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(Sun-Sentinel)   Movie-goer killed in line for saying "shut up" to another patron   ( divider line
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2002-12-31 02:29:13 PM  
The lesson is to let your kids run berserk in public school, where they can beat other kids to death with their bare hands and only get suspended.

That hopefully rids them of a lifetime of agression and prepares them for the staid, gray existence of adulthood.
2002-12-31 02:30:03 PM  
my favorite thing to do when I get flipped off (daily by the multi millionaire yuppy faglords in their SUV that apparantly feel that you should go 95 mph no matter where you are) is smile and wave at them. I am a big guy and could surely hand out some ass kickings if I wanted to but knowing that I infuruated someone to that point and maybe ruined their day feels better

2002-12-31 02:31:54 PM  
I've punched someone for saying "Shut the fark up" to my wife.
2002-12-31 02:32:31 PM  
12-31-02 02:26:53 PM Brazil
Sigh. Just insult them back. Obviously that guy never posted on Fark. Never initiate violence in a verbal sparing match. If the other guy initiates it you finish it, quick and dirty.

Sean Connery

Typical wop, bringsh a knife to a gunfight

/Sean Connery
2002-12-31 02:32:54 PM  
Just another case of a woman and her bigass mouth getting someone killed. Move along.
2002-12-31 02:32:55 PM  
Ditto, you don't have to deck the guy for saying shut up to your wife. You stand between, make yourself imposing, and say calmly, and quietly, "Now now, there is no need for that sort of rudeness. You should apologize." Whether or not they do, it doesn't matter. It ends it then and there, no violence, no blood and no sore knuckes.
2002-12-31 02:33:03 PM  
Florida is a magical place.
On one hand you have cuban immigrants who get assloads of government perks from republicans just for leaving cuba, so they usually vote for people that usually want to fark them over in the longrun, and(no offense to any cubans)can't drive worth shiat. On the other hand you have rednecks(it's a southern state lest we forget)who bring new meaning to the phrase white trash.
2002-12-31 02:34:21 PM  
You have to deck the guy. It's what your supposed to do

In a misguidedly chivalrous way. Personally I would hope that said wife would be more concerned with my well-being than proving my worth to her for trying to finish a fight that she instigated. Sorry, if that's what's expected of me she can take a hike. Physical protection is one thing, I'd surely die protecting my imaginary wife; jumping into a violent situation with many unknowns (weapons etc.) over stupid words is another.
2002-12-31 02:34:31 PM  
Instead of sharing ways of farking up fellow Americans, why don't we all go over to the Mideast and beat the crap outta some Islamics?
2002-12-31 02:38:10 PM  
Sean Connery
Typical wop, bringsh a knife to a gunfight
/Sean Connery

Yeah... what I don't understand is why they both didn't have guns? This is America. They were in Florida. We're losing our edge. Damn third world countries will be walking all over us shortly.
2002-12-31 02:38:31 PM  
Why don't you go over and we'll meet you there.
2002-12-31 02:40:47 PM  
OregonVet, no shiat, but thanks for stating that.

12-31-02 02:04:11 PM Crooky

If someone told my wife to shut up, I think I would be a little miffed. If someone called my wife a "biatch" or a "whore" or something like that, they'd definitely be getting a fist sandwich for lunch. So, if someone insults my wife enough to provoke me to hit them in the face, and they fall down (because they're a puss) and hit their head and die, am I guilty of manslaughter?

That depends. Was your wife running her mouth off like an old harpie? If I was, and some guy told me to shut up, my fiance's probably just laugh at me, and I'd deserve it. If this would have been an un-provoked "shut up", maybe I'd want him to threaten him a little. But truth be told I'd be very upset if he hit him for two reasons: One, I hate it when guys do macho crap like that for women. I get pissed when the clerk insists on carrying my 30 pack of beer out to the car for me, and my fiance knows this. Two, I'd be really upset that he chanced having assault charges pressed against him for something as stupid as a man telling me to shut up. If hte guy would've grabbed my tits or something else equally unsavory maybe I'd feel different.
2002-12-31 02:42:53 PM  
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2002-12-31 02:42:57 PM  
Already been. Then I used my GI Bill to get my law degree. Now I work for the RIAA.
2002-12-31 02:43:45 PM  
"Then I used my GI Bill to get my law degree"

great aint it?

