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2008-10-27 09:15:46 AM  
LOL HE'S OLD HE HAS TEH OLD TIMERS SYNDROME!
 
2008-10-27 09:47:29 AM  
It's one thing to substitute one word when you mean another, especially when speaking off-the-cuff. It's another thing to forget an idea or part of an idea. He was really grasping for that 5th name and couldn't focus on the next question.

That's okay for grandpa whose trying to get the kid's names straight. It's not okay for a world leader.
 
2008-10-27 09:56:24 AM  
he shouldve just said "That other one"
 
2008-10-27 09:59:24 AM  
Having the support of Kissinger is nothing to be proud of, anyway.
 
2008-10-27 10:00:00 AM  
Wow, five Republican secretaries of state endorsing a republican. Wow. One of whom helped Bush push through the election in 2000. I am stunned.

Seems like there's one - probably the most respected - who came out for Obama, but his name escapes me.
 
2008-10-27 10:00:36 AM  
I would have just said "all of them" and not said any names if I could remember them all.
 
2008-10-27 10:01:22 AM  

Mnemia: Having the support of Kissinger is nothing to be proud of, anyway.


It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.
 
2008-10-27 10:01:44 AM  
...and NOW we know why Bush just invented middle school names for all the people he had to converse with.
 
2008-10-27 10:01:58 AM  
He forgot a name, it happens.

/Both politicians have made some gaffes this election, this one ranks near the bottom of the list.
 
2008-10-27 10:01:58 AM  
ahhhhhhh...uhh...ahhhh..umm, let me start over .....ahhhhh
 
2008-10-27 10:02:05 AM  
i don't really care if he can remember where his houses are, much less who is supporting him.

it's just kinda a cock move to say you're 'disappointed' in powell...for being disappointed in your own sorry ass campaign.
 
2008-10-27 10:02:42 AM  
Yay leftist hate! Taste just as great as Rightie hate, but with more gay marriage!

Mmm, nothing like a good Youtube smear to start the workweek.

/ Strongbad/Strongsad 2008!!
 
2008-10-27 10:02:50 AM  
Here's a serious question for Republicans: If this doesn't scare the hell out of you, I'd honestly like to know why.

At least Reagan had the decency to wait until he was almost out of office to start up with the Alzheimer's and dementia.
 
2008-10-27 10:02:57 AM  
Oh wow, who the fark cares? Dear lord people grasp to the dumbest bullshiat in this election. OMG BARACK IS FRIENDS WITH BILL AYERS; OMG MCCAIN ONCE BANGED DUBYA.
 
2008-10-27 10:02:58 AM  
You forgot polish Minister of Foreign Affairs Radosław Sikorski

/Can we still do "You forgot Poland" jokes?
 
2008-10-27 10:03:01 AM  
I watched this live & I totally missed it. I was too busy trying to figure out if he said 'yes' or 'well' at the beginning of the answer. It seems like the sort of question that's well suited to straight talk & not whargarbl.
 
2008-10-27 10:03:21 AM  
The big question is IS there a fifth name?
 
2008-10-27 10:04:02 AM  
"and, uh, ... and THAT ONE!"
 
2008-10-27 10:04:08 AM  
I am proud to have had the support of Secretary Elihu Root.

i12.photobucket.com
 
2008-10-27 10:04:19 AM  
I don't know about you, but I feel like this is the president this country deserves.
 
2008-10-27 10:04:26 AM  
In his defense, it's easy to forget Madeline Albright; she didn't get much done anyway.

/Well, maybe throw paper at the Serbs over Kosovo and give an autographed basketball to Kim Jong Il...
 
2008-10-27 10:04:43 AM  
Issues, issues, issues...!


HAHAH!

Good one, Dems!
 
2008-10-27 10:04:53 AM  
I thought he handled it well.
 
2008-10-27 10:05:25 AM  
McCain looks tired.
 
2008-10-27 10:05:30 AM  
What's his name, the one with the tatoo on his ass.... yeah him
 
2008-10-27 10:05:47 AM  
Oh my gawd, when I saw the "Ah, ah, ah...", which the republicans keep making fun of Obama for (farking schitzophrenic hypocrites), I thought they were saying that Kissinger was throwing his support behind Obama!!!

Nearly threw my computer out the window, because that is one conservative endorsement that is NOT welcome!
 
2008-10-27 10:05:57 AM  
And this job the guy is interviewing for is what now ? Is it a public speaking position ? Cause I don't think I would listen to a man like this with a tremendous amount of respect.
 
2008-10-27 10:06:24 AM  

Broadcastdave: he shouldve just said "That other one"


My 64-year-old mother is convinced that McCain forgetting Obamam's name lead to the "the other one" comment. She has senior moments and doesn't want a President who has them, too, so she is voting for Obama.
 
2008-10-27 10:06:25 AM  
This is bad news, for Obama.
 
2008-10-27 10:06:46 AM  
Isn't Henry Kissenger a war criminal?
 
2008-10-27 10:07:21 AM  
He also said 'Joe The Biden' earlier in the interview.
 
2008-10-27 10:07:27 AM  
I'm so proud to be endorsed by people whose names I can't remember.

This is as bad as Palin not being able to name any Supreme Court cases or any newspapers she reads regularly. Obviously McCain knew the name, but in a crisis the last thing you want is the President standing around going "Hmmm what did I walk in to the Oval Office for again?"
 
2008-10-27 10:07:39 AM  
He also has the support of a breathalyzer...I mean an inhilator...I mean, hold on. Wait. You're too loud, I can't hear myself think
 
2008-10-27 10:07:44 AM  
Oh, snap! He just lost my vote! Anybody who makes a mistake is unfit to be our new king God president.
 
2008-10-27 10:08:02 AM  
I thought this headline was invoking the Count.
 
2008-10-27 10:08:45 AM  

lostcat: I don't know about you, but I feel like this is the president this country deserves.


Exactly. That's my main problem with Obama. America doesn't deserve him.
 
2008-10-27 10:08:51 AM  
Wow 1st time I've seen 100% commie on the thermometer.
 
2008-10-27 10:09:05 AM  
I remember all names so I'm getting a...um....out of these replies.

/This is a big deal omgz
 
2008-10-27 10:09:12 AM  

Wrath of Heaven: I thought this headline was invoking the Count.


LOL!
 
2008-10-27 10:09:16 AM  

crinz83: He also said 'Joe The Biden' earlier in the interview.


Joe the Biden is broken, we better get Joe the Plumbin' in to fix him!
 
2008-10-27 10:09:51 AM  
I have never been one to focus on McCain's age because evil mutherfarkers live forever, but in all seriousness, I think he's losing it. I'm not being a McCain basher here. He has aged a decade during the last 2-3 months. As an Obama supporter, seeing him stumble for words and make mental errors was comical, at first. Now, it's concerning. On Saturday, he was speaking at a rally and he just could not get right. Every other sentence he had to go back and correct a word, or pause to re-gather his thoughts. If you saw that interview yesterday you saw an elderly man who, while still lucid, is losing the ability to express himself or to process information quickly. He really looks like he just needs a few weeks of quiet. I hope his vacation starts on Novemner 5th.
 
2008-10-27 10:09:52 AM  

NYZooMan: Issues, issues, issues...!


HAHAH!

Good one, Dems!


Which issues would you like to discuss?

McCain thinks the fundamentals of the economy are strong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmvuIQnfDeI&NR=1
but then changes his mind the next day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJZa0qFtT4&feature=related

McCain wants to fire the head of the FEC in order to fix the economy
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#26797957

McCain's campaign manager was paid $2 million to defend Fannie and Freddie against stricter regulations.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/22/america/22mccain.php

Freddie Mac paid McCain's campaign manager's firm $15,000 a month between 2006 and August 2008.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/161218/output/print

McCain's campaigned lied about the Fannie Mae CEO advising Obama. Raines was never an advisor to Obama.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/09/obamas_fannie_ma​e_connecti on.html

At least 20 McCain fundraisers have lobbied on behalf of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, netting at least $12.3 million in fees over the past nine years
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11781.html

McCain criticizes Obama for protecting young children from predators.
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75 McCain flip flops
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2008-10-27 10:10:17 AM  
If I were an American voter that would disturb me.
Politics is McCain's life. He should know the Secretaries of State from his own party from the last 20 or 30 years. Shultz was in Reagan's time, IIRC, so it's not completely stunning that McCain forgot, but it's still like a grandfather who cannot remember the names of his own five grandchildren.
 
2008-10-27 10:10:52 AM  
Give the damn guy a break. He should have been president instead of Bush, this is his last chance, and the Repukes gave him Cariboubarbie McTurdinthepunchbowl as a running mate.

.
 
2008-10-27 10:11:12 AM  
That wasn't bad at all. He did remember within 20 seconds of stumbling on it. I sometimes forget a person's name while I'm having a conversation with him. Wasn't even a funny.
 
2008-10-27 10:11:17 AM  
You know, I'm a guy with an Obama sign in the middle of my lawn, but this just isn't that big of a deal. Anyone who does a lot of public speaking knows you vapor lock occasionally on a name or topic, even about things you know backwards and forwards. I just got out of teaching a class and know I misspoke at least twice- I substituted one word for another. It's not uncommon for me to forget something for few seconds- your brain is usually 30-60 seconds ahead of your mouth, and sometimes that bites.

It's the same with his occasional Iran/Iraq mixups- he knows the difference, he just dropped the wrong word. Yes, it's embarrasing, but it's not senility unless I'm also going senile at age 42.

Even the absolute best public speakers do it- the best just cover it up more effectively.
 
2008-10-27 10:11:23 AM  

MaxxLarge: Here's a serious question for Republicans: If this doesn't scare the hell out of you, I'd honestly like to know why.

At least Reagan had the decency to wait until he was almost out of office to start up with the Alzheimer's and dementia.


BIDEN must have you hiding under your bed every night.
 
2008-10-27 10:11:24 AM  

Nightsweat: Mnemia: Having the support of Kissinger is nothing to be proud of, anyway.

It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.


I call bullshiat on your war crimes.

Show me the conviction in the Haag or STFU!

/towel headed nazi you
 
2008-10-27 10:11:31 AM  
Actually, what bugs me about this one is that all living former Democratic secretaries of state endorsed Obama.

All living former Republican -- oh wait, THAT'S why Colin Powell is huge news but no one cares that Lawrence Eagleburger endorsed McCain.
 
2008-10-27 10:13:43 AM  

LegacyDL: Wow 1st time I've seen 100% commie on the thermometer.


No, the only place you will see it in between is on the main page where it averages out the number of 'commie' articles vs 'facist' articles; each individual article however is either 100% commie, 100% facist, or 100% neutral.
 
2008-10-27 10:13:50 AM  
Meh. There are far more scathing things to call McCain out on. B-rock's made mistakes like that, too.
 
2008-10-27 10:14:25 AM  
www.faithmouse.com

GIS for "muppet count mccain".

"One Secretary of State! Ah! Ah! Ah! Two Secretaries of ... Secretaries of .... what was I talking about? Oh, right. For five and a half years...."
 
2008-10-27 10:14:30 AM  

zippyZRX: Nightsweat: Mnemia: Having the support of Kissinger is nothing to be proud of, anyway.

It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.

I call bullshiat on your war crimes.

Show me the conviction in the Haag or STFU!

/towel headed nazi you


Yeah, because an American is totaly gonna get convicted in the hague dude.
 
2008-10-27 10:15:54 AM  

Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco: zippyZRX: Nightsweat: Mnemia: Having the support of Kissinger is nothing to be proud of, anyway.

It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.

I call bullshiat on your war crimes.

Show me the conviction in the Haag or STFU!

/towel headed nazi you

Yeah, because an American is totaly gonna get convicted in the hague dude.


Then STFU. That is all.
 
2008-10-27 10:17:58 AM  
Get a life subby - I just hit 40 and I can't remember my own phone number. I'd give the man points for 4 out of 5. Lets see the Messiah name the soldier who's bracelet he wears. Last time I saw that he hummed and hawed till he read it.
 
2008-10-27 10:18:22 AM  

tonesskin: Oh wow, who the fark cares? Dear lord people grasp to the dumbest bullshiat in this election. OMG BARACK IS FRIENDS WITH BILL AYERS; OMG MCCAIN ONCE BANGED DUBYA.


I dunno bout that, but I did see him give Dubaya a hand-job.
i144.photobucket.com

/Hot like the 2000 election in a pawn shop.
 
2008-10-27 10:18:45 AM  

zippyZRX: Nightsweat: Mnemia: Having the support of Kissinger is nothing to be proud of, anyway.

It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.

I call bullshiat on your war crimes.
Show me the conviction in the Haag or STFU!


How about Yassir Arafat? War criminal & Nobel Peace Prize winner? Remember, according to your standard, he has no conviction in the Hague so he's as clean as the inside of a bleach bottle.
 
2008-10-27 10:19:14 AM  
big deal.

When he's president and he forgets the name of an important political figure, he'll have Sarah Palin there to help him

stupid libs
 
2008-10-27 10:19:14 AM  
In all seriousness, if the dems loose this one, maybe it's time to throw in the hat mmmkay?

Good luck Obama, we're all counting on you.
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2008-10-27 10:19:30 AM  

Byno: Wow, five Republican secretaries of state endorsing a republican. Wow. One of whom helped Bush push through the election in 2000. I am stunned.

Seems like there's one - probably the most respected - who came out for Obama, but his name escapes me.


You mean the one who's trying to escape the war crimes trial?
 
2008-10-27 10:19:32 AM  
Funny, even Kissinger said we should be talking to Iran. Who does McCain think he's appealing to with this dumbass neocon policy? What fractional portion of the population agrees with this? What fraction of them can even point Iran out on a map?
 
2008-10-27 10:19:47 AM  
What_do_you_want_now Then STFU. That is all.

Sign the ICJ Convention then, i dare you, i double dog dare you.
 
2008-10-27 10:19:51 AM  
Hmm, I would have thought that he had learned the "forgetful old man" rule. God knows I've had to use it plenty of times.

"I have the support of 5 past Secrataries of State, Baker, Kissinger, Haig, Eagleburger, ..you know the list- people have heard this before. The point is, I have plenty of support from high ranking officials."

TaDa!
 
2008-10-27 10:19:56 AM  

Philip J. Fry: That wasn't bad at all. He did remember within 20 seconds of stumbling on it. I sometimes forget a person's name while I'm having a conversation with him. Wasn't even a funny.


i279.photobucket.com

I totally know what you mean, dude.
 
2008-10-27 10:20:40 AM  
He should have just moved straight on to

The longer he spent trying to fix his mistake, the more he drew attention to it.
 
2008-10-27 10:21:03 AM  
I wonder if McCain and Kissinger ever discuss the many months McCain remained a POW because Kissinger extended the war to get Nixon re-elected.
 
2008-10-27 10:21:04 AM  
This whole interview was a FAIL for McCain, not just this segment. He seemed pissed annoyed and brought up Zogby 4 times. He did not come off very "presidential" at all.
 
2008-10-27 10:21:58 AM  
America: We get what we want, and deserve what we get.
 
2008-10-27 10:22:00 AM  
God, this is such an illusory circus.
 
2008-10-27 10:22:01 AM  
The name thing doesn't worry me too much, my dad gets all our names wrong and can't remember even what year we were born in, but having to keep on changing sentences and sounding muddled is very very concerning.
 
2008-10-27 10:22:01 AM  
I hope when I reach the ripe old age of 234,856,345,879, people aren't this hard on me.
 
2008-10-27 10:23:01 AM  
Don't forget that The Chosen One has visited all 58 states. He has certainly proven he can lead.
 
2008-10-27 10:23:05 AM  
DROxINxTHExWIND : I have never been one to focus on McCain's age because evil mutherfarkers live forever, but in all seriousness, I think he's losing it. I'm not being a McCain basher here. He has aged a decade during the last 2-3 months. As an Obama supporter, seeing him stumble for words and make mental errors was comical, at first. Now, it's concerning.

He's got to be completely exhausted. The pace and workload of a Presidential campaign would age any of us a few years. This guy's 72, he's just not equipped for it. The last week of this campaign is going to grind him into the ground.
 
