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(Canoe)   Canada has universal healthcare, a budget surplus, no war, and financially sound banks, not to mention Canadian Bacon. Who's the moron now, America, eh?   (money.canoe.ca) divider line 354
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2008-10-10 05:33:29 PM  
albo: you guys have a magical money tree in Alberta you can take it from?

Yeah, it's called oil.
 
2008-10-10 05:33:51 PM  
heypete: State and local governments are legally able to provide healthcare services to their citizens -- there is no constitutional restrictions preventing them from doing so -- yet most (all?) do not. Why not? You'd think that if it were such a hot-topic issue for people then more states would get involved.

If a state does that, lots of people with expensive long-term health problems move to that state, and the system gets overwhelmed.

See, one problem we have is Medicaid will provide health care for the completely disabled. This coverage exceeds any employer health care for LMC and below, so in order to survive, people with expensive conditions will find a friendly doctor who will declare them disabled. It's not that they can't work, it's that they can't afford to pay their bills if they do. So we at the very least need a system that doesn't give better health care to the non-working than the working can get.

If I were coming up with a system, I'd probably start with a system of subsidized insurance. Everyone gets healthcare subsidized to X dollars, and any insurance provider can provide a qualifying package that costs X dollars. There would be a base level of coverage needed, but the insurance companies could compete by offering additional coverage, lesser deductibles, etc. Employers could then offer extended coverage, or individuals could just upgrade their coverage themselves. Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA would die except that retirees would get a higher subsidy because their care is more expensive, and veterans would get their own higher subsidy because they've earned it.
 
2008-10-10 05:33:56 PM  
what's a nexus card?

www.jammersreviews.com
(on the inside flap) "Having a great time, wish you were here!"
 
2008-10-10 05:36:15 PM  
Has anyone pointed out the 8 months of winter yet?
 
2008-10-10 05:36:36 PM  
khyberkitsune: LOL Inaccurate headline.

Considering Canada's dollar is worth roughly 80% what ours is worth *RIGHT NOW*, I'd say maybe you're not so smart keeping your money tied to us, eh?


A lot of Canadian companies that deal with the states are paid in US funds. The company I work for is one of them. Every time the Canadian dollar drops against the US dollar, our CEO's smile gets bigger and bigger.
I know some companies that were on the verge of bankruptcy when the dollars were at par. They're now doing quite well.
 
2008-10-10 05:36:46 PM  
Even we Canadians get it wrong. It's not socialized medicine. It's a government run insurance program. It means my doctor, who runs his own practice, bills OHIP instead of having to hire 3 secretaries to wrestle with separate insurance companies and HMOs.
 
2008-10-10 05:38:28 PM  
I guess I could add "aye" end of every sentence if I absolutely had to.

/Head'in north aye.
//Drink'in the Molson aye.
///Gett'in me some healthcare aye.
 
2008-10-10 05:39:47 PM  
ive been to the ER in canada and it was fine, fast, and effective- and free. ive been to the ER here in maine many times, one time waited 8 hours to get 25 stiches in my leg. and for everyone touting free market competition, look at everything america produces. it sucks, i bought a toyota truck cause it gets 20 mpg and doesent break. say that about your ford. were being played by our government and the more you wave the flag the more you support gettin farked by our own gubment. and look at the medias biggest issue in this election- bill ayers
 
2008-10-10 05:39:57 PM  
wruley: I guess I could add "aye" end of every sentence if I absolutely had to.

/Head'in north aye.
//Drink'in the Molson aye.
///Gett'in me some healthcare aye.


If you knew anything, you'd know it's 'eh.
 
2008-10-10 05:39:58 PM  
Pincy: Ummm, better than nothing?

No such thing as nothing. There are tons of free clinics across the U.S.
 
2008-10-10 05:41:52 PM  
Three Words:

Beer.
Hockey.
Rush.

/that is all
//O', Canada!
 
