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(SacBee)   Much like kids who peek at their presents on Christmas Eve, old people have the highest rate of suicide   (sacbee.com) divider line 45
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2008-10-20 07:46:32 PM
My grandfather shot himself a couple of years ago. His father was a miserable prick, and my grandfather was unhappy himself. Apparently his wife started to suspect that something was wrong in the weeks before the incident.

I hadn't talked to him in maybe 10 years. It wasn't like there was an unsettled disagreement, we just didn't keep in touch. You better believe I felt guilty. It really made my mom weird for awhile. She's doing a lot better now and it brought her closer to her two brothers.

Anyway, that's enough "sad" from me. What the hell is this headline supposed to even mean?
 
2008-10-20 08:17:40 PM
Add me to the group that got the fark confused out of them by that headline.
 
Byn
2008-10-20 08:18:55 PM
Okay, I choked on that headline. Well done, Subby.
 
2008-10-20 08:19:32 PM
Pegasus_CAG: Add me to the group that got the fark confused out of them by that headline.

Right there with ya. Subby gets a failtag.
 
2008-10-20 08:19:38 PM
The headline, it is amazing.
 
2008-10-20 08:20:04 PM
I think its something along the lines of "Old people are on the eve of death anyway, and they just can't wait"

I found it funny. Horrible, but funny.
 
2008-10-20 08:20:28 PM
jaylectricity: My grandfather shot himself a couple of years ago. His father was a miserable prick, and my grandfather was unhappy himself. Apparently his wife started to suspect that something was wrong in the weeks before the incident.

I hadn't talked to him in maybe 10 years. It wasn't like there was an unsettled disagreement, we just didn't keep in touch. You better believe I felt guilty. It really made my mom weird for awhile. She's doing a lot better now and it brought her closer to her two brothers.

Anyway, that's enough "sad" from me. What the hell is this headline supposed to even mean?


I was going to say a snarky comment, but then this made me sad.

I think the subby was trying to imply that for older people death is a good thing.
 
2008-10-20 08:21:26 PM
Old people suffer from the most health problems. It's no wonder they commit suicide most often. It ain't easy being old.
 
2008-10-20 08:22:00 PM
Excellent headline. If I had TF I'd +1 you, but since I'm just a liter +eleventy
 
2008-10-20 08:22:06 PM
I don't see the problem. Save some of that Social Security money for us.

/for us, I mean people on the bottom who deserve the same chances that Joe the Plumber has had and can't have those chances without a government handout
 
2008-10-20 08:22:49 PM
I don't know. If I were elderly, frail and in failing health I might seriously consider it. Who wants to live the rest of their lives like that?
 
2008-10-20 08:22:57 PM
So if I look at my presents, I'm gonna die???
 
2008-10-20 08:23:08 PM
When I get old and my health begins to fail, I will be picking my own checkout time. I don't understand why some people live in pain and misery when they know it's just a matter of time. Gonna go on a fun drug binge, perhaps fly to Columbia or Bolivia to go off. Not too messy, and spares the family from dealing with finding my body.
 
2008-10-20 08:23:10 PM
I once peeked at my presents on Christmas Eve and tried to kill myself, too.
 
2008-10-20 08:23:13 PM
Dispector:
I think the subby was trying to imply that for older people death is a good thing.


Okay, I get a failtag. I get it now.

My apologies. That was quite funny.
 
2008-10-20 08:23:24 PM
This is probably the first headline since the T-shirts were implemented to be worthy of one.
A+ Subby
 
2008-10-20 08:25:08 PM
I am sad. I keep telling myself to stay alive long enough to see this Hobbit movie they're going to make.

But I'm still drinking Coca Cola.

So who knows?
 
2008-10-20 08:25:30 PM
Really sad for everyone involved when this sort of thing happens. But I think for a lot of older adults, it just sucks to watch yourself wither away and not be able to do anything about it.

That's why I'm becoming an alcoholic early in life, so I don't live past middle age.
 
2008-10-20 08:27:41 PM
FarkinHostile: When I get old and my health begins to fail, I will be picking my own checkout time. I don't understand why some people live in pain and misery when they know it's just a matter of time. Gonna go on a fun drug binge, perhaps fly to Columbia or Bolivia to go off. Not too messy, and spares the family from dealing with finding my body.


My pops used to talk like this. "When I retire, I'm going bear hunting and I'm going to surf up and down the coast - especially where sharks have been sighted".