2008-10-27 10:23:27 AM  

vernonFL: Isn't Henry Kissenger a war criminal?


Nope. Never been tried or convicted, just accused.
 
2008-10-27 10:24:06 AM  

pstawicki: Get a life subby - I just hit 40 and I can't remember my own phone number. I'd give the man points for 4 out of 5. Lets see the Messiah name the soldier who's bracelet he wears. Last time I saw that he hummed and hawed till he read it.


You're not trying to make a point on Meet The Press. He brought the list up, it's up to him to know it.

Besides, you can't seriously think it ends there.
 
2008-10-27 10:24:11 AM  

Mnemia: Having the support of Kissinger is nothing to be proud of, anyway.


Or Al Haig. These are not people I would proclaiming in public. Kissinger's Nobel Peace Prize was bs.
 
2008-10-27 10:24:20 AM  

TexasRedbud: The Chosen One has visited all 58 states

58? He must be counting the "real" parts of the state separately, just like the Avon Lady.
 
2008-10-27 10:24:21 AM  

Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco: What_do_you_want_now Then STFU. That is all.

Sign the ICJ Convention then, i dare you, i double dog dare you.


Sure, I'll sign it. But you see, my signature is meaningless. If you asked me to sign a petition to bring up war crimes against him, then you might have gotten somewhere with it.


/Private Citizen FTW!
 
2008-10-27 10:24:46 AM  

Bruce Campbell Said So: vernonFL: Isn't Henry Kissenger a war criminal?

Nope. Never been...convicted, just accused.


The same could be said for OJ.

/...
 
2008-10-27 10:25:23 AM  
What_do_you_want_now

Then STFU. That is all.

You can be guilty but not be convicted. Guilt just requires breaking the law, conviction requires a lengthy court process etc.
 
2008-10-27 10:26:14 AM  

Foiled Again: I hope when I reach the ripe old age of 234,856,345,879, people aren't this hard on me.


Its true, there have been worse Senior Moments in politics around the world.

The former leader of the Labor party in Australia, effectively lost the leadership after offering his condolences to the family of Karl Rove after he thought he had died.

In all actuality, it was the wife of prominent Australian TV personality Rove McManus that had died.
 
2008-10-27 10:27:06 AM  
The best part is "AAAH" at 0:22.
 
2008-10-27 10:28:37 AM  
Isn't it former Secretary of State C*nt, who McCain agrees with...err, couldn't disagree more with....ah, oh f*ck it. Joe the POW Plumber!
 
2008-10-27 10:29:12 AM  
Speaking of war criminals, Colin Powell just may be one too, and he is supporting Obama.
 
2008-10-27 10:29:15 AM  

wpmulligan: My 64-year-old mother is convinced that McCain forgetting Obamam's name lead to the "the other one" comment. She has senior moments and doesn't want a President who has them, too, so she is voting for Obama.


Bartlet: "You want me to refer to Senator John Hoynes of Texas, who at the moment has a 48-point lead for the Democratic nomination as "the other guy"? You're not afraid it's gonna make me look like I can't remember his name? I am. I think it's gonna make me look like I can't remember his name. I think it's gonna make me look addled. It's gonna make me look dotty. And even if it didn't make me look like that, it would remain a stupid idea. What's next? Nothing? Excellent."
 
2008-10-27 10:29:43 AM  
Byno
Wow, five Republican secretaries of state endorsing a republican. Wow. One of whom helped Bush push through the election in 2000. I am stunned.

Seems like there's one - probably the most respected - who came out for Obama, but his name escapes me.


Warren Christopher?

priestrape
big deal.

When he's president and he forgets the name of an important political figure, he'll have Sarah Palin there to help him


I'm presuming sarcasm here, since that's what most of us are afraid of.
 
2008-10-27 10:30:10 AM  

What_do_you_want_now: Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco: What_do_you_want_now Then STFU. That is all.

Sign the ICJ Convention then, i dare you, i double dog dare you.

Sure, I'll sign it. But you see, my signature is meaningless. If you asked me to sign a petition to bring up war crimes against him, then you might have gotten somewhere with it.


/Private Citizen FTW!


Too Lazy, im sure all the Mothers and fathers in Laos and Cambodia take comfort and solace the fact that he dropped his glasses in the Mens Room toilet in the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant.

Now THATS justice.
 
2008-10-27 10:30:34 AM  

SquirrelWithLargeNuts: What_do_you_want_now

Then STFU. That is all.

You can be guilty but not be convicted. Guilt just requires breaking the law, conviction requires a lengthy court process etc proof.


FTFY.
 
2008-10-27 10:31:15 AM  

Kaltros: wpmulligan: My 64-year-old mother is convinced that McCain forgetting Obamam's name lead to the "the other one" comment. She has senior moments and doesn't want a President who has them, too, so she is voting for Obama.

Bartlet: "You want me to refer to Senator John Hoynes of Texas, who at the moment has a 48-point lead for the Democratic nomination as "the other guy"? You're not afraid it's gonna make me look like I can't remember his name? I am. I think it's gonna make me look like I can't remember his name. I think it's gonna make me look addled. It's gonna make me look dotty. And even if it didn't make me look like that, it would remain a stupid idea. What's next? Nothing? Excellent."


Bartlett for President!!!
 
2008-10-27 10:31:27 AM  
I can has eagleburger?

i202.photobucket.com
 
2008-10-27 10:32:07 AM  
bottsicus:
He's got to be completely exhausted. The pace and workload of a Presidential campaign would age any of us a few years. This guy's 72, he's just not equipped for it. The last week of this campaign is going to grind him into the ground.


Obama is also, physically, showing the strain of the campaign; his hair looks greyer now than it did in April.

It's not going to get any easier one one of these men is elected into office. Every single person looks like they've aged 20 years in the 4 years they have held office. (Look at before and after pictures of Clinton, for example.) I just don't see how McCain can survive a 4 year term - and it's not just a question of his chronological age. The years as a POW did effect him and probably resulted in a much older biological age.
 
2008-10-27 10:32:14 AM  

FredaDeStilleto: It's one thing to substitute one word when you mean another, especially when speaking off-the-cuff. It's another thing to forget an idea or part of an idea. He was really grasping for that 5th name and couldn't focus on the next question.

That's okay for grandpa whose trying to get the kid's names straight. It's not okay for a world leader.


Or knowing how many states there actually are, or saying kids with
athsma use breathalizers...

You farking obama tards are hypocritical assholes and I hate every one of you. Most of you are lower middle class, so obma will screw you first, and I'll laugh and laugh, just like I laughed when Clinton fought to pass NAFTA after campaigning against it.

You idiots never learn, nor could you even name ONE I bet.
 
2008-10-27 10:33:16 AM  
just one more example of how McCain's camp keeps screwing the pooch. a good campaign organization could get Bonzo the Chimp elected. these guys keep putting McCain in front of the cameras and telling him to say things he cannot remember, does not believe, is too tired to care, etc. Guys. he's old. he's got early onset Alzhiemers. he's farking tired. he would screw his mother to get the presidency but he's forgotten just exactly why he thought this was all a good idea.
 
2008-10-27 10:33:33 AM  
I saw this live yesterday morning and actually felt sorry for the man - not enough to vote for him, just wishing that his caretaker would come and take him back to familiar surroundings so he didn't get frightened.

He has W and Rove to thank for his predicament - if he had been in an honest primary race in 2000, he would either be the current lame duck or a respected Senator. Now he's just in purgatory.
 
2008-10-27 10:33:37 AM  
I'm not a fan of any politician but FFS there isn't a single person who hasn't blanked on some piece of info they were giving someone, this is a non issue.


/none of the above `08
 
2008-10-27 10:35:09 AM  

bottsicus: He's got to be completely exhausted. The pace and workload of a Presidential campaign would age any of us a few years. This guy's 72, he's just not equipped for it. The last week of this campaign is going to grind him into the ground.


One of those pundits or someone was saying that running for president is the hardest job in the world. I'd believe it. Even Obama's looking like he's getting more gray.

I never would have thought the election would be a war of attrition.
 
2008-10-27 10:35:26 AM  

90supraT: I'm not a fan of any politician but FFS there isn't a single person who hasn't blanked on some piece of info they were giving someone, this is a non issue.


/none of the above `08


Just put "C"
/The answer is always C
 
2008-10-27 10:35:45 AM  

FredaDeStilleto: It's one thing to substitute one word when you mean another, especially when speaking off-the-cuff. It's another thing to forget an idea or part of an idea. He was really grasping for that 5th name and couldn't focus on the next question.

That's okay for grandpa whose trying to get the kid's names straight. It's not okay for a world leader.


i21.photobucket.com
 
2008-10-27 10:36:15 AM  
Viss:You farking obama tards are hypocritical assholes and I hate every one of you.

There's no hate like Republican hate.
 
2008-10-27 10:36:24 AM  

Call_me_Madame: He has W and Rove to thank for his predicament - if he had been in an honest primary race in 2000, he would either be the current lame duck or a respected Senator. Now he's just in purgatory.


This. I'm not voting for him, but he should have won the primary eight years ago, and probably the presidency as well.
 
2008-10-27 10:36:40 AM  
Dear God, if he blinks any more his head will fly off! (new window)
 
2008-10-27 10:36:42 AM  

Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco: What_do_you_want_now: Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco: What_do_you_want_now Then STFU. That is all.

Sign the ICJ Convention then, i dare you, i double dog dare you.

Sure, I'll sign it. But you see, my signature is meaningless. If you asked me to sign a petition to bring up war crimes against him, then you might have gotten somewhere with it.


/Private Citizen FTW!

Too Lazy, im sure all the Mothers and fathers in Laos and Cambodia take comfort and solace the fact that he dropped his glasses in the Mens Room toilet in the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant.

Now THATS justice.


Yes, it is indeed. I may not like your opinions, but I like your snark!
 
2008-10-27 10:36:42 AM  

Cyborg77: ... Obviously McCain knew the name, but in a crisis the last thing you want is the President standing around going "Hmmm what did I walk in to the Oval Office for again?"


I LOLed
 
2008-10-27 10:36:56 AM  
My grandfather was as regular a guy as you could want to meet.

He fought in Korea. He worked in a ceramic tile factory, making $15,000 a year until the day he retired. He had a house, a wife and three kids.

He wasn't the smartest guy in the world, but he worked hard and took pleasure in the little things like a cup of coffee every day and a cigarette when he could afford them.

However, when he spoke he had a certain authority that demanded attention and respect. He wasn't saying anything particularly important, but he made everyone feel like he knew what he was talking about, he knew what he was doing, and he was going to take care of everything. He was in charge of the situation, and you could hear it in the way he talked.

There was a time when this was a prized quality in those who ran for office. Somehow in the last, let's say eight years, the bar has really been lowered.
 
2008-10-27 10:37:16 AM  
McCain's note to self: next time don't start by saying how many, just start listing and stop when you can't think of any more.
 
2008-10-27 10:37:56 AM  
PANCAKES!
 
2008-10-27 10:38:45 AM  

Bucky Katt: NYZooMan: Issues, issues, issues...!


HAHAH!

Good one, Dems!

Which issues would you like to discuss?

McCain thinks the fundamentals of the economy are strong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmvuIQnfDeI&NR=1
but then changes his mind the next day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJZa0qFtT4&feature=related

McCain wants to fire the head of the FEC in order to fix the economy
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#26797957

McCain's campaign manager was paid $2 million to defend Fannie and Freddie against stricter regulations.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/22/america/22mccain.php

Freddie Mac paid McCain's campaign manager's firm $15,000 a month between 2006 and August 2008.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/161218/output/print

McCain's campaigned lied about the Fannie Mae CEO advising Obama. Raines was never an advisor to Obama.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/09/obamas_fannie_ma​e_connecti on.html

At least 20 McCain fundraisers have lobbied on behalf of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, netting at least $12.3 million in fees over the past nine years
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11781.html

McCain criticizes Obama for protecting young children from predators.
Link (new window)
Link (new window)

75 McCain flip flops
Link (new window)


And obama got millions for his wife from the food co she "works" for, and another 3m last year (or was it this year?) from Fannie Mae. Maybe to buy some "inhalators" he needs to use in 57...states, and two more to go, and one I cant visit (60).

So I'm voting for the lesser of the two assholes. McCain.

He might fark up this country, but he isnt bragging and boasting about it like obama is. Mindless farking sheep
 
2008-10-27 10:39:38 AM  

Call_me_Madame: I saw this live yesterday morning and actually felt sorry for the man - not enough to vote for him, just wishing that his caretaker would come and take him back to familiar surroundings so he didn't get frightened.

He has W and Rove to thank for his predicament - if he had been in an honest primary race in 2000, he would either be the current lame duck or a respected Senator. Now he's just in purgatory.


He has himself to blame as well. He hired the same sleazy political operatives that destroyed him in 2000 to run his campaign. Couple that with the mistake on limiting his fund raising options, his blatantly political pick of Sarah Palin to shore up his flagging support among religious conservatives in the Republican Party, and his frankly bizarre behavior during the financial crisis, and you have a recipe for fail.

Unless the various state Republican Party groups find a way to steal the election for him, that is.
 
2008-10-27 10:40:00 AM  
Is this the one he forgot?

www.topnews.in

No? You mean a sitting Sec of State of a Republican President hasn't endorsed the current Republican candidate?
 
2008-10-27 10:41:02 AM  
farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2008-10-27 10:42:09 AM  
It wouldn't be that bad if he was trying to come up with some list of things in response to an unexpected question. In this case, it was one of his own talking points that he couldn't recall.

And then he does remember and he shouts it out, as if the buzzer hadn't just gone off.

*bzzzzzt* you lose the election.
 
2008-10-27 10:42:22 AM  

Byno: Bruce Campbell Said So: vernonFL: Isn't Henry Kissenger a war criminal?

Nope. Never been...convicted, just accused.

The same could be said for OJ.

/...


Aw look, another shoot-from-the-hip lib providing an illogical arguement trying to establish a weak connection just for the sake of winning an arguement but failing miserably. Do the courts that try war criminals bring gloves out, do DNA testing, etc etc? No. You're a leader and you're held accountable for your documented, internationally witnessed actions. If you're guilty there is no "reasonable doubt" that you didn't order mass executions, bombings or whatever else that are excessive outside the boundaries of normal combat/conflict. You're guilty and it's cut and dry. Nazi war criminals, Milosevic, etc etc. Their system isn't broken.

/surprised someone didn't mention how Hitler was never convicted of war crimes... OMG OMG that would win!
//yes, a conservatard trying to state an opinion contrary to that of a libtard. this will go over well.
 
2008-10-27 10:43:37 AM  

MadAsshatter: SquirrelWithLargeNuts: What_do_you_want_now

Then STFU. That is all.

You can be guilty but not be convicted. Guilt just requires breaking the law, conviction requires a lengthy court process etc proof.

FTFY.


Beautiful, sir.
 
2008-10-27 10:43:54 AM  

What_do_you_want_now: Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco: What_do_you_want_now: Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco: What_do_you_want_now Then STFU. That is all.

Sign the ICJ Convention then, i dare you, i double dog dare you.

Sure, I'll sign it. But you see, my signature is meaningless. If you asked me to sign a petition to bring up war crimes against him, then you might have gotten somewhere with it.


/Private Citizen FTW!

Too Lazy, im sure all the Mothers and fathers in Laos and Cambodia take comfort and solace the fact that he dropped his glasses in the Mens Room toilet in the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant.

Now THATS justice.

Yes, it is indeed. I may not like your opinions, but I like your snark!


Thank you, same to you sir.

/Tips hat.
 
2008-10-27 10:44:46 AM  

TexasRedbud: Don't forget that The Chosen One has visited all 58 states. He has certainly proven he can lead.


Actually, when he misspoke he said "57 states".

/How's that memory?
 
2008-10-27 10:45:06 AM  

90supraT: I'm not a fan of any politician but FFS there isn't a single person who hasn't blanked on some piece of info they were giving someone, this is a non issue.


/none of the above `08


Aren't you an interesting and clever person!

Wow, all the choices are bad because they are "politicians" and politicians aren't cool.

