There was one sign that said, `Close the door or the devil will get you.' It should have said, `Close the door or the deputies will get you,' because we did," Christian said.

Oh he's a witty motherfarker, isn't he?

Sherman, Sherman, Sherman, Sherman, Sherman

O'Bama?

This is bad news...for 'Bama

Not really...Drugs are not exactly the best thing to happen to 'Bama...

I'm so conflicted--they'll destroy the plants, which makes me sad..but a lawyer goes to jail, which makes me happy...

FTFA:

Marijuana, Hale said, is a gateway drug that leads to more violent crime.

Is this even remotely true?

No shortage here. As noted in another thread, 100% organic DJ Short Blueberry, fresh off the stem. Still needs to cure for a while, but as-is it's better than 95% of what's out there.

/puff
//puff
///pass

Legalize it and tax it. Government would make enough in 2 weeks to cover that $700 billion bailout...

I will never get tired of that cliché. Good job, subby!

BuyNLarge: Legalize it and tax it. Government would make enough in 2 weeks to cover that $700 billion bailout...

One more time...

Won't happen. There's too much money involved in it being illegal. Why vote to legalize something that would remove the nice tax-free bribe from your pocket? And make a bigger headache for you as a lawmaker?

As someone living in Vancouver BC, I'm laughing my ass off over this.

Marijuana, Hale said, is a gateway drug that leads to more violent crime.

LMFAO!

What about all the inmates that we wouldn't have to pay for?

BuyNLarge: What about all the inmates that we wouldn't have to pay for?

That's even bigger business than the bribes.

EmployeeOfTheMinute: FTFA:

Marijuana, Hale said, is a gateway drug that leads to more violent crime.

Is this even remotely true?


Not nearly as true as it is for alcohol.

/leads to unplanned pregnancies, marriages, and other
inconveniences

Marijuana, Hale said, is a gateway drug that leads to more violent crime.

If there was only a way to make it so that crime wasn't connected with marijuana.

Putting people in prison for selling/utilizing plants is worse than Christians enforcing their beliefs on the rest of America.

bam a lam.

oh oh black betty

bam a lam

America: Guns prevent violent crimes and marijuana causes them

Canada: Guns encourage violent crimes and marijana doesn't

America: 5.6 homices per 100,000 people, 287.5 agg assault. (2006 numbers for comps comparison, source http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm)

Canada: 1.85 homicides per 100,000 people, about 10.0 agg assaults. (numbers 2006, source http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/070718/d070718b.htm)


US: You're doing it wrong.

Malinki: BuyNLarge: Legalize it and tax it. Government would make enough in 2 weeks to cover that $700 billion bailout...

One more time...

Won't happen. There's too much money involved in it being illegal. Why vote to legalize something that would remove the nice tax-free bribe from your pocket? And make a bigger headache for you as a lawmaker?


But it's the right thing to do--

"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." -

Abraham Lincoln

Another Pretentious Nickname

you had me until you started knocking guns.

Weed AND guns = good
America's war on drugs = more violent crime by guns

Stats are skewed bruah

guns + alcohol = dead people
guns + weed = happy people

Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

Meant to say:

Jeez - when are American leaders going to grow up about this?

EmployeeOfTheMinute: FTFA:

Marijuana, Hale said, is a gateway drug that leads to more violent crime.

Is this even remotely true?

No. Not even remotely.

SynthLord: Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

Americans want to be -- it's the government that refuses to grow up.

Control_this: There was one sign that said, `Close the door or the devil will get you.' It should have said, `Close the door or the deputies will get you,' because we did," Christian said.

Oh he's a witty motherfarker, isn't he?


If anyone wants to email this smartass pig and congratulate him on stealing property and shutting down a business during a time of recession, his address is r­christ­ianffireh­socffejorg

Can anyone explain the origin of this "bad news" meme?

Nationwide, hydroponic marijuana has increased in popularity and become an organized criminal enterprise, bringing with it noticeable increases in violent crimes such as home invasions, armed robberies, arsons and homicides, authorities said.

Slight causation/correlation problem here. The "home invasions, armed robberies, arsons and homicides" are not caused by the marijuana, they are caused by the illegality of marijuana. The same as what happened during prohibition. Get rid of the illegality and you'll get rid of most of the crime, simple as that.

adeist69: SynthLord: Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

Americans want to be -- it's the government that refuses to grow up.