2008-10-10 05:42:04 PM  
albo: you guys have a magical money tree in Alberta you can take it from?

Well nobody else did it:

We do have a magical money tree in Alberta:
 
2008-10-10 05:42:45 PM  
wruley: I guess I could add "aye" end of every sentence if I absolutely had to.

/Head'in north aye.
//Drink'in the Molson aye.
///Gett'in me some healthcare aye.


So you're a Scot, eh?
 
2008-10-10 05:43:47 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

8.5 Billion dollar surplus: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2005/11/16/albertasurplus-051116.html

Alberta is out of debt and swims in money and runs a huge surplus every year.
 
2008-10-10 05:43:52 PM  
sleeps in trees: Samsaran: A Fark Fable


Once there were two tribes, the Americans and the Canadians. They lived on a wild rushing river that continually flooded. The Americans were many and built a huge dam on the river made of concrete and steel and slowed the river to a trickle. The Americans were very proud of that dam and bragged about it incessantly. Downstream in the shadow of the great American dam the Canadians built a little dam of mud and sticks to contain the trickle. Now, the Canadians loved their little dam and were jealous of the big modern American dam upstream. They took to making jokes about its size. They liked to claim that their little dam was much better because it was "natural". They took to mocking the big American dam that overshadowed them and they laughed when a few cracks began appearing in the American dam. "Stupid Americans" they would say ... "look at their fancy dam now, with all those cracks". Then one day the American dam failed ...



Then thank god Canada's national symbol is a beaver.


i like beaver.
 
2008-10-10 05:46:32 PM  
oldfarthenry: Then why, oh blowhard of knowledge, does every other industrialized country of this f**kn' planet have it but you?

Because canada and western european countries gutted their militaries to pay for their social programs knowing the the U.S. would cover security for them.
 
2008-10-10 05:47:10 PM  
miak: Well nobody else did it:

You're about 9 minutes too late to claim that :P
 
2008-10-10 05:51:30 PM  
skhval_factory: The EU as a whole has 500 million and UHC

Yes but they have to be near Belgians. I don't think that UHC is worth that.
 
2008-10-10 05:52:58 PM  
I just moved to Canada this week, so I'm getting a kick oot of these comments.

/Seriously
//eh?
 
2008-10-10 05:53:17 PM  
How come it eludes you very sophisticated people that in all these UHC nations they ration health care?

Rule of economics: Price caps lead to shortages.

If you don't understand that, please don't respond. You're too stupid to interact with a sentient being.
 
2008-10-10 05:53:38 PM  
TheRedMonkey: There are tons of free clinics across the U.S.

Free clinics that can't handle the big stuff. Sure, basic maladies, STD screens, OB/GYN, most pediatrics, yeah, Free Clinics can handle that. But they lack the equipment, staff and (most importantly) funding to provide the immediate care people need for serious injuries. Thus, you must go to the ER and, insured or not, most often pay for it, either through the nose or at least some form of co-pay, no matter how much.

The fact that time is of the absolute essence in cases like that pretty much forces your hand: ERs are available 24/7, staffed with doctors used to providing that kind of trauma care. Clinics sometimes have set hours of operation, often being closed for the night. While the medical staff at clinics are no less trained and capable than their hospital counterparts, they aren't paid nearly as much, and may not have ER experience. Cost cutting on all counts.

Socialized health care works. Sure, you pay more in taxes for it, but look at it this way: Accidents happen without notice, often when you can least afford it. Socialized healthcare means you don't have to fork out $400 for an ER visit. Paid for by you already, since your taxes are working towards it.

At least you know your tax dollars are doing something for you, instead of building bridges to nowhere and bailing out Wall Street dicksplashes who made bad decisions with other people's money.
 
2008-10-10 05:53:41 PM  
As someone who has done very little research on Universal Health Care, can someone with a lot of information and very little bias tell me how effective the Canadian health care system is?