Sorry, but governments are run by politicians, not plumbers or doctors or school teachers. If a school teacher became a senator, they would be a politician. See how that works?

No stop being a prima-farking-donna, read the issues, read what the candidates say about the issues, and pick a farking candidate already!
 
2008-10-27 10:45:50 AM  

lostcat: My grandfather was as regular a guy as you could want to meet.

He fought in Korea. He worked in a ceramic tile factory, making $15,000 a year until the day he retired. He had a house, a wife and three kids.

He wasn't the smartest guy in the world, but he worked hard and took pleasure in the little things like a cup of coffee every day and a cigarette when he could afford them.

However, when he spoke he had a certain authority that demanded attention and respect. He wasn't saying anything particularly important, but he made everyone feel like he knew what he was talking about, he knew what he was doing, and he was going to take care of everything. He was in charge of the situation, and you could hear it in the way he talked.

There was a time when this was a prized quality in those who ran for office. Somehow in the last, let's say eight years, the bar has really been lowered.


Evolutionary alpha male behavior. Objectively it has little value, but it's still largely the basis upon which idiots vote and women choose their lays.
 
2008-10-27 10:46:25 AM  

NYZooMan: Issues, issues, issues...!


HAHAH!

Good one, Dems!


His age is a legitimate issue, Trig.
 
2008-10-27 10:46:37 AM  
No Killenger pics from Venture bros?
 
2008-10-27 10:46:39 AM  
Bruce Campbell Said So: Nope. Never been tried or convicted, just accused.

If you're powerful enough, you can avoid facing responsibility for your actions. This is the only reason why Americans are never convicted of war crimes. But he's not innocent just because no court has the power to have him arrested and tried.
 
2008-10-27 10:46:56 AM  
*sigh*

Still better than Obama though.
 
2008-10-27 10:47:15 AM  
In other news, McCain is able to hide his own Easter eggs.
 
2008-10-27 10:48:56 AM  

PacersJAM3s: He forgot a name, it happens.

/Both politicians have made some gaffes this election, this one ranks near the bottom of the list.


This
 
2008-10-27 10:49:53 AM  

lostcat: 90supraT: I'm not a fan of any politician but FFS there isn't a single person who hasn't blanked on some piece of info they were giving someone, this is a non issue.


/none of the above `08

Aren't you an interesting and clever person!

Wow, all the choices are bad because they are "politicians" and politicians aren't cool.

Sorry, but governments are run by politicians, not plumbers or doctors or school teachers. If a school teacher became a senator, they would be a politician. See how that works?

No stop being a prima-farking-donna, read the issues, read what the candidates say about the issues, and pick a farking candidate already!


THANK YOU! I am sick to farking death of people who are so-called "undecided." Every four years we go through this stupidity. I actually saw a couple on CNN over the weekend whining about how hard it was to choose. No it isn't. Study the positions of the candidates, make a list, and tally up the results. If you can;t make a strong decision based on that alone, then you should vote opposite because you are lying to yourself about your positions.

All this political crap we have to deal with everyday is because of you attention whores.
 
2008-10-27 10:50:20 AM  

This Amp Goes To 11: NYZooMan: Issues, issues, issues...!


HAHAH!

Good one, Dems!

His age is a legitimate issue, Trig.


Agreed. Don't think it scares the hell out of some of us conservatives to be voting for a 70 something that might die in office and leave it to her. The VILF would become a PILF, but we'd all be F'd.

www.3tailer.com
 
2008-10-27 10:51:11 AM  
You know who else had the support of all the generals?
 
2008-10-27 10:52:21 AM  
Well, that settles it, the guy forgot a name during an interview. That's a disqualifier. Goodness knows none of you self righteous pricks have never forgotten someone or something.

BTW, he did come back almost immediately and mention that it was George Shultz.

What's interesting is even the messiah has stumbled, mumbled, himed and hawed even at his young age. Hell, the dude said the U.S. has 57 States and also once mentioned that while we're focused on the Middle East, we cannot ignore the Soviet Union

just sayin'


Meanwhile, another example of the superior level of tolerance, decency and humanity (new window) we can expect from the Democrat party:
 
2008-10-27 10:52:23 AM  

edremy: It's the same with his occasional Iran/Iraq mixups- he knows the difference, he just dropped the wrong word. Yes, it's embarrasing, but it's not senility unless I'm also going senile at age 42.


The mind's peak processing capacity comes at about 20. Given the trade-off with good information (wisdom/education/experience) and natural processing speed, most genius-level breakthroughs come in the mid-twenties.

Yes, you are getting slow. What you try and balance that with is experience. The trade-off cotinues, and most can make it a positive balance, until about 70 or so. Then it becomes really difficult to compensate lower engergy level with increased efficiency of action.

Look at long-term college football coaches for a good example of this. Yes, there are exceptions (JoePa), but the rule is pretty strong
 
2008-10-27 10:52:48 AM  

Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco: crinz83: He also said 'Joe The Biden' earlier in the interview.

Joe the Biden is broken, we better get Joe the Plumbin' in to fix him!


No need to worry, because "Barack America" will come and save us all.

/Bidenisms ftw!
 
2008-10-27 10:52:53 AM  

PH Neutral: You know who else had the support of all the generals?


This guy?

images.wikia.com
 
2008-10-27 10:54:12 AM  
libbynomore2: What's interesting is even the messiah has stumbled, mumbled, himed and hawed even at his young age.

Hint: no one calls him "the Messiah" except you idiots. Most Obama supporters don't worship their candidate.
 
2008-10-27 10:54:18 AM  

libbynomore2: Well, that settles it, the guy forgot a name during an interview. That's a disqualifier. Goodness knows none of you self righteous pricks have never forgotten someone or something.


If he enjoys their endorsements, then perhaps he should follow their advice about Iran and abandon his absolutely absurd notion that we shouldn't talk to them. Just sayin'.
 
2008-10-27 10:54:30 AM  
i260.photobucket.com
 
2008-10-27 10:55:09 AM  
wolvernova: If he enjoys their endorsements, then perhaps he should follow their advice about Iran and abandon his absolutely absurd notion that we shouldn't talk to them. Just sayin'.

He also should probably refrain from specifically bringing up his endorsements in an interview if he doesn't know who they're from.
 
2008-10-27 10:57:31 AM  
I'm proud of the support of former Secretaries of State: Baker, Kissinger, Haig, Eagleburger, and ah, ah, ah

multimedia.heraldinteractive.com
 
2008-10-27 10:58:47 AM  

Mnemia: Hint: no one calls him "the Messiah" except you idiots. Most Obama supporters don't worship their candidate.


It's a caricature of Obama supporters. Nobody actually thinks that they call him that. Humor, get it?
 
2008-10-27 10:59:20 AM  
i35.tinypic.com
 
2008-10-27 11:00:31 AM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: It's a caricature of Obama supporters. Nobody actually thinks that they call him that. Humor, get it?

It's stupid. And I actually do think some Republicans think that. What do you think McCain was appealing to in those "The One" and "Celebrity" ads?
 
2008-10-27 11:02:15 AM  

Mnemia: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: It's a caricature of Obama supporters. Nobody actually thinks that they call him that. Humor, get it?

It's stupid. And I actually do think some Republicans think that. What do you think McCain was appealing to in those "The One" and "Celebrity" ads?


You really need a refresher course on "Sarcasm" and "Satire"
 
2008-10-27 11:03:14 AM  
...teh fool doesnt get fooled again?
 
2008-10-27 11:03:24 AM  
What_do_you_want_now: You really need a refresher course on "Sarcasm" and "Satire"

No, I think I just need to drink my morning coffee.
 
2008-10-27 11:03:44 AM  
Oh, give John a break. After all, he's "McAncient".
 
2008-10-27 11:04:41 AM  

Mnemia: What_do_you_want_now: You really need a refresher course on "Sarcasm" and "Satire"

No, I think I just need to drink my morning coffee.


Have you tried IV? It works wonders, lets you snack on the bacon covered bacon biscuits all the time without having to stop and drink.

/I can hear my arteries scream
 
2008-10-27 11:05:06 AM  

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Evolutionary alpha male behavior. Objectively it has little value, but it's still largely the basis upon which idiots vote and women choose their lays.


Objectively, it keeps lemmings from running off the cliff.

It's the lion's roar that scares away the hyenas.

It's the calm and gentle voice of God (or Moses).

Really, there is something to be said for having an old wise one around.

/but there is a difference betwee him and the old crazy one.
 
2008-10-27 11:06:25 AM  

Mnemia: Bruce Campbell Said So: Nope. Never been tried or convicted, just accused.

If you're powerful enough, you can avoid facing responsibility for your actions. This is the only reason why Americans are never convicted of war crimes. But he's not innocent just because no court has the power to have him arrested and tried.


Of course it does, those would be American courts. The Hague was designed to work in collaboration with national courts of all countries and only comes into play when those courts are "unwilling or unable to investigate or prosecute such crimes." In the case of Kissinger, neither the conservatives or liberals that he pissed off thought that there was anything worth prosecuting over nor did his actions prove worthy of international legal action. You can cry power all day long and it does have some validity on one level or another, but it's a tired arguement used when all other logic fails and a person feels that justice wasn't done, even though legal minds smarter than all of us looked at his actions and deemed the case unworth of further action.
 
2008-10-27 11:07:34 AM  
A week to prepare a statement about Powell's endorsement of Obama(srsly, you knew that was coming) and this is all he's got?
 
2008-10-27 11:08:32 AM  

Bruce Campbell Said So: Byno: Bruce Campbell Said So: vernonFL: Isn't Henry Kissenger a war criminal?

Nope. Never been...convicted, just accused.

The same could be said for OJ.

/...

Aw look, another shoot-from-the-hip lib providing an illogical arguement trying to establish a weak connection just for the sake of winning an arguement but failing miserably. Do the courts that try war criminals bring gloves out, do DNA testing, etc etc? No. You're a leader and you're held accountable for your documented, internationally witnessed actions. If you're guilty there is no "reasonable doubt" that you didn't order mass executions, bombings or whatever else that are excessive outside the boundaries of normal combat/conflict. You're guilty and it's cut and dry. Nazi war criminals, Milosevic, etc etc. Their system isn't broken.

/surprised someone didn't mention how Hitler was never convicted of war crimes... OMG OMG that would win!
//yes, a conservatard trying to state an opinion contrary to that of a libtard. this will go over well.


Do some research on Henry Kissinger and the Vietnam war, with special attention paid to his policy towards Cambodia and its sovereignty. Also, you might want to check out his continued support of prolonged military action in a country which was no longer under the control of the part in power that invited us in the first place.

We HAD legitimate grounds to go into Vietnam, the ruling government said, "Oh crap, help us, we are scumbags and our citizens want us dead!"

We had treaties with them and the French, so we went in, however once it was obvious that such a power structure was not sustainable and was NOT just being hit by a few radicals on the left, we should have gotten the fark out. We did not, and Kissinger was a large part of that.

That is why he is a war criminal, he continued a wat for the benefit and profit of those in industry and government, with no concern or care for the lives he helped destroyed, the country he helped to ravage, or the fall out we are still dealing with in this country along political lines. Kissenger was as bad as McNamara in that. Hell, the only person who has done "worse" by us is Joe McCarthy, but thats my opinion.
 
2008-10-27 11:09:36 AM  

Mnemia: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: It's a caricature of Obama supporters. Nobody actually thinks that they call him that. Humor, get it?

It's stupid. And I actually do think some Republicans think that. What do you think McCain was appealing to in those "The One" and "Celebrity" ads?


Face it, there is a good chunk of Obama supporters that have no clue about the issues and but are just "inspired" by him and flock to him like 14 year old girls at a Jonas Brothers concert. They are more drawn into the glitz and hype around his campaign than what he actually stands for, good or bad.
 
2008-10-27 11:15:10 AM  

Prince of Insufficient Light: Mnemia: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: It's a caricature of Obama supporters. Nobody actually thinks that they call him that. Humor, get it?

It's stupid. And I actually do think some Republicans think that. What do you think McCain was appealing to in those "The One" and "Celebrity" ads?

Face it, there is a good chunk of Obama supporters that have no clue about the issues and but are just "inspired" by him and flock to him like 14 year old girls at a Jonas Brothers concert. They are more drawn into the glitz and hype around his campaign than what he actually stands for, good or bad.


Same can be said for the GOP, specifically the millions in the religious right.
 
2008-10-27 11:17:27 AM  

Dughan: Bruce Campbell Said So: Byno: Bruce Campbell Said So: vernonFL: Isn't Henry Kissenger a war criminal?

Nope. Never been...convicted, just accused.

The same could be said for OJ.

/...

Aw look, another shoot-from-the-hip lib providing an illogical arguement trying to establish a weak connection just for the sake of winning an arguement but failing miserably. Do the courts that try war criminals bring gloves out, do DNA testing, etc etc? No. You're a leader and you're held accountable for your documented, internationally witnessed actions. If you're guilty there is no "reasonable doubt" that you didn't order mass executions, bombings or whatever else that are excessive outside the boundaries of normal combat/conflict. You're guilty and it's cut and dry. Nazi war criminals, Milosevic, etc etc. Their system isn't broken.

/surprised someone didn't mention how Hitler was never convicted of war crimes... OMG OMG that would win!
//yes, a conservatard trying to state an opinion contrary to that of a libtard. this will go over well.

Do some research on Henry Kissinger and the Vietnam war, with special attention paid to his policy towards Cambodia and its sovereignty. Also, you might want to check out his continued support of prolonged military action in a country which was no longer under the control of the part in power that invited us in the first place.

We HAD legitimate grounds to go into Vietnam, the ruling government said, "Oh crap, help us, we are scumbags and our citizens want us dead!"

We had treaties with them and the French, so we went in, however once it was obvious that such a power structure was not sustainable and was NOT just being hit by a few radicals on the left, we should have gotten the fark out. We did not, and Kissinger was a large part of that.

That is why he is a war criminal, he continued a wat for the benefit and profit of those in industry and government, with no concern or care for the lives he helped destroyed, the country he helped to ravage, or the fall out we are still dealing with in this country along political lines. Kissenger was as bad as McNamara in that. Hell, the only person who has done "worse" by us is Joe McCarthy, but thats my opinion.


Yes, it's your opinion, but not the opinion of the Hauge. Go cry about it to someone who might bring him up on war crimes, but the big boys who prosecute and judge/sentance war criminals found no reason to do so.

Let me make this even more painfully clear. It's your opinion, it's not a goddamned fact.
 
2008-10-27 11:19:01 AM  

Prince of Insufficient Light:
Face it, there is a good chunk of Obama supporters that have no clue about the issues and but are just "inspired" by him and flock to him like 14 year old girls at a Jonas Brothers concert. They are more drawn into the glitz and hype around his campaign than what he actually stands for, good or bad.


And, there is a "good chunk" (whatever size that might be) of McCain supporters who are voting against the black man, or the arab terrorist, or the radical christian, or the secret muslim, or the secret black arab radical christian terrorist muslim. This doesn't mean they represent McCain supporters any more than the clueless young represent Obama supporters.
 
2008-10-27 11:19:17 AM  

Viss:
You farking obama tards are hypocritical assholes and I hate every one of you. Most of you are lower middle class, so obma will screw you first, and I'll laugh and laugh, just like I laughed when Clinton fought to pass NAFTA after campaigning against it.

You idiots never learn, nor could you even name ONE I bet.


What's it feel like to hate 200 million people at once? Your countrymen, no less. I can tell you are a *true* American from your intolernace, your hate, and your ignorance. You're the disease.

Stay classy, insignificant baby-man.
 
2008-10-27 11:20:48 AM  

robotpirateninja: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Evolutionary alpha male behavior. Objectively it has little value, but it's still largely the basis upon which idiots vote and women choose their lays.

Objectively, it keeps lemmings from running off the cliff.

It's the lion's roar that scares away the hyenas.

It's the calm and gentle voice of God (or Moses).

Really, there is something to be said for having an old wise one around.

/but there is a difference betwee him and the old crazy one.


We're not talking about wisdom, we're talking about leadership soft skills in isolation as a type of personality, divorced from all merit, wisdom, or intelligence.

