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(Chicago Breaking News)   Chicago Tribune endorses Barack Obama, first time it has endorsed a Democrat in its 161 year history   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 278
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2008-10-17 03:46:59 PM
wow I can say I didn't think this one was coming.
 
2008-10-17 03:49:55 PM
Whoa. The Chicago Tribune, really?
 
2008-10-17 03:51:19 PM
We have tremendous confidence in his intellectual rigor, his moral compass and his ability to make sound, thoughtful, careful decisions. He is ready.

Nice.
 
2008-10-17 03:51:37 PM
Are there any major newspapers that haven't endorsed anyone yet?
 
2008-10-17 03:52:24 PM
Wow. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that the Arizona Republic is endorsing McCain or something.
 
2008-10-17 03:52:38 PM
This is what is called a BIG DEAL. I may be wrong but I believe they have NEVER endorsed a Democrat for President.

There was a lot of debate if Sam Zell would let one of his papers endorse a Liberal, since he is a huge conservative. Well there is your answer.
 
2008-10-17 03:53:33 PM
i15.photobucket.com

Seems appropriate.
 
2008-10-17 03:53:52 PM
Sorry, like Palin I read all the papers, why is this significant?

Is the Tribune usually conservative?
 
2008-10-17 03:53:57 PM
Kitwilly: This is what is called a BIG DEAL. I may be wrong but I believe they have NEVER endorsed a Democrat for President.

They mention that it is in fact the first time they have endorsed the Democrat in their long history. Bad news... for Obama.
 
2008-10-17 03:57:05 PM
Occam's Chainsaw: Wow. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that the Arizona Republic is endorsing McCain or something.

The Trib didn't endorse Adlai Stevenson in 1952 or 1956 so what is your point?
 
2008-10-17 03:58:30 PM
nekom: Bad news... for Obama.

And that's why you're Farkied as "Bad news for Obama."

I hope Drudge and the other media types who are carrying water for McCain (in protest of what they see as the rest of the media carrying water for Obama) keep just enough tension on the story that Obama supporters don't get complacent.
 
2008-10-17 03:58:44 PM
Occam's Chainsaw: Wow. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that the Arizona Republic is endorsing McCain or something.

It is probably a big deal more from a local perspective than National. I imagine a Chicago paper endorsing Obama is not big news.
 
2008-10-17 03:59:53 PM
DarkJohnson: Sorry, like Palin I read all the papers, why is this significant?

Is the Tribune usually conservative?


The founder of the paper was also the founder of the G.O.P. In the paper's history this is the third time they have endorsed someone not in the Republican party, and the first time they've endorsed a Democrat. The paper is owned currently by Sam Zell, who is very much a conservative.

So yeah, it's significant, though less significant than if they endorsed a Democrat who wasn't from Chicago
 
2008-10-17 04:00:55 PM
Occam's Chainsaw: Wow. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that the Arizona Republic is endorsing McCain or something.

Way to pay attention.
 
2008-10-17 04:02:04 PM
BritneysSpeculum: The Trib didn't endorse Adlai Stevenson in 1952 or 1956 so what is your point?

By your reckoning, CBS is still the source for news on merit of Murrow alone.
 
2008-10-17 04:03:45 PM
Whoa.


This endorsement makes some history for the Chicago Tribune. This is the first time the newspaper has endorsed the Democratic Party's nominee for president.


Also, if you read the whole thing, that's a glowing endorsement. Damn.
 
2008-10-17 04:10:41 PM
Occam's Chainsaw: BritneysSpeculum: The Trib didn't endorse Adlai Stevenson in 1952 or 1956 so what is your point?

By your reckoning, CBS is still the source for news on merit of Murrow alone.


You have a terrible time grasping things don't you?
 
2008-10-17 04:19:22 PM
GWLush: You have a terrible time grasping things don't you?

I'm trying to get the hang of being the idiot contrarian. Eight years of Bush made the role utterly unplayable by any but the most dedicated.
 
2008-10-17 04:21:06 PM
My mother worked a long time for the Tribune -- she was one of those "Liberal media" types. I just told her about this and she almost fell over with surprise.