But that's okay, because we Americans will continue to do absolutely nothing about a government that represents it's own interests above the interests of the people. And trying to advocate the wishes of the people is quite radical and un-American.

So instead, the gov't spends all this money on the war on drugs to fill up prisons and clog our legal system. Why? Well what does war do for a country? It increases the country's spending. Who profits when the country spends like a motherfarker?

Think about it. We no longer live in the America which was founded in 1776.

SynthLord
Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

I don't know. I do know that i personally am getting very annoyed by all the "look how much weed I'm smoking!!!1" replies in these kind of threads.

It always reminds me of kids who tell everybody exactly what they are planning on doing on the toilet when they need to go; they haven't figured out yet that noone gives a shiat.

FTFA:
Nationwide, hydroponic marijuana has increased in popularity and become an organized criminal enterprise, bringing with it noticeable increases in violent crimes such as home invasions, armed robberies, arsons and homicides, authorities said.

well, if they would just legalize it, all of that would go away.

DigitalCoffee: Nationwide, hydroponic marijuana has increased in popularity and become an organized criminal enterprise, bringing with it noticeable increases in violent crimes such as home invasions, armed robberies, arsons and homicides, authorities said.

Slight causation/correlation problem here. The "home invasions, armed robberies, arsons and homicides" are not caused by the marijuana, they are caused by the illegality of marijuana. The same as what happened during prohibition. Get rid of the illegality and you'll get rid of most of the crime, simple as that.

Weed, I totally agree. Crack, etc. will still cause crime. Crackheads won't suddenly become upstanding citizens who happen to smoke crack.

ISouldBeWorking: SynthLord
Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

I don't know. I do know that i personally am getting very annoyed by all the "look how much weed I'm smoking!!!1" replies in these kind of threads.

It always reminds me of kids who tell everybody exactly what they are planning on doing on the toilet when they need to go; they haven't figured out yet that noone gives a shiat.


You could always change the channel


/I'm just sayin....

Control_this

`Close the door or the devil will get you.' It should have said, `Close the door or the deputies will get you,' because we did," Christian said.


I was thinking the sign had it right.

Another Pretentious Nickname: America: Guns prevent violent crimes and marijuana causes them

Canada: Guns encourage violent crimes and marijana doesn't

America: 5.6 homices per 100,000 people, 287.5 agg assault. (2006 numbers for comps comparison, source http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm)

Canada: 1.85 homicides per 100,000 people, about 10.0 agg assaults. (numbers 2006, source http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/070718/d070718b.htm)


US: You're doing it wrong.

I think it's because it's too cold for black people to live there. Oh wait wait wait.. I mean, there aren't any poor people in Canada. They're all rich. So... ta-dah! No crime!

ISouldBeWorking: SynthLord
Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

I don't know. I do know that i personally am getting very annoyed by all the "look how much weed I'm smoking!!!1" replies in these kind of threads.

It always reminds me of kids who tell everybody exactly what they are planning on doing on the toilet when they need to go; they haven't figured out yet that noone gives a shiat.

I'm smoking right now so I just got a kick from your reply.

adeist69: Malinki: BuyNLarge: Legalize it and tax it. Government would make enough in 2 weeks to cover that $700 billion bailout...

One more time...

Won't happen. There's too much money involved in it being illegal. Why vote to legalize something that would remove the nice tax-free bribe from your pocket? And make a bigger headache for you as a lawmaker?


But it's the right thing to do--

"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." -

Abraham Lincoln

You don't have to quote Abe to me, I'm well familiar with it. Matter of fact, I may have even been known to leave a shiny penny, face up, whenever I find a plant. That way the grower knows the spot's not safe, but they get the ol' wink from Abe at the same time to say 'good luck'.

But look at it from the perspective of the small grower while we're at it. People that grow maybe a half dozen plants indoors, maybe they put out 10 or 20 in the spring. Most of them don't want decriminalization even more than the politicians. Profit margins are very high with illegal products. Government regulation is at least a headache if not a complete business killer. Sure, the self-sufficiency grower won't mind it being decriminalized, but they're not too worried as-is anyway since they're growing even fewer plants.

I'd love to see it legalized too, but the numbers don't add up.

Nah, this isn't bad news for Bama. We're looking at a possible number one ranking.

Now, Auburn, that's a team that has some problems.

Wait. Did you mean Bama, the state?

I wonder what the result would be if we had a nationwide vote on the legality of marijuana. I mean, we are still a "democracy".

If anything it would quiet most of the weed advocates if opposition were shown.