For example, put a charismatic former high school football jock in with a few pasty nerds on an engineering project and he'll use his alpha male leadership qualities to intimidate them into line behind his ideas. That doesn't mean he knows anything about engineering or that the nerds wouldn't be better off without him, but he gets to lead them because they're too weak-willed and socially inept to question him. It worked alright when we were all ape-men foraging for food and fighting off big cats on the plains, but when complex issues arise it can be a very backwards form of organization, because frequently the people with the objectively worst capacity for understanding things get to make the decisions for everyone else.
 
2008-10-27 11:21:34 AM  

Trainspotr: And, there is a "good chunk" (whatever size that might be) of McCain supporters who are voting against the black man, or the arab terrorist, or the radical christian, or the secret muslim, or the secret black arab radical christian terrorist muslim


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By ixijimixi at 2008-10-11
 
2008-10-27 11:21:53 AM  
img219.imageshack.us


/he's f*cking old, and he's going to f*cking lose
//big-time
///you've got a little over a week to come to grips with it already
 
2008-10-27 11:24:24 AM  
At least he's not out visiting our 57 great states...

Wait...what??
 
2008-10-27 11:24:34 AM  

H31N0US: Same can be said for the GOP, specifically the millions in the religious right.


You're right. However, I can't remember ever seeing anything close to the "Hope" posters with Obama's face being platered everywhere. I don't remember seeing anything like that for Kerry, Gore, Bush, Clinton, or anyone. There are alot of people out there who have an obsession for the man unlike any other politician in recent history.
 
2008-10-27 11:25:09 AM  

Noah's Arcade: /he's f*cking old, and he's going to f*cking lose
//big-time
///you've got a little over a week to come to grips with it already


STRONGBAD/STRONGSAD '08, BIATCH!
 
2008-10-27 11:25:37 AM  
Trainspotr: And, there is a "good chunk" (whatever size that might be) of McCain supporters who are voting against the black man, or the arab terrorist, or the radical christian, or the secret muslim, or the secret black arab radical christian terrorist muslim. This doesn't mean they represent McCain supporters any more than the clueless young represent Obama supporters.

The "clueless young"? In my opinion, young people are far MORE informed than the older generations right now, mainly because they are more likely to rely on the Internet for news vs. television. It's the older people who can't handle the information deluge that our society produces now, simply because they didn't grow up in that environment. I would bet that a helluva lot more old people watch Fox News or other idiot pundit shows on cable TV, and I would bet that watching Fox News correlates with negative information gain (in other words, it makes you LESS informed to watch it). Sure, there are stupid, ignorant people in each movement. But I think that most young people who support Obama have concrete, issues-based reasons for doing so (and I know a LOT of Obama supporters). They just might not be issues that McCain supporters think are important (for example, many young people are horrified by the GOP's anti-gay and racist campaign tactics, and that's a concrete, issues-based reason to not vote GOP).
 
2008-10-27 11:27:17 AM  

Mnemia: In my opinion, young people are far MORE informed than the older generations right now, mainly because they are more likely to rely on the Internet for news vs. television.


9/11 truthers use the internets for their news as well.
 
2008-10-27 11:27:52 AM  

Mnemia: I think that most young people who support Obama have concrete, issues-based reasons for doing so (and I know a LOT of Obama supporters). They just might not be issues that McCain supporters think are important (for example, many young people are horrified by the GOP's anti-gay and racist campaign tactics, and that's a concrete, issues-based reason to not vote GOP).


Examples please?
 
2008-10-27 11:29:18 AM  

Mnemia: Trainspotr: And, there is a "good chunk" (whatever size that might be) of McCain supporters who are voting against the black man, or the arab terrorist, or the radical christian, or the secret muslim, or the secret black arab radical christian terrorist muslim. This doesn't mean they represent McCain supporters any more than the clueless young represent Obama supporters.

The "clueless young"? In my opinion, young people are far MORE informed than the older generations right now, mainly because they are more likely to rely on the Internet for news vs. television. It's the older people who can't handle the information deluge that our society produces now, simply because they didn't grow up in that environment. I would bet that a helluva lot more old people watch Fox News or other idiot pundit shows on cable TV, and I would bet that watching Fox News correlates with negative information gain (in other words, it makes you LESS informed to watch it). Sure, there are stupid, ignorant people in each movement. But I think that most young people who support Obama have concrete, issues-based reasons for doing so (and I know a LOT of Obama supporters). They just might not be issues that McCain supporters think are important (for example, many young people are horrified by the GOP's anti-gay and racist campaign tactics, and that's a concrete, issues-based reason to not vote GOP).


Keep thinking that, pup.
 
2008-10-27 11:29:54 AM  

secret lemonade drinker: The name thing doesn't worry me too much, my dad gets all our names wrong and can't remember even what year we were born in, but having to keep on changing sentences and sounding muddled is very very concerning.


That's because he's not your dad.
 
2008-10-27 11:32:46 AM  

Prince of Insufficient Light: There are alot of people out there who have an obsession for the man unlike any other politician in recent history.


There are a lot of people out there, as you said, that have an obsession with Obama. You just have to watch some videos of McCain/Palin rallies to see that ;)
 
2008-10-27 11:33:18 AM  
It sounds like he was taught that list in a very specific order, pure memorization. Poor dude is stressed out from this whole election wharrgarbl and strikes out.
I'd bet his campaign office told him to name those five so their names would simply be mentioned on air and give him the image of one who remembers his supporters.

Ever went completely blank at an exam? Now try campaigning for office for FSM knows how long, THEN try to pull a blank like that.
That's gotta hurt...

I'm pro-Obama, but PLEASE treat the old fart with some respect. He at least has the balls and tenacity to even run for office at his age.

/of course, balls and tenacity alone might not be what America needs right now...
 
2008-10-27 11:33:42 AM  

Bruce Campbell Said So: vernonFL: Isn't Henry Kissenger a war criminal?

Nope. Never been tried or convicted, just accused.


You know who else was never tried?
 
2008-10-27 11:34:28 AM  

wolvernova: 9/11 truthers use the internets for their news as well.


I was disappointed that I didn't see more of them during either convention. Bastards ruining my entertainment...
 
2008-10-27 11:35:00 AM  

Nightsweat: It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty accused by libs of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.


FTFY.

No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.
 
2008-10-27 11:37:18 AM  
wolvernova: 9/11 truthers use the internets for their news as well.

Yes, but at least on the Internet you have the possibility of getting the truth if you know how to filter the credibility of information properly. On TV you've got no chance most of the time because they all deliberately distort and withhold critical information. I can barely even watch any political coverage on TV anymore because I know too much now to be able to stomach the way they cover it. I stand by my statement that the Internet is a more credible information source than television news.

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Examples please?

Are you serious? The large wave of anti-gay ballot initiatives last time around were strategically placed to drive fundie turnout and thus help GOP candidates. That is blatantly and directly using homophobia as a campaign tactic. As for racism, just look at how they handled that Ashley Todd nutter chick. I'm not blaming them for having a crazy girl working on their campaign, but I do blame them for immediately and aggressively pushing the story to the medai. I believe that was done purely for race-baiting reasons. Also Google "Southern Strategy".
 
2008-10-27 11:37:19 AM  

Darconix: No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.


Cool. By similar logic, we can stop talking about Ayers then.
 
2008-10-27 11:38:02 AM  

Mnemia:
The "clueless young"? In my opinion, young people are far MORE informed than the older generations right now, mainly because they are more likely to rely on the Internet for news vs. television. It's the older people who can't handle the information deluge that our society produces now, simply because they didn't grow up in that environment. I would bet that a helluva lot more old people watch Fox News or other idiot pundit shows on cable TV, and I would bet that watching Fox News correlates with negative information gain (in other words, it makes you LESS informed to watch it). Sure, there are stupid, ignorant people in each movement. But I think that most young people who support Obama have concrete, issues-based reasons for doing so (and I know a LOT of Obama supporters). They just might not be issues that McCain supporters think are important (for example, many young people are horrified by the GOP's anti-gay and racist campaign tactics, and that's a concrete, issues-based reason to not vote GOP).


Hey now, I'm on your side. I was looking for a succinct way to sum up the reference to the 14-year old Jonas brothers demographic that Prince of Insufficient Light was referring to. I didn't mean to imply that all young people are clueless.
 
2008-10-27 11:39:34 AM  
Did much better than I could.

I betcha (sic) most people couldn't name the last 10 presidents.
 
2008-10-27 11:40:32 AM  

Darconix: Nightsweat: It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty accused by libs of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.

FTFY.

No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.


img.dailymail.co.uk

Like this guy
 
2008-10-27 11:42:38 AM  

Bucky Katt: What's his name, the one with the tatoo on his ass.... yeah him


I LOL'd. Thanks.
 
2008-10-27 11:43:08 AM  
Trainspotr: Hey now, I'm on your side. I was looking for a succinct way to sum up the reference to the 14-year old Jonas brothers demographic that Prince of Insufficient Light was referring to. I didn't mean to imply that all young people are clueless.

Yeah, I know. I just hate that sort of characterization, because I think it's total crap. Like I said, I believe that young people are probably among the most informed people in our society today, statistically. No offense meant towards you personally.
 
2008-10-27 11:43:46 AM  

Mnemia: Are you serious? The large wave of anti-gay ballot initiatives last time around were strategically placed to drive fundie turnout and thus help GOP candidates. That is blatantly and directly using homophobia as a campaign tactic. As for racism, just look at how they handled that Ashley Todd nutter chick. I'm not blaming them for having a crazy girl working on their campaign, but I do blame them for immediately and aggressively pushing the story to the medai. I believe that was done purely for race-baiting reasons. Also Google "Southern Strategy".


That's the best you can do? Weak. Please come back when you have a scintilla of actual evidence. I want something that would hold up in court.
 
2008-10-27 11:44:35 AM  
No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.

No court found William Ayers guilty of anything, yet some still try to smear Obama by showing that they've been in the same room together.
 
2008-10-27 11:45:48 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.

No court found William Ayers guilty of anything, yet some still try to smear Obama by showing that they've been in the same room together.


Oops
 
2008-10-27 11:46:18 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: No court found William Ayers guilty of anything, yet some still try to smear Obama by showing that they've been in the same room together.


That's ok. The Republicans steadfastly ignore evidence that John McCain spent five years hanging around with communists, accepting food, room and board, medical treatment, without ever paying them back.
 
2008-10-27 11:47:37 AM  

ilambiquated: Darconix: Nightsweat: It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty accused by libs of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.

FTFY.

No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.

Like this guy


Really, YOU go tell him the Hauge would like to speak with him. That withering stare would make Putin crawl back into a corner and cry himself into stupor.
 
2008-10-27 11:48:22 AM  

Bacontastesgood: Is this the one he forgot?

No? You mean a sitting Sec of State of a Republican President hasn't endorsed the current Republican candidate?


Yeah but she's just a woman.
 
2008-10-27 11:48:24 AM  
Dughan:
Do some research on Henry Kissinger and the Vietnam war, with special attention paid to his policy towards Cambodia and its sovereignty. Also, you might want to check out his continued support of prolonged military action in a country which was no longer under the control of the part in power that invited us in the first place.

We HAD legitimate grounds to go into Vietnam, the ruling government said, "Oh crap, help us, we are scumbags and our citizens want us dead!"

We had treaties with them and the French, so we went in, however once it was obvious that such a power structure was not sustainable and was NOT just being hit by a few radicals on the left, we should have gotten the fark out. We did not, and Kissinger was a large part of that.

That is why he is a war criminal, he continued a wat for the benefit and profit of those in industry and government, with no concern or care for the lives he helped destroyed, the country he helped to ravage, or the fall out we are still dealing with in this country along political lines. Kissenger was as bad as McNamara in that. Hell, the only person who has done "worse" by us is Joe McCarthy, but thats my opinion.


You say Kissinger was a large part of that, but then you say he's a war criminal. Would Kennedy and LBJ, who escalated and got us into the war not for the intention of becoming saviors of the Catholic and other refugee's fleeing from communists, but for the sole intention of not allowing communism to spread be considered war criminals? Of course not, they were in the midst of the Cold War and didn't want communism to branch out into other countries. Yes, they were Democrats, but their actions were respectable and I have the ability to recognize that. Kissinger did suggest bombing in Cambodia, which was only logical considering that the VC were using areas of that country as a base for raids and supply chains. Of course, we could argue all day on the Vietnam war because both sides have valid points. It was a mess when Nixon came in and a mess the way he handled it.

What cracks me up is the statement where you try to vilify him by saying he continued the war for the "benefit and profit of those in industry and government". Why do you think wars happen, exactly? Do you think they're for innocent reasons? OF COURSE they're for the benefit of industry and government. We've always fought wars to protect our interests and the interests of our allies. While we're fed information that it's humanitarian reasons, and some small part may very well be, we don't fight wars, nor does anyone else, just to survive. We fight for land, trading routes, because it's politically advantageous to support someone for whatever reason so we back them up and so on and so on. Yes, some people have fought battles for survival, but there is always something else involved. This isn't solely an "American" practice.
 
2008-10-27 11:48:43 AM  

What_do_you_want_now: ilambiquated: Darconix: Nightsweat: It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty accused by libs of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.

FTFY.

No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.

Like this guy

Really, YOU go tell him the Hauge would like to speak with him. That withering stare would make Putin crawl back into a corner and cry himself into stupor.


Yeah, I'm sure it would do that.
 
2008-10-27 11:48:58 AM  

Darconix: Nightsweat: It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty accused by libs of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.

FTFY.

No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.


HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAAHHAAAA!!
Buy some towels, there's bukkake on the way.
 
2008-10-27 11:52:32 AM  
...and the president of Spain. (the 1 in South America)
 
2008-10-27 11:53:18 AM  

ilambiquated: Yeah but she's just a woman.


He's also trying to convince everyone that the administration she's in doesn't exist, and that he had no ties to said nonexistent administration.
 
2008-10-27 11:54:10 AM  

What_do_you_want_now:

Yes, it's your opinion, but not the opinion of the Hauge. Go cry about it to someone who might bring him up on war crimes, but the big boys who prosecute and judge/sentance war criminals found no reason to do so.

Let me make this even more painfully clear. It's your opinion, it's not a goddamned fact.


Short and sweet. Should have read your response before responding to him. That says it all.
 
2008-10-27 11:55:29 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.

No court found William Ayers guilty of anything, yet some still try to smear Obama by showing that they've been in the same room together.


William Ayers admitted his guilt. His phrase was "guilty as sin, free as a bird, ain't America grand?" His case was thrown out due to prosecutorial misconduct.

I understand you're a lib and all, but please try to understand the distinction. On one hand you have someone charged with a crime under a court with appropriate jurisdiction (Ayers). On the other, you have civil suit harassment at levels without appropriate jurisdiction and ongoing cries of "war crimes" (Kissinger).

joonyer: HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAAHHAAAA!!
Buy some towels, there's bukkake on the way.


And there's another lib to weigh in on this issue with his thoughtful discourse...
 
2008-10-27 11:55:48 AM  

ilambiquated: Bruce Campbell Said So: vernonFL: Isn't Henry Kissenger a war criminal?

Nope. Never been tried or convicted, just accused.

You know who else was never tried?


I mentioned something about that before, but I was still waiting for someone to say that. It had to be said, being Fark and all.

/seen it a million times and it's still funny
 
2008-10-27 11:56:47 AM  
GuyCaballero: Yeah, I'm sure it would do that.

The jackal runs from the lion. You don't kill approximately 10 million of your countrymen, just 'cause you think they might be out to get you, and not inspire fear in others with your bearing alone.
 
2008-10-27 11:59:35 AM  

dkimball: Did much better than I could.

I betcha (sic) most people couldn't name the last 10 presidents.


Define "most." Basically anyone that presumes to discuss the political climate of the postwar world had better be able to discuss and know the last 11 presidents of the US, that should be something any high school graduate knows.

Now being able to name the secretaries of state since 1947, or perhaps the chief justices, or the sec gens of the UN... having to look something like that up might be understandable.

