 minutes to reach earth" would be relevant to this discussion.
 
2008-11-01 11:32:37 PM  
Bacontastesgood: bud jones: i'm having a hard time believing that it takes anybody 8 minutes to read that short article.

This is what I was thinking. Although I was going to be mean about it and say that anyone who took that long to read the article has too many chromosomes or something.


Stop talking. I'm not done yet.
 
kab
2008-11-03 12:31:16 AM  
"Ten years ago I was pretty sure they didn't exist, but now the evidence is incontrovertible."

I'll have to remember this one for the next science vs. religion thread, where some diehard insists that things don't exist if there's no proof yet.
 
2008-11-03 02:29:39 AM  
scifipedia.scifi.com

Approves
 
2008-11-03 09:34:08 AM  
starsrift: Headline disappointed me, took me significantly less than 8 minutes to read the article.

but if there were only 2 minutes until the next portal when you started reading, then jesus' mothership still read your thoughts.
 
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