Now that he's old, he talks about recipes for gluten-free corn muffins and complains about the BCS.
 
2008-10-20 08:35:16 PM
rodeofrog

My pops used to talk like this. "When I retire, I'm going bear hunting and I'm going to surf up and down the coast - especially where sharks have been sighted".

Now that he's old, he talks about recipes for gluten-free corn muffins and complains about the BCS.


Heh, a fate worse than death.

But really, I have been pretty consistant with my "future planning". Many people have told me over the years "Oh, you'll change your mind blah, blah, blah) but I have done exactly what I said I would regarding life choices.

I have little doubt I will follow through.
 
2008-10-20 08:36:19 PM
it should be your right to punch your own ticket when you get to a certain age. the social security office should send you a suicide pill at age 65 to hang on to for the right time.

Or you could just send me off on an ice drift.
 
2008-10-20 08:41:51 PM
pugsleythegreat: it should be your right to punch your own ticket when you get to a certain age. the social security office should send you a suicide pill at age 65 to hang on to for the right time.

Or you could just send me off on an ice drift.


Sanctuary.
 
2008-10-20 08:52:13 PM
Brooks was here
 
2008-10-20 08:57:28 PM
I don't understand why people think it's wrong to kill yourself. When my life is so miserable that I don't get any pleasure out of it I'm taking myself out. Why the hell would I want to live in a life without any future hope or pleasure?
 
2008-10-20 09:02:41 PM
When I get to the point that the cost of keeping me alive is more than it's worth, I think I'll disappear. Drop off the grid altogether. And then I'll go off to some beautiful place to bite it like the guy in "Into the Wild".

And the death-date on my tombstone will be "?"
 
2008-10-20 09:09:00 PM
I see what you did there subby.
 
2008-10-20 09:10:14 PM
eddyatwork: I don't understand why people think it's wrong to kill yourself. When my life is so miserable that I don't get any pleasure out of it I'm taking myself out. Why the hell would I want to live in a life without any future hope or pleasure?

Especially when you don't bring anybody else any future hope or pleasure.

I agree.
 
2008-10-20 09:12:33 PM
A friend of mine used to deliver food for the "Meals on Wheels" program. She said, for most of the people, she was the only person they would see all day. Some of them had no phone or tv. They would just sit in a chair all day, alone. On Fridays, they would get extra meals for the weekend because they didn't deliver on Saturday or Sunday which meant that nobody would be stopping by to see them for 2 days. She finally quit because it was too depressing for her.
 
2008-10-20 09:13:32 PM
Malicoire_: Pegasus_CAG: Add me to the group that got the fark confused out of them by that headline.

Right there with ya. Subby gets a failtag.


The kids killed themselves because they got pictures of your mom for Christmas.
 
2008-10-20 09:16:22 PM
that headline is full 'o win.
 
19
2008-10-20 09:26:14 PM
EddieMoscone got it in one.

I've quietly planned this since I was about seventeen and realized what the end of life holds. Misery? Huge bills for my remaining loved ones? No, sorry, I'ma smoke a lot, drink a lot, possibly off a pretty boi or two, and die happy and IN MY OWN TIME. Y'all vultures that wanted to rape what little I saved on nursing home and etc can just whine about "the sanctity of life"

If I'm hating every second and I'm taking AWAY from what bounty my remaining reason to "live" has to share with the young, what the fark is "sanctified" about that?

No state, no government, NOBODY has the right, btw, to tell me what I can and cannot do with my own body. I don't care what y'all wrote on a piece of paper all official-like and got the other monkeys to sign. Right is right and wrong is wrong and MINE IS MINE and it isn't yours by fiat.

Even if "that" is drugs, surgery, tattoos, gender, amputations, amplifications, dye, makeup, clothing, cybernetics, mutations, etc. And it harm none. Do as thou wilt. Sorry, I'm my OWN to harm if I chose. Perhaps it should say AND IT HARM NONE OTHER THAN THYSELF DO AS THOU WILT IS THE WHOLE OF THE LAW since y'all keep needing clarifications.

Hint: Hurt FEELINGS is not harm. It does hurt, I grant, but that's part of life. How selfish is it to want everyone to do what makes YOU suffer less grief--not HARM--just "OMG that was stressful and sad."

WELCOME TO EARTH.

THIS is how we got into this government mess to begin with.

(sigh)
 
2008-10-20 09:32:59 PM
19: EddieMoscone got it in one.

I can't argue with the rest of the post, but what did "Brooks" have to do with anything?
 