How effective is it (what are infant mortality rates like, and what is Canadian life expectancy?)

How long does it take to get care (as I've heard that UHC systems are notoriously slow?)

What sort of increase in tax rates is necessary to provide these services in your country?
 
2008-10-10 05:54:29 PM  
Canadians are teh ghey! Admit it.
 
2008-10-10 05:55:32 PM  
miak: Alberta is out of debt and swims in money and runs a huge surplus every year.

How's the rent around Calgary?

/would still be a Penguins fan regardless...
 
2008-10-10 05:57:52 PM  
Surely the Canadians know how farked we are by insurance companies, right? It's not that we're a bunch of dumbasses. It's not like we don't know that we need to do something about our healthcare system, but until we do something about insurance companies, we won't be able to change ANYTHING. Whatever we spend on healthcare, as long as insurance co.'s are run as for profits, we're farked.

I envy you guys that you don't have to worry about medical bills. It's disgraceful that most folks in this country are one illness away from going broke.
 
jvl
2008-10-10 05:58:05 PM  
Yes that's right: American, European, and Asian banks are all struggling but Canadian Banks use magic fairy dust that is going to keep them immune.

/ Makes mental note to short Canadian Banks
 
2008-10-10 06:01:12 PM  
I wish people would just stop slagging one of the most successful symbiotic relationships in history. Canada depends on the USA for such essentials as Wal-Mart, MacDonald's, and Disney, and the USA depends on Canada for essentials like oil, electricity, and water. Sure, the USA could kick Canada's ass in a war, even if we move the submarines from West Edmonton Mall into open water. So what? You've had a lot more practice blowing shiat up, and believe me, we know it.

But can't we just get along a little better? It's been years since we sent Celine Dion to Vegas, please forgive us and stop carrying the grudge. Here, have some poutine and a double-double from Timmie's. I know it's not Starbucks, but it's not $5 either.

I'll let you in on a secret...we actually LIKE most Americans, the open-minded types who have bothered to learn a little about the world. They come up here and spend money, party their brains out, and are a lot of fun to be around. The narrow-minded types who behave like idiots get on our nerves a little, but then they get on the nerves of their fellow Americans as well.

And yes, we in Canada have some reservations with regard to American foreign policy, but there's plenty of Americans who do as well. When you boil it all down, we are much more alike than we are different, we are 2 countries that were born in history at about the same time, and aside for some shiat that happened about 200 years ago, we've gotten along quite well....better than any other 2 nations on the planet.

So lighten up a little, eh?
 
2008-10-10 06:04:19 PM  
TemperedEdge: Socialized health care works. Sure, you pay more in taxes for it, but look at it this way: Accidents happen without notice, often when you can least afford it. Socialized healthcare means you don't have to fork out $400 for an ER visit. Paid for by you already, since your taxes are working towards it.

Here's two things I know, from my personal experience.

One: I don't give a damn whether it's taken out of my paycheck and sent to the government or taken out of my paycheck and sent to a giant, inefficient, faceless for-profit bureaucracy.

Two: for the cancer my wife has, it can be hard to get good treatment in Canada. This has everything to do with the population size of Canada and very little to do with "socialized" medicine. Meanwhile, Kaiser Permanente makes their patients with this type of cancer only WISH they lived in Canada.

Three: And I live in fear of a layoff - COBRA would be extremely expensive for me, and without insurance we'd be farked. We're not poor, but $36,000.00/yr is a lot of scratch for anyone who loves Bush/McCain tax cuts and hates Obama's. I'd be bankrupt in 18 months, would lose the house, would still be stuck with most debts (thanks, 2006 bankruptcy bill!), and my wife would die much sooner. And, if we are responsible, I'd have to take a job in another state, move, and lose all the family support we'd need as my wife slowly loses her abilities. fark McCain's health care plan up the ass with a broken wooden spoon.
 