2002-12-31 02:45:10 PM  
In my spare time I lobby Congressmen to reinstate the draft.
2002-12-31 02:46:13 PM  
In this instance I say the ole bastard should be introduced to Big Ghey Luv.....In another instance I say that LostAgain should be introduced to the One Punch Wonder for ever bringin up a Vanilla Ice song....CAP -

2002-12-31 02:46:39 PM  
"We want him to be convicted to the fullest extent of the law....He should suffer like our family is suffering"

These dumbasses who want everyone to suffer like they do are as sick as the people who commit the crimes. It was an accident. The old guy shouldn't have punched the other guy, but victim shouldn't have told the wife to shut up, either. So why don't we lock up the guy until he's dead too--will that make the victim's daughter feel better? Maybe she'd like to flip the switch that sends the lethal injection into his veins--hell, that would probably make the rest of her life better.
2002-12-31 02:47:12 PM  

If this was over a cell phone, I could understand killing the guy. But over being told to be quiet? I hear Alabama has a gas chamber for these kind of things."

No, we have "old yellow mama" or whatever the electric chairs name is. and i believe we just got out first lethal injection about a week or two ago.

as for gas chambers, i thought they were abandoned nationwide because the authorities thought that they were too similar to what the nazis did to the jews in those camps in WW2
2002-12-31 02:47:21 PM  
"What's that? You want some? Now you got the junkyard dog barking! And you don't want that! Rooroorooroo!"

/king of the hill
2002-12-31 02:47:22 PM  
Well I make little castles out of my neighbor's dog's crap and then pretend I'm Godzilla and stomp on them. So there.
2002-12-31 02:47:50 PM  
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"I'd hit it"
2002-12-31 02:49:23 PM  
One punch? Go and like, drink milk or something...
2002-12-31 02:50:14 PM  
12-31-02 02:47:22 PM RepoMan
"Well I make little castles out of my neighbor's dog's crap and then pretend I'm Godzilla and stomp on them."

Yeah, I'm into aromatherapy, too.
2002-12-31 02:53:29 PM  
People....Telling someone to shutup and punchin someone is 2 entirely different things. I would've verbally spared with him and made him cry....No need to punch someone unless they --um say bring up Vanilla Ice lyrics. Then I say wail away.....
2002-12-31 02:57:43 PM  

These people were born in a time when you EXPECT a fight for insulting another man's girl/wife. Just because these people hold a different set of values than you do doesn't make them "retarded".

That being said, the law is the law, and he did kill the guy. I, personally, think duels should be brought back to handle situations like this, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

I get pissed when the clerk insists on carrying my 30 pack of beer out to the car for me, and my fiance knows this.

That's called being polite. I hold doors for women, and I'll carry heavy shiat for them as well. I've only come across one woman who got irked at that, and she was a world-class biatch, as I came to find out later.
2002-12-31 02:58:52 PM  
What? Shut up! GAAAKKK
2002-12-31 02:59:25 PM  
The lady should have punched him in the face herself, if she was so bothered about it.
But I can imagine the level of annoyance coming from the woman per her complaint. They never get exact with what she said. And even if it was as simple as "He's taking too long to buy his tickets." or "Could you hurry it up?"
Somedays, that's all I need to rip someone's head off.

There was one time I was standing in line at the bank and there was this woman in front of me. She was agitated, and I could tell by her incessant mumbling...which included profanity, and racial epithets in the form of "Goddamned Beaners."
The point was, she was impatient and felt it was the fault of the hispanics (of which there were none in the establishment at that time) they were making her stand there so long.
It wasn't actually that long...but that's not the point.
She was making most people around her uncomfortable, and I can tell that she ripped into the cashier with her negative attitude once she was being served.
Had my children been there with me, a punch in the face might have arisen, simply because of her lack of courtesy to other people. If you're some kind of freak nut-bag that likes to swear at the top of your lungs to no one, please keep it to the streets in a ragged little poncho so that I can laugh at you
2002-12-31 03:00:58 PM  
Seeing stories like this makes me wish we could just bring back the ol' civilized duel. Pistols at 20 paces would probably make a lot of people think twice before acting the arse. Too many these days have forgotten the meaning of politeness and civility. Too concerned with what their "rights" are and have forgotten that there are "responsibilities" that go along with it.

