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(Some Guy)   High school teacher uses fantasy football to teach his students about math. "There were some kids who didn't even know what a quarterback was."   (pantagraph.com) divider line 79
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2008-10-20 01:55:21 AM
The gay boys and the girls, maybe?
 
2008-10-20 02:01:46 AM
Glad to know they've got that vital information covered, now.
 
2008-10-20 02:12:49 AM
The number of high schoolers who can tell you what a quarterback is, is inversely proportional to the number of them who have seen the end boss in MH or even know who Archimonde is.
 
2008-10-20 02:27:36 AM
dillenger69: The number of high schoolers who can tell you what a quarterback is, is inversely proportional to the number of them who have seen the end boss in MH or even know who Archimonde is.

Should I be proud that I'm unaware of all three?
 
2008-10-20 03:35:21 AM
I'm #1 in my fantasy football league and I've completed Mount Hyjal, and have my tier6 helm to show for it. What do I win?
 
2008-10-20 03:39:24 AM
wholedamnshow: I'm #1 in my fantasy football league and I've completed Mount Hyjal, and have my tier6 helm to show for it. What do I win?

www.horrordvds.com
 
2008-10-20 03:46:10 AM
"There were some kids who didn't even know what a quarterback was."

Sure they do. It's what you get after you buy a chocolate bar with a $1 bill.

/drtfa
 
2008-10-20 03:50:39 AM
complete FAIL.

Way to use a paradigm which discriminates, jackhole teacher.

How about coming up with something that EVERYONE can understand...like beating the house at blackjack and taking home the houses money?
 
2008-10-20 03:51:38 AM
I would have liked to have gone to a High School like that.

Alas, I am from Texas. My football-embracing friends consider this blasphemy or "unpossible."
 
2008-10-20 03:52:39 AM
This is silly. You do the math.
 
2008-10-20 03:54:43 AM
img1.fark.net

//bravo
 
2008-10-20 03:54:50 AM
Isn't American Football indoctrinated into the US psyche from a young age? I'd have thought a Quarterback would have been the one position that they'd have heard of, sports fans or not?
 
2008-10-20 03:55:50 AM
Seems like a good idea to make math interesting. I guess if you teach at a school that is described by words in quotation marks, you need to be creative. (Known as a "therapudic" high school...whose "educational and social needs..." etc)

The principal's name is Gelfand. Didn't she die in the last Harry Potter book? Or did she kill Dumbledor?

/Taking the hall pass and going on my way
 
2008-10-20 04:09:08 AM
We clearly need high schools to focus even more on sports.
 
2008-10-20 04:13:16 AM
Quarterback, halfback, fullback.

no one ever learns fractions anymore...
 
2008-10-20 04:17:00 AM
What, is this town Amish?
 
2008-10-20 04:26:37 AM
fark. I went to a high school that was obsessed with football (Well, what HS isn't these days), and the football team got so many free passes it was disgusting. I didn't like football, I despised the team, and the cheerleaders were sluts who got just as many free passes because they were willing to act like sluts. It was bad enough that every time I went into the library I saw the giant poster of that professional football player who got famous and coincidentally graduated from that high school. The teachers practically fellated them. Joe, you can take the quiz on Monday, because you have football on Friday. Josh, you have to be here for the quiz or you'll fail, your family should have scheduled the funeral for a Saturday.

Using football in a math class just seems to be crossing some ethical boundary. Like torture at Gitmo. Hold on, I'm going to teach you how to interrogate this prisoner. To give you a better idea of what kind of information we're looking for, I'm going to cut off his testicles and drive flaming bamboo under his nails.

Yes, Mr. All-Knowing Teacher, it is possible that some people might lack knowledge about sports in which they are not interested. It seems kind of dumb to have to tell you this, because the coaches and gym teachers always seem to think that, unless you are already in a position on the football team, that you are a complete moron that knows nothing about the sport. You are not training athletes. You are teaching math. There's a reason that the students are taking this class. They are trying to learn about math. Not farking football. This may be hard to believe, but there are a lot of people who genuinely want to learn about math. And not farking football.

Unless you have one of the easy classes that football players take to keep from flunking out of high school. Which means that they technically graduate with what can laughingly be called a high school education.

What it also means is that when I see one of the former high school football players in the store, I should not assume that they're a cashier, and if they are, to move to another line to avoid the potential for mix ups like trying to count how many pears I have when they are on sale at two for a dollar, coming up with a different number three times, and then asking for $1.75 or something stupid like that.

I also like to avoid you in the checkout line because you seem to think that my apple cider contains alcohol. I'm not like you. This is apple cider, not crap. And definitely not anything like the crap you drank in high school, which has reduced your brain cell count in much the same way that the white man hunted Buffalo in the new world, except that people still care about the Buffalo.

/has issues.
 