2008-10-10 06:05:24 PM  
PJMurphy: I wish people would just stop slagging one of the most successful symbiotic relationships in history. Canada depends on the USA for such essentials as Wal-Mart, MacDonald's, and Disney, and the USA depends on Canada for essentials like oil, electricity, and water. Sure, the USA could kick Canada's ass in a war, even if we move the submarines from West Edmonton Mall into open water. So what? You've had a lot more practice blowing shiat up, and believe me, we know it.

But can't we just get along a little better? It's been years since we sent Celine Dion to Vegas, please forgive us and stop carrying the grudge. Here, have some poutine and a double-double from Timmie's. I know it's not Starbucks, but it's not $5 either.

I'll let you in on a secret...we actually LIKE most Americans, the open-minded types who have bothered to learn a little about the world. They come up here and spend money, party their brains out, and are a lot of fun to be around. The narrow-minded types who behave like idiots get on our nerves a little, but then they get on the nerves of their fellow Americans as well.

And yes, we in Canada have some reservations with regard to American foreign policy, but there's plenty of Americans who do as well. When you boil it all down, we are much more alike than we are different, we are 2 countries that were born in history at about the same time, and aside for some shiat that happened about 200 years ago, we've gotten along quite well....better than any other 2 nations on the planet.

So lighten up a little, eh?


I kind of view us as brothers. Sure we talk shiat about each other, but when the shiat hits the fan we have each other's backs.
 
2008-10-10 06:07:01 PM  
PJMurphy: I wish people would just stop slagging one of the most successful symbiotic relationships in history. Canada depends on the USA for such essentials as Wal-Mart, MacDonald's, and Disney, and the USA depends on Canada for essentials like oil, electricity, and water. Sure, the USA could kick Canada's ass in a war, even if we move the submarines from West Edmonton Mall into open water. So what? You've had a lot more practice blowing shiat up, and believe me, we know it.

But can't we just get along a little better? It's been years since we sent Celine Dion to Vegas, please forgive us and stop carrying the grudge. Here, have some poutine and a double-double from Timmie's. I know it's not Starbucks, but it's not $5 either.

I'll let you in on a secret...we actually LIKE most Americans, the open-minded types who have bothered to learn a little about the world. They come up here and spend money, party their brains out, and are a lot of fun to be around. The narrow-minded types who behave like idiots get on our nerves a little, but then they get on the nerves of their fellow Americans as well.

And yes, we in Canada have some reservations with regard to American foreign policy, but there's plenty of Americans who do as well. When you boil it all down, we are much more alike than we are different, we are 2 countries that were born in history at about the same time, and aside for some shiat that happened about 200 years ago, we've gotten along quite well....better than any other 2 nations on the planet.

So lighten up a little, eh?


so tell us what your argument is all....aboot.
 
2008-10-10 06:10:33 PM  
Im torn on this issue. on one hand Canada is full of Canadians so that's bad. OTOH they invented ham.
 
2008-10-10 06:12:55 PM  
i^2: ObscureNameHere: xtremdelt: The only good thing to ever come out of Canada:

Used to be my favourite. But now, I urged you, yay, I urge EVERYONE, to demand '40 Creek' whiskey. It's Canadian. It's unbelievably freakin' awesome.

Is it better than Alberta Springs? 'Cause that stuff is amazing.


I'd say a tentative 'yes'. The reason it is tentative is that I've not had any Alberta Springs stuff in a while and I'd need to do a side by side test to be fair to Alberta Springs. :)

Here's the deal: I once never thought anything would be better than Crown Royal. Seriously, it had been my fave for 20 years. But, when my brother gave me my first glass of 40 Creek, sitting on my parents porch in the summer, it was a revelation. Now, I a not 'whiskey snob' and have not sampled a great deal of what are probably high-end libations. But, 40 Creek with one sip dethroned a 20+ year drink of personal choice for me. So, yeah, it's kinda a big deal for me. :)
 
2008-10-10 06:13:26 PM  
GavinTheAlmighty: Scorched Colon: TheGreyPiper
Um, World War 2? The DEW line? That whole Cold War thing?