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2002-12-31 03:02:59 PM  
It's go time!!!

2002-12-31 03:07:10 PM  
I told a bunch of young hooligans to STFU in a movie before. Blah, blah, blah. Jeese with popcorn and a date it's a $50.00 night without a soda. Hey wait a second... I'm going back to hookers.
2002-12-31 03:11:53 PM  
Aaahh, the memories...

I used to work in a movie theater when I was a teenager and I can safely say that nowhere, and I mean nowhere, do people act more like half-wit baboons than they do at a movie theater.

I've worked in restaurants, retail, and even local television... and never have I encountered more freakish and moronic behavior than I did during my years in the multiplex.

Some favorites, (in no particular order):

1.) The guy who was masturbating during the "shower scene" of "Schinder's List."

2.) The old lady who used to gather her popcorn and soda supply from the leftovers of previous patrons. (and who eventually got caught "tickling her kitty" in the ladies room.

3.) The drunk bastard who wandered into the breaker room to take a leak and shut off all the power when he pulled the main breaker to "flush."

4.) The "jarheads" who were so engrossed in their movie they decided not to leave their seats to take a leak, just stood up and whizzed on the floor.

5.) The frustrated old hippie who tried to instigate a mass rebellion and "storming of the gates" because he didn't want to wait to be let in to "Batman" on opening night. (our actual exchange: hippie - "We've all decided we're coming in, what are you gonna do? You can't stop us all." me - "No sir, I can't. But, I'll damn sure stop you."

Anyway, there are hundreds... and they don't even include the everyday bullshiat like fights, cussing matches, and indecent exposures.

The most closely related to this story, though, happened on a slow weekday afternoon. I was working in the concession stand when two guys in their sixties came out of one of the movies each pointing at the other like a pair of five year olds.

One saying, "he hit me." The other saying "he spit on me." Turns out one guy had smuggled in some candy that had individual pieces wrapped in cellophane. The crinkling noise of the wrappers pissed the other guy off so he told the first guy to "shut the fark up." Noisy candy guy responded by telling him to go to hell. The complaining decided it was now the proper time to spit on the noisy candy guy, who in turn hit the complaining guy.

Feeling very much like a kindergarten teacher I had to inform them that they were both in the wrong (noisy candy guy for smuggling in candy and being inconsiderate about the noise, complaining guy for escalating the situation by spitting rather than simply coming to get an employee to handle it,) and that I could either kick them both out (for acting like shiatheads,) or that they could both go back into the theater and finish watching the movie, provided they could get along with one another.

Mmmm, mmmm, good times....
2002-12-31 03:14:06 PM  

(Wait, maybe it is just a Geazer Fight. Still, one of em's pretty crippled now.)
2002-12-31 03:20:40 PM  
Grumpy Old Men III
2002-12-31 03:20:42 PM  
Actually, L_J, I think he's calling you a turdstomper.
2002-12-31 03:23:18 PM  
These people were born in a time when you EXPECT a fight for insulting another man's girl/wife. Yes, and they were also born in a time when black people weren't allowed to eat in the same establishments or ride in the front of the bus. We grow and evolve.
2002-12-31 03:29:30 PM  
Candypants - Yes, and they were also born in a time when black people weren't allowed to eat in the same establishments or ride in the front of the bus. We grow and evolve.

Which just goes to show that if we'd elected Strom Thurmond lo those many years ago, we wouldn't be having all these problems...