Being proud of ignorance is one of the things I pretty much despise with so many Americans. Being an inellectual snob is egregious and basically lame, but at least make an effort not to be an idiot (or vote for one).
 
2008-10-27 12:03:13 PM  

joonyer: Darconix: Nightsweat: It's rare that you get someone who's both guilty accused by libs of war crimes and a Noble Peace Prize winner to endorse you.

FTFY.

No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAAHHAAAA!!
Buy some towels, there's bukkake on the way.


Careful though - he'll report you for 'harassing' him if you point out how wrong he is.
 
2008-10-27 12:05:18 PM  

vernonFL: Isn't Henry Kissenger a war criminal?


No, but his brother is a member of the Guild of Calamitous Intent:

fc83.deviantart.com
 
2008-10-27 12:07:29 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Careful though - he'll report you for 'harassing' him if you point out how wrong he is.


Meh. Off-site behavior, Rufus. It's in the posting guidelines. For the same reason I don't make an account at a NAMBLA site with your name and use it as "evidence" that you like to diddle boys.
 
2008-10-27 12:07:58 PM  
www.delawareonline.com

Speeding and? Speeding and? Speeding and? Speeding and? Speeding and?
 
2008-10-27 12:10:10 PM  

Cyborg77: Speeding and? Speeding and? Speeding and? Speeding and? Speeding and?


Littering and..
 
2008-10-27 12:15:06 PM  

Mnemia:
Yeah, I know. I just hate that sort of characterization, because I think it's total crap. Like I said, I believe that young people are probably among the most informed people in our society today, statistically. No offense meant towards you personally.


No problem. I think this is why Obama's campaign has been so effective. His message is pretty much his message, take it or leave it, agree with it or not.

Whereas McCain's campaign seems to have been a series of semi-accusations and innuendo about Obama's character. Wright! Acorn! Ayers! Socialism! We need to know the whole story, my friends.

It's not working because too many people know the whole story, and realize there's nothing there. In a world where Joe the Plumber's life story and motivation was pretty much laid bare within hours of the third debate, it's getting harder and harder to imply that Obama has anything else to hide after twelve years in politics and almost two years of formally running for president.
 
2008-10-27 12:15:14 PM  
Mnemia [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 10:54:12 AM
libbynomore2: What's interesting is even the messiah has stumbled, mumbled, himed and hawed even at his young age.

Hint: no one calls him "the Messiah" except you idiots. Most Obama supporters don't worship their candidate.



Gee, I'm sorry, I was just trying to show respect to one of Obama's mentor's and most ardent supporters (new window)

and Chicago Homies
 
2008-10-27 12:15:34 PM  

DarkSkyForever: Littering and..


creating a public nuisance?
 
2008-10-27 12:16:02 PM  

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: For example, put a charismatic former high school football jock in with a few pasty nerds on an engineering project and he'll use his alpha male leadership qualities to intimidate them into line behind his ideas.


Sorry, not everything can be reduced to high-school stereotypes.

When you get to the level we are talking about here, high school is a long time in the past. Where you should leave it.
 
2008-10-27 12:17:31 PM  

Viss: FredaDeStilleto: It's one thing to substitute one word when you mean another, especially when speaking off-the-cuff. It's another thing to forget an idea or part of an idea. He was really grasping for that 5th name and couldn't focus on the next question.

That's okay for grandpa whose trying to get the kid's names straight. It's not okay for a world leader.

Or knowing how many states there actually are, or saying kids with
athsma use breathalizers...

You farking obama tards are hypocritical assholes and I hate every one of you. Most of you are lower middle class, so obma will screw you first, and I'll laugh and laugh, just like I laughed when Clinton fought to pass NAFTA after campaigning against it.

You idiots never learn, nor could you even name ONE I bet.


-13/10

Dude, that was PITIFUL trolling.
 
2008-10-27 12:18:24 PM  

Armchair_Invective: dkimball: Did much better than I could.

I betcha (sic) most people couldn't name the last 10 presidents.

Define "most." Basically anyone that presumes to discuss the political climate of the postwar world had better be able to discuss and know the last 11 presidents of the US, that should be something any high school graduate knows.

Now being able to name the secretaries of state since 1947, or perhaps the chief justices, or the sec gens of the UN... having to look something like that up might be understandable.

Being proud of ignorance is one of the things I pretty much despise with so many Americans. Being an inellectual snob is egregious and basically lame, but at least make an effort not to be an idiot (or vote for one).


Smart people are unattractive because they make everyone around them insecure. Sure, there are Farkers who say they love a smart woman, etc. but usually they secretly consider themselves to be smarter still, or at least possessing some kind of compensating alternate form of intelligence. Nobody likes to feel inadequate next to somebody else, which is why stupid people are popular. If you're out drinking with a large group and the question of the last 10 presidents came up, actually naming all of them would just lose social points with them. Exclaiming something like, "Shiiiiiat, I don't know who the Fark was in office 3 presidents ago, nevermind 10!" with a big goofy grin would make most Americans love you, guaranteed.
 
2008-10-27 12:18:31 PM  
IXI Jim IXI


hey that was a cute picture. What's sad is that the Democrats are excited about bringing back their America's WORST DAYS.

Carter/Mondale
 
2008-10-27 12:18:56 PM  

ilambiquated: Like this guy


Actually, that guy was found responsible for certain crimes committed during his term by a committee of his peers. And his master of executions was executed in his place.
 
2008-10-27 12:19:53 PM  

Darconix: rufus-t-firefly: No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.

No court found William Ayers guilty of anything, yet some still try to smear Obama by showing that they've been in the same room together.

William Ayers admitted his guilt. His phrase was "guilty as sin, free as a bird, ain't America grand?" His case was thrown out due to prosecutorial misconduct.

I understand you're a lib and all, but please try to understand the distinction. On one hand you have someone charged with a crime under a court with appropriate jurisdiction (Ayers). On the other, you have civil suit harassment at levels without appropriate jurisdiction and ongoing cries of "war crimes" (Kissinger).


So...saying "Guilty as hell" = conviction in a court of law, or is the fact that he was charged good enough? If so, we're wasting a lot of time and effort with this 'trial by jury' nonsense.

The charges were dropped - they could charge him again if the case is so solid and airtight. You'd think a CONFESSED TERRORIST LIVING IN AMERICA would be at the top of the Bush Administration's agenda. So I call bullshiat.

And as for picking on poor Henry, try reading "The Trial of Henry Kissinger" by that notorious lib Christopher Hitchens.


Darconix: rufus-t-firefly: Careful though - he'll report you for 'harassing' him if you point out how wrong he is.

Meh. Off-site behavior, Rufus. It's in the posting guidelines. For the same reason I don't make an account at a NAMBLA site with your name and use it as "evidence" that you like to diddle boys.


It's not that - it's calling him out for 'following you from thread to thread,' as if it's all about you. If someone chooses to post in political threads, he's going to bump into you. And 'repetitive posting,' which is laugable coming from someone like you.

i48.photobucket.com

Do I report you? No, because it's juvenile. If someone were seriously out of hand, that's something else. But because you're being picked on? You're the guy at a school board meeting popping up with Robert's Rules of Order and shouting "POINT OF ORDER!" but not contributing anything useful to the discussion.
 
2008-10-27 12:21:52 PM  

libbynomore2: IXI Jim IXI


hey that was a cute picture. What's sad is that the Democrats are excited about bringing back their America's WORST DAYS.

Carter/Mondale


McCain wishes he was anywhere near as competent as Carter.
 
2008-10-27 12:22:25 PM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: If you're out drinking with a large group and the question of the last 10 presidents came up, actually naming all of them would just lose social points with them.

Not with people I know. We talk about crap like that all the time while drinking.
 
2008-10-27 12:22:51 PM  
I always wondered how on earth we came to a point in this country where there were so many mindless drones who are so easily duped.

Oh, and just so we're clear, media bias is just a myth..oh wait (new window)
 
2008-10-27 12:23:25 PM  

Darconix: rufus-t-firefly: No international criminal court has ever found Kissinger guilty of anything. It's leftish masturbation like the modern attempts at trying to accuse Bush of war crimes.

No court found William Ayers guilty of anything, yet some still try to smear Obama by showing that they've been in the same room together.

William Ayers admitted his guilt. His phrase was "guilty as sin, free as a bird, ain't America grand?" His case was thrown out due to prosecutorial misconduct.

I understand you're a lib and all, but please try to understand the distinction. On one hand you have someone charged with a crime under a court with appropriate jurisdiction (Ayers). On the other, you have civil suit harassment at levels without appropriate jurisdiction and ongoing cries of "war crimes" (Kissinger).

joonyer: HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAAHHAAAA!!
Buy some towels, there's bukkake on the way.

And there's another lib to weigh in on this issue with his thoughtful discourse...


You have no conception of thoughtful discourse, Darc. That's why I don't waste time using it on you. I just hope you finally get tired of reciting GOP talking points that mean very little as of right now. You gave up the intellectual high road months ago, "my friend", and people actually follow your posts to make themselves feel better about themselves. So you're sort of like your own little Jerry Springer show. A lot like your political party.

Your new president. Enjoy him.
 
2008-10-27 12:24:16 PM  

Darconix: For the same reason I don't make an account at a NAMBLA site with your name and use it as "evidence" that you like to diddle boys.


Because they won't let you make a second account from the same IP address?
 
2008-10-27 12:24:45 PM  
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 12:21:52 PM
libbynomore2: IXI Jim IXI


hey that was a cute picture. What's sad is that the Democrats are excited about bringing back their America's WORST DAYS.

Carter/Mondale

McCain wishes he was anywhere near as competent as Carter.



Now why on earth would you want to embarrass yourself with such a ridiculous and ludicrous statement?

SERIOUSLY?
 
2008-10-27 12:24:55 PM  

libbynomore2: I always wondered how on earth we came to a point in this country where there were so many mindless drones who are so easily duped.


You're about seven years too late to be posting THAT question...
 
2008-10-27 12:25:35 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: DarkSkyForever: Littering and..

creating a public nuisance?


img381.imageshack.us
 
2008-10-27 12:25:48 PM  

libbynomore2:
Now why on earth would you want to embarrass yourself with such a ridiculous and ludicrous statement?

SERIOUSLY?


Just using John McCain's own standards. Carter had more executive experience than McCain does.
 
2008-10-27 12:27:00 PM  
libbynomore2: hey that was a cute picture. What's sad is that the Democrats are excited about bringing back their America's WORST DAYS.

Carter/Mondale


Sigh. Were you even alive then? I was, and 1980-88 sucked even worse, I can tell you. It was a non-stop "woohoo we're rich and you aren't!"
republican party, and let me tell you, it sucked to be on the outside looking in. The atmosphere of the country was simple: if you didn't belong, you were considered subhuman, and as such, didn't count. The economy isn't the only measure of what makes life worth living.
 
2008-10-27 12:27:02 PM  

libbynomore2: Now why on earth would you want to embarrass yourself with such a ridiculous and ludicrous statement?


BTW, it's pretty sad when you guys have been reduced to "but...but...but...Carter!"
 
2008-10-27 12:27:05 PM  
Dude, I saw that and just felt sorry for the guy. That's a huge flub. He just sounded really really tired.

Still going to get his ass kicked in eight days. I won't feel sorry about that.
 
2008-10-27 12:28:25 PM  

Mnemia: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: If you're out drinking with a large group and the question of the last 10 presidents came up, actually naming all of them would just lose social points with them.

Not with people I know. We talk about crap like that all the time while drinking.


And I'm sure that you don't consider yourself any less intelligent than your friends.
 
2008-10-27 12:33:05 PM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox , I dunno dude, I think you're projecting your bullshiat onto others.
 
2008-10-27 12:33:51 PM  
His muslim faith?

Oh, that's right, he was speaking with noted Obama pole smoker Tom Brokaw, so there's no help from the questioner on this one.

THIS changes EVERYTHING!! zOMG!!!
 
2008-10-27 12:35:11 PM  

rufus-t-firefly:
So...saying "Guilty as hell" = conviction in a court of law, or is the fact that he was charged good enough? If so, we're wasting a lot of time and effort with this 'trial by jury' nonsense.

The charges were dropped - they could charge him again if the case is so solid and airtight. You'd think a CONFESSED TERRORIST LIVING IN AMERICA would be at the top of the Bush Administration's agenda. So I call bullshiat.


So, someone who's admitted to being "guilty as hell" should be treated as innocent because the state says he is? Or because it refuses to use force due to its principles?

Nationalist psychosis when (and only when) it suits your purposes - the American way!

joonyer: You have no conception of thoughtful discourse, Darc. That's why I don't waste time using it on you. I just hope you finally get tired of reciting GOP talking points that mean very little as of right now. You gave up the intellectual high road months ago, "my friend", and people actually follow your posts to make themselves feel better about themselves. So you're sort of like your own little Jerry Springer show. A lot like your political party.


Go on thinking that while you respond to facts with cyber-semen.

(The scariest part is that you're right.)

/People like these in all three branches of government. Welcome to the next eight years, folks.
 
2008-10-27 12:37:13 PM  

What_do_you_want_now: Yay leftist hate! Taste just as great as Rightie hate, but with more gay marriage!

Mmm, nothing like a good Youtube smear to start the workweek.

/ Strongbad/Strongsad 2008!!


Meh, can you still call it a smear if it really happened?

Seems to me all the negative BS coming from the McCain side is the smear... Especially Palin's nonsense about Obama being a "socialist" as if she even knows what that means...
 
2008-10-27 12:37:35 PM  

Mugato: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox , I dunno dude, I think you're projecting your bullshiat onto others.


Nah, read How to Win Friends and Influence People. People want to feel valued, important, and intelligent. Anyone who makes them feel that way is sought after, anyone who makes them feel otherwise is resented. Dumb people make other people feel smart and valuable, so it's easier for them to be popular. It's just human nature.
 
2008-10-27 12:38:02 PM  

Mnemia: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: If you're out drinking with a large group and the question of the last 10 presidents came up, actually naming all of them would just lose social points with them.

Not with people I know. We talk about crap like that all the time while drinking.


Same here. Especially while drinking. In fact, if you couldn't name the presidents since WWII you'd lose points but we wouldn't mention it.
 
2008-10-27 12:39:36 PM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Nah, read How to Win Friends and Influence People. People want to feel valued, important, and intelligent. Anyone who makes them feel that way is sought after, anyone who makes them feel otherwise is resented. Dumb people make other people feel smart and valuable, so it's easier for them to be popular. It's just human nature.

Maybe that's true of stupid people who feel insecure about their intellectual abilities. Personally, I like being around people who I consider smarter than me, because it's so much more fun to talk to them.
 
2008-10-27 12:40:56 PM  

cyber_slacker: Seems to me all the negative BS coming from the McCain side is the smear... Especially Palin's nonsense about Obama being a "socialist" as if she even knows what that means...


She must've learned the term at ONE of those fancy colleges she attended...
 
2008-10-27 12:42:33 PM  

libbynomore2: McCain wishes he was anywhere near as competent as Carter.


Now why on earth would you want to embarrass yourself with such a ridiculous and ludicrous statement?


You do realize Carter was elected president, right?
 
2008-10-27 12:42:47 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: It's not that - it's calling him out for 'following you from thread to thread,' as if it's all about you. If someone chooses to post in political threads, he's going to bump into you. And 'repetitive posting,' which is laugable coming from someone like you.

Do I report you? No, because it's juvenile. If someone were seriously out of hand, that's something else. But because you're being picked on? You're the guy at a school board meeting popping up with Robert's Rules of Order and shouting "POINT OF ORDER!" but not contributing anything useful to the discussion.


"Getting picked on?" The guy was basically going into every thread (at least half a dozen) I posted in and posting a screenshot suggesting I'm some sort of software pirate, because he had a Google match on my name from some obscure message board. That's called repetitive posting. And the fact that you still don't seem to want to let something die that doesn't even farking involve you is, well.... This happened a farking week and a half ago, doesn't even farking involve you, and yet here you are, bringing it up when it's of no relevance to the article in question. If you don't want to engage me in discussion, then farking don't. If you post lies alleging I'm involved in illegal behavior over with so trivial "evidence," then fark yes I'm going to alert the mods.