WWII? Go read a history book. It was a world war and it was in Europe, Asia and Africa. The American military did not respond to a threat to Canada.

Cold War? That was between the US and the Soviets. Everyone else was a pawn.

...
...


The US defended Canada in much the same way that Canada defended the US.


Excuse farking me? You ever hear of NATO? Isn't the Great White North part of that? You really think Canada and the rest of the Commonwealth weren't a real part of the Cold War? You, Freedom vs. Communism? Get your revisionist head out of yer ass.

World War 2? You think Canada wasn't involved in that? You think Canada wasn't at war in 1939?

But conceded, "The US defended Canada in much the same way that Canada defended the US." Much the same way that when a boulder falls, its gravity affects the Earth at the same time the Earth's gravity affects the boulder.

Suits me. Next time, fend for yourselves. That UHC will come in real handy when the Chinese start the real invasion.
 
2008-10-10 06:14:24 PM  
Nemo's Brother: I kind of view us as brothers. Sure we talk shiat about each other, but when the shiat hits the fan we have each other's backs.

That's what I think too. We can rag on each other a bit more because we know we're together when the chips are really down. It's like when you trash talk with your buddies.
 
2008-10-10 06:16:38 PM  
PJMurphy: I'll let you in on a secret...we actually LIKE most Americans, the open-minded types who have bothered to learn a little about the world. They come up here and spend money, party their brains out, and are a lot of fun to be around. The narrow-minded types who behave like idiots get on our nerves a little, but then they get on the nerves of their fellow Americans as well.

You got that right. I've cringed year after year as the dumb fark anti-education jock farktards who made high school a pain in the ass have gone on to fark up everything good about America. Everything.

They talk endlessly about the culture of personal responsibility while promoting vast amounts of institutional irresponsibility. They talk about conservative values while they let their kids run riot and complain that when they get knocked up at 17, a la Palin, "you can't control what kids do". They shiat all over education while pretending to support "traditional" values. They suck up illegal prescription drugs with a firehose while pretending the War on Drugs makes sense (and often while cadging pot off their "liberal" neighbors). They promote unrestricted gun rights while tut-tutting about violence in the ghetto. They promote capital punishment and torture of suspected terrorists while complaining about the lack of freedom in Communist China, where they execute and torture. They complain about taxes while sucking up enough pork (I'm lookin at you, Palin) to put 1,000,000,000 "welfare queens" in Cadillacs. They oppose every sensible, humane policy until it benefits their own families (I'm lookin at you, Dick Cheney and dyke daughter).


I know who you are. fark you, you've done more harm to America than the USSR and the VietCong and the ChiCom and the Al Qaeda ever did. fark you for destroying my children's future. fark you for wiping your ass with the Constitution. And you know what else, just fark you for being you. I hope Dick Cheney shoots you in the face and makes you apologize for it.
 
2008-10-10 06:22:37 PM  
No war? We're serving in Afghanistan.
 
2008-10-10 06:22:51 PM  
XGoldenDragon514: Im torn on this issue. on one hand Canada is full of Canadians so that's bad. OTOH they invented ham.

think of canada as a large backyard with garbage strewn around and no hot tub.

/keeeed
 
2008-10-10 06:23:27 PM  
Canadian Domination -- it's fo' real.

At least MY house won't MELT from global warming!1ONE
 
2008-10-10 06:25:14 PM  
Did I mention that I have foreign policy experience because my state borders Canada?
 
2008-10-10 06:29:22 PM  
Sorry subby:

2 words... French Canadians.


\seriously wtf?
 
2008-10-10 06:29:54 PM  
ok, I have GOT to try this 40 Creek stuff.
 