If there is more profitability from keeping weed illegal, it must be a private sector thing. Fark you Bob Barker.

What I find absolutely insane is, that in the states where states have legalized the use of even medical marijuana, the Federal government has ignored this state law, which is completely opposite of the original US government construct. Seems more and more that the Federal government needs to back out of local/state politics, because on almost all fronts it seems to be that they are a cause of a many of the problems out there (more then they solve it seems at times). Just look at the broken laws, and blind eye thats been turned to the activities of the ATF, FBI, and CIA as examples to this. Its as if they arent held to the same laws that we are, which is probably the truth.

The local paper here sucks, this is the best i could find about this story about the man who was arrested for felony pot charges, claimed he was using it for medicinal uses, then died a few days later because of the stress of the arrest.


Link (new window)

The case has received a great deal of publicity because Day and Sutton Day have claimed the marijuana was for medical purposes. He was born with a degenerative disease that impeded his physical growth and caused a great deal of pain. He said the marijuana helped ease that, relax his muscles and cope with anxiety, among other benefits. She also has illnesses that she uses marijuana to cope with.

Day died last month at the age of 34 after battling the disease all his life. He was facing a handful of felony drug charges, including production, possession and intent to distribute marijuana.

Summer Day was charged with the same crimes, which are still pending.

But medical marijuana advocates from around the state have been lobbying Fitch to drop the charges against Summer Day. Advocates have argued she has suffered enough and should not be prosecuted for producing marijuana that she and Scott Day used to alleviate the pain of a number of ailments.

Neither Day nor Sutton Day had the permit required under Montana's medical marijuana law at the time of the search. They did get the needed permit after the seizure of the plants and were allowed by Tucker to keep using the drug during the case.

BuyNLarge: I wonder what the result would be if we had a nationwide vote on the legality of marijuana. I mean, we are still a "democracy".

If anything it would quiet most of the weed advocates if opposition were shown.

If there is more profitability from keeping weed illegal, it must be a private sector thing. Fark you Bob Barker.

No, because then they would jump back on the Libertarian bandwagon claiming the whole "I should be able to do whatever i want in my own home with whatever adults I want!"

Just legalize it man. No one is going to make you buy it. If you dont want to buy it, no hippie is going to come up to you on the streets and put a gun under your chin and say "Your getting high tonight or your dying right now." Alcohol is sold in every store. If you dont drink, you more than likely *gasp* ignore it!

Just raising my hand to join the wake-n-bake crowd.

my favorite time of the day

Sheriff Mike Hale said he didn't initially appreciate the magnitude of what his drug investigators were uncovering.

"It would be impressive if it was a legitimate business," he said.

It's quite impressive period. And it SHOULD be a legitimate business.

The War on Drugs costs far too many lives and too much money.

Has to be one of the single most assinine set of laws inflicted upon the American Public.

BuyNLarge: Legalize it and tax it. Government would make enough in 2 weeks to cover that $700 billion bailout...

Well said sir.

Damn, what a shame. All that pot going to the evidence locker to be stolen by more police for free-- talk about a drain on Alabama's economy.

Of course, if it was legal, that'd all be injected into the economy as funds generated by self-sustaining agriculture. The state could even tax it, if so assholishly inclined.

I live in Ky and it's dry as hell around here! You'd think with Mary Jane being supposedly our biggest cash crop, that it would be like plucking it fro ma farking tree, but no! I have to go up to Cinci and deal with alot of BS.

And, THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is why I shouldn't type on Fark in the AM-- my comments are redundant by the time they're composed.

OnTheFence: Just raising my hand to join the wake-n-bake crowd.

my favorite time of the day

That sounds like a grand idea. I'll be back in a few minutes

Bathysphere: I live in Ky and it's dry as hell around here! You'd think with Mary Jane being supposedly our biggest cash crop, that it would be like plucking it fro ma farking tree, but no! I have to go up to Cinci and deal with alot of BS.

You're circle may be dry but there's plenty of smoke in KY.

From TFA: Elaborate dirt-free operation based in Kingston warehouse

"Hydroponic" is too big of a word? Too many syllables?

But look at it from the perspective of the small grower while we're at it. People that grow maybe a half dozen plants indoors, maybe they put out 10 or 20 in the spring. Most of them don't want decriminalization even more than the politicians. Profit margins are very high with illegal products. Government regulation is at least a headache if not a complete business killer. Sure, the self-sufficiency grower won't mind it being decriminalized, but they're not too worried as-is anyway since they're growing even fewer plants.