I have no clue what they did, if anything. It's not my business. You seem to want to make it yours, though, so if I were you I'd ask them if you care about it so much.
 
2008-10-27 12:45:28 PM  

AuntNotAnt: /People like these in all three branches of government. Welcome to the next eight years, folks.


After the last eight of proven failure, I can see where you'd be a bit cynical. Lighten up, I doubt much will change except the "bombing the fark out of entire countries for nothing".
 
2008-10-27 12:46:18 PM  

IXI Jim IXI:
She must've learned the term at ONE of those fancy colleges she attended...


Nah, I think it was just phonetically spelled out for her on the teleprompter. There's no need to learn fancy, multi-syllable words with current tech.

/New-clear
 
2008-10-27 12:56:03 PM  

libbynomore2: IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 12:21:52 PM
libbynomore2:


Are you the same libbynomore2 who made a post in the the thread about the killing of Hudson's mother and brother?

You know, the person who used the death of these two people to take a shot at Obama? Are you the same person who believed the backwards B chick's story?

/just checking
 
2008-10-27 12:59:58 PM  

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Nah, read How to Win Friends and Influence People.


I would rather eat glass while having intercourse with kitty litter.

I have a few friends who are smarter than I am, or at least know more than I do and I learn from them. I have other friends who I call out on their bullshiat. The only people who are intimidated by people who may be smarter than them are the type who would read "How to Win Friends and Influence People".
 
2008-10-27 01:00:37 PM  
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 12:24:55 PM
libbynomore2: I always wondered how on earth we came to a point in this country where there were so many mindless drones who are so easily duped.

You're about seven years too late to be posting THAT question...



Stupid comment. my question is about how people like YOU believe what you hear on the news that has been proven beyond doubt to be unfair and biased.

maybe just too lazy to use your internets for anything other than embarrassing yourself on fark?
 
2008-10-27 01:02:26 PM  

Darconix: rufus-t-firefly: It's not that - it's calling him out for 'following you from thread to thread,' as if it's all about you. If someone chooses to post in political threads, he's going to bump into you. And 'repetitive posting,' which is laugable coming from someone like you.

Do I report you? No, because it's juvenile. If someone were seriously out of hand, that's something else. But because you're being picked on? You're the guy at a school board meeting popping up with Robert's Rules of Order and shouting "POINT OF ORDER!" but not contributing anything useful to the discussion.

"Getting picked on?" The guy was basically going into every thread (at least half a dozen) I posted in and posting a screenshot suggesting I'm some sort of software pirate, because he had a Google match on my name from some obscure message board. That's called repetitive posting. And the fact that you still don't seem to want to let something die that doesn't even farking involve you is, well.... This happened a farking week and a half ago, doesn't even farking involve you, and yet here you are, bringing it up when it's of no relevance to the article in question. If you don't want to engage me in discussion, then farking don't.



First off, I made an offhand comment about reporting people for 'harassing' you - and it was not in response to one of your posts. YOU then inserted yourself to counter my comment, so I provided further evidence.

And the funny thing is I never would have noticed that guy's post in the first place if you hadn't given everyone a TOS refresher course. I had been in political threads and did not even notice him until you went off. So then I clicked the link in your post and saw what was going on. So your lecture wound up getting more people to look at his post.

That's why, if you MUST report someone, it's best to just do it silently and hope the mods enforce the rules as you have interpreted them. It's not the reporting - it's the lecturing and whining that most Farkers object to.

Plus - its one thing to report someone for a rule violation...it's another to report someone for a violation that was directed at you, and then publicize it, knowing that others would rip you for it. That's Attention Whoring and threadjacking.

[Insert 'Welcome to Fark' pic]

But as far as saving you from the obvious contradiction from you defending Kissinger while you attack someone who was in the same room as Ayers a few times - you're welcome.

Again - read the Christopher Hitchens book "The Trial of Henry Kissinger." You can see what a lib that Hitchens is via the following quotes:

"Europeans think Americans are fat, vulgar, greedy, stupid, ambitious and ignorant and so on. And they've taken as their own, as their representative American, someone who actually embodies all of those qualities [Michael Moore]."

"Every day, the New York Times carries a motto in a box on its front page. "All the News That's Fit to Print," it says. It's been saying it for decades, day in and day out. I imagine most readers of the canonical sheet have long ceased to notice this bannered and flaunted symbol of its mental furniture. I myself check every day to make sure that the bright, smug, pompous, idiotic claim is still there."

"As well as being a vulgar producer of her own spectacle, and an embarrassment to her family, Cindy Sheehan is at best a shifty fantasist."
 
2008-10-27 01:03:59 PM  
I'm not entirely sure that having Al Haig and Henry Kissinger on your side is a GOOD thing.
 
2008-10-27 01:06:33 PM  

libbynomore2: Stupid comment. my question is about how people like YOU believe what you hear on the news that has been proven beyond doubt to be unfair and biased.


You're making the erroneous assumption that I watch Fox News...
 
2008-10-27 01:07:34 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: cyber_slacker: Seems to me all the negative BS coming from the McCain side is the smear... Especially Palin's nonsense about Obama being a "socialist" as if she even knows what that means...

She must've learned the term at ONE of those fancy colleges she attended...


I don't know... She seems to have missed the whole thing about evolutionary biology so I'm not convinced. Either way though, I don't think it'd stop her from misusing the word to get a little fear mongering done.
 
2008-10-27 01:08:28 PM  
mrshowrules [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 12:56:03 PM
libbynomore2: IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 12:21:52 PM
libbynomore2:

Are you the same libbynomore2 who made a post in the the thread about the killing of Hudson's mother and brother?

You know, the person who used the death of these two people to take a shot at Obama?



Not quite.....but not aurprised that you would be forced to take what I said out of context. I pointed out that despite all of Obama's " community organizing " ( which is really his only experience that you people brag about ) his home town is the murder capital of the U.S.

Are you the same person who believed the backwards B chick's story?


Again, I did in fact give the alleged victim the benefit of the doubt. HOWEVER, unlike those who believed the black stripper who was busted for falsely accusing some white boys at Duke U. Once *I* found out she was lying, I suggested that she not only be charged with filing a false police report, but that she be sentenced to serve the same amount of jail time that someone would have served if convicted of robbery, assault and a hate crime.

In other words you're weak and for purposely misrepresenting what I said ( because that's all you could do I guess ) you earn a Category 5 FAIL
/just check
ing
 
2008-10-27 01:09:09 PM  

SomeoneDumb:
Nah, I think it was just phonetically spelled out for her on the teleprompter. There's no need to learn fancy, multi-syllable words with current tech.

/New-clear


I thought she didn't use the prompter, that she memorized (or used cue cards)? That was one of the things her supporters were making a big deal about back when they introduced her.
 
2008-10-27 01:09:27 PM  

Darconix: rufus-t-firefly: It's not that - it's calling him out for 'following you from thread to thread,' as if it's all about you. If someone chooses to post in political threads, he's going to bump into you. And 'repetitive posting,' which is laugable coming from someone like you.

Do I report you? No, because it's juvenile. If someone were seriously out of hand, that's something else. But because you're being picked on? You're the guy at a school board meeting popping up with Robert's Rules of Order and shouting "POINT OF ORDER!" but not contributing anything useful to the discussion.

"Getting picked on?" The guy was basically going into every thread (at least half a dozen) I posted in and posting a screenshot suggesting I'm some sort of software pirate, because he had a Google match on my name from some obscure message board. That's called repetitive posting. And the fact that you still don't seem to want to let something die that doesn't even farking involve you is, well.... This happened a farking week and a half ago, doesn't even farking involve you, and yet here you are, bringing it up when it's of no relevance to the article in question. If you don't want to engage me in discussion, then farking don't. If you post lies alleging I'm involved in illegal behavior over with so trivial "evidence," then fark yes I'm going to alert the mods.

I have no clue what they did, if anything. It's not my business. You seem to want to make it yours, though, so if I were you I'd ask them if you care about it so much.


O hey, a fight broke out in a political thread. Fancy that.

Fark really needs to get a bicycle rack. That way people could meet each other there after school.
 
2008-10-27 01:09:28 PM  
Viss: So I'm voting for the lesser of the two assholes. McCain.

Yeah? How'd that work out for you last time?
 
2008-10-27 01:11:12 PM  

Mugato: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Nah, read How to Win Friends and Influence People.

I would rather eat glass while having intercourse with kitty litter.

I have a few friends who are smarter than I am, or at least know more than I do and I learn from them. I have other friends who I call out on their bullshiat. The only people who are intimidated by people who may be smarter than them are the type who would read "How to Win Friends and Influence People".


It's widely considered one of the most successful and accurate books on human relations ever written. Maybe you're not as open to learning as you think if you would rather "eat glass" than read it on principle.
 
2008-10-27 01:13:50 PM  

Viss: You farking obama tards are hypocritical assholes and I hate every one of you. Most of you are lower middle class, so obma will screw you first, and I'll laugh and laugh, just like I laughed when Clinton fought to pass NAFTA after campaigning against it.


Wow, you seem nice.

You should really takes meds or something. You need to calm the fark down and get a brain before you give yourself an aneurism.

Also, your argument that anyone who votes for Obama is a "tard" lacks substance.
 
2008-10-27 01:15:22 PM  

Viss: So I'm voting for the lesser of the two assholes. McCain.


Funny, it sounds like you're voting for the ticket that has two assholes on it.
 
2008-10-27 01:15:26 PM  
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 01:06:33 PM
libbynomore2: Stupid comment. my question is about how people like YOU believe what you hear on the news that has been proven beyond doubt to be unfair and biased.

You're making the erroneous assumption that I watch Fox News...



No, I assume you don't watch FNC, you know, the ONE media outlet that isn't in the tank for the Socialist left.

Did you even READ (new window) the story? of course not. it isn't about Fox News, it's about everyone else who has their Obama knee pads on.

It's so funny to me, the entire MSM is left wing and all you can do is focus on ONE LONE media outlet that isn't. That says a lot about you. if there is even one source of information that doesn't conform to your brainwashing, you freak out.

get help
 
2008-10-27 01:15:55 PM  

SomeoneDumb: Nah, I think it was just phonetically spelled out for her on the teleprompter. There's no need to learn fancy, multi-syllable words with current tech.

/New-clear


hahahahahahaha. She's too busy shopping for shoes to be doin' no damn stinkin' sciency learnin'.
 
2008-10-27 01:20:19 PM  

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Mnemia: Are you serious? The large wave of anti-gay ballot initiatives last time around were strategically placed to drive fundie turnout and thus help GOP candidates. That is blatantly and directly using homophobia as a campaign tactic. As for racism, just look at how they handled that Ashley Todd nutter chick. I'm not blaming them for having a crazy girl working on their campaign, but I do blame them for immediately and aggressively pushing the story to the medai. I believe that was done purely for race-baiting reasons. Also Google "Southern Strategy".

That's the best you can do? Weak. Please come back when you have a scintilla of actual evidence. I want something that would hold up in court.


Held up in court, like Allen Raymond who just got out a jail for rigging elections for republicans by suppressing black votes? Or how about the 2 guys who just went to jail for rigging the 2000 election by suppressing black voters? Is that enough evidence for you?
 
2008-10-27 01:21:11 PM  

libbynomore2: if there is even one source of information that doesn't conform to your brainwashing, you freak out.


farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2008-10-27 01:25:25 PM  

sideshwtodd: Held up in court, like Allen Raymond who just got out a jail for rigging elections for republicans by suppressing black votes? Or how about the 2 guys who just went to jail for rigging the 2000 election by suppressing black voters? Is that enough evidence for you?


I think you're confused as to the facts of those cases. They had nothing to do with racism.
 
2008-10-27 01:26:07 PM  

libbynomore2: No, I assume you don't watch FNC, you know, the ONE media outlet that isn't in the tank for the Socialist left.

Did you even READ (new window) the story? of course not. it isn't about Fox News, it's about everyone else who has their Obama knee pads on.


I wasn't referencing the story when I mentioned Fox News...I was referencing your post.

But you go on and believe they're "Fair and Balanced" if that makes you feel better.
 
2008-10-27 01:27:10 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: farm4.static.flickr.com


He's obviously taken one of the McCain campaign's strongest tactics to heart.
 
2008-10-27 01:30:06 PM  

libbynomore2: IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 01:06:33 PM
libbynomore2: Stupid comment. my question is about how people like YOU believe what you hear on the news that has been proven beyond doubt to be unfair and biased.

You're making the erroneous assumption that I watch Fox News...


No, I assume you don't watch FNC, you know, the ONE media outlet that isn't in the tank for the Socialist left.

Did you even READ (new window) the story? of course not. it isn't about Fox News, it's about everyone else who has their Obama knee pads on.

It's so funny to me, the entire MSM is left wing and all you can do is focus on ONE LONE media outlet that isn't. That says a lot about you. if there is even one source of information that doesn't conform to your brainwashing, you freak out.

get help



That wasn't a story - it was commentary. It had no citations, no examples of actual bias - kinda like a post by a "Fark Independent." It even has a disclaimer - something you don't find on a news story:

This is the opinion of the columnist and in no way reflects the opinion of ABC News.

Perhaps Fox News has warped your brain so that you don't know the difference between news and commentary anymore.

"I'm a journalist who interviews people who I disagree with all the time, that give their opinion. Fox has all points of view." - Sean Hannity, 10/05/08
(defending his choice to have an anti-semitic Obama-basher on his show)

"I'm not a journalist. I am an outspoken, compassionate, thoughtful, independent-thinking conservative -- a Reagan conservative, in my view. Unlike these other guys that claim to be fair. They have the agenda."
- Sean Hannity 7/7/04
 
2008-10-27 01:33:24 PM  

IXI Jim IXI:
I thought she didn't use the prompter, that she memorized (or used cue cards)? That was one of the things her supporters were making a big deal about back when they introduced her.


She does, she has, she always will. It's what she's best at.

Her ability to give a rip-roaring speech isn't questioned, but it's far removed from her eloquence when speaking off the cuff. She's one helluva performer, but I don't think anyone considers her a deep thinker. It's not important to think, only to recite and toss out red meat to the base.
 
2008-10-27 01:33:46 PM  

alltandubh: No need to worry, because "Barack America" will come and save us all.


I thought he was "Senator Government".
 
2008-10-27 01:35:13 PM  

cyber_slacker:
hahahahahahaha. She's too busy shopping for shoes to be doin' no damn stinkin' sciency learnin'.


Fruit flies for the win!
 
2008-10-27 01:38:00 PM  

MaxxLarge: Here's a serious question for Republicans: If this doesn't scare the hell out of you, I'd honestly like to know why.

At least Reagan had the decency to wait until he was almost out of office to start up with the Alzheimer's and dementia.


You're joking, yes?

img119.imageshack.us
 
2008-10-27 01:38:57 PM  

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: sideshwtodd: Held up in court, like Allen Raymond who just got out a jail for rigging elections for republicans by suppressing black votes? Or how about the 2 guys who just went to jail for rigging the 2000 election by suppressing black voters? Is that enough evidence for you?

I think you're confused as to the facts of those cases. They had nothing to do with racism.


Wow way to totally take one part of a larger picture so it helps you justify what you believe. Yes technically they did not go to jail for JUST the rascict aspect of rigging election. They went to jail because they were rigging elections. Let's see though, how were they rigging elections? OH YEAH BY SUPPRESSING BLACK VOTERS. Even the people themselves admit that they were suppressing black voters.

The original poster was saying that people realize this and are sick and tired of the GOP using these tactics to win, and that person was correct.
 
2008-10-27 01:39:29 PM  
He's going for the Reagan voters...
 
2008-10-27 01:39:39 PM  

SomeoneDumb: but I don't think anyone considers her a deep thinker


I think SHE might actually consider herself a deep thinker...which is why I always like to see her interviewed.
 
2008-10-27 01:39:50 PM  

Viss: FredaDeStilleto: It's one thing to substitute one word when you mean another, especially when speaking off-the-cuff. It's another thing to forget an idea or part of an idea. He was really grasping for that 5th name and couldn't focus on the next question.