/Of course, she does that a lot these days, as she has to use a walker.
 
2008-10-17 04:25:55 PM
Occam's Chainsaw: By your reckoning, CBS is still the source for news on merit of Murrow alone.

No. Here is the point I was trying to make. By your post, it appeared that you were discounting the significance of this endorsement, suggesting that it was more do to the fact that Obama was the favorite son of the Trib. I pointed out that when an earlier Illinois democrat ran for president (twice) the Trib did not endorse him. Thus, there is no evidence that the endorsement here is because of proximity.
 
2008-10-17 04:33:00 PM
I knew when I read this that people would call the Trib homers, as if they endorsed Obama simply because he's from Chicago.

Do a little digging through the Trib's editorial archives. For extra fun, read some of John Kass's columns on Obama. They've done more thorough, critical reporting on Obama than any other media outlet. If you know anything about their editorial board, this is a pretty big deal.

Kass is one of my favorite columnists, but I would have loved to see his reaction when he found out about this.
 
2008-10-17 04:34:04 PM
Sir Roderick Glossop: nekom: Bad news... for Obama.

And that's why you're Farkied as "Bad news for Obama."


I still laugh at that cliche everytime I see it. I don't know why. You'd think it would get old after awhile, but it's timeless.
 
2008-10-17 04:35:12 PM
Really great article. It's not often you see one of the most conservative papers in the nation slam the GOP for their recent shenanigans, and they call out McCain on his (perhaps false) transformation into a party-line conservative. Also gives kudos to Obama on his "Chicago School" economic policy. A social liberal who believes in free markets? My kind of guy.
 
2008-10-17 04:37:21 PM
Running a-puck: Are there any major newspapers that haven't endorsed anyone yet?

Quite a few - E&P maintains a running list right here.

They have an interesting point. Of the endorsements so far, (3-1 for Obama, roughly), a lot of the Obama endorsements come from papers that endorsed Bush. In '04, newspaper endorsements for Kerry (220) barely outnumbered those for Bush (205).

So that's ~65 so far, leaving 300+ to go, give or take various ownership changes and consolidations.
 
2008-10-17 04:38:57 PM
the newspaper in his home state, you don't say
 
2008-10-17 04:41:50 PM
SushiJoe: the newspaper in his home state, you don't say

Read the comments for the linked article. Many are something to the effect of "has hell frozen over"? Home state or not, they don't endorse Democrats, EVER.
 
2008-10-17 04:43:11 PM
SushiJoe: the newspaper in his home state, you don't say

read TFA
 
2008-10-17 04:54:37 PM
SushiJoe: the newspaper in his home state, you don't say

I know, it's like some people just completely discount that this paper is from his hometown.

/Really, I'm almost over the line to meta here, people. If you bite on this then you've lost all perspective.
 
2008-10-17 05:09:56 PM
SushiJoe: the newspaper in his home state, you don't say

THIS
 
2008-10-17 05:10:19 PM
damageddude: Seems appropriate.

Should've been an iPhone.

/And what's with the political thermometer, anyways?
 
2008-10-17 05:11:09 PM
They're just doing this because of the color of his skin. Publicity.
 
2008-10-17 05:12:33 PM
That's it. I'm voting for Joe/Sam the plumber/non-plumber.
 
2008-10-17 05:12:43 PM
The LA Times also announced it endorses Obama... Who'da thunk it. They're always so conservative generally.. And it's not like they're owned by the Tribune or anything.
 
2008-10-17 05:13:04 PM
CygnusDarius: /And what's with the political thermometer, anyways?

Shh, pay no attention to it and it might go away
 
2008-10-17 05:13:08 PM
The greenlight system is so obviously broken it's contemptable and laughable at the same time.

Anyway, good for the Trib.
 
2008-10-17 05:13:31 PM
A newspaper is just a guy with an opinion. That's it. Rush Limbaugh doesn't change minds either. REALLY.
 