I'd love to see it legalized too, but the numbers don't add up.

Good point. Just like small farms everywhere. Imagine the ads from Archer Daniels Midland or Monsanto (might make a great photoshop contest). Then they'd create some GMO strain, let its pollens loose, then sue everyone for "unlawful use of their patent".

Myth: Marijuana Causes Crime. Marijuana users commit more property offenses than nonusers. Under the influence of marijuana, people become irrational, aggressive, and violent.

Fact: Every serious scholar and government commission examining the relationship between marijuana use and crime has reached the same conclusion: marijuana does not cause crime. The vast majority of marijuana users do not commit crimes other than the crime of possessing marijuana. Among marijuana users who do commit crimes, marijuana plays no causal role. Almost all human and animal studies show that marijuana decreases rather than increases aggression.

From TFA: Elaborate dirt-free operation based in Kingston warehouse

Tentacle: "Hydroponic" is too big of a word? Too many syllables?


I'd say its more along the lines of the general public not being up on the different types of growing methods is all. Sometimes the writers gotta dumb things down for the general public to make sure they understand what is being talked about, in this case the different methods of hydroponic growth (water only, and the use of a clay medium).

Bathysphere: I live in Ky and it's dry as hell around here! You'd think with Mary Jane being supposedly our biggest cash crop, that it would be like plucking it fro ma farking tree, but no! I have to go up to Cinci and deal with alot of BS.

This Summer I decided to grow my own for the first time after toking for decades. I will f*cking never go back to looking for a hookup or only being able to afford shwag-weed. Growing a few plants mixed in with your vegetable garden is so easy, I'm still amazed. If you're a serious toker, do it, you owe it to yourself.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
H. L. Mencken

farfigneugan: Another Pretentious Nickname: America: Guns prevent violent crimes and marijuana causes them

Canada: Guns encourage violent crimes and marijana doesn't

America: 5.6 homices per 100,000 people, 287.5 agg assault. (2006 numbers for comps comparison, source http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm)

Canada: 1.85 homicides per 100,000 people, about 10.0 agg assaults. (numbers 2006, source http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/070718/d070718b.htm)


US: You're doing it wrong.

I think it's because it's too cold for black people to live there. Oh wait wait wait.. I mean, there aren't any poor people in Canada. They're all rich. So... ta-dah! No crime!

This. Give people money and don't have any black people around = lower crime.

Its not tough math.

SynthLord: Jeez - when are Americans going to grow up about this?

Americans would have to burn our current government to the ground before this will ever change. Or a third World War wipes us off the map. A good zombie invasion is more likely.

We're corrupt down to the roots. Pruning a few limbs won't save us.

REO-Weedwagon: This Summer I decided to grow my own for the first time after toking for decades. I will f*cking never go back to looking for a hookup or only being able to afford shwag-weed. Growing a few plants mixed in with your vegetable garden is so easy, I'm still amazed. If you're a serious toker, do it, you owe it to yourself.

Exactly. And do try bagseeds first, just for fun and experience. Then find a source for quality genetics and simply amaze yourself. If you're lucky, find someone to give you a clone or two.

Try as you might



You can't beat supply and demand, baby!

Canada is densely populated in most places that people live. They don't have many roads, much of it is unlivable, and the authorities don't let people in many places.

There was one sign that said, `Close the door or the devil will get you.' It should have said, `Close the door or the deputies will get you,' because we did," Christian said.



I wonder if they were poking fun at this sign? It's on I-65 (heading North) right before you get to Birmingham.

Bathysphere: I live in Ky and it's dry as hell around here!

You'd think things would be more lubed up around KY.

Its really not that big a deal. They had $65,000 worth hanging. Assuming jackass police calculation methods at $20 a gram all the way up its only 7 1/2 pounds. Sadly, enough to send these guys away for a long time, but really not all that much pot.

permaculture: Try as you might



You can't beat supply and demand, baby!

HOLY ShiAT!!

permaculture: Try as you might



You can't beat supply and demand, baby!

FARKING CHRIST!!

Another user already has this login name: Can anyone explain the origin of this "bad news" meme?

There was some political issue and a conservative emitted the meme and it stuck. It's like some kind of mind worm.

permaculture: Try as you might



You can't beat supply and demand, baby!

Did you really do that to your poor harvest just for a photo op?

m0llusk: Another user already has this login name: Can anyone explain the origin of this "bad news" meme?