2008-10-20 04:35:27 AM
12inpianist: wharrgarble

I can understand your personal sentiments concerning HS football and the constant glorification of the jocks and their slutty cheerleaders.
On the other hand, this teacher was using football and the scoring system to create a practical application through which he teaches math. Of course, lots of other subjects can be found that will do the same trick, but he also has to play to his own strong suits.
If he knows a whole lot about football and the math part of it, it's a good choice for him. It also seems the students picked up on it well enough.

I, for one, really prefer to use problems and situations when teaching math, since strict theoretical teaching simply sucks. Math is a tool to quantify and predict situations in the real world and should be taught as such. When the skill is too far removed from the application of said skill, it becomes very hard to find interest in it, especially in youngsters.
 
2008-10-20 04:41:47 AM
ZurkisPhreek: wharrgarble

wharrgarble wharrgarble wharrgarble wharrgarble wharrgarble.

I didn't always hate football. But if I had a teacher try to pull this, I would have changed classes for a different math class. Failing that, flunking would have been a better alternative for me.

Make it personal with something they like. Not with something you like.

Sorry for the wharrgarble-ing. I'm coming out of a flu-coma and feeling just a little edgy. Plus, I haven't had any actual food in about four and a half days.
 
2008-10-20 04:45:33 AM
I keep the math simple. I follow the Seahawks.
 
2008-10-20 04:51:52 AM
The nerds would have gained valuable information on participating in a mainstream recreation. Girls could beat their fathers in tipping competitions. One of the kids might even use the new skills to win some money.
It isn't all bad.

/just glad that highschool is over
 
2008-10-20 04:55:30 AM
12inpianist

Make it personal with something they like. Not with something you like.

But, how can you apply math to matching those fabulous pink silk oxfords to the magnificent skin-tight studded pants?
 
2008-10-20 05:07:27 AM
i always find fantasy football so ironic. here you have a generally jockish sport and jockish followers and you have them playing hard core role playing games. if people just put hit points on trading cards, you would see grown manly men playing a D&D like version of football and putting down cards like "astro-turf: all players are +4 speed but have +7 injurablity"
 
2008-10-20 05:21:18 AM
mxwjs

i always find fantasy football so ironic. here you have a generally jockish sport and jockish followers and you have them playing hard core role playing games. if people just put hit points on trading cards, you would see grown manly men playing a D&D like version of football and putting down cards like "astro-turf: all players are +4 speed but have +7 injurablity"

Indeed. All people can be fit into a small number of stereotypes and never vary from them. That's why fantasy football is so ironic. You have people called "nerds" who only play D&D and RPGs and are either very far or very scrawny and are not ever interested in football or other physical sports from this century in the slightest, and then you have other people called "jocks" who are all large manly men who always bully other kids and have a monomanical devotion to kicking the other team's ass and touching other jocks' buttocks. It's inconceivable that anyone would be interested in both sports like football and strategy games like D&D.
 
2008-10-20 05:34:11 AM
aerojockey:
But, how can you apply math to matching those fabulous pink silk oxfords to the magnificent skin-tight studded pants?


Well, in the retail world, a store might have X amount of room for shoes. That area will be divided into separate parts for different shoes, one of those being Oxfords. The part for Oxfords, O, will further be divided into different sizes, and color after that. We know that a percentage of the population like.... wharrgarble.

Sorry, I can't go on. I'll just skip to the punchline, aerojockey is a flaming homo that likes to wear tights and pink shoes. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2008-10-20 05:41:55 AM
Good for them! I was smack-dab in elementary school during the Reagan years and "A Nation at Risk," which meant placing us in a sterile environment of drill and kill - boring textbook and basal materials were thrust before us and anything remotely right-brained was squelched.

I am one who's easily distracted, so I thrived in that quiet environment. Funny, though - the real world isn't sterile. I got my ass handed to me as a young adult. But boy, can I ever multiply three digit numbers by three digit numbers in case I'm marooned on a deserted island without a calculator!
 
2008-10-20 05:51:14 AM
Quarterback?

Um, I know in Europe they call it a Royale With Cheese ...
 
2008-10-20 05:56:20 AM
Uh darr whaaat? He don't know whut a quarterback izz?! TEH LAWL! Wut an idiot I wtach football so much itz the best for real go cowboyz!!
 
2008-10-20 06:40:25 AM
The typical Farker?

shallmakenolaw.com
 
2008-10-20 06:50:13 AM
Should this get the img1.fark.net tag?
 
2008-10-20 06:57:58 AM
discost00: Isn't American Football indoctrinated into the US psyche from a young age? I'd have thought a Quarterback would have been the one position that they'd have heard of, sports fans or not?

Oh, I've heard of a quarterback; I just have no idea what they do. Nor do I care.
 
2008-10-20 07:01:22 AM
I'm an Aussie, and I know what a quarterback is. It's the band that broke up Nickleback, and damned proud of them I am too.

/A quarterback wouldn't last 2 seconds in an Aussie rugby league game, mainly 'cause we don't use quarterbacks ;-) Seriously though, our league players are renowned psychotics.
 
2008-10-20 07:05:08 AM
wholedamnshow: I'm #1 in my fantasy football league and I've completed Mount Hyjal, and have my tier6 helm to show for it. What do I win?