That's okay for grandpa whose trying to get the kid's names straight. It's not okay for a world leader.

Or knowing how many states there actually are, or saying kids with
athsma use breathalizers...


Using the wrong word choice is not a big deal I think. As for the 57 states thing, he said he visited 57 states, which he might have been thinking 57 cities, or that he made 57 trips.

Trying to say that Obama is within the same striking distance of "senility" that McCain is, is simply absurd. That said I voted on issues, not stuff like this. If I was completely torn on the issues, something like this might break the tie. And only in conjunction with the many other things he's said and did that don't bode well. This by itself isn't game breaking.

The rest of your post was just spiteful garbage and not worth responding to.
 
2008-10-27 01:43:17 PM  

PsyLord: He's going for the Reagan voters...


The dead ones?
 
2008-10-27 01:43:35 PM  

IXI Jim IXI:
I think SHE might actually consider herself a deep thinker...which is why I always like to see her interviewed.


If there were enough of her interviews to be released as a DVD set, I'd buy it and pirate it, both!

As it is, I think it would fit on a floppy.
 
2008-10-27 01:45:34 PM  

Viss: FredaDeStilleto: It's one thing to substitute one word when you mean another, especially when speaking off-the-cuff. It's another thing to forget an idea or part of an idea. He was really grasping for that 5th name and couldn't focus on the next question.

That's okay for grandpa whose trying to get the kid's names straight. It's not okay for a world leader.

Or knowing how many states there actually are, or saying kids with
athsma use breathalizers...

You farking obama tards are hypocritical assholes and I hate every one of you. Most of you are lower middle class, so obma will screw you first, and I'll laugh and laugh, just like I laughed when Clinton fought to pass NAFTA after campaigning against it.

You idiots never learn, nor could you even name ONE I bet.


I bet your mom voted early for Obama. So much hostility for such a small mind.
 
2008-10-27 01:49:53 PM  

sideshwtodd: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: sideshwtodd: Held up in court, like Allen Raymond who just got out a jail for rigging elections for republicans by suppressing black votes? Or how about the 2 guys who just went to jail for rigging the 2000 election by suppressing black voters? Is that enough evidence for you?

I think you're confused as to the facts of those cases. They had nothing to do with racism.

Wow way to totally take one part of a larger picture so it helps you justify what you believe. Yes technically they did not go to jail for JUST the rascict aspect of rigging election. They went to jail because they were rigging elections. Let's see though, how were they rigging elections? OH YEAH BY SUPPRESSING BLACK VOTERS. Even the people themselves admit that they were suppressing black voters.

The original poster was saying that people realize this and are sick and tired of the GOP using these tactics to win, and that person was correct.


Actually, I'm being entirely objective about it. You're the one who is interpreting a set of facts to support your preexisting conclusion, by use of ambiguousness and emotional appeals. The Allen case, for example, had nothing to do with racism.

"The idea originated with Charles McGee , who was executive director of the New Hampshire Republican Party, according to court records. McGee, who had served as a helicopter crew chief in the Marine Corps, testified that he learned in the military that ``if you can't communicate, you can't plan and organize," so Democrats would be hampered in their efforts to get voters to the polls if their phones were constantly busy." - Source

Where in there do you see a racist motive? Again, what he did was despicable, just not racist, but the accusation being made is "racism" in the GOP, so we will deal with that claim independently on its merits or lack thereof.
 
2008-10-27 01:52:09 PM  
Shows that McCain is a real person. At least Obama knows there are 57 States! HE speakes very well when the teleprompter is telling him what to say.

Obama Teleprompter Malfunction (new window)

Obama is worthless without people telling him what to say. I believe Biden will be the actual President. Obama will be nothing more than a figurehead to pander to minorities while the Democrats maintain a white supremacy while fooling the minorities.
 
2008-10-27 01:52:27 PM  
tonesskin: OMG MCAIN ONCE BANGED DUBYA.

LOL, so McCain was the pitcher?

That's a platform you can get behind!

/Monday
//Bored
///I LUV SLASHIES!!
 
2008-10-27 01:53:19 PM  
Someone mentioned that girl who carved the B in her face...

Yeah, someone did some research and she volunteered with the McCain campaign 2 weeks ago, immediately PLASTERED her car with McCain stickers, then ran to the media with this incident, admitted she lied... she kept the story up just long enough for the story to spread around.

The researched part:

Before she joined the McCain campaign she was a hardcore Obama supporter, a frequent poster on Obama blogs and other ultra-liberal websites. She might be crazy and all, but it was an organized set-up against the McCain campaign. Won't hear about it on the tv's though (except maybe fox news, but as the counter-culture news-source nowadays they are discredited to the public majority).

Ageism is just as bad as racism.

/voting for the old guy, not the black guy.
 
2008-10-27 01:59:58 PM  

numberonenoob: Before she joined the McCain campaign she was a hardcore Obama supporter, a frequent poster on Obama blogs and other ultra-liberal websites. She might be crazy and all, but it was an organized set-up against the McCain campaign. Won't hear about it on the tv's though (except maybe fox news, but as the counter-culture news-source nowadays they are discredited to the public majority).


Apparently won't hear about it from you, either, seeing you can't be bothered to post a source.
 
2008-10-27 02:01:22 PM  

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: sideshwtodd: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: sideshwtodd: Held up in court, like Allen Raymond who just got out a jail for rigging elections for republicans by suppressing black votes? Or how about the 2 guys who just went to jail for rigging the 2000 election by suppressing black voters? Is that enough evidence for you?

I think you're confused as to the facts of those cases. They had nothing to do with racism.

Wow way to totally take one part of a larger picture so it helps you justify what you believe. Yes technically they did not go to jail for JUST the rascict aspect of rigging election. They went to jail because they were rigging elections. Let's see though, how were they rigging elections? OH YEAH BY SUPPRESSING BLACK VOTERS. Even the people themselves admit that they were suppressing black voters.

The original poster was saying that people realize this and are sick and tired of the GOP using these tactics to win, and that person was correct.

Actually, I'm being entirely objective about it. You're the one who is interpreting a set of facts to support your preexisting conclusion, by use of ambiguousness and emotional appeals. The Allen case, for example, had nothing to do with racism.

"The idea originated with Charles McGee , who was executive director of the New Hampshire Republican Party, according to court records. McGee, who had served as a helicopter crew chief in the Marine Corps, testified that he learned in the military that ``if you can't communicate, you can't plan and organize," so Democrats would be hampered in their efforts to get voters to the polls if their phones were constantly busy." - Source

Where in there do you see a racist motive? Again, what he did was despicable, just not racist, but the accusation being made is "racism" in the GOP, so we will deal with that claim independently on its merits or lack thereof.


Honestly, whose phone lines do you think they blocked?
 
2008-10-27 02:01:50 PM  

numberoneboob: did some research


I live with my mom. Weak.
 
2008-10-27 02:04:17 PM  

numberonenoob: Someone mentioned that girl who carved the B in her face...

Yeah, someone did some research and she volunteered with the McCain campaign 2 weeks ago, immediately PLASTERED her car with McCain stickers, then ran to the media with this incident, admitted she lied... she kept the story up just long enough for the story to spread around.

The researched part:

Before she joined the McCain campaign she was a hardcore Obama supporter, a frequent poster on Obama blogs and other ultra-liberal websites. She might be crazy and all, but it was an organized set-up against the McCain campaign. Won't hear about it on the tv's though (except maybe fox news, but as the counter-culture news-source nowadays they are discredited to the public majority).


You've made a terrible mistake in posting this, as the following Ron Paul-related posts will haunt you for the rest of your short Fark life:
 
2008-10-27 02:08:16 PM  

infinitedigits: Viss: FredaDeStilleto: It's one thing to substitute one word when you mean another, especially when speaking off-the-cuff. It's another thing to forget an idea or part of an idea. He was really grasping for that 5th name and couldn't focus on the next question.

That's okay for grandpa whose trying to get the kid's names straight. It's not okay for a world leader.

Or knowing how many states there actually are, or saying kids with
athsma use breathalizers...

You farking obama tards are hypocritical assholes and I hate every one of you. Most of you are lower middle class, so obma will screw you first, and I'll laugh and laugh, just like I laughed when Clinton fought to pass NAFTA after campaigning against it.

You idiots never learn, nor could you even name ONE I bet.

I bet your mom voted early for Obama. So much hostility for such a small mind.


It must be frustrating for him to want something so much, and to know he'll never have it.
 
2008-10-27 02:08:41 PM  

numberonenoob: Someone mentioned that girl who carved the B in her face...

Yeah, someone did some research and she volunteered with the McCain campaign 2 weeks ago, immediately PLASTERED her car with McCain stickers, then ran to the media with this incident, admitted she lied... she kept the story up just long enough for the story to spread around.

The researched part:

Before she joined the McCain campaign she was a hardcore Obama supporter, a frequent poster on Obama blogs and other ultra-liberal websites. She might be crazy and all, but it was an organized set-up against the McCain campaign. Won't hear about it on the tv's though (except maybe fox news, but as the counter-culture news-source nowadays they are discredited to the public majority).


[CITATION NEEDED]

"Someone did some research." That's some good citing there, Lou.

When someone claims 'research' but offers no citations...you know that person is full of shiat.
 
2008-10-27 02:09:05 PM  

sideshwtodd: Honestly, whose phone lines do you think they blocked?


Democrats? I don't see any evidence of "racist" intent anywhere. I think you're reading things into this that simply aren't there.

Look, the original poster claimed that the GOP was running on a "racist" platform and campaign. That's the issue here, not whether the GOP uses various dirty tricks to obfuscate democratic voters.
 
2008-10-27 02:12:16 PM  

whizbang: MaxxLarge: Here's a serious question for Republicans: If this doesn't scare the hell out of you, I'd honestly like to know why.

At least Reagan had the decency to wait until he was almost out of office to start up with the Alzheimer's and dementia.

You're joking, yes?


Ummm...Whizbang, you're pretty young, aren't you?!? I can tell.

Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

Given two of those three options involve relative youth, there's a 66% chance of you being too young to know squat about Reagan. Here's a helpful hint: stop skipping the history classes your mommy and daddy are paying for with the wealth they built during the Reagan era.
 
2008-10-27 02:17:47 PM  
I'm a huge Obama supporter, but this is just silly. Obama makes as many word slips as McCain, and as someone who has given really inconsequential interviews on TV (nowhere near the level of "i need your vote to be President of the United States), I can tell you that lists are particularly problematic. Once you mangle the order, it sucks.

This is not, by the way, any indication of alzheimers or his age. I say THAT professionally.
 
2008-10-27 02:20:59 PM  

Number40: whizbang: MaxxLarge: Here's a serious question for Republicans: If this doesn't scare the hell out of you, I'd honestly like to know why.

At least Reagan had the decency to wait until he was almost out of office to start up with the Alzheimer's and dementia.

You're joking, yes?

Ummm...Whizbang, you're pretty young, aren't you?!? I can tell.

Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

Given two of those three options involve relative youth, there's a 66% chance of you being too young to know squat about Reagan. Here's a helpful hint: stop skipping the history classes your mommy and daddy are paying for with the wealth they built during the Reagan era.


Hmmm...I was born in 1974, thus I grew up with Reagan as president. The most my father ever earned in his life was $25,000 a year - and that was just before he retired 3 years ago. So that wealth didn't exactly trickle down to us.

Nuclear family - 2 parents, 2 kids. Yet we did fine - owned a home, 2 cars and were able to go out to eat a couple times a week due to mom's budgeting. Too bad Reaganites don't have the same budget skills.

And your response seems to be claiming that Reagan had dementia and Alzheimer's WAAAAY before the end of his term. Something I would agree with.
 
2008-10-27 02:24:47 PM  

Number40: Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.


So, no one born from 1967 to 1984 ever comes down on Reagan?
 
2008-10-27 02:28:57 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Number40: Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

So, no one born from 1967 to 1984 ever comes down on Reagan?


1970 here, and I'm pretty down on the dude.
Even though he totally tore down the Berlin wall with a single flip of his Brylcreemed Big Boy pompadour.
 
2008-10-27 02:33:41 PM  

libbynomore2: mrshowrules [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 12:56:03 PM
libbynomore2: IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 12:21:52 PM
libbynomore2:

Are you the same libbynomore2 who made a post in the the thread about the killing of Hudson's mother and brother?

You know, the person who used the death of these two people to take a shot at Obama?


Not quite.....but not aurprised that you would be forced to take what I said out of context. I pointed out that despite all of Obama's " community organizing " ( which is really his only experience that you people brag about ) his home town is the murder capital of the U.S.

Are you the same person who believed the backwards B chick's story?


Again, I did in fact give the alleged victim the benefit of the doubt. HOWEVER, unlike those who believed the black stripper who was busted for falsely accusing some white boys at Duke U. Once *I* found out she was lying, I suggested that she not only be charged with filing a false police report, but that she be sentenced to serve the same amount of jail time that someone would have served if convicted of robbery, assault and a hate crime.

In other words you're weak and for purposely misrepresenting what I said ( because that's all you could do I guess ) you earn a Category 5 FAIL
/just checking


You take a shot at Obama (out of the farking blue) in the Hudson murder thread and I am misrepresenting stuff? Really?

Also, I was right about you and that Backward B chick.

/BTW, I never bought the stripper's story in the Duke case. So you, my friend, are 3 for 3 on the fail. I know and you know it.
 
2008-10-27 02:34:39 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: I have never been one to focus on McCain's age because evil mutherfarkers live forever, but in all seriousness, I think he's losing it. I'm not being a McCain basher here. He has aged a decade during the last 2-3 months. As an Obama supporter, seeing him stumble for words and make mental errors was comical, at first. Now, it's concerning. On Saturday, he was speaking at a rally and he just could not get right. Every other sentence he had to go back and correct a word, or pause to re-gather his thoughts. If you saw that interview yesterday you saw an elderly man who, while still lucid, is losing the ability to express himself or to process information quickly. He really looks like he just needs a few weeks of quiet. I hope his vacation starts on Novemner 5th.


The white house fast tracks the aging process in our former leaders. This guy is already antediluvian, what would four years of stress do to him?
 
2008-10-27 02:37:26 PM  

Number40: whizbang: MaxxLarge: Here's a serious question for Republicans: Ummm...Whizbang, you're pretty young, aren't you?!? I can tell. Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics. Given two of those three options involve relative youth, there's a 66% chance of you being too young to know squat about Reagan. Here's a helpful hint: stop skipping the history classes your mommy and daddy are paying for with the wealth they built during the Reagan era.


I made money during the Reagan era solely due to the double-digit interest paid by money market funds, which were hated by the rich Reaganites because inflation means their wealth is worth less. They still hate inflation, and have therefore induced a recession.

/New Yorker who was working while you were still shiatting in your diapers
//voted for Carter (only once), Ed Clark and Fritz
 
2008-10-27 02:41:17 PM  

mcsestretch: Mnemia: Trainspotr: And, there is a "good chunk" (whatever size that might be) of McCain supporters who are voting against the black man, or the arab terrorist, or the radical christian, or the secret muslim, or the secret black arab radical christian terrorist muslim. This doesn't mean they represent McCain supporters any more than the clueless young represent Obama supporters.

The "clueless young"? In my opinion, young people are far MORE informed than the older generations right now, mainly because they are more likely to rely on the Internet for news vs. television. It's the older people who can't handle the information deluge that our society produces now, simply because they didn't grow up in that environment. I would bet that a helluva lot more old people watch Fox News or other idiot pundit shows on cable TV, and I would bet that watching Fox News correlates with negative information gain (in other words, it makes you LESS informed to watch it). Sure, there are stupid, ignorant people in each movement. But I think that most young people who support Obama have concrete, issues-based reasons for doing so (and I know a LOT of Obama supporters). They just might not be issues that McCain supporters think are important (for example, many young people are horrified by the GOP's anti-gay and racist campaign tactics, and that's a concrete, issues-based reason to not vote GOP).

Keep thinking that, pup.


You sold me with the "pup" statement. Clearly, young people don't know a thing and continue to be uninformed.
 
2008-10-27 02:48:38 PM  

whizbang: therefore induced a recession.


