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2008-10-31 11:43:52 AM
I just came to say to the diehard republicans who NEED to troll, constantly, in order to take their mind off their party's disgusting failure:

Most of us no longer feel the need to refute your constant stream of garbage. The election is basically done. Kthxbye
 
2008-10-31 11:44:03 AM
I_C_Weener: Maxor: Reading try it sometime 8th paragraph. "On Tuesday, an estimated 5,000 lawyers and law students supporting Obama will fan out across Florida to monitor polling sites and assist voters, especially in minority, elderly and heavily Democratic precincts. " Don't be an idiot.

So, what you are saying is that these lawyers who are there to ensure fair voting are only ensuring fair voting for Democrats.



No I was telling pocket ninja to actually read the article sometime and directly quoting it after he said the number 5000 didn't appear. Now I have questions about party motivated lawyers and legal students offering assistance to confused voters at any polling place regardless of party. Personal feeling, is if you aren't capable of figuring out how to vote properly your vote probably shouldn't be counted.

I don't care about your sex or race when you vote, but I'm a big fan of landowners only and a small poll tax. Honestly I see people who throw money at a failing school system in the city I live that are renters who vote in almost every school levy. They don't pay property taxes directly so they don't think it effects them. Last year there was a rent control measure that was very narrowly defeated. This when the school district has in the last 10 years had over 30 million dollars disappear due to bad accounting but they want more. They have also reported over $3 million in equipment losses due to shrinkage from employee's but not one person has been punished for it. But polls show that this years school levy for registered voters should pass easily. (throwing more money at the problem hasn't solved it in the last decade.) The poll of likely voters has it passing but its much closer.


/me hate both parties lets honestly support one of the third party choices fully to just get the big two to actually listen to voters.
//Third parties have a catch 22 in that people don't vote for them because they can't succeed but they can't succeeed because no one votes for them.
 
2008-10-31 11:44:19 AM
What a sad, stupid state to have importance in an election.

Let's cut it off and give it to Cuba.
 
2008-10-31 11:44:35 AM
libbynomore2: Obama's new world order:

using Government resources to look for dirt on an average American who had the nerve to ask him a question he didn't like.

Censoring media outlets who ask he or his running mate tough questions.

Now, throwing reporters off of his plane because their paper's endorsed someone else.

and this type of leftist fascism will only get worse.


Your fear, it smells wonderful, like bacon. I wonder if your tears match.
 
2008-10-31 11:44:54 AM
cousin-merle: vonster: I'll shut up now.

That's a better idea than digging yourself into the same holes everyone else does. Democrats wouldn't need to send lawyers to all these states if Republicans were comfortable letting black people vote. You'd think they would have gotten over it after 139 years.


sableverity.files.wordpress.com
 
2008-10-31 11:45:32 AM
sckonkh:

The most amazing thing is there are 5000 lawyers which nothing better to do. Apparently murder got put on the back burner.

There are many breeds among the species. You don't tote St. Bernards in a handbag and you don't send Chihuahuas on Alpine rescue missions.
 
2008-10-31 11:46:10 AM
Maxor: I don't care about your sex or race when you vote, but I'm a big fan of landowners only and a small poll tax.

Humor me for a moment: do you get turgid when you hear the word "vassal"?
 
2008-10-31 11:46:23 AM
Thune: If for nothing more, to see the throngs of crazipeople in the streets setting the world on fire.

Oddly enough, that's one of the reasons why I want to see Obama win.
 
2008-10-31 11:47:02 AM
kronicfeld: Glasgowsfinest: When my Dad passed away earlier in the year, we needed a lawyer to help with his estate. The farking parasite tried to charge us £6,000. I needed another lawyer to point out that the first one was out of order, and THAT cost me £1,500.

Wherever there is human misery, there will be a lawyer not far away.

Yeah, and talk about those asshole doctors who charge thousands of dollars for their services too. Bunch of leeching parasites, the lot.


It's not the doctors, it's the hospitals. Doctor's bills (you have to sort out their charges from the rest) are usually very reasonable, in my opinion. It's the $500 for bandages and $6000 for an IV that are unreasonable, and the doctor has nothing to do with those rates.

And yes, the hospitals are leeching parasites.
 
2008-10-31 11:47:13 AM
libbynomore2: Censoring media outlets who ask he or his running mate tough questions

Yeah. Because you'd feel the same way if a reporter asked John McCain about being brainwashed by the North Vietnamese or Sarah Palin about her autographed edition of "Mein Kampf."
 