2002-12-31 03:33:16 PM  
If my husband punched someone because they told me to shut up (especially when I said something rude first) I'd be pissed at him. I can handle myself just fine in verbal confrontations. Even if it escalated to a screaming match with really nasty things being said, he still better not interfere. Now, if the other person suddenly turns it physical, I'm probably gonna need his help.

What this old guy did was not only stupid, but really insulting to his wife. By stepping in and escalating it so quickly, he was in essence saying that his wife is not responsible for her words/actions and is too weak to handle even mild verbal consequences. He deserves the consequences of his actions.
2002-12-31 03:34:10 PM  
Sorry, you just don't punch a crotchety old man for telling your wife to shut up, even if you're a fellow crotchety old man. His family saying he wasn't an aggressor is just plain silly.

I'd bet money that his wife did indeed need to shut up, also.

Enjoy grandpa prison!
2002-12-31 03:38:38 PM  
"'Cause I'd kill you...It's real simple.
I'd kill you and your farking parents would sue me and it would be a big mess and I don't care enough about you to bother."
2002-12-31 03:41:46 PM  
sounds like all three need their ass kicked.

anyone with P2P software needs to find the video "Skater vs. abercrombie guys" or "punk vs preps" or "Mike Ocks vs frat boys" or one of the endless renamed versions. great stuff.
2002-12-31 03:50:20 PM  
Holy crap! That is the theater where I went most recently to see a movie!

It's the dollar theater, too. Everything is dirt cheap. My wife and I got tickets, a small popcorn, and a three-gallon barrel of soda for seven dollars.

Yeah, you betcha, the retirees love that place. Really nice, clean theater, though. I didn't notice any bloodstains.
2002-12-31 03:51:33 PM  
I'm mean too, and I don't even have a headache. but you'll have to wait and see what I mean.
2002-12-31 03:52:00 PM  

12-31-02 01:53:24 PM Basstovin
in my day you stood up for your lady.

Thank you. Halfway down someone finally grows a pair.

Tell my wife to shut up to her face and I'm next to her, ya get punched. Usually that's how it works.

At seventy years old I'm sure it's much more likely.
2002-12-31 03:53:51 PM  
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2002-12-31 03:55:31 PM  
"These people were born in a time when you EXPECT a fight for insulting another man's girl/wife."

Yeah, but the women in those days prolly didn't run their mouths in such a manner either. I agree with you about reinstating dueling though. This loser should do at least 4 years.
2002-12-31 03:58:07 PM  
Zzuess - Grows a pair of what? :) Seriously, did you ever think that your wife isn't a porcelian doll who must be protected from everything? Let her be an adult and step in only when/if she truly can handle it.

A lot of guys on here keep saying they would have done the same thing. Even in the medival idea of chilvalry, you at least gave the other guy a chance to apologize first. "Sir, I demand you apologize to my lady or ...some appropriate threat goes here".

I'm sure there are some women who would find your defense a romantic ideal, but I think (or at least I hope) the majority would see such action as inappropriate and juvenile.
2002-12-31 03:58:53 PM  
Dang...second sentence should end "truly CAN'T handle it"
2002-12-31 04:07:15 PM  
12-31-02 03:51:06 PM NuckleheadEd

Bah - they gave the guy's name and picture in an AP news release - doesn't take a rocket scientist or Kevin Mitnick to hack the Florida Dept of Motor Vehicles databases to do a face matchup to verify the guy's identity, hack the Florida Register of Deeds to get the guy's address, hack the Verizon databases to get his phone number, and hack a Russian Reo-SAT to get a satellite picture of his house ...

Anybody can do that.

And anyways, this guy killed someone with his bare hands. I don't care what the circumstances were - the guy killed another man with his bare hands. Over saying 'shut up' when some pushy woman was telling him to hurry up to buy movie tickets. There are appropriate punishments for telling someone to 'shut up' - the death penalty isn't one of them.
2002-12-31 04:20:11 PM  

Bokkasrealm: How about you suck my dick, m'kay?

The only reason I ever travel to "America's Wang" is that I have to as my inlaws live there, that and the cuban food.

And why is it every assclown from flordia feels compelled to point out that they have tall building too? I'm not impressed.

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