To be fair, we cleared the first four bosses on saturday afternoon in 45mins, 5-healed with my druid^ as one of them. Doesn't mean much anymore. (Got the mace and the boots that run because nobody wanted them.) Gonna see if I can get in on the drood on Illidan tonight.

Actually on topic, I think that the people who are obsessed with sports really should look at themselves. I love somebody walking up to me about the Red Sox or Pats and saying "We WON WE WON!!!" "When did you join that team?" I ask them. Sports in general are stupid. At least when I sit and play WoW I'm in control of what's going on on-screen.
 
2008-10-20 07:12:08 AM
wrenchboy: Should this get the tag?

Yes, yes it should.
 
2008-10-20 07:22:12 AM
I suppose that it's one way to help students understand math. Nowadays you probably have to try everything you can to make the little freaks pay attention.

All I can really say about fantasy sports is this-- none of you can make fun of me for playing a variety of RPG's in High School. That is officially, officially no longer an option.

So I guess that's one favor fantasy sports have done for me.

/Don't care about football, either
//Don't understand it, don't care, didn't cave when my track coach was constantly bothering me to join the football team-- he flat out didn't understand why a big guy in High school wouldn't want to play football
 
2008-10-20 07:26:04 AM
I'm assuming they would be the ones that don't need help with math.

//stopped watching football 25 years ago when they began dancing and prancing for ten minutes at TD and games became unbearably long.
 
2008-10-20 07:33:09 AM
mrbach: /stopped watching football 25 years ago when they began dancing and prancing for ten minutes at TD and games became unbearably long

maybe you ought to give it a try again, they outlawed a lot of excessive celebration, and have shortened the games a little.
 
2008-10-20 07:34:17 AM
I am about to get my teaching certification, and I had actually thought about how to use fantasy sports to teach math, especially statistics. This is cool.
 
2008-10-20 07:40:30 AM
unyon: "There were some kids who didn't even know what a quarterback was."

Sure they do. It's what you get after you buy a chocolate bar with a $1 bill.

/drtfa


In Canada, that's a Nickleback.
 
2008-10-20 07:43:15 AM
Football is highly homosexual.
 
2008-10-20 08:01:11 AM
Back in Jr. High, I had a math teacher who was also a baseball coach. He had a game called "Math Baseball" that was a great teaching aid. I have to say, he was one of the best, most innovative teachers I've ever met. He kept us interested and kept us learning.

/Here's to you, Mr. Gurholt
 
2008-10-20 08:03:46 AM
paulseta: A quarterback wouldn't last 2 seconds in an Aussie rugby league game, mainly 'cause we don't use quarterbacks ;-) Seriously though, our league players are renowned psychotics.

Aussie rules football remains the best sporting event that ESPN has ever shown.

/even if I had to stay up until 2am to see it
// go Adelaide!
\\\some anti-clockwise slashies for the Aussies
 
2008-10-20 08:13:52 AM
Zerk Schrader: All I can really say about fantasy sports is this-- none of you can make fun of me for playing a variety of RPG's in High School. That is officially, officially no longer an option.


As a former RPG dork in high school and current Fantasy Footballer, sadly thats not entirely true. Even in your mid 20s, your going to get a lot less shiat when people find out about your fantasy football hobby than if they find out about your AD&D hobby or Warhammer 40k collection.
 
2008-10-20 08:16:30 AM
Quick Quiz:
Which statement would cause far more shock and horror in the general American populace?

(A) "There were some kids who didn't even know what a quarterback was."

(B) "There were some kids who didn't even know what a denominator is."

Sadly for the USA, we all know the answer. Which is why the rest of the world is snickering at them. Yes, even the Axis of Evil - those guys snicker the most.

/ nobody ever ruled the world using the power of football, son.
// so crack that textbook open and start learnin'
/// before some terrist learns to build a decent V2 rocket.
//// Us or them son, with us or against us.
 
2008-10-20 08:17:11 AM
benlonghair: At least when I sit and play WoW I'm in control of what's going on on-screen.

Getting excited for your team winning is no more less pathetic than getting excited that you happen to find a guild with enough people who can pay attention and follow relatively simple instructions.
 
2008-10-20 08:18:40 AM
ColaMan: (B) "There were some kids who didn't even know what a denominator is."

Dude, kids don't need to get into S&M at that age.
 
2008-10-20 08:19:08 AM
SphericalTime: The gay boys and the girls, maybe?

So having innate knowledge of sports == heterosexuality then?

I prefer girls!
 
2008-10-20 08:25:55 AM
Squidgilum: I keep the math simple. I follow the Seahawks.

I have you beat, I am a life long Lions fan.
 
2008-10-20 08:26:47 AM
Great Idea! Whatever works to get the kids interested. Actually the idea of this school is interesting too - wonder if I could ship my kid down to it. He could use once a week counseling (well more than that, but nevermind).
 
2008-10-20 09:09:34 AM
I know what a quarterpounder is.
 
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