Interesting assertion.

www.nairaland.com
 
2008-10-27 02:52:12 PM  

Bruce Campbell Said So: whizbang: therefore induced a recession.

Interesting assertion.


i526.photobucket.com

/I was there; you weren't
//Libertarian was left of Dem at the time
 
2008-10-27 03:03:19 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Number40: whizbang: MaxxLarge: Here's a serious question for Republicans: If this doesn't scare the hell out of you, I'd honestly like to know why.

At least Reagan had the decency to wait until he was almost out of office to start up with the Alzheimer's and dementia.

You're joking, yes?

Ummm...Whizbang, you're pretty young, aren't you?!? I can tell.

Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

Given two of those three options involve relative youth, there's a 66% chance of you being too young to know squat about Reagan. Here's a helpful hint: stop skipping the history classes your mommy and daddy are paying for with the wealth they built during the Reagan era.

Hmmm...I was born in 1974, thus I grew up with Reagan as president. The most my father ever earned in his life was $25,000 a year - and that was just before he retired 3 years ago. So that wealth didn't exactly trickle down to us.

Nuclear family - 2 parents, 2 kids. Yet we did fine - owned a home, 2 cars and were able to go out to eat a couple times a week due to mom's budgeting. Too bad Reaganites don't have the same budget skills.

And your response seems to be claiming that Reagan had dementia and Alzheimer's WAAAAY before the end of his term. Something I would agree with.


Then you fall into the third category. Thanks for clarifying.
 
2008-10-27 03:05:21 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Number40: Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

So, no one born from 1967 to 1984 ever comes down on Reagan?


See also the third category. Thanks for playing and proving my point.
 
2008-10-27 03:08:02 PM  

Trainspotr: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Number40: Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

So, no one born from 1967 to 1984 ever comes down on Reagan?

1970 here, and I'm pretty down on the dude.
Even though he totally tore down the Berlin wall with a single flip of his Brylcreemed Big Boy pompadour.


You started your comment by admitting you're in the third category...even though you reluctantly give credit where credit is due.
 
2008-10-27 03:08:13 PM  

Number40:
Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.


Hmmm...I was born in 1974, thus I grew up with Reagan as president. The most my father ever earned in his life was $25,000 a year - and that was just before he retired 3 years ago. So that wealth didn't exactly trickle down to us.


Then you fall into the third category. Thanks for clarifying.


Ten-year-olds, Dude.
 
2008-10-27 03:09:37 PM  
This is bad news for...aw, screw it!
 
2008-10-27 03:09:37 PM  

Number40: Trainspotr: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Number40: Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

So, no one born from 1967 to 1984 ever comes down on Reagan?

1970 here, and I'm pretty down on the dude.
Even though he totally tore down the Berlin wall with a single flip of his Brylcreemed Big Boy pompadour.

You started your comment by admitting you're in the third category...even though you reluctantly give credit where credit is due.


I was never old enough to vote for Reagan. And something tells me I won't live long enough to do so, either.
 
2008-10-27 03:11:12 PM  

whizbang: Number40: whizbang: MaxxLarge: Here's a serious question for Republicans: Ummm...Whizbang, you're pretty young, aren't you?!? I can tell. Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics. Given two of those three options involve relative youth, there's a 66% chance of you being too young to know squat about Reagan. Here's a helpful hint: stop skipping the history classes your mommy and daddy are paying for with the wealth they built during the Reagan era.

I made money during the Reagan era solely due to the double-digit interest paid by money market funds, which were hated by the rich Reaganites because inflation means their wealth is worth less. They still hate inflation, and have therefore induced a recession.

/New Yorker who was working while you were still shiatting in your diapers
//voted for Carter (only once), Ed Clark and Fritz


Nice try. That double-digit interest weren't really hated by Reaganites - it was part of the Trickle Down. Welcome to Category #3 - too bad you weren't paying attention at the time.
 
2008-10-27 03:12:42 PM  

Number40: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Number40: Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

So, no one born from 1967 to 1984 ever comes down on Reagan?

See also the third category. Thanks for playing and proving my point.


3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

Old enough to vote for Reagan would have to be born prior to 1967.

Thanks for playing, dumbass.
 
2008-10-27 03:12:51 PM  

numberonenoob: hardcore Obama supporter


i526.photobucket.com

Number40: rufus-t-firefly: Number40: whizbang: MaxxLarge:

Then you fall into the third category. Thanks for clarifying.


i526.photobucket.com

/active in NYC politics for a long time; how about you?
 
2008-10-27 03:13:01 PM  

superlawyergirl: Kaltros: wpmulligan: My 64-year-old mother is convinced that McCain forgetting Obamam's name lead to the "the other one" comment. She has senior moments and doesn't want a President who has them, too, so she is voting for Obama.

Bartlet: "You want me to refer to Senator John Hoynes of Texas, who at the moment has a 48-point lead for the Democratic nomination as "the other guy"? You're not afraid it's gonna make me look like I can't remember his name? I am. I think it's gonna make me look like I can't remember his name. I think it's gonna make me look addled. It's gonna make me look dotty. And even if it didn't make me look like that, it would remain a stupid idea. What's next? Nothing? Excellent."

Bartlett for President!!!


I'd vote for him. We could use an intelligent president.
 
2008-10-27 03:14:40 PM  

Number40: rufus-t-firefly: Number40: whizbang: MaxxLarge: Here's a serious question for Republicans: If this doesn't scare the hell out of you, I'd honestly like to know why.

At least Reagan had the decency to wait until he was almost out of office to start up with the Alzheimer's and dementia.

You're joking, yes?

Ummm...Whizbang, you're pretty young, aren't you?!? I can tell.

Those who come down on Reagan fall into one three camps: 1) Born after Reagan was president; 2) Born during his second term; or 3) Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

Given two of those three options involve relative youth, there's a 66% chance of you being too young to know squat about Reagan. Here's a helpful hint: stop skipping the history classes your mommy and daddy are paying for with the wealth they built during the Reagan era.

Hmmm...I was born in 1974, thus I grew up with Reagan as president. The most my father ever earned in his life was $25,000 a year - and that was just before he retired 3 years ago. So that wealth didn't exactly trickle down to us.

Nuclear family - 2 parents, 2 kids. Yet we did fine - owned a home, 2 cars and were able to go out to eat a couple times a week due to mom's budgeting. Too bad Reaganites don't have the same budget skills.

And your response seems to be claiming that Reagan had dementia and Alzheimer's WAAAAY before the end of his term. Something I would agree with.

Then you fall into the third category. Thanks for clarifying.



Category 3: Were old enough to vote for Reagan, but don't know a thing about politics.

Okay...I wasn't old enough to vote for Reagan, but I lived in a politically active household. So both counts are incorrect. You suck at categorizing.

I note that you ignored the fact that my parents did build wealth during the Reagan era, since it doesn't fit into the generalizations you made.


Thanks for clarifying.

Thanks for playing and proving my point.


The smartassed use of 'Thanks.' The mark of a truely smug douchebag.
 
2008-10-27 03:16:11 PM  

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: robotpirateninja: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Evolutionary alpha male behavior. Objectively it has little value, but it's still largely the basis upon which idiots vote and women choose their lays.

Objectively, it keeps lemmings from running off the cliff.

It's the lion's roar that scares away the hyenas.

It's the calm and gentle voice of God (or Moses).

Really, there is something to be said for having an old wise one around.

/but there is a difference betwee him and the old crazy one.

We're not talking about wisdom, we're talking about leadership soft skills in isolation as a type of personality, divorced from all merit, wisdom, or intelligence.

For example, put a charismatic former high school football jock in with a few pasty nerds on an engineering project and he'll use his alpha male leadership qualities to intimidate them into line behind his ideas. That doesn't mean he knows anything about engineering or that the nerds wouldn't be better off without him, but he gets to lead them because they're too weak-willed and socially inept to question him. It worked alright when we were all ape-men foraging for food and fighting off big cats on the plains, but when complex issues arise it can be a very backwards form of organization, because frequently the people with the objectively worst capacity for understanding things get to make the decisions for everyone else.


Partner this with the 'Peter Principle' and you get our current administration...
 
2008-10-27 03:17:32 PM  

whizbang: Bruce Campbell Said So: whizbang: therefore induced a recession.

Interesting assertion.

/I was there; you weren't
//Libertarian was left of Dem at the time



First of all, the "I was there; you weren't" arguement is hilarious. It connotates an inherent intelligence based 100% on presence and throws away things such as education, personal experience, research etc. Therefore, it doesn't bear much mention.

Second of all, I was obviously quoting the end of your sentence that was referring to the rich "inducing a recession" and laughed, posted a random witty picture and went about my business, writing you off as some tinfoil hat wearing liberal conspiracy theorist. I was fairly certain that I didn't need to quote the whole thing, that you would understand and in the interest of brevity deleted most of it. I was proven wrong. Either that or you wanted to give a shoutout to the Clark/Koch ticket.

/yes, I'm familiar with Dave Koch
//been in his office, you haven't
 
2008-10-27 03:18:05 PM  

libbynomore2: I always wondered how on earth we came to a point in this country where there were so many mindless drones who are so easily duped.

Oh, and just so we're clear, media bias is just a myth..oh wait (new window)


Would the fact that, during the Reagan administration, we spent like 2 cents of every tax dollar on education and 50 cents on defense have anything to do with it?
 
2008-10-27 03:19:06 PM  

libbynomore2: IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] Quote 2008-10-27 12:21:52 PM
libbynomore2: IXI Jim IXI


hey that was a cute picture. What's sad is that the Democrats are excited about bringing back their America's WORST DAYS.

Carter/Mondale

McCain wishes he was anywhere near as competent as Carter.


Now why on earth would you want to embarrass yourself with such a ridiculous and ludicrous statement?

SERIOUSLY?


Why do you say half the crap that spews out of that open sewage pipe of ignorance you call a mouth?
 
2008-10-27 03:22:58 PM  

Number40: whizbang: Number40: whizbang: MaxxLarge: That double-digit interest weren't really hated by Reaganites


Oh, the hate started way earlier. That's why I voted against this guy:

i526.photobucket.com
 
2008-10-27 03:26:36 PM  
And, what's the name of "that one" that supported Obama....oh right, it's COLIN POWELL. Boo-yah!!!
 
2008-10-27 03:33:37 PM  

scalpod: libbynomore2: I always wondered how on earth we came to a point in this country where there were so many mindless drones who are so easily duped.

Oh, and just so we're clear, media bias is just a myth..oh wait (new window)

Would the fact that, during the Reagan administration, we spent like 2 cents of every tax dollar on education and 50 cents on defense have anything to do with it?


That may be true, but only Carter (D) and Ford (R) spent less on defense since Eisenhower, so there must have been a good reason for Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Bush and Clinton to spend more than Reagan ever did on that. As for the second Bush, I'm a conservative and I still think he's dumber than a sack of hair a lot of the time.

Citation - Link
 
2008-10-27 03:36:21 PM  

SuperSly728: And, what's the name of "that one" that supported Obama....oh right, it's COLIN POWELL. Boo-yah!!!


a497.ac-images.myspacecdn.com
 
2008-10-27 03:41:58 PM  

Bruce Campbell Said So: whizbang: Bruce Campbell Said So: whizbang:

/familiar with Dave Koch
//been in his office


this one?

i526.photobucket.com
 
2008-10-27 03:49:22 PM  
Meh. Who cares.

/no I don't like the guy
//he's just too damn old, for starters
 
2008-10-27 03:55:24 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Number40: rufus-t-firefly: Number40: whizbang: MaxxLarge: a truely smug douchebag.


You've called out Number40 and scared him away.

Probably an alt.

/definitely a newb
 
2008-10-27 04:07:54 PM  

Jument: Meh. Who cares.

/no I don't like the guy
//he's just too damn old, for starters


"Ideal" Cabinet member (either ticket) Warren Buffett would be 82 by the end of the term; he's 6 years older than McCain.

There are different kinds of old....

/...
//where was I going with this?
 
2008-10-27 04:23:35 PM  
My perception of that video is that he was nervous and tired. Hell, I've forgotten people's names who were close friends for years, and I'm only 40. But he remembered it fairly quickly and made sure to say it. The forgetting isn't the big deal - it's how he handled it - obvious embarrassment and clumsiness. Timing and circumstances are unfortunate though - he obviously has given the impression of being addlepated even if he weren't.
 
2008-10-27 04:56:41 PM  

Flavivirus: I'm a huge Obama supporter, but this is just silly. Obama makes as many word slips as McCain, and as someone who has given really inconsequential interviews on TV (nowhere near the level of "i need your vote to be President of the United States), I can tell you that lists are particularly problematic. Once you mangle the order, it sucks.

This is not, by the way, any indication of alzheimers or his age. I say THAT professionally.


I'm an alzheimers doctor, so I'm really getting a kick.

Mccain also said he agrees that Western Pennsylvania is racist and said the C*NT word the other day.

Clearly, he's an old asshat with old-man smell.
 
2008-10-27 05:16:40 PM  

SquirrelWithLargeNuts:
You can be guilty but not be convicted. Guilt just requires breaking the law, conviction requires a lengthy court process etc.


sorry, but the answer provided is incorrect. From teh Bart Simpson "gettin' away with it" field manual:

You are only guilty if caught.

(see also chapter regarding denial: "I didn't do it. You never saw me do it. You can't prove anything")
 
2008-10-27 05:24:36 PM  

Close2TheEdge:
THANK YOU! I am sick to farking death of people who are so-called "undecided." Every four years we go through this stupidity. I actually saw a couple on CNN over the weekend whining about how hard it was to choose. No it isn't. Study the positions of the candidates, make a list, and tally up the results. If you can;t make a strong decision based on that alone, then you should vote opposite because you are lying to yourself about your positions.

All this political crap we have to deal with everyday is because of you attention whores.


Ok, here's my list:

Obama, Voted for patriot act? Yes. No vote.
McCain, Voted for patriot act? Yes. No vote.

Thanks! that made my jorb easy!
 
2008-10-27 06:08:55 PM  

What_do_you_want_now: Yay leftist hate! Taste just as great as Rightie hate, but with more gay marriage!

Mmm, nothing like a good Youtube smear to start the workweek.

/ Strongbad/Strongsad 2008!!


No wonder you morans suck at this. You don't even know what smears are anymore.

/for it to be a smear, it would have to be a lie.
//But the McCain/Palin supporters have been using theirs up.
 
2008-10-27 06:29:55 PM  
I'm guessing this is a "commie" link because in the video, McCain sounds like he's losing his memory slightly more then usual?
 
2008-10-27 07:53:33 PM  
Henry the Secretary supports me!
So does Larry the Secretary!
And Al the Secretary!
And Jim the Secretary!
And that other guy the Secretary!
 
2008-10-27 08:02:25 PM  
i260.photobucket.com
 
2008-10-27 08:18:51 PM  

Bruce Campbell Said So: scalpod: libbynomore2: I always wondered how on earth we came to a point in this country where there were so many mindless drones who are so easily duped.

Oh, and just so we're clear, media bias is just a myth..oh wait (new window)

Would the fact that, during the Reagan administration, we spent like 2 cents of every tax dollar on education and 50 cents on defense have anything to do with it?

That may be true, but only Carter (D) and Ford (R) spent less on defense since Eisenhower, so there must have been a good reason for Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Bush and Clinton to spend more than Reagan ever did on that. As for the second Bush, I'm a conservative and I still think he's dumber than a sack of hair a lot of the time.

Citation - Link


You're right of course. I shouldn't have unfairly picked on Reagan like that. They've pretty much all supported building bigger, better, badder bombs while an idiot sits with their finger on the trigger.

And I'm not talking about the troops...
 
2008-10-28 12:00:34 AM  
ummm...uhhh....

DON'T FORGET POLAND!
 
2008-10-28 02:29:52 PM  
Uh, he said George Shultz before the end of the 30 second video clip, didn't he?

Bottom line: Obama's a dope, but so are too many Americans to count. Let's just hope most of you forget which day grownups go vote: November 8th!
 
2008-10-28 09:48:33 PM  
Is it me or does McCain sound like Emmet Otter?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8dzWJtME3Q
 
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