2008-10-31 11:47:41 AM
kronicfeld: Mugato: No, everyone pretty much despises them then too.

This is the same pool of "everyone" that makes American Idol the number one show on television, elected George W. Bush president and keeps Michael Bay making movies. I don't really mind being "despised" by the teeming throngs of morons and speds out there, as being admired by them would clearly be a rather dubious distinction.


oh SNAP
 
2008-10-31 11:47:54 AM
IXI Jim IXI: Thune: If for nothing more, to see the throngs of crazipeople in the streets setting the world on fire.

Oddly enough, that's one of the reasons why I want to see Obama win.


No matter who wins we all lose.
 
2008-10-31 11:48:02 AM
Old Billy was right let's kill all the lawyers...kill 'em tonight...
 
2008-10-31 11:48:41 AM
The same people who constantly rag on lawyers -- especially trial lawyers -- hire the best they can afford when they get in trouble themselves. When was the last time you saw some corporate type defending *himself* in court?

Regarding Florida -- From his actions so far, I would imagine Charlie Crist won't tolerate the sort of shenanigans Jeb Bush encouraged in 2000. Crist has further ambitions, and that means distancing himself from the GOP vote-suppression strategy.
 
2008-10-31 11:48:47 AM
baked beans:
I've often wondered why someone would purposely choose a profession that is so universally despised by most of the public.

You're right, everyone should make their determination of pursuing a particular profession based purely on the level of ignorance of strangers.

Many lawyers work their asses off, and worked their asses off just to get there. Sure there are some douchey lawyers. But there are also apparently some very douchey...what is it that you do for a living?
 
2008-10-31 11:49:15 AM
I had someone on another popular site tell me that I was an ignorant fool because I think that Obama is a socialist with his money redistribution plan. He claimed that Obama is actually right of middle and McCain was pandering to the extreme neocon right.
 
2008-10-31 11:49:31 AM
When my fiancé and I went to vote yesterday, we knew they would give us grief. We have moved to a different county (from Tarrant to Dallas) and had our drivers licenses changed, but that doesn't change out your registration (stupid freaking laws that discourage voting). Changing your address via post office and getting a new D.L. doesn't swap out your voter card in Texas. It has to be individually requested and if you don't change your address by October 1st it can cause you to be disqualified to vote.

Anyways, I know that when this scenario happens, you simply sign a form that declares your new address to be valid and that if you are voting for city council or mayor, that portion of the ballot is not counted (because you don't live in that city/county anymore).

Well the line moves, the people ahead of us apparently are in the same situation and the pollsters turn them away. You can't vote. They try to explain, are denied and have to walk off. I move up in the line and let the blue haired pollsters know we are in the same boat as the previous people, however all we need to do is sign the address declaration. They look at me like I was crazy. The lady started typing, called her other blue-hair friends around. As they start to tell me no, I can't vote this year and that I would need a utility statement, my S.S. card and drivers licences to vote next time my fiancé ran to get the couple that were just turned away.

I pulled out my phone and let them know I have saved the Tarrant County Voters hotline and we can call together. I was prepared, knew they would give us grief and came armed. I had a copy of the form (available online) the direct number to the county voters office and was not leaving until I voted. (No, I wasn't being a douche to them, but if you are running a poll area, you should freaking know the rules!)

The previous couple, my fiancé and I were able to cast our ballots. I was so angry that these people have been running early voting for a week now, and act like what I am telling them is something NO ONE has ever said.

How many people have been denied? Hiring old folks and homeless to run polling stations is not right. Sigh.
 
2008-10-31 11:49:31 AM
mksmith: Regarding Florida -- From his actions so far, I would imagine Charlie Crist won't tolerate the sort of shenanigans Jeb Bush encouraged in 2000. Crist has further ambitions, and that means distancing himself from the GOP vote-suppression strategy.

Plus, his brother isn't running. No conflict of interest there ...
 
2008-10-31 11:49:45 AM
I_C_Weener: Even the Wizard of Id agrees. Not all bad voting is illegal voting.

I can tell by the pixels.
 
2008-10-31 11:50:11 AM
kronicfeld:

Humor me for a moment: do you get turgid when you hear the word "vassal"?

i101.photobucket.com

Wassal?

/serf's up
 
2008-10-31 11:50:46 AM
vonster:

www.mrdowling.com (new window)
 
2008-10-31 11:51:02 AM
thepostess [TotalFark] 2008-10-31 09:22:22 AM
"... and I do think visible lawyers may cause controversy at some point. Don't you?"