There was some political issue and a conservative emitted the meme and it stuck. It's like some kind of mind worm.

It's very Rove-ian to me. I agree it has a way of trying to convey superiority and control. Instantly puts the person in disagreement on the defensive.

Sort of like how the reporter is reporting Hale's off-hand claim about marijuana being "gateway drug" and "leads to more violent crime" - just because Hale said it doesn't make it 1) Correct, 2) Fit to print, or 3) Exempt from the equal time concept. But 1) This is 'Bama, 2) A 'journalist', and 3) 9/11 changed everything.

/Say it enough and it becomes true...
//Hale is a terrorist and being a cop in Alabama leads to an increase of pole smoking and a-hole poking
///I don't need a citation, you have to prove me wrong har har har

"Shafer Commission last studied marijuana in the 1970's. The information then available lead Nixon's own handpicked commission come to a surprising conclusion: they recommended no legal penalties for adults possessing up 100 grams of marijuana. Nixon freaked out, flew into a rage, canceled print runs of the report, and refusing to read the document, he buried the Shafer Commission's recommendations. Tricky Dick did exactly the opposite and started America's full-scale War on 'Weed', instead. And now forty years later, the War on Pot continues to grind on, getting larger with each passing year." ---Norml

Medical marijuana still illegal? Holy shiat, what a bunch of $*&$^#(ers.

For those who need their medicine: continue the good fight.

For those who have no compassion: fark you. For those who drink alcohol with no compassion: I say we take away baby's bottle.

EmployeeOfTheMinute: FTFA: Marijuana, Hale said, is a gateway drug that leads to more violent crime.

Is this even remotely true?

id say the real gateway drugs are booze or cigarrettes. you know the legal vices that are actually addicitive.

as far as violent crime, clearly this man has never been stoned.

when i blaze its usually so i can sit down, ignore everything else, and either do my homework or to ease my sciatica pain in the evening.

MC Clownbaby Its really not that big a deal. They had $65,000 worth hanging. Assuming jackass police calculation methods at $20 a gram all the way up its only 7 1/2 pounds. Sadly, enough to send these guys away for a long time, but really not all that much pot.

oh and this^

There was one sign that said, `Close the door or the devil will get you.'It should have said, `Close the door or the deputies will get you,' because we did," Christian said.

FTFH

RogermcAllen: Another Pretentious Nickname: America: Guns prevent violent crimes and marijuana causes them

Canada: Guns encourage violent crimes and marijana doesn't

America: 5.6 homices per 100,000 people, 287.5 agg assault. (2006 numbers for comps comparison, source http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm)

Canada: 1.85 homicides per 100,000 people, about 10.0 agg assaults. (numbers 2006, source http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/070718/d070718b.htm)


US: You're doing it wrong.

The average population density of Canada is 3.2 people per km^2, in the US there are 31 people per km^2. There simply aren't enough people around to assault/murder in Canada. Plus, it is just too damn cold. Everyone knows that violent crime rates go up when temperatures go up.

Works Cited:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

Yeah, sure the average density is low, but you have to consider that like 90% of Canada is almost uninhabited. 80% of the population lives in 10% of the land. And the crime rates are still lower in those places.

I hate cops. Why can't they just live us little old hippies errr I mean yuppies alone.

I meant leave!!

astinkywind: I meant leave!!


Sure you did. You just had a marijuana flashback while typing. It's a good thing you weren't operating a vehicle at that moment, you would have killed people. How many of your friends have to die from throwing themselves off the top of buildings before you realize you're wrong?

I feel compelled to post something in this thread; smoking is relevant to my interests.

LEGALIZE IT

shame :(

Gaping McCainus: permaculture: Try as you might

You can't beat supply and demand, baby!

Did you really do that to your poor harvest just for a photo op?

That pic's been going around as long as I can remember. And yes, unless it's free ditchweed someone found, what a shame to treat it that way.

Oh that pile of green posted above is beautiful...

'round these parts in Ontario we have a Marijuana Party guy running for election. Apparently he's also an enthusiastic public nudist - there's court records.

/got nothin'
//smoke weed not troops

Durrrrr we made pot illegal but people still growing it! What are we gonna dooo!!! Those damned peaceniks will never learn that pot causes violence!! That's why we have to taser their asses!!

I wish i could find some in Greenville, SC

/Hintity Hint Hint!
//Email in profile....