2008-10-20 09:49:48 PM
But.. it... It's a sin to commit suicide! y'all'll go to hell, or at least not get a good burial plot spot!

Did I troll right?

I've definitely thought about it too, I'm not up there yet, but if my eyes go, I'll be a Helen Keller. No thanks.

/I guess by the time I'm older painless suicide will be an art form.
 
2008-10-20 10:25:03 PM
I wonder what the numbers are like in Oregon, where not only is it legal to kill yourself, but we'll even help out to make it an easy and painless process


/beats the hell out of terminal cancer
 
2008-10-20 11:11:00 PM
When I finally decide on an ending, a whole lot of innocent people are going with me.
 
2008-10-20 11:42:54 PM
EviLincoln: When I finally decide on an ending, a whole lot of innocent people are going with me.

Innocent?

No one is innocent in this world, bucko!
 
2008-10-20 11:45:27 PM
jaylectricity

www.draplin.com

/hotlinked
 
2008-10-21 01:07:40 AM
i dont think there's anything wrong with it. my dad's dad blew his brains out at 76. He'd already suffered 7 strokes (2 major, 5 mild), had 3 organ failure surgeries (1 kidney, 1 lung and his liver) and could no longer walk on his own. he was 76 and spent a good 8 years of it terribly miserable. i'm glad he got what he wanted, some peace. he begrudgingly stayed alive long enough for the rest of us, certainly we can endure the pain of him leaving us a little earlier than planned so he can no longer be in pain.
 
2008-10-21 01:33:41 AM
But, but, but, the HMO hasn't taken all your savings and your house and car yet, and your kids can get a loan. You can't die yet, you haven't paid this years taxes. You have to stay alive as long as there is anything they can squeeze out of you and not one minute longer,
 
2008-10-21 02:59:52 AM
Subby = magnificence
 
2008-10-21 03:32:08 AM
T shirt worthy
 
2008-10-21 05:49:53 AM
Subby:

That was an awesome joke-bomb. It went off about ten seconds after I saw it, to devistating effect. I LOL'd.
 
2008-10-21 03:16:46 PM
jaylectricity: My grandfather shot himself a couple of years ago. His father was a miserable prick, and my grandfather was unhappy himself. Apparently his wife started to suspect that something was wrong in the weeks before the incident.

I hadn't talked to him in maybe 10 years. It wasn't like there was an unsettled disagreement, we just didn't keep in touch. You better believe I felt guilty. It really made my mom weird for awhile. She's doing a lot better now and it brought her closer to her two brothers.

Anyway, that's enough "sad" from me. What the hell is this headline supposed to even mean?


I'm disturbed by your post as it hits home. You really can't call gramps dad a "prick". If you did not know him, you have only heard one side of a story. He may well have been a "prick", but you have no facts to back that up.

I have been an unhappy husband/father that is approaching 48 yrs old (12 days from now). My wife when young was a lovely young woman worth loving. I have since experienced a number of situations that have caused me to re-evaluate my situation. Could I have been a better husband and father? Certainly. Was I a failure? Only by a view of people I wouldn't respect anyway. You love and do what you do based on your internal value system.

I've had many deep happy moments in the years I've been with my family, so I won't say I regret what has happened. Pretty much from birth through junior high school.

I will say though that I have a 23 yr old son that I'm paying his tuition each semester and completely treats me as dirt. The only reason why I haven't stopped payment is that I made a promise to pay for the college. Unlike him, I have morals.

The end result is I will disown the entire family of wife and two sons in about two years or so (once my promise of paying for the tuition is complete).

Will I be viewed as a "prick" like your gramp's dad? Likely since the only view that goes to the legacy family is single sided. Do I care.. No, not to any degree.

My primary regret is that my git are as lame as they are. I would have been happy to have been a grandpa that indulges the grand kids, but my wife killed that wish. I just wish my two sons have a good future, and end up happy. The wife? I really don't care any more. Note that I didn't beat up on the wife.... we all change over the years, and end up with different needs.
 
2008-10-21 06:37:51 PM
that reminds me of the fark headline about being able to inherit someone's possessions if you assist them in suicide.
 
2008-10-22 08:11:51 AM
eddyatwork: I don't understand why people think it's wrong to kill yourself. When my life is so miserable that I don't get any pleasure out of it I'm taking myself out. Why the hell would I want to live in a life without any future hope or pleasure?

...and you don't even have to be old to feel like that either...
 
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