I didn't realize lawyers were such an easily identifiable minority group.
 
2008-10-31 11:51:19 AM
SacriliciousBeerSwiller: baked beans:
I've often wondered why someone would purposely choose a profession that is so universally despised by most of the public.

You're right, everyone should make their determination of pursuing a particular profession based purely on the level of ignorance of strangers.

Many lawyers work their asses off, and worked their asses off just to get there. Sure there are some douchey lawyers. But there are also apparently some very douchey...what is it that you do for a living?


I have this theory that if everyone likes every decision you make at work you probably are not making decisions that effect anyone but yourself.
 
2008-10-31 11:53:17 AM
I_C_Weener: So, what you are saying is that these lawyers who are there to ensure fair voting are only ensuring fair voting for Democrats.

Well, they're from the Obama campaign, what do you expect? Plus most of the past Republican voter suppression has been among first-time voters and the elderly in heavily Democratic areas.

If Republicans want to make sure the 10 voters in their districts are counted, they can send hordes of lawyers, too.
 
2008-10-31 11:54:41 AM
DFWPhotoGuy: How many people have been denied? Hiring old folks and homeless Republicans to run polling stations is not right. Sigh.

FTFY.
 
2008-10-31 11:56:00 AM
cousin-merle: vonster: I'll shut up now.

That's a better idea than digging yourself into the same holes everyone else does. Democrats wouldn't need to send lawyers to all these states if Republicans were comfortable letting black people vote. You'd think they would have gotten over it after 139 years.



Ah guess what Republican administrations with republican leaning congresses are the ones that ended slavery and enacted the amendments enabling blacks to vote. During the reconstruction and through the majority of the 20th century blacks were repressed in the heavily democrat south. It was the democrats becoming essentially socialist in the 70's that turned them into the party the "blacks" (which is wrong many coloured Americans vote based on principals and canidate not party and some who vote only on party vote republican) with the strong and recent memory of democrat presidents supporting the civil rights movement and pandering with socail programs to poor inner-city minorities.

So no for about 80 to 85 of the past 139 years blacks were a big republican block not democrat that turn of events has been recent.
 
2008-10-31 11:57:04 AM
I_C_Weener: Antimatter: Considering that the GOP cheated many thousands of Dems out of their votes in the last cycles, I'd say these lawyers are going to the right place.

Hahahahaha. No matter how the votes were counted in Florida, Gore loses. Every single study proved that. But keep up the myth. Its entertaining.


i121.photobucket.com

Link (new window)
 
2008-10-31 11:58:05 AM
filth: citation needed, asshole.

Citation provided, asshole
 
2008-10-31 11:58:21 AM
Antimatter: So why send a false mob made of staffers to stop recounts? Why do a last minute purge of thousands of voters from the rolls?

You are right. Absence of evidence is evidence.
 
2008-10-31 11:59:04 AM
Voter fraud is a GOP core competency, they are very good at it.
If you can't win an election, steal it.
There were rumors that GW was very calm on election night 2000, he knew it was in the bag. That or his mind was elsewhere.
 
2008-10-31 11:59:20 AM
Maxor: It was the democrats becoming essentially socialist in the 70's that turned them into the party the "blacks" (which is wrong many coloured Americans vote based on principals and canidate not party and some who vote only on party vote republican) with the strong and recent memory of democrat presidents supporting the civil rights movement and pandering with socail programs to poor inner-city minorities.

Actually, the Democrats turned socialist in the 1930s with Roosevelt.
 
2008-10-31 11:59:55 AM
DarkJohnson: Isn't November the start of Obamafest?

Don't worry, they won't be needed.

The scent of a massive movement of earth in the air.


Dude,

It's people like YOU... that make me realize I can't read Fark at work because I laugh so loud everyone wants to know why I'm laughing until i cry.
Nice work.
 
2008-10-31 12:00:09 PM
The Icelander: Actually, the Democrats turned socialist in the 1930s with Roosevelt.

*sigh*
 
2008-10-31 12:00:45 PM
FTA: Republican lawyers, though gearing up more discreetly, say they will have poll watchers - 500 in Broward alone - to act as their campaign's "eyes and ears" and report irregularities to party headquarters.

subby: 5,000 Obama lawyers head to Florida.

PITA: Neutral?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Fark you, mods, fark the PITA, and fark FARK!!!1!eleventy!
 