2008-10-10 06:31:10 PM  
i270.photobucket.com
 
2008-10-10 06:32:51 PM  
Budhisatva: As someone who has done very little research on Universal Health Care, can someone with a lot of information and very little bias tell me how effective the Canadian health care system is?

How effective is it (what are infant mortality rates like, and what is Canadian life expectancy?)

How long does it take to get care (as I've heard that UHC systems are notoriously slow?)

What sort of increase in tax rates is necessary to provide these services in your country?


I can give you annecdotal evidence. This is in Toronto.
My sister fell in August. Broke her left leg, rib, and arm. Was taken by ambulance to the hospital of her choice and spent 1 week there. Spent 4 weeks in re-hab hospital with 2 follow-up evaluations at the fracture clinic in the original hospital.
Cost to her - $40 for wheelchair cab to the clinic, and she had to buy her own cane.
 
2008-10-10 06:34:20 PM  
TemperedEdge: TheRedMonkey: There are tons of free clinics across the U.S.

Free clinics that can't handle the big stuff. Sure, basic maladies, STD screens, OB/GYN, most pediatrics, yeah, Free Clinics can handle that. But they lack the equipment, staff and (most importantly) funding to provide the immediate care people need for serious injuries. Thus, you must go to the ER and, insured or not, most often pay for it, either through the nose or at least some form of co-pay, no matter how much.

The fact that time is of the absolute essence in cases like that pretty much forces your hand: ERs are available 24/7, staffed with doctors used to providing that kind of trauma care. Clinics sometimes have set hours of operation, often being closed for the night. While the medical staff at clinics are no less trained and capable than their hospital counterparts, they aren't paid nearly as much, and may not have ER experience. Cost cutting on all counts.

Socialized health care works. Sure, you pay more in taxes for it, but look at it this way: Accidents happen without notice, often when you can least afford it. Socialized healthcare means you don't have to fork out $400 for an ER visit. Paid for by you already, since your taxes are working towards it.

At least you know your tax dollars are doing something for you, instead of building bridges to nowhere and bailing out Wall Street dicksplashes who made bad decisions with other people's money.


Sorry to burst your bubble but the emergencies are rarely the ones sitting in the emergency room waiting area. That example is few and far between. Uninsured people in CA are going to them for a cold and lame things instead of making an appointment at a clinic. The clinics could do 90% of what is done in an current emergency room. Come and sit in the ER at Salinas Valley Memorial Hospital or at Natividad Medical Center in Salinas and if you can count 10 actual emergencies in either one I would be very surprised. I recently had to sit in the waiting room after taking my Mom in for a real medical emergency and in the 7 hours I was there there was one kid that had a stab wound and another guy that go hit by a car on his bike. The others were someone with things that should have gone elsewhere. The ER attendants even told me the conditions because I asked them why it was so busy. It was just a typical day of this crap.
 
2008-10-10 06:36:37 PM  
Well as much as my premiums are I doubt that my taxes for UHC would be equal to that so why not?
 
2008-10-10 06:37:13 PM  
TheGreyPiper

World War 2? You think Canada wasn't involved in that? You think Canada wasn't at war in 1939?


I know Canada was involved in that. Canada entered WWII in 1939, the US waited 2 more years. The US wasn't coming to the defense of Canada, it was a world war.

The cold was was between the US and the Soviets. Everyone else was a pawn for either side. Was the US military defending Canada in the Cold War? Hardly. They were defending US interests. Canada was only involved due to being allied with the US.

I'm asking the nut jobs that always claim the US defends Canada to provide 1 single example of when the US military has ever risen to defend Canada. So far there has only been 1 example but that was from 1867. Ooohh...1867.

And NATO. NATO is not the US defending Canada like quacks on FARK make is sound like. Canada has had no recent (and by recent I mean after Confederation) enemy action taken against it, not because of the US but despite the US. Canada does not have an aggressive foreign policy, the US does.
 