2008-10-17 05:13:39 PM
I have never, in my journalism career, been able to figure out why newspapers would endorse anyone in this way... it's a great way to piss off half of your readership and lose subscriptions. Hell, I got dragged into the local pol's office for a stern talking-to because I'd bashed his party in an opinion piece, I'd have hated to see what he'd do had I flat-out come out and declared that people should vote for the competition... (Which I wouldn't - I actually supported his party until he accused me of being a right-wing drone. Strangely, I didn't vote for him the next time around...)

A declaration of support is a remarkably good way of breaking journalistic neutrality, from my view.
 
2008-10-17 05:14:41 PM
Where's Obama from? Oh yeah, Chicago. Go figure.
 
2008-10-17 05:15:22 PM
Historic in all sense of the word!

Kudos
 
2008-10-17 05:15:32 PM
Five Tails of Fury: I have never, in my journalism career, been able to figure out why newspapers would endorse anyone in this way... it's a great way to piss off half of your readership and lose subscriptions. Hell, I got dragged into the local pol's office for a stern talking-to because I'd bashed his party in an opinion piece, I'd have hated to see what he'd do had I flat-out come out and declared that people should vote for the competition... (Which I wouldn't - I actually supported his party until he accused me of being a right-wing drone. Strangely, I didn't vote for him the next time around...)

A declaration of support is a remarkably good way of breaking journalistic neutrality, from my view.


Well said.
 
2008-10-17 05:15:47 PM
Occam's Chainsaw: SushiJoe: the newspaper in his home state, you don't say

I know, it's like some people just completely discount that this paper is from his hometown.

/Really, I'm almost over the line to meta here, people. If you bite on this then you've lost all perspective.



Do you consider the New York Times a "home town paper"? Do you consider The Guardian UK a 'little london rag'? The Tribune is a paper sold and read across America. If you think their history of supporting conservative republican candidates for ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY ONE YEARS is just because none of them were from Illinois you'd be stupid and, actually, wrong.
 
2008-10-17 05:15:59 PM
Seems like lots of folks are endorsing a Democrat for the first time in their histories.

/ but Obama might have trouble winning unless young people vote in similar numbers to their record registrations
// that's part of what killed Kerry
/ they kirr Kerry? bastalds.
 
2008-10-17 05:15:59 PM
Five Tails of Fury: it's a great way to piss off half of your readership and lose subscriptions.

or perhaps cater to the readership, who were already voting that way anyway.
 
2008-10-17 05:16:14 PM
Five Tails of Fury: I have never, in my journalism career, been able to figure out why newspapers would endorse anyone in this way... it's a great way to piss off half of your readership and lose subscriptions. Hell, I got dragged into the local pol's office for a stern talking-to because I'd bashed his party in an opinion piece, I'd have hated to see what he'd do had I flat-out come out and declared that people should vote for the competition... (Which I wouldn't - I actually supported his party until he accused me of being a right-wing drone. Strangely, I didn't vote for him the next time around...)

A declaration of support is a remarkably good way of breaking journalistic neutrality, from my view.


Shouldn't newspapers be objective?

/oh never mind, I just read what I typed there
 
2008-10-17 05:16:18 PM
People still read newspapers?

In the words of Egon, print is dead.
 
2008-10-17 05:16:20 PM
farm4.static.flickr.com

Politicians are frequently endorsed by the local newspaper.
News at 11.
 
2008-10-17 05:16:23 PM
There's a sale at Penny's.
 
2008-10-17 05:17:16 PM
Jubeebee: I knew when I read this that people would call the Trib homers, as if they endorsed Obama simply because he's from Chicago.

Do a little digging through the Trib's editorial archives. For extra fun, read some of John Kass's columns on Obama. They've done more thorough, critical reporting on Obama than any other media outlet. If you know anything about their editorial board, this is a pretty big deal.

Kass is one of my favorite columnists, but I would have loved to see his reaction when he found out about this.


He probably shat himself. Can't wait to read his column on Sunday.
 
2008-10-17 05:17:20 PM
They endorsed Obama for Senator in 2004 - It's a hometown thing. As far as the NY Times, I would expect the DNC newsletter to support a democrat.
 
2008-10-17 05:17:51 PM
Rockdrummer: Where's Obama from? Oh yeah, Chicago. Go figure.

So no other democrat from Chicago has ever run for President?
 
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