2008-10-31 12:00:52 PM
robot monkey: The election is basically done. Kthxbye


Not until Tuesday night, so GO VOTE.
 
2008-10-31 12:02:12 PM
cousin-merle: vonster:

(new window)


That'd be bad if it really was a racist e-mail instead of just mooks like you calling it that. If a Republican mentions black people...

www.ep.tc
 
2008-10-31 12:04:13 PM
I_C_Weener: Send lawyers, guns and money.

Warren Zevon FTW! (pops, like a havana taxi)
 
2008-10-31 12:04:31 PM
The Icelander: filth: citation needed, asshole.

Citation provided, asshole


From truthout? Your word is probably more reliable. Why hasn't any investigation concluded that suppression has changed the outcome of an election? I mean, if the GOP is so evil, shouldn't it have better success? All that suppression didn't do much good in 2006. The USCCR held months of hearings in 2000-2001 and couldn't find so much as ONE person affected. You're just full of shiat, and your partisan assbaggery would be really bad for the country if your opinion mattered to anyone.
 
2008-10-31 12:04:57 PM
kronicfeld: Maxor: I don't care about your sex or race when you vote, but I'm a big fan of landowners only and a small poll tax.

Humor me for a moment: do you get turgid when you hear the word "vassal"?


Nope but if you are voting to make others spend money without costing you anything or are actively working to ensure that those costs won't be passed onto you then you aren't deciding what is best for society you are voting for your own pocketbook. Its the same idea as voting for the guy who will give you money. It sorta makes sense to but long run there is no incentive for the guys with money to continue earning it if it gets taken away and given to others. An economy without earners will fail.

Vassels are the exact opposite a group of workers having their funds being taken away by a non-earning elite. Though mostly the nobility was there as protection from outside invaders and a peace keeping force in theory. Fuedalism was more of a protection racket in practice.
 
2008-10-31 12:04:59 PM
"The object is to make sure that every voter, Republican and Democrat alike, who shows up at the polls on Election Day is able to vote," said Broward attorney Charles Lichtman, in charge of Florida Democrats' legal effort.


yeah...libertarians, greens, and other members of other parties don't even warrant a mention and probably shouldn't even bother trying to get their voice heard.

disgusted with both repubs (parents) and dems (wife and in-laws).
 
2008-10-31 12:05:01 PM
give me doughnuts: UNC_Samurai: Mugato: keylock71: Everybody despises lawyers until they need one

No, everyone pretty much despises them then too.

We tried to revoke their rights as citizens once. Damn, how'd we screw that up?

Because over 90% of Congress used to be lawyers.


Not when the amendment was proposed.
 
2008-10-31 12:05:40 PM
Ontos: Flargan: Can we send in the clowns instead?

Isn't that what we're talking about?


img207.imageshack.us
Dems already did the clown thing once.
 
2008-10-31 12:05:46 PM
I find it interesting how everyone likes to rag on lawyers.
It's real easy to hate them...until you suddenly need one.
Don't forget, you are not nearly qualified enough to bring any kind of civil litigation against a business that screws you over, you need a lawyer.

/Lawyer's son
//couldn't be more proud
 
2008-10-31 12:06:25 PM
I_C_Weener: Antimatter: So why send a false mob made of staffers to stop recounts? Why do a last minute purge of thousands of voters from the rolls?

You are right. Absence of evidence is evidence.


i121.photobucket.com

The GOP knew they were in trouble, and resorted to jackbooted tactics.
 
2008-10-31 12:06:25 PM
U.S. OUT OF FLORIDA!!!!
 
2008-10-31 12:06:38 PM
All that howling about ACORN and early voting? Yeah. They're laying the groundwork for a shiatstorm of lawsuits.
 
2008-10-31 12:06:46 PM
vonster: cousin-merle: vonster

Oh gee THAT convinces me. I'll shut up now.




You know that's an actual book, right?

Written by an actual Republican operative who went to jail for election fraud. Not a photoshop.

Link (new window)


In other words, your guys have actually been caught red-handed.
 
2008-10-31 12:07:18 PM
The Icelander: DFWPhotoGuy: How many people have been denied? Hiring old folks and homeless Republicans to run polling stations is not right. Sigh.

FTFY.


I agree i was trying to beat around the bush without out-right saying it. But it was pretty obvious.
 
2008-10-31 12:07:38 PM
My mistake.

Flimflam men are merely greedy.

Obama is much worse.
 
2008-10-31 12:08:21 PM
99% of the lawyers give the rest a bad name
 
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