2008-10-10 06:38:53 PM  
They are also Socialist. Universal health care may sound great, but I know that if the United States decided to initiate it, it would only last a week. Ready for the five month long wait to the ER???

Also, Canada is a Democrat's dream. Strict regulation among other stupid things.

And, Canada does not have a military except for symbolism. If we said that we would not protect Canada, they would easily be devoured.
 
2008-10-10 06:41:18 PM  
Scorched Colon: TheGreyPiper

World War 2? You think Canada wasn't involved in that? You think Canada wasn't at war in 1939?


I know Canada was involved in that. Canada entered WWII in 1939, the US waited 2 more years. The US wasn't coming to the defense of Canada, it was a world war.

The cold was was between the US and the Soviets. Everyone else was a pawn for either side. Was the US military defending Canada in the Cold War? Hardly. They were defending US interests. Canada was only involved due to being allied with the US.

I'm asking the nut jobs that always claim the US defends Canada to provide 1 single example of when the US military has ever risen to defend Canada. So far there has only been 1 example but that was from 1867. Ooohh...1867.

And NATO. NATO is not the US defending Canada like quacks on FARK make is sound like. Canada has had no recent (and by recent I mean after Confederation) enemy action taken against it, not because of the US but despite the US. Canada does not have an aggressive foreign policy, the US does.


Canada is the little guy at the bar doing whatever he wants because he best friend is Rowdy Roddy Piper.

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thafeedback.com
 
2008-10-10 06:42:18 PM  
Budhisatva: As someone who has done very little research on Universal Health Care, can someone with a lot of information and very little bias tell me how effective the Canadian health care system is?

How effective is it (what are infant mortality rates like, and what is Canadian life expectancy?)

How long does it take to get care (as I've heard that UHC systems are notoriously slow?)

What sort of increase in tax rates is necessary to provide these services in your country?


1)
Canada: 81.16 years
USA: 78.14 years
Link (new window)

The UN's Human Development Index, which takes into account infant mortality, life expectancy, education and standard of living, ranks Canada #4 worldwide and the USA #12.

2) It depends. Personally I've always had great service (ie I would go to a walk-in clinic on a weekend and on the Monday my family doctor would call to say she got the records from them and to check that I was okay - and that was for a minor throat infection). We do badly need more hospital beds, shorter ER waits, more nurses and more family doctors though.

3) I know our taxes are higher, but I don't have exact numbers. Bear in mind of course that we don't have to pay any private insurance. Except for dental coverage, which, weirdly, is largely private.

I think a big advantage is that you don't get companies nickel and diming their part-time workers, or classifying those who work 39.5 hours a week as part-time so they don't have to provide coverage.

/started my year of fully paid maternity leave today, so I'm pretty biased toward the Canadian system.
 
2008-10-10 06:48:23 PM  
TheRedMonkey: Scorched Colon: TheGreyPiper

World War 2? You think Canada wasn't involved in that? You think Canada wasn't at war in 1939?


I know Canada was involved in that. Canada entered WWII in 1939, the US waited 2 more years. The US wasn't coming to the defense of Canada, it was a world war.

The cold was was between the US and the Soviets. Everyone else was a pawn for either side. Was the US military defending Canada in the Cold War? Hardly. They were defending US interests. Canada was only involved due to being allied with the US.

I'm asking the nut jobs that always claim the US defends Canada to provide 1 single example of when the US military has ever risen to defend Canada. So far there has only been 1 example but that was from 1867. Ooohh...1867.

And NATO. NATO is not the US defending Canada like quacks on FARK make is sound like. Canada has had no recent (and by recent I mean after Confederation) enemy action taken against it, not because of the US but despite the US. Canada does not have an aggressive foreign policy, the US does.

Canada is the little guy at the bar doing whatever he wants because he best friend is Rowdy Roddy Piper.


comparing your own country to roddy piper?

sad.

i guess he's still a better actor than hulk